OK, so hello all, I am new here... In fact this is my first diary. I've always wanted to write something here, but I have a problem writing... See, I'm more of a counter-puncher, it's tough for me to get going unless provoked, so just sitting down and writing my thoughts is tough for me... I always feel so uninspired.
Fortunately, I have an Uncle who lies just to the right of Pol Pot on the political spectrum who likes to send me whatever idiotic thing he hears about on talk radio or reads on townhall... Sometimes I ignore him, other times we get into it. He's not the ideal debate partner on a number of fronts, as you'll soon see. His writing skills leave somethign to be desired, and his resoning skills are by and large non-existent. But he gets me going, which is important.
At any rate, yes, it's long and it meanders quite a bit, but it's a start, hopefully it'll be what I need to break my writers block and I'll post a real diary next time. Much admiration to anyone who can get through the whole thing, and thanks for reading! The names have been changed to protect the innocent.
From: T
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 5:13 PM
To: J
Subject: SF Supes Vote Down Blue Angel Ban
http://www.topix.net/...
Here is another fine example! Hate America crowd...move out of there before it is to late! Uncle
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From: J
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 7:03 PM
To: T
Subject: RE: SF Supes Vote Down Blue Angel Ban
Uhh, it was voted down, and the person who was for it was concerned for
public safety after the recent accident... And your problem?
And while you're thinking about that, take a look at this:
http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/...
Here are photos of members of "Gathering of Eagles", a group of pro-war
sissies and cowards who assaulted gold star father Carlos Arredondo in broad daylight in Washington, D.C., on September 15, 2007, throwing him to the ground and kicking him. A man who lost his son in Iraq had his son's photograph taken from him by your pro-war friends and when he tried to get it back, they assaulted him... Fuck these people Uncle T, and if you can't condemn these animals then shame on you too!
Love ya,
J
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From: T
To: J
Subject: RE: SF Supes Vote Down Blue Angel Ban
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 22:47:22 -0700
That's a sad story and if accurate is very sad....for the most part that
kind of stuff is an aberration and you know it...as for my concern for
public safety...please...these guys are professionals and pretty damn good at what they do...the San Fran's are afraid of some young boy (or girl)seeing them in action and wanting to be part of something like that.
I hope you mean that you want me to condemn the protesters and not the Blue Angels? And for every example of your type of shameful behavior that you
send me I can send you 10 Tes more and you know it...
So yea "Uhh, it was voted down" comment doesn't hide the fact that the
"Libs" hate the military and President George Bush...I don't know which is more?
Anyways I love you and look forward to converting...I mean...seeing you..Uncle T
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From: J
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 8:24 AM
To: T
Subject: RE: SF Supes Vote Down Blue Angel Ban
It is accurate, it is sad, and it is not an aberation... You war pigs have no respect for human life, American or otherwise... You are just a sad collection of frightened little children looking to support whoever tells you they can kill and deport all the people that scare you, which right now is George W. Bush, and are generally in desperate need of some sort of collective hug from your daddies...
Laughable and shameful at the same Time...
Love you,
J
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From: T
To: J
Subject: RE: SF Supes Vote Down Blue Angel Ban
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 09:07:04 -0700
So I guess it’s fair to say that you approve of the MoveOn.org. General Betray us Add and that the NY Tes conspired to help them get their liberal, far left, hate America message out....It is accurate, it is sad, and it is not an aberration...you surrender monkeys are going to get the entire Western Civilation bombed back to the stone age...my respect for human life extends to stopping the religious bombing of Mosques, be-headings, killing of Homo’s, slavery of women, car bombings of innocent children, bombing of sub-ways in England, Flying planes into office building, killing Budest Monks...etc. etc. Love Uncle T
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From: J
Sent: Wed 9/26/07 9:26 AM
To: T
Subject: RE: SF Supes Vote Down Blue Angel Ban
The ad was an ad, I don't speak for move on and they don't speak for me, but I will say this:
The sad part of the Petraeus Ad is the fact that it could be made at all, that George Bush and the crew of far right, hate America flunkies he has underneath him have all lost so much credibility that they had to hide behind a man in Uniform to wage their political campaign... Petraeus should never have allowed himself to become a political spokesperson for George Bush's war, and it sadly speaks ill of his character that he allowed himself, and his uniform, to be used in that way...
There is a reason that he had to go up there, because the Bush administration doesn't have an ounce of credibility left, and with good reason. They are pathologically unable to tell the truth, they put petty political battles above the good of the country, and they valued loyalty to Bush and their sad, failed ideology above basic competence... Why a decent man like David Petraeus would jump into their boat is beyond me, but his decision to do so speaks to his character and sadly, leaves him open to just that kind of criticism...
As for me being a "surrender monkey", uncle T, when are you going to quit being such a fucking sissy? You and all your fellow ropos soil yourselves whenever you see a brown person speaking with an accent, it's fucking pathetic! Sack up, man, these people are nobody, sad little angry people in piss-poor countries that collectively can't do anything to this country... Christ, man, have a little faith in this country, the whole of the Arab world if they were be able to band together militarily (even with all the weapons that Bush is selling to that beacon of democracy and tolerance, Saudi Arabia) couldn't match one American Battalion on the battlefield... But somehow they are going to bomb all of western civilization back to the stone age... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.... Really, do you ever stop to listen to yourself?
And yeah, you believe so much in human life that you're willing to support a war that is killing tens if not hundreds of thousands to prove it... Laughable...
Love ya,
J
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From: T
To: J
Subject: RE: SF Supes Vote Down Blue Angel Ban
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 12:14:32 -0700
The Neo-hawk Democrats couldn't wait to get Petraeus up there...he ended up making you look pretty bad and to this date there has been no legislation to surrender and leave....where are your people on this?
And this Statement that "can't do anything to this country" ?????? Excuuuuse meeeeee I was in NY City awhile back and saw a big hole in the ground where I used to work!!!! Does NATIONAL SECURITY mean anything to you? Listen....Visualize a mushroom cloud over San Fran....Please...lets get you started on coffee...black...preferred.
Yea...We are killing bad guys...the bad guys are killing their own...including their own women and children....just as fast as they can! and when they are done there... they are coming here! FOR A RETURN VISIT...ONLY THIS TE IT WON"T BE A FEW OFFICE BUILDINGS
Love ya,
T
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From: J
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 12:55 PM
To: T
Subject: RE: SF Supes Vote Down Blue Angel Ban
Yeah, uncle T, last Time I checked, America was still a strong functioning democracy, did 9/11 change that? Did 9/11 turn us all into Muslim extremists, keeping our women in Burkas and living under Sharia law? Is your son forced to grow a beard and wage Jihad? NO, so I will say again, these people can't do anything to this country... Yes, some people can blow up buildings and kill some people and there's little that can be done to stop that, people are always going to act irrationally and violently (remember Timothy McVeigh?????), but none of that will destroy America... WE ARE TOO STRONG FOR THAT!!!!!!
So again, Uncle T, quit being such a goddamn sissy, get some testicular fortitude... All the fear mongering that you do and that the Bush Administration does and that the Republican party does gives these little pissant terrorists more POWER than they deserve... You are the Goddamn surrender monkey uncle T, because you do what they want you to: YOU ARE AFRAID OF THEM!!!!!!!
Knock it off... As for us killing bad guys, look, YOU STARTED THIS WAR AND YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE CONSEQUENCES!!! You goddamn warmongering republicans created this failed state, not Saddam, bastard that he was, not the Democrats, not the insurgents, not Al Queda... It really doesn't matter who is killing who because none of this would have happened had Bush not gone in there in the first place! If just one of you would have the integrity to accept responsibility for your actions, this world would be in much better shape... As it is you all have fucked it up so bad with your bloodlust and incompetence and unwillingness to listen to anyone that knew better that whatever Democrat is elected to the Presidency in '08 is going to have few if any good options left in Iraq... But I trust that unlike the Republicans, whoever that is will take some goddamn responsibility for what they do, which is not to say that they will be responsible for what you created!
Now, the fact of the matter is that the dead-end republicans in the Senate will block any attempt to change course in Iraq, no matter what the American people want... No bother, eight or so of them will be out on their asses come next November... The American people have had it with your party, even Robert Novak and Newt Gingritch know so... It's a matter of Time, even Bush is just running out the clock at this point, he knows he's out in two years and then he can leave his mess for someone else to clean up, like he always does... Haha, you think you had a bad year in '06, 2008 is going to make '06 look like a walk in the park... You guys are fucked, and your pleas that "Hillary will be worse than Bush" are going to fall on deaf ears... I may not be the biggest fan of Hillary, but at least she's proven her self to be competent...
Love ya,
J
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From: T
To: J
Subject: RE: SF Supes Vote Down Blue Angel Ban
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 13:12:44 -0700
For an educated man you sure use a lot of bad words and you come across as a very angry young man...
I would have thought better...as for me ...I'm not an educated man so you would expect that type of expression from me...wouldn't you?
When you say "there is little that can be done to stop..." Well I disagree...Lets start with the ones the publically say they are going to destroy us...It's a start...doing nothing will surely get you nowhere and maybe even killed...Oh ya...you left out your obligatory "it's all about OIL and greedy white men etc."
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From: J
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 1:43 PM
To: T
Subject: RE: SF Supes Vote Down Blue Angel Ban
Oh, Uncle T, I didn’t know the cursing offended you so much, I wouldn’t want you to get the vapors on me... Look, I just talk like that because you seem to want to have this conversation with me but you never seem to understand what it is that I’m trying to say...
And by the way, as far as me being angry, well, yes I will say that I am angry... I'm angry that my Country's good name has been dragged through the mud, that so many young men in my Generation have been sent off to suffer and die, in a war that has made too many people suffer and die, by men in your generation who never had to sacrifice a thing in their lives, for no good reason. I'm not going to try to suggest that it was for greed or oil because I can't for the life of me figure out why we're over in Iraq, which tells me all I need to know about whether or not we need to be there... We don't. And we never did. I'm angry that my country's treasury, including my tax dollars are being pissed away by incompetents in Iraq who at the same Te can't find the money to save one of our oldest cities that they let drown because they were too busy playing around on their vacation, or that refuse to fund programs with wide bipartisan support that would make sure that millions of children who aren't as fortunate as my son get health insurance. I am Angry, but that anger has not clouded my judgment, or my moral compass, and quite frankly, if you can sit in your giant house and not see what is going on around you and not be angry about it Uncle then I feel sorry for you, and I have to question whether your lack of anger says something about your own judgment... I'm sure you just want to assure yourself that capitalism will magically fix all problems and that all american bullets magically kill only the guilty, so all you need to do is keep reading your Fox news that tells you that bad things only happen to bad people so not to worry... Pat yourself on the back and tell yourself that you live in the greatest Country on earth so there's no reason to lift a finger to try to make it better... All this country needs is lower taxes for the wealthy and everything will just magically sort itself out, and if it doesn't, well that's what gated communities are for, right?
Anger isn't always a bad thing, Uncle, but complacency is.
Love you,
J
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From: T
To: J
Subject: RE: SF Supes Vote Down Blue Angel Ban
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 14:12:22 -0700
I live in a track house...in doesn't have a guarded gate like Hillary Clinton's and ALL of her Limousine Liberals friends have, that you are so fond of...Like AlGore...he flies around in private jets with all his rich friends and has the unmitagating gall to try and tell me how to live! Carbon Foot Print! Please...Carbon Hypocrite is more like it....Hillary's health care plan! She 's got more than $40 Million personal wealth! Maybe $100 Million! Do you REALLY think she cares a hoot about J’s health? Yea...let's have not-for- profit health care and see what happens...if it so good...let's have not-for-profit auto-care...fix the poor people's cars....when she get sick do you REALLY think she pulls out her Insurance card? Further...She doesn't want to end this war! It's Bush's War...fix health care either...HA...they wouldn't have anything to run on...No my son...you have hitched your wagon to the wrong team of horses....You know it's not too late to change...Uncle
PS: There are many more good things going on in Iraq than "Your media sources" will ever want you to know...
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From: J
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 2:43 PM
To: T
Subject: RE: SF Supes Vote Down Blue Angel Ban
Yeah, last time I checked, your Mother liked her Medi-Care... Hey, I tell you what, you convince Grandma to stop using her Medi-Care and I'll agree with you that the government should stay out of Health Care... Until then, everything that you say is bullshit and you know it!
As for Gore and Clinton being rich, what is that supposed to prove again? Bush was born rich and has no concept of sacrifice or struggle... Shit, at least Gore SAW Vietnam, even as a reporter... Gore flies commercial when he can and buys carbon offsets for his house and travel, he's done more good for the environment than the entire republican party combined... The only thing a republican sees when he sees wilderness is dollar signs...
And you live in a track house..... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA... How many sq ft is your poor little track house again? Hahahahaha.... Ohhhhhh, you pooor poooor man.... Uncle T, I didn't know you had it so tough...
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From: T
To: J
Subject: RE: SF Supes Vote Down Blue Angel Ban
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 16:52:59 -0700
It is a track house...there must be 40 of them with the same floor plan...Now for being RICH! Don't ever say anthing about a the RICH republican’s again...in your own word's "What does that prove"
As for Medi-Care...that's FOR-PROFFFFITTT...paid way too much for by your Government...The Doctors are using the system to rip off the taxpayer...protected by the RICH Litagation Lawyers who give $$$ to the Dem's by the truck load and you know it....
So if I buy a Carbon Offset I don't have to feel guilty for driving my SUV? I'm still looking for all the good AlGore did for the enviroment...contrails in the sky are all I see...HA HA HA
By the way...does anyone have a picture of AlGore ever riding in coach? ever? anywhere? How about him ALWAYS riding in Towncars, BIG SUV's and LIMO'S...where is the bicycle man? I will admit that there is a savings when you have more the one person on your G-4...
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From: J
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 8:55 PM
To: T
Subject: RE: SF Supes Vote Down Blue Angel Ban
Medi-Care is not for profit, you really don't understand what you're talking about... the doctors are for profit, and that won't ever change, but Medi-Care is run BY THE GOVERNMENT!!! And again, convince Grandma that she'd be better off without it and I'll agree with you, otherwise you're obviously full of shit and you know it!
As for the rest of it, you sound angry, Uncle T... what have you got against Al gore... the man raises global awareness, how is he supposed to do that without traveling? He does more than you do to reduce his carbon footprint, what do you do? You may not believe in global warming Unc, but I guarantee your children won't have that luxury... It's a threat worse than terrorism, and it CAN do real damage... The pentagon knows it, whether you believe it or not...
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From: T
To: J
Subject: RE: SF Supes Vote Down Blue Angel Ban
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 23:38:13 -0700
You don’t understand Medi-Care....I won’t go any further...
As for AlGore I guess that he cares is good enough....in that case..I care too about Global Awareness...So I’m going down to my yacht in San Diego this week end and in my private aircraft... and ride my jet-ski’s... and drink good wine....did you want to go? Your Mom and Dad might be there too...Hells Bells... I’ll tell the Pilot to plan a mission up there to pick you up...remember...it’s cheaper if you don’t fly alone...invite someone....Just trying to reduce my carbon footprint...Fly alone if you want...I do.......
While I’m there I’ll try and call someone on my cell phone and see if they can "deliver dockside" some fresh carbon credits...Just doing my part....same as AlGore
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From: J
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 8:19 AM
To: T
Subject: RE: SF Supes Vote Down Blue Angel Ban
I understand medi-care WAAAAAAAAAAYYY more than you do uncle T... Come to think about it, I understand most everything you and I discuss way more than you do... Talking to you is like talking to a child who when he doesn't understand something or realizes that he's wrong about something, just makes shit up to make himself sound smarter... MEDICARE IS RUN BY THE GOVERNMENT!!! I know, I get taxes taken out of my paycheck... Furthermore, Company X, the company that I work for, accepts Medi-Care, which insures Americans 65 and older and in some cases people with chronic disabilities or end-stage renal disease... It's administered by The Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS), a component of the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS), which is part of the Executive Branch of the Federal Government... So again, I issue you a very simple challenge, which, if you complete, I will agree with you that the Government should stay out of providing healthcare coverage... All you have to do is simply convince your mother, my Grandmother, through force of argument, that she would be better off by forgoing her Medicare benefits and simply securing her healthcare through other means... Very Simple, Uncle T, and you know, if you can't do it, then you and I both know that you are totally full of shit, although only one of us will ever be man enough to admit it... So there, the gauntlet is down, I wish you luck!
Love you,
Jeremy
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From: T
To: J
Subject: RE: SF Supes Vote Down Blue Angel Ban
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 09:26:19 -0700
Do you think the private sector could eliminate or streamline some or all of the afore mentioned agencies? Like DHHS or CMS?
I never said I wanted to take away my Mother’s Medi-Care...I question the Federal Government roll...why can’t the state run it in it’s entirety? The prices are fixed by the Fed’s and the doctors run the racket to their advantage...Right?
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From: J
Sent: Thu 9/27/07 10:16 AM
To: T
Subject: RE: SF Supes Vote Down Blue Angel Ban
Why can't the private sector run it? You've answered your own question, there isn't really any profit in insuring the elderly. Medi-Care, like Social Security, actually has pretty low administrative costs (Social Security's admin costs are absurdly low), but no, I don't think the system would be run better by making it into some profit-making venture like HealthSouth or BlueCross/BlueShield... Do you really think that there's no waste or fraud in the private sector? Are you really that naive? Seriously???
Look, I have a good friend, she's about 30, she's marrying a friend of mine from college next month as a matter of fact... Anyhow, she had a bout with Cancer a little while ago, she's much better now thankfully, but unfortunately, while she had insurance when she was going through cancer treatment, they refused to pay for it... Why? Because before she was with the insurance, when she was in between jobs and uninsured, she saw a doctor for an unrelated ailment, received a prescription for a medicine that could also have been used to treat cancer even though that wasn't the diagnosis at the Te, and as a result the insurance company decided that her condition was pre-existing and they wouldn't cover it. So as a result, she had to declare bankruptcy. At 29 years old. Because she had cancer.
Now, what that does, essentially, is force the hospital where she was treated to eat the costs, which makes healthcare far that much more expensive for the rest of us... Is this what you mean by streamlining and cost cutting, uncle? Let me explain to you the business that most insurance companies are in, because clearly you don't understand it:
See insurance companies make their money by collecting premiums from their customers... They then take those premiums and use the proceeds to pay doctors and hospitals for the medical care that their customers receive... It's a reasonably simple money in-money out system, although most of them also make a little on the side with investments and other such financial transactions, but the long and the short of it is that they maximize their profits by collecting as much as they can in premiums and paying as little as they can for the actual healthcare that their members provide. As a result, they employ people whose job it is to scour your medical records to look for any reason at all why they shouldn't have to pay for your very expensive medical care. Which is why they'll deny payment for a woman who had a miscarriage at 12:00 midnight on a Sunday and who subsequently received care at a hospital by calling it an elective abortion... Or by denying an ambulance ride to the hospital for a car-crash vicT who was unconscious at the scene because she failed to get prior authorization for said ambulance ride, even though she was unconscious before she was put into the ambulance...
See Unc, I work for a great company in this respect, because Company X operates both the insurance portion and the hospital and clinical portion of the business, so it wouldn't make a bit of sense for them to deny care because they would just be robbing from one part of the business to pay for another... Good people, Company X, they also take a pretty progressive stance on Unions too, and they are a stronger company for it...
At any rate, the healthcare industry is a funny thing. So to answer your question, do I think the private sector could eliminate or streamline those agencies? Sure, absolutely, they could probably take all that money and make a handsome profit out of it... Of course they would do so at the expense of the public health, but who cares right? There's profit to be made!!! Medi-Care exists because it serves a public need, it works very well for your mother and millions of other senior citizens who otherwise would probably be SOL... Is it perfect? No, but I can't think of anything that is perfect... every system has flaws, but the notion that the government could just eliminate the program or hand it over to the private sector and everything would be hunky-dory is so laughably naive that it's hard for me to grapple with...
Medi-Care addresses a public need that otherwise wouldn't be addressed. For that matter, that's what the federal government exists for, which is a concept that you republican's could never quite get your brains around, which, by the way is also why you guys got kicked out of office... You get elected and think that the government is just a private patronage bank that you can use to enrich your friends... You elect people who bought the lie that the government can't help the people and when they get in office they prove that theory again and again until they are removed from office. The American people have a different idea of what they want out of their government.
But hey, the challenge is still out there, just convince Grandma to stop using her medicare and I'll agree that you're right!
HAHAHAHA...
Love ya,
Jeremy