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They don't seem to go away.  The Creationist nutjobs keep coming back with variations of their approach.  The latest diversion from intelligent education has been called Intelligent Design.  

They keep coming despite Judge Jones' stinging rebuke in the Kitzmiller v. Dover Board of Education case in Pennsylvania in 2005:

The breathtaking inanity of the Board’s decision is evident when considered against the factual backdrop which has now been fully revealed through this trial. The students, parents, and teachers of the Dover Area School District deserved better than to be dragged into this legal maelstrom, with its resulting utter waste of monetary and personal resources.


To preserve the separation of church and state mandated by the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment to the United States Constitution, and Art. I, § 3 of the Pennsylvania Constitution, we will enter an order permanently enjoining Defendants from maintaining the ID Policy in any school within the Dover Area School District, from requiring teachers to denigrate or disparage the scientific theory of evolution, and from requiring teachers to refer to a religious, alternative theory known as ID.

Since they lost the battle in Pennsylvania, they decided to move somewhere more friendly.  So now Texas is taking steps to become the new front in the Creationists' assault on education.

This should concern citizens across the country because Texas has one of the largest public school systems in the nation and their standards affect curriculum and textbook content development throughout the country.

Why have our colleges and universities been silent on this issue?  They need to speak up.  Help put an end to this nonsense.  What would happen if MIT (or Harvard, or Yale, or UCLA etc) stated publicly that:

  • Creationism is not science, it is a faith-based belief system that is debunked by science.
  • High school systems that include any form of Creationism in their science curriculum are not preparing students properly for the higher education offered at this college/university.
  • This college/university will no longer accept applicants for admission who come from high school systems that include any form of Creationism in their science curriculum.  

Such a stand may actually make school systems think twice before implementing this nonsense in their science curriculum.  Creationists need to be embarrassed out of existence.  Our colleges and universities have an obligation to speak up on this issue.  

Originally posted to PlanB on Sat Dec 29, 2007 at 08:13 AM PST.

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Comment Preferences

  •  Colleges SHOULD Take a Stand, BUT (2+ / 0-)
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    Rachel in Vista, daliscar

    I suspect they don't want to take any "controversial" positions that might endanger possible donations or endowments.

    I think a lot of spinelessness in many social realms is the result of such financial considerations. Selling one's soul doesn't come cheaply!

  •  Demographics--on your side? (0+ / 0-)

    While Generation Y is said to be the most liberal and anti-clerical yet, liberals still do not reproduce the way rural and poorer-white, conservative leaning Americans do.

    If those liberals who earn higher income would procreate and adopt more (3-4 instead of 1-2 children) then there would be a better chance those to be adopted children could grow up in an environment where they would become adults who understood about sex, civilization, were literate.  But in the meantime, liberals seem to be solely banking on having Hillary or John Edwards change education.

    Without a Senate and House blowout next year this is not a sure thing, nor would next year's election secure progress for future generations.

    Benazir Bhutto was the real Hugo Chavez. So in regards to the Society of Kossacks for the Beatification of Bhutto, excuse me while I barf.

    by Nulwee on Sat Dec 29, 2007 at 08:32:27 AM PST

    •  Not everyone has to be born in to a liberal upper (2+ / 0-)
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      marykk, dogheaven

      class well educated family to become a well educated liberal.  Just look at the number of people on this site (like the founder) who started out republican only to have the light shined on them at a later date.  There is a reason that the number of fundamentalist people is dropping every year, it is because of knowlegde that, these days, is easy to come by.

      just because I call you to task for shitting on Democrat y, does not mean I support y, or x or z. It only means you are an asshole.

      by ETinKC on Sat Dec 29, 2007 at 08:50:07 AM PST

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      •  Well let us just say easier. (1+ / 0-)
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        Nulwee

        There is a reason that the number of fundamentalist people is dropping every year, it is because of knowlegde that, these days, is easy to come by.

        I think we all assume that everyone has access to computers and the internet, making information easier to get to.  But without guidance and good teachers, you can access as much crap as good information.  I am sure you have seen all that bible based science website stuff.  It could fool some folks.

        Do you have any sources on fundies dropping?  I am not getting that idea.  I think there is a rise in publically stated, non believers, but I don't know that they are coming from the ranks of the growing fundies.

        "Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back." Carl Sagan

        by dogheaven on Sat Dec 29, 2007 at 09:18:26 AM PST

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      •  Not my point at all (1+ / 0-)
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        Abra Crabcakeya

        simply that, considering how expensive children are, it might be natural for Democratic voters (who tend to earn more than Republican voters by some standards) to raise children as their incomes would permit.

        Nothing about upper versus middle class or whatever.  

        My point was despite having larger incomes, liberal minded people tend to have fewer children.  Which is admirable, because children are also an environmental strain--a huge one.  But there are also millions of children regardless, ready for adoption, some of them.

        Benazir Bhutto was the real Hugo Chavez. So in regards to the Society of Kossacks for the Beatification of Bhutto, excuse me while I barf.

        by Nulwee on Sat Dec 29, 2007 at 09:25:20 AM PST

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  •  Every kindergarten, grade school, high school, (1+ / 0-)
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    LynneK

    and college/university should teach the scientific truth about six-day creationism and "intelligent design".

  •  Here is a good recent (0+ / 0-)

    story that goes into some good detail about the creationists in Texas.

    "Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back." Carl Sagan

    by dogheaven on Sat Dec 29, 2007 at 09:20:22 AM PST

  •  kids finished school 15 years ago. (2+ / 0-)
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    BlackSheep1, marykk

    One grandson has been exposed to all manner of idiocy in church-sponsored day care , kindergarten.
    We withdrew support (financial ) until a less abusive envoronment was located.

  •  Easiest rec I've made all day... (0+ / 0-)

    I'm SO sick of the 'the earth is 6000 years old' garbage.

    Great stuff, PlanB!

    :)

  •  Colleges and Universities ARE (0+ / 0-)

    taking a stand and speaking up.

    Here are a few positions from colleges I found with a quick google search.

    http://www.lehigh.edu/...
    http://www.biology.uiowa.edu/...
    http://www.biology.iastate.edu/...
    http://faculty.cns.uni.edu/...
    http://www.president.uidaho.edu/...

    Professors and scientists are trying to pass State legislation, protesting and speaking out. They may not get much coverage, but they are doing it.

    I can't believe that the Discovery Institute is officially located in MY congressional district--a district that elects McDermott in a landslide over and over. Blech.

    Don't make me use my "special nerd powers" on you.

    by SeattleLiberal on Sat Dec 29, 2007 at 02:30:51 PM PST

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