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I've been away for awhile. Though I've been keeping up with politics, other things in life have needed more attention.  Now, it's different.

I received an e-mail today from my aunt in Virginia.  It was a forward...which I hate!...but it was a political nature, so I was curious.  You may have seen it before.  It's called "Who is Barack Obama?" As soon as I read it, my head exploded.  

I have researched a bit concerning the hogwash contained in this e-mail but could use your help in preparing a response.  I have the e-mail addresses of everyone on the forward list and I am determined to politely, but firmly let them know that they are spreading lies.  I'll post the e-mail I am preparing.  The italic type is the original message.  The smaller bold type is my response.

Please help me out with info and fact checking.  It would be very much appreciated, but remember, these are religious people and would be offended (and would, therefore, delete without reading) by any obsenity.

It's always amazing to me that when the Republican party can't think of a constructive way to get elected, they resort to using lies to attack their opponents.  Below, I have done a little research myself.  You can, too, if you search for reputable sources on the internet.  You'll find the facts about "Who is Barack Obama?"  Personally, I think we only need to think of the person who constructed these falsehoods as the "wolf in sheep's clothing."  Shame on this person for sending this e-mail to all you good people with the full knowledge that it was untrue.  Did anyone on this list actually research this before they forwarded it?  Read below if you're not afraid to find out what the facts really are.

Who is Barack Obama?
"All Rightie Then," just in case you're interested..... We need to be very careful in selecting who is going to lead us.  This following reminds me of a scripture in the Holy Bible where it cautions us to beware of "wolves in sheep's clothing."

Who is Barack Obama?

U.S. presidential candidate, Barack Hussein Obama was born in Honolulu, Hawaii, to Barack Hussein Obama, Sr., a black MUSLIM from Nyangoma -Koge l,  Kenya and Ann Dunham, a white ATHIEST from Wichita ,Kansas.

Fact:  Yes, Obama was named after his father, who grew up a sheep herder in Kenya. "Hussein" is a family name, like Thomas or Barbara, Smith or Jones. Here's the history of Barack Obama's family.  His paternal grandfather was a domestic servant to the British.  His mother's parents were, in fact, from Kansas.  Obama's maternal grandfather joined Patton's army the day after Pearl Harbor was bombed.  His grandmother worked on a bomber assembly line during WWII.

Obama's parents met at the University of Hawaii. When Obama was two years old, his parents divorced.  His father returned to Kenya.  His mother then married Lolo Soetoro, a RADICAL Muslim from Indonesia.

Fact: Obama's parents did divorce when he was two years old.  His father did return to his home in Kenya after studying and receiving his PhD from Harvard University.  His step father, Lolo Soetoro worked for the Indonesian government and, later a US oil company before he and Obama's mother divorced.

When Obama was 6 years old, the family relocated to Indonesia.  Obama attended a MUSLIM school in Jakarta.  He also spent two years in Catholic school.

Fact: Obama lived in Indonesia from 1967 to 1971.  The "Muslim" school he attended was a public school much like public schools in the US.  CNN already debunked the myth that this school taught Muslim principles.

Obama takes great care to conceal the fact that he is a Muslim.  He is quick to point out that, "He was once a Muslim, but that he also attended Catholic school."

Fact: Obama was never raised as a Muslim. His mother was not raised in a religious home and did not want her son educated in a school that taught radical religious beliefs.  In his twenties, he worked with local churches as a community organizer.  He was baptized in the Trinity Union Church of Christ.

Obama's political handlers are attempting to make it appear that Obama's introduct ion to Islam came via his father, and that this influence was temp orary at best.  In reality, the senior Obama returned to Kenya soon after the divorce,  and never again had any direct influence over his son's education.

Fact: Obama was never raised as a Muslim.  We already covered that.

Lolo Soetoro, the second husband of Obama's mother, Ann Dunham, introduced his stepson to Islam.  Obama was enrolled in a Wahabi school in Jakarta.  Wahabism is the RADICAL teaching that is followed by the Muslim terrorists who are now waging Jihad against the western world.

Fact:  Again, CNN has already proven this a lie.  Obama attended the Basuki school in Jakarta, "a public school with no particular religious agenda", attended by students of numerous ethnic backgrounds.  Wahabism has it's origins in Saudi Arabia, ally to the US government's Bush Administration.  Wahaba scholars hotly dispute any ties between their sect and Osama bin Laden.

Since it is politically expedient to be a CHRISTIAN when seeking major public office in the United States , Barack Hussein Obama has joined the United Church of Christ in an attempt to down-play his Muslim background.

Fact:  Which Christian tenet says it's okay to lie repeatedly about someone in order to gain political favor?

Let us all remain alert concerning Obama's presidential candidacy.  The Muslims have said they plan on destroying the US from the inside out, what better way to start than at the highest level - through the President of the United States, one of their own!!
ALSO, keep in mind that when he was sworn into office - he DID NOT use the Holy Bible,  but instead the Kuran (Their equivalent to our Bible, but very different beliefs).  HE ALSO WONT SALUTE THE FLAG, OR PLEDGE ALLEGANCE TO IT

Fact:  This is just absolute hogwash.  If you'll read parts of one of Obama's speeches below, you'll learn that yourself.  Incidentally, Keith Ellison, a representative from the state of Minnesota is the only government official to be sworn into office with the Koran, instead of a Bible.  Note to whoever wrote this:  If you're going to slander someone, at least get the spelling of "Koran" right.

Please forward to everyone you know.  Would you want this man leading our country?....
I would!  I really hadn't made up my mind who to support in this election.  The small-minded dribble in this e-mail convinced me that people like the one who wrote this are the people we need to worry about.  They are the ones who are tearing our country apart from the inside out.  And it's all for the love of money and power.

Have you listened to Barack Obama?  I can't think of a message more full of hope and promise for the future than the one I've included below.  It certainly doesn't sound like anything I've heard from a Republican candidate lately.  And yes, I have listened.  It's the only way to make an intelligent choice.

Here's what he has to say:

"We are one people, all of us pledging allegiance to the stars and stripes, all of us defending the United States of America.  In the end, that's what this election is about.  Do we participate in a politics of cynicism or do we participate in a politics of hope?  Hope in the face of difficulty, hope in the face of uncertainty, the audacity of hope.  In the end, that is God's greatest gift to us, the bedrock of this nation; a belief in things not seen; a belief that there are better days ahead.  I believe we can give our middle class relief and provide working families with a road to opportunity.  I believe that we have the righteous wind at our backs, and that as we stand on the crossroads of history, we can make the right choices and meet the challenges that face us."

The facts shall set you free.  Don’t vote in the dark.

Originally posted to VA2CA on Tue Jan 08, 2008 at 05:53 PM PST.

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  •  Glad (6+ / 0-)

    you glued your head back together to post this for us all

  •  I wouldn't begin to explain away Muslim influence (4+ / 0-)

    Islam is not a disease, not a crime.  I would refuse to buy into bigotry by saying, "You're wrong, Obama is not Muslim," I would say, "What do you have against Muslims?"

    What huge imago made A psychopathic god. - W H Auden

    by Orpheus on Tue Jan 08, 2008 at 06:03:30 PM PST

    •  Thanks. (3+ / 0-)

      I started out thinking that these were the kind of small minded people who would be really influenced by that, but now that I think about it, htey have a large Muslim community in the general area.  Good point!

      http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dontvoteinthedark/

      by VA2CA on Tue Jan 08, 2008 at 06:08:50 PM PST

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      •  No I don't agree. (1+ / 0-)
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        If Obama is not religious or a christian the person who says he is muslim should be corrected.

        Trying to change the bias/prejudice/fear against Islam in the middle of a campaign is ridiculous.  We can start that with our policies after he or  any other democrat is elected.

        "Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back." Carl Sagan

        by dogheaven on Tue Jan 08, 2008 at 06:37:32 PM PST

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        •  I see your point of view (0+ / 0-)

          I can see the point that we need to comfort these people who are freaked out by that kind of thing.  Now I'm really confused!  They do have a Muslim presence in Podunk, VA, but do they regard them with this amount of suspicion?  I don't know.

          http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dontvoteinthedark/

          by VA2CA on Tue Jan 08, 2008 at 06:47:24 PM PST

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          •  I am guessing they do. (2+ / 0-)
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            bustacap, VA2CA

            But I think that is off point.  The point of the slime email is to say that BHO is Muslim and hiding it.  That is what has to be corrected.  

            Under construction.

            by dogheaven on Tue Jan 08, 2008 at 09:23:46 PM PST

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            •  You're right. (2+ / 0-)
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              Thnaks for replying.  I know these small-minded people better than most.  My daughters don't get any birthday cards or presents from my ex-husbands family because they are considered "lost causes".  What a shame that this is what it comes down to.  They are so willing to believe these lies...and I guess I'm just as bad for not letting it go.

              See my reply to Paticia Bruner below.  I changed my mind in trying to explain.

              Thanks.  And good luck. :)

              http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dontvoteinthedark/

              by VA2CA on Tue Jan 08, 2008 at 09:31:36 PM PST

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  •  Snopes.com has a rebuttal (7+ / 0-)

    of the exact same letter here . They even have sources at the end of the article.

    My favorite email though is the one where it gives the birthdate of several prominent Democratic leaders as nine months after the Roswell crash. Yep.

  •  Your response might be too wordy... (7+ / 0-)

    You could also include links to the following:

    Video of CNN debunking the Madrassa smear (includes actual journalism!): http://thinkprogress.org/...

    Snopes article about the same issue (you could explain that snopes is an urban myth debunking site):  http://www.snopes.com/...

    You should also point out that there are no authoritative sources included in their original e-mail and that you can't even determine who the original author is, which, as far as I'm concerned, means someone doens't want to take responsibility for their lies.  thou shalt not bear false witness!

    My Dad sends me this stuff sometimes and occasionally I 'Reply All' which really pisses him off.  I figure they're the ones polluting my inbox with half-truths and outright lies so why not let them have it?

    American overseas? Register to vote at www.VoteFromAbroad.org

    by YoyogiBear on Tue Jan 08, 2008 at 06:08:18 PM PST

  •  Welcome to the General Election (1+ / 0-)
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    If Obama wins the nomination, every American "Manchurian Voter" who receives their news from corporate-owned television channels -- will be able to recite this screed by heart.

    When the curtain closes behind them -- they'll vote out of fear -- again.

    Just sayin'

    __________________
    Fascism ought to more properly be called Corporatism since it is the merger of state and corporate power. - Mussolini

    by Pluto on Tue Jan 08, 2008 at 06:09:42 PM PST

  •  my conservative brother (2+ / 0-)
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    often forwards right wing hogswill to everyone. Usually, I'm the only one who bothers to go to snopes and so far, all his forwards were 100% hoaxes. So I would say check out snopes and see if they have debunked this.

    Is that a rhetorical question?

    by Pan Zareta on Tue Jan 08, 2008 at 06:35:08 PM PST

  •  Since they are so religious (1+ / 0-)
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    ... you should remind them about the Biblical Commandment condemning those who bear false witness against their fellow.  Also, you should remind them of Jesus' admonition about judging not lest ye be judged and the sinless one casting the first stone.

    I would suggest that you a) provide links to the debunking of each lie, and b) instead of saying "we already covered this", say as demonstrated above, this is a flat-out lie.  Repeat as many times as necessary.

    i am jack's complete lack of surprise -- fight club

    by bustacap on Tue Jan 08, 2008 at 07:15:48 PM PST

  •  I will preface my remarks by (3+ / 0-)
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    exNYinTX, bustacap, VA2CA

    saying that I am an Edwards supporter and an Obama admirer.  I will also add that I am not giving you advice as to how you should reply, I am only talking about what I am prepared to do should Obama become the candidate for the Democratic party.  For me this is going to be a personal fight, I am a person of mixed race who has married into a family of narrow-minded, conservative fraidy cats.  I have heard disparaging remarks about Senator Obama from some family members and have already tried the rational approach, the polite route. I am no longer comfortable listening to their thinly disguised bigotry.  I told my husband after the Iowa victory that if this attitude prevails I will not tolerate their ridiculous stupidity in my presence. I will speak out against them, I am going to speak loudly and I will take no prisoners Period. No more Mrs. Nice Guy.

    "As nightfall does not come at once, neither does oppression..." William O. Douglas

    by Patricia Bruner on Tue Jan 08, 2008 at 07:50:02 PM PST

    •  You are a brave soul! (0+ / 0-)

      My Mom is a dedicated Neocon...only because she got alot of money in a divorce settlement.  She thinks it's okay to tell everyone else what to do now, but she has learned that she does not "talk politics" with me or my sister. She can't win.  It's a tag-team event....LOL!  

      I admire your strength of character.  I wouldn't blame you if you just let it go. Political arguments rarely lead to anything good, HOWEVER....if there's someone in the crowd who has doubts about "staying the course", it could be the straw the camel needed.

      I changed my e-mail reply to those on the list to this:

      If you believe the claims in the forwarded e-mail, then, I'm sorry to have to tell you that Santa Claus, the tooth fairy and the Easter bunny are all fairytales.  You could go to www.vote-smart.org to examine the public records and read speeches of candidates, or to www.snopes.com to learn truth from lies, or you could even, GASP!, listen to the candidates themselves. But you really didn't want to spend that much time on it, did you?  Do us all a favor, don't vote if you're not willing to listen to the truth.

      I know that's mildly inflamatory, but the forward was offensive to me.

      Good luck to you!  Let me know how it turns out.

      http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dontvoteinthedark/

      by VA2CA on Tue Jan 08, 2008 at 09:26:56 PM PST

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      •  Thanks, I'm really not very brave (0+ / 0-)

        just fed up.  When they talk about Obama that way I wonder what they think of me and my children.  I wonder if we aren't white enough to suit their needs.  The delicious irony of all of this is that my family's American pedigree is much more impressive than that of my husband's family.  I really resent the fact that some of those on the right are trying to portray Obama as a "fureigner" what a lame ruse to cover up the racism behind their efforts.

        "As nightfall does not come at once, neither does oppression..." William O. Douglas

        by Patricia Bruner on Wed Jan 09, 2008 at 11:38:47 AM PST

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  •  Your first paragraph: (2+ / 0-)
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    bustacap, VA2CA

    How many times do you have to catch someone lying to you before you stop believing them? Once? (Shame on them.) Twice? (Shame on you.) Three times? A hundred? A thousand? Here's [X] lies to start you off.

    Last paragraph: So how many lies does it take to discredit the source?

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