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UPDATE:  I did something, in my haste, that was impolite.  Therefore, I hope it's not too late to credit the wonderfully informed link I published in this diary to it's rightful owner, hilzoy, over on Obsidian Wings.  If you will imagine, hilzoy - an Obama audience of applause headed your way.

I don't know how many of you have caught Tweety, twice now, ask some politician who supports Obama, to name his legislative accomplishments.  Tonight it was a Congressman from Texas.  Sorry, wasn't paying attention to his name.

Tweety asked the magic question and the dude from Texas was suddenly struck dumb on the spot.  Then, Hill's supporter, (all I remember is that she was from Ohio) began bragging about how Hillary has passed all kinds of legislation.  Of course, Tweety neglected to ask her to name one.

More below the fold:

So, this diary is my best attempt at getting someone from the Obama campaign's attention to let them know that they need to get a comprehensive list of Obama's legislative accomplishments (Illinois and U.S.) out to every Democrat in the U.S.

In the meantime - for the rest of you mokes, here's a short list with explanation of Obama's legislation.  It ain't lightweight either.  So, read it.  Memorize it.  Use it.  You're gonna need it.

HERE ARE SOME OF OBAMA'S LEGISLATIVE ACCOMPLISHMENTS

So, once again.  READ IT.  MEMORIZE IT.  USE IT.  YOU'RE GONNA NEED IT.

Pleasant dreams.  

Originally posted to nolalily on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 08:18 PM PST.

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  •  That State Senator is a MORON (142+ / 0-)
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    That pissed me off.

    I'm barely paying attention and I know that it includes ethics reform, government spending sunshine, and nuclear proliferation legislation.

  •  It's not what he has accomplished (17+ / 0-)

    It's what he will accomplish.

    How many legislative accomplishments did John Kennedy have?  Abraham Lincoln?  How many did George W. Bush have, for that matter?

    It's a meaningless question, when you're sizing up a president, let alone the leader of a political movement.

    Hanoi didn't break John McCain, but Washington did.

    by Dallasdoc on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 08:20:59 PM PST

    •  Oh brother (17+ / 0-)

      we have to do better than that.

      You cannot stand in front of progress for your country because of your fears, you must stand behind Her in spite of them.

      by coigue on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 08:24:44 PM PST

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      •  Not really (10+ / 0-)

        If that becomes the criterion for judging candidates, McCain wins.  He's got a long list of major bills with his name on them, even if he's not abiding by them (like McCain-Feingold).

        This election is about tomorrow vs. yesterday, hope vs. fear, change vs. status quo.  If it's framed that way, we win easy.  The more we fret about Republican-leaning frames rather than pushing our own, the more we play their game.

        Hanoi didn't break John McCain, but Washington did.

        by Dallasdoc on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 08:40:39 PM PST

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        •  I see your point. HOWEVER (6+ / 0-)

          answering the charge will allow us to move on to the topic we wish to address....rather than letting doubt stew.

          It's not about who has the most experience, it's about McCain trying to say that Obama hasn't ENOUGH experience.

          You cannot stand in front of progress for your country because of your fears, you must stand behind Her in spite of them.

          by coigue on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 08:49:34 PM PST

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          •  All the answer needs to do... (9+ / 0-)

            ... is reinforce Obama's campaign themes and contrast him with McCain.

            He's passed ethics reform because it's the right thing to do.  McCain pushed campaign finance reform (which he's ignoring now) because he had to do penance for the Keating Five scandal.

            Obama teamed up with a Republican to pass a law increasing government transparency.  McCain bottled up 3/4 of a million documents on the Jack Abramoff scandal when he was a committee chair.

            These are the ways to answer that question.  Highlight an issue you want to bring up, and make your candidate look good and the other guy look bad.  There are probably dozens of ways to do that, and it takes the issue away from comparative experience.

            Hanoi didn't break John McCain, but Washington did.

            by Dallasdoc on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 08:57:21 PM PST

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          •  It's possible to have all the wrong experience... (7+ / 0-)

            ...General George Armstrong Custer, the Union hero at Gettysburg, had a lot of combat experience, and was very adept at killing confederate soldiers and Native American Indians. But he was a personal failure as a leader, letting his ego cost him the lives of his 7th Cavalry at the Little Big Horn, underestimating the Indians and over-estimating his own mortality. He said on more than one occasion, "There isn't an Indian alive who can defeat the 7th Cavalry".

            McCain and the repubs have the same mindset as Custer, trusting in their own sense of immortality and having and air of invincibility that will cost America dearly one day. "There isn't a horse that can't be rode, or a cowboy that can't be throwed".

            "Great men do not commit murder. Great nations do not start wars". William Jennings Bryan

            by ImpeachKingBushII on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 09:51:30 PM PST

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        •  Not so sure. (2+ / 0-)
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          If that becomes the criterion for judging candidates, McCain wins.  He's got a long list of major bills with his name on them, even if he's not abiding by them (like McCain-Feingold).

          Really? I don't buy it. McCain-Feingold is one. (I'd ask for actual legislative accomplishments, not just bills--unpassed, obscure subject matter, etc.--with the guy's name on them.)

          Who can name another?

          •  To chime in with me, (1+ / 0-)
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            I'll bring in Matthew Yglesias:

            I've mentioned this before and I'll obviously have to say it again, but the reality of McCain's career is that for a man who's been in congress 25 years his legislative record is incredibly thin. This is what comes from being the kind of guy who curses at his colleagues, spends 80 percent of his time mugging for the cameras, and has little interest in or knowledge of domestic policy issues.

            MattY's a Famous Blogger, so I am clearly right on this point. [ :-) ]

      •  How many accomplishments (3+ / 0-)
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        should a Democratic senator in a Republican dominated congress and a Republican president make?  If they had legislation that managed to get through the process, then you have to look at what they had to compromise to get the legislation through.

        January 20. 2009 cannot come soon enough.

        by Crisis Corps Volunteer on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 08:55:15 PM PST

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      •  Instead of saying "oh brother... (2+ / 0-)
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        ...we have to do better", why not tell us what your better way is instead of putting what Dallasdoc said down? You got a lot of rec'ds for the putdown. Now let's see how many you get for telling us what your "better way" is, ok, brother?

        "Great men do not commit murder. Great nations do not start wars". William Jennings Bryan

        by ImpeachKingBushII on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 09:39:25 PM PST

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        •  Oh the moral outrage. (0+ / 0-)

          Puh-lease.

          See my response to your other, more beefy (and custardy) comment.

          You cannot stand in front of progress for your country because of your fears, you must stand behind Her in spite of them.

          by coigue on Wed Feb 20, 2008 at 08:40:32 AM PST

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    •  You Have to Play in the Media We Have (4+ / 0-)
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      not some rational world of fair debate.

      They've had a terrible media week, and evidently it didn't hurt them tonight but some polling is showing some Clinton gains from it.

      They need to figure this out Real Soon Now.

      We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

      by Gooserock on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 08:31:35 PM PST

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    •  But He does Have Accomplishments (23+ / 0-)

      It is time that we stop the MSM from perpetuating his inexperience myth:

      The facts straight from the Senate Record.

      Now, I would post those of Obama's from Illinois, but the list is too substantive, so I'll mainly categorize. During the first (8) eight years of his elected service he sponsored over 820 bills.

      233 regarding healthcare reform,
      125 on poverty and public assistance,
      112 crime fighting bills,
      97 economic bills,
      60 human rights and anti-discrimination bills,
      21 ethics reform bills,
      15 gun control,
      6 veterans affairs and many others.

      His first year in the U.S. Senate, he authored 152 bills and co-sponsored another 427. These included:

      **the Coburn-Obama Government Transparen cy Act of 2006 (became law),
      **The Lugar-Obama Nuclear Non-proliferation and Conventional Weapons Threat Reduction Act,(became law),
      **The Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act, passed the Senate,
      **The 2007 Government Ethics Bill,(became law),
      **The Protection Against Excessive Executive Compensation Bill,(In committee),

      •  Besides, He is the Only One Who Has Gotten His (4+ / 0-)

        Hands dirty - working with real people on the streets as a social organizer, with young people as a Constitutional law prof, created laws as an Illinois legislator that really impacted people, and finally as a US Senator with transparency, etc.

        •  You had me (4+ / 0-)

          at "constitutional law prof."  My ConLaw prof was one of my favorite professors in law school, and I would SO love to have a president who's versed in the bleeding constitution.  So if anyone asks me what his accomplishments are, I'll say "he understands the frickin' constitution, unlike any of the Republicans I've heard about, and he isn't a warmonger.  That's what I want in a president."

          Karen in Austin

          Just ignore your rights and they'll go away (from a bumper sticker).

          by Wife of Bath on Wed Feb 20, 2008 at 03:51:58 AM PST

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      •  I Provided a Link to that Summary Upthread (5+ / 0-)

        Again Obama's IL Senate Legislation

        I'm going to fax this to Matthews when I get to work tomorrow morning.

        Sorry for the repetition, but I am royally pissed at Matthews

      •  Numbers are meaningless in that context (1+ / 0-)
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        So he's sponsored over 820 bills.  I need to know how many have passed and why they matter.  If he sponsored 820 bills but none passed, that would be an indication of a colossal failure, not a list of accomplishments.

        The question that needs to be substantively answered is about his accomplishments - quality, not quantity.

        "Society is like a stew. If you don't keep it stirred up you get a lot of scum on the top." -Edward Abbey

        by rb608 on Wed Feb 20, 2008 at 04:39:13 AM PST

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        •  do the research then..... (3+ / 0-)

          if numbers do not count, kinda sounds like words are cheap, heh?  If you can blog then you can google.  Why wait for someone else to tell you what they think his accomplishments are.  It is most likely at this late stage of the game if you do not know then you do not want to know.

          •  You can't be serious (0+ / 0-)

            I ask why a candidate is qualified to be President, and you tell me to look it up?  Call me crazy, but that seems to me the responsibility of a candidate and his campaign staff.  If I ask for information, I want answers, not a research project.

            I understand why he's qualified; but a lot of people are still looking for a good reason.  Come the general election, those ranks will be larger.  He's not going to win those people without clear and ready answers.  I came to this thread because I don't know the answers, but want to be able to be "on message" when speaking to others.

            I support Obama; I voted for him in my primary; and I'd like to see him go all the way; but if the "no accomplishments" meme takes hold, we're not going to solve it by telling folks to Google it.

            "Society is like a stew. If you don't keep it stirred up you get a lot of scum on the top." -Edward Abbey

            by rb608 on Wed Feb 20, 2008 at 12:34:04 PM PST

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            •  but wait..... (0+ / 0-)

              you voted for someone because of.........surprise, surprise....he has a website, he has a history, a track record.  OR you can go to CNN they did a special about him last night. Very interesting person..I think I might even be impressed..that is why he was chosen to think about running for president someone saw greatness in him early on.  Even if a person tells you something, you still need to make certain that it is true.  Oh, wait do not tell me you are one of those people who believed that Iraq had WMD's?

              Think about your statement....that question has an individual answer.  The reasons why a person is qualified for me may be different then your qualifications requirements Huh?  

              All I am saying is there is absolutely no reason why at this stage in the game people are still asking where is the beef?  Unless they just do not want to know, We are almost to the Convention.

    •  I agree to a point, but I agree with the diarist (10+ / 0-)

      as well that Obama's surrogates need to be prepared to answer questions like the one that Tweety proposed.  They need to answer the question with a short and concise list of his accomplishments like Obama's sponsorship of legislation vastly expanding health care coverage in Illinois, his sponsorship of legislation requiring all confessions to be videotaped, and most recently his leadership in helping to pass ethics reform legislation as a U.S. Senator.  Then after mentioning a couple of his legislative accomplishments, they can pivot to your point that this election is not just about what the Obama has already accomplished but what he will accomplish if elected.

    •  He embraces the good parts of bipartisanship... (2+ / 0-)
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      ...of reaching out to the other side of the aisle to accomplish laws that actually help people instead of standing up for the powerful monied interests, without compromising his principles, or becoming something he's not in the process and betraying his party, like the disgraced ex-Dem now repub in every way Lieberman did. I encourage everyone to do as the diarest advised and READ that link and its sub-links! IT IS RICH. It shows that Obama has leadership qualities, and an ability to adapt and overcome party differences for the good of the people.

      We finally have a winner here, people. Let's not blow it. If you've never believed anything I've ever wrote before, trust me on this one, folks: Obama's a keeper and as president he's going to be one of the TOP FIVE GREATEST ONES!  [I needn't remind anyone here who is the worst, or who will be next to worst if he's elected, do I? Ok, it's Bush and McCain, in that order].

      "Great men do not commit murder. Great nations do not start wars". William Jennings Bryan

      by ImpeachKingBushII on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 09:35:38 PM PST

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    •  It is a relevant question though. (2+ / 0-)
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      The Legislative accomplishment of a Senator running for President are relevant!

      And the question of "What do you like about Obama?" is one that his supporters should be able to answer, particularly on national TV

  •  Damn Right, Nolalily.....Great Shout Out!!! (15+ / 0-)

    Wake up Obama Campaign, Tweety is just in love with the sound of his voice and I can't stand listening to him when he goes on a toot.

    Shut him up with the facts.

    Thanks Nolalily

    Demand a "voter verified paper trail" in every election, in every state. Sign Rush Holt's Petition for HR. 811.

    by SeaTurtle on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 08:21:27 PM PST

    •  Be fair to Tweety (6+ / 0-)
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      Or don't, it's not like he's being fair to us. BUT... he asked a fair question, one that other press and regular people will ask. It's an obvious attack line, one that we should be able to defend and even turn back upon the attacker.

      Like the diarist says, we should all be able to ANSWER THE QUESTION.

      •  Why Did The Tweet Fail to Ask Tubbs-Jones... (4+ / 0-)

        the same "hardball" question?

        I am so bored of Hillary Clinton telling me how experienced she is.

        Show. Don't tell.

        I think Obama has been kind to her in not forcing her to articulate that focused response.

        Serving as First Lady is not experience. I don't exactly see Nancy Reagan as a potential presidential Republican canddidate.

        "George Bush Doesn't Care About People"

        by WriterRoss on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 11:07:59 PM PST

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      •  More than that... (2+ / 0-)
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        ... the question in and of itself should be a softball for any educated campaign surrogate.  The Senator's complete "deer in the headlights" response was what elicited Tweety's outrage.  It was as if he was more upset at the Obama campaign for being so unfocused as to not educate a named surrogate about Obama's record as he was trying to nail the guy.

        It was a shot across the bow to the Obama campaign - "tighten up the ship!"

        I hope they get the message.

        •  that's definitely a reasonable way to look at it (2+ / 0-)
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          and so, with that logic, Tweety's rage could be an enormous help to the Obama campaign.  

          I hope you're right.

          Demand a "voter verified paper trail" in every election, in every state. Sign Rush Holt's Petition for HR. 811.

          by SeaTurtle on Wed Feb 20, 2008 at 07:35:31 AM PST

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  •  I guess that the guy couldn't just say (8+ / 0-)

    "look up the diaries by democratic luntz, Just Angry, maxwell, femlaw etc." like I always do.

    If she's so hardworking and wonky, why didn't she read the NIE before voting for the war?

    by Inland on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 08:21:35 PM PST

  •  All caps??? Rude... (3+ / 0-)
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    Its the delegates that count

    by Morgan Sandlin on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 08:22:06 PM PST

  •  Here's another must read for Surrogates (3+ / 0-)
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    "Never separate the life you live from the words you speak" -Paul Wellstone

    by WellstoneDem on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 08:22:13 PM PST

  •  Obama has authored 100x more legislation (7+ / 1-)

    than Clinton. And all of her bills have been about naming post offices and making up new holidays. This stupid piece of shit (former mayor of Austin apparently) should be sent home for good and never invited back to a cable news program.

    -fink

    Al Gore didn't lose in 2000. America did.

    by fink on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 08:22:33 PM PST

    •  dont forget (4+ / 0-)

      her foray into the world of an amendment against flag burning...

      Politics is like driving...if you want to go backwards, choose R. If you want to move forward, choose D.

      by fireflynw on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 08:24:37 PM PST

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    •  Now _that_ is a snark clusterbomb. (0+ / 0-)

      I'm not even sure where it's aimed... and the first guy who rec'd the comment names himself after a conspiratorial freemason from a Thomas Mann novel, so I'm pretty damn sure it's over my head.

      Help Russ Feingold help progressive candidates - support the Progressive Patriots Fund.

      by scardanelli on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 08:26:09 PM PST

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    •  for what it's worth (1+ / 1-)
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      Dick Morris, former Clinton surrogate/advisor, details Hillary's accomplishments.

      If she were McCain, she could tout a long history of legislative success on key issues and herald her ability to pass bills and engineer progress. But she hasn’t done that. She hasn’t walked the walk so now she cannot talk the talk. ... As a first lady, Hillary’s sole important legislative involvement came during the first two years of her husband’s presidency when she sought to pass her ill-conceived health care reform, an effort that failed so miserably that it cost her party control of the House of Representatives for the first time in 40 years. . . .

      In the Senate, she has largely spent her time raising funds for herself and other Democrats (in hopes of attracting the votes of super delegates) and promoting her best selling memoir Living History. In part because of a lack of attention and also because of the Democrats’ minority status during much of her Senate tenure, she has passed very, very little of note.

    •  BULLSHIT (0+ / 0-)

      look, this is a positive diary about Obama, and lots of people have been positive in describing his accomplishments.  Why did you feel the need to repeat a LIE that originated at NewsMax, of all places?

      I see here, repeatedly, people writing about bills Obama sponsored.  Hillary has sponsored  plenty of bills herself.  Here is a small sample, and it does NOT include post offices and holidays:

      S.140 : A bill to provide for a domestic defense fund to improve the Nation's homeland defense, and for other purposes.

      S.211 : A bill to facilitate nationwide availability of 2-1-1 telephone service for information and referral on human services, volunteer services, and for other purposes.

      S.450 : A bill to amend the Help America Vote Act of 2002 to require a voter-verified paper record, to improve provisional balloting, to impose additional requirements under such Act, and for other purposes.

      S.841 : A bill to amend the Fair Labor Standards Act of 1938 to provide more effective remedies to victims of discrimination in the payment of wages on the basis of sex, and for other purposes.

      S.844 : A bill to expand access to preventive health care services that help reduce unintended pregnancy, reduce the number of abortions, and improve access to women's health care.

      S.968 : A bill to amend chapters 83 and 84 of title 5, United States Code, to provide that spouses of Federal public safety officers who are killed in the line of duty, may remarry and continue to receive a survivor annuity, and for other purposes.

      S.1028 : A bill to amend title 10, United States Code, to enhance the protection of members of the Armed Forces and their spouses from unscrupulous financial services sales practices through increased consumer education, and for other purposes.

      Feel free to belittle preventing unwanted pregnancy, paper trails for ballots, or fair wages acts, but stop spreading NewsMax bullshit.

      Also, shame on every one of you who recommended this canard.

      If you refuse to vote for OUR PARTY'S nominee in November, the blood of a thousand back-alley abortions will be on your hands.

      by dhonig on Wed Feb 20, 2008 at 08:35:50 AM PST

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  •  Foward it to Tweety n/t (1+ / 0-)
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  •  and..must work on the Commander-in-Chief angle... (3+ / 0-)
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    ...Clinton is intending on hitting him with in the Debate.

    •  And Hillary is more qualified... (2+ / 0-)
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      ...why?

      Isn't it discouraging to think how many people are shocked by honesty and how few by deceit? (Noel Coward)

      by Mid10Dem on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 08:32:50 PM PST

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    •  How about (3+ / 0-)
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      he'll be a better Commander in Chief on Day One than Bush after eight years, because:

      - he will not make up reasons just to have his war

      - he will not have people die for him, just to secure him a place in the history books

      - he will actually listen to Generals who know their stuff

      Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -- Philip K. Dick

      by RandomGuyFromGermany on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 08:34:41 PM PST

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      •  not Bush... (0+ / 0-)

        McCain.  But I think the answer is McCain is ratifying Bush in his speeches.

        Can anyone tell me what's "centrist" about using the Constitution to wipe your ass? - ActivistGuy

        by billlaurelMD on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 08:38:35 PM PST

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      •  I always liked his Right on day one (3+ / 0-)
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        line. Judgement matters.

        But we needs to show how he takes that judgement and makes it work in government.

        ~Blue: the pale kind (often referred to as ice) with a touch of seafoam~

        by CWalter on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 08:43:25 PM PST

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        •  I would like to see Obama (3+ / 0-)
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          tell why he was against the war and that he also knew that the end result would likely be the disaster that it turned out be with the factions fighting each other. (And I just gotta say, I sure wish we could stop this war NOW! It is just so sad.) His reasons and his assessment of the situation in Iraq was exactly right. People need to know that. Not just that he opposed the war. He needs to work that into his speeches.

          ~*-:¦:-jennybravo-:¦:-*~

          by jennybravo on Wed Feb 20, 2008 at 01:26:46 AM PST

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    •  No war = no commander in chief needed (0+ / 0-)

      We are ELECTING A PRESIDENT.  Not a head General.

      RIGHT on day one is much more important.

      Not starting aggressive war, is more important.

      If your only tool is a hammer, everything looks like a nail. (NOTE my plagiarism since I don't know who said it first and thereby can't give credit.)

      Founding fathers put CIVILIAN authority in control of military for good reason.  Did Lincoln have any military experience??????????????????

      The OATH doesn't say WHUPASS, it says to keep the CONSTITUTION safe.   He TAUGHT constitutional law.
      Stick THAT in someone's experience.

      De fund + de bunk = de EXIT--->>>>>

      by Neon Mama on Wed Feb 20, 2008 at 02:26:07 AM PST

      [ Parent ]

  •  Recommended (6+ / 0-)

    No more witless surrogates.  There's PLENTY to talk about.  Learn it before you go on the air!

    "Tired out and ready to go to bed" John McCain (h/t ipsos)

    by huckleberry on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 08:22:46 PM PST

  •  The campaign needs better surrogates (14+ / 0-)

    This wasn't a night to send out a two-bit Texas State Senator out there on behalf of the candidate (though any elected supporter should be expected to know the candidate's accomplishments).  This is starting to become a problem, as Gov. Doyle couldn't name anything either.  I think the campaign will get a wake-up call after this one and send out a talking points memo to its surrogates.  This diary would help.

    •  My guess is (0+ / 0-)

      that dude was scraped out of the bottom of the barrel by MSNBC scouts.  He never should have been on and is certainly NOT an authorized Obama spokesperson.

      I got tased in *The Great Markos Candidate Meltdown Cranky Pants Sting of Ought 7*

      by nolalily on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 09:08:21 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

      •  I didn't see the program (1+ / 0-)
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        but I am very unhappy to hear that it was Kirk Watson who is the subject of this diary.

        this is Kirk Watson in Austin doing precinct captain training in Austin.

        I have no idea how he was picked to speak on the show. He hasn't been a state senator for very long and probably had never been on national TV before.

        "The miracle isn't that I finished...The miracle is I had the courage to start." -- Anonymous

        by bruised toes on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 09:30:38 PM PST

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  •  They need to be pushing his accomplishments hard (5+ / 0-)

    and asking the questions about Hillary's accomplishments.  His legislative record in his short time there is much more impressive than hers.  

    Full Disclosure: I'm an Obama Supporter

    by smash artist on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 08:23:18 PM PST

  •  Kit Watson was his name, IIRC (3+ / 0-)
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    Friggin' moran. He made the rest of us look like idiot :-)

  •  sorry, that link is useless (2+ / 0-)
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    what we could use is summary of top-5 or top-10 with what it was, when, and why it matters

  •  but that idiotic (9+ / 0-)

    guy Matthews was interviewing isn't from "the Obama campaign", he's just a supporter.  both Matthews and the Congresswoman made themselves look silly by acting as if this guy not knowing what he was talking about somehow reflected poorly on Obama.

    Unable to rate comments! *Obama '08*

    by itsbenj on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 08:23:54 PM PST

    •  it's what they do... (3+ / 0-)
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      to drum up controversy.  Need to be ready for that.

      Can anyone tell me what's "centrist" about using the Constitution to wipe your ass? - ActivistGuy

      by billlaurelMD on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 08:40:14 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

      •  An important point... (0+ / 0-)

        I saw that the discussion on MSNBC had taken a decidely more critical turn against Obama after that. It's like his front-runner status has now given them free rein to attack all the small stuff that comes up in a campaign and make it somehow larger than it really is. We (and they) have been doing it to Clinton, but I think they sense the change in horse position (since everything is a horse race/sporting event) and are about to turn their sights on Obama, even more than before. The people who are speaking on his behalf better be ready for that.

    •  asdf (0+ / 0-)

      If that is the case then the Obama campaign should have had a surrogate high enough in the campaign available for MSNBC producers to not want to dig up a somebody on their own.

      While I appreciate and like the fact that the Obama campaign may not want to make their campaign about spin, I personally feel they need to manage the press better than they have been. This includes having qualified and prepared representatives ready and available to the MSM.

  •  nonproliferation (2+ / 0-)
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    is a mighty big word...

    "In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

    by Thomas McMillan on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 08:25:46 PM PST

    •  Yeah, I agree, it's easy to stumble on it... (2+ / 0-)
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      ...during a fight. Instead of non-proliferation, maybe say "bill to prevent spread of nuclear weapons" which sounds more impressive anyway, if one can correctly pronounce 'nuclear.' I suppose you could say 'atomic' instead.

      In fact, I made a try at "bullet points" for the three bills co-authored by Barack that became law, which is few enough for many people to memorize:

      Also, if you can rattle off three of these, it ought to be enough to put any aggressive interviewer back on their heels.

      * Obama-Lugar Act - aimed at reducing the spread of nuclear weapons.

      * Obama-Coburn Government Transparency Act - anyone can look up for free on the internet who has been awarded federal contracts and see how much money was awarded.

      * Honest Leadership and Open Government Act of 2007 - High-powered corporate lobbyists can no longer give away free rides on their private jets to members of Congress in an attempt to buy votes.

      If I got any of these wrong, please correct me - publicly!

      You may not be able to change the world, but at least you can embarrass the guilty.
      - Jessica Mitford

      by Swampfoot on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 11:26:18 PM PST

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      •  responding (1+ / 0-)
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        so I can find your list agian...

        ~*-:¦:-jennybravo-:¦:-*~

        by jennybravo on Wed Feb 20, 2008 at 01:29:16 AM PST

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      •  that's definitely (1+ / 0-)
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        an impressive list coming from a Senator who has "no experience"... the number of bills I've seen penned by Obama is staggering. Especially during such a short tenure in the Senate.

        I think this link sums up his senate career nicely:

        http://en.wikipedia.org/...

        "In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

        by Thomas McMillan on Wed Feb 20, 2008 at 07:33:48 AM PST

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        •  Here's a description (1+ / 0-)
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          Swampfoot

          Posted by Spacecat over at TPM.  I'm lifting completely from that post.

          HILLARY VS. OBAMA LEGISLATIVE RECORDS:
          During Obama's first (8) eight years of elected service (in Illinois) he sponsored over 820 bills - 233 regarding healthcare reform, 125 on poverty and public assistance, 112 crime fighting bills, 97 economic bills, 60 human rights and anti-discrimination bills, 21 ethics reform bills, 15 gun control, 6 veterans affairs and many others. IN ADDITION, DURING HIS FIRST YEAR IN THE U.S. SENATE, HE AUTHORED 152 BILLS AND CO-SPONSORED ANOTHER 427. THESE INCLUDED:
          *The Coburn-Obama Government Transparency Act of 2006 (became law)
          *The Lugar-Obama Nuclear Non-proliferation and Conventional Weapons Threat Reduction Act, (became law)
          *The Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act, (passed by the Senate)
          *The 2007 Government Ethics Bill, (became law)
          *The Protection Against Excessive Executive Compensation Bill, (In committee)
          In all, since he entered the US Senate, Obama has written 890 bills and co-sponsored another 1,096. AN IMPRESSIVE RECORD, FOR SOMEONE WHO SUPPOSEDLY "HAS NO RECORD"

          HILLARY CLINTON, WHO HAS SERVED FOR 6 YEARS IN THE U.S. SENATE, AND CLAIMS TO KNOW HOW TO "GET THINGS DONE" HAS MANAGED TO AUTHOR AND PASS NTO LAW ONLY TWENTY (20) PIECES OF LEGISLATION, ONLY FIVE (5) OF WHICH HAVE ANY REAL SUBSTANCE:

          1. Extend period of unemployment assistance to victims of 9/11.
          1. Pay for city projects in response to 9/11
          1. Assist landmine victims in other countries.
          1. Assist family caregivers in accessing affordable respite care.
          1. Designate part of the National Forest System in Puerto Rico as protected in the wilderness preservation system.

          Apologies if this is cited below but I don't have time right now to read all 500 posts and am not even sure where in the  thread  to place this so it gets the most eyes.

  •  We need to REC this up so that others (5+ / 0-)

    can read it and link it and know it. WE will need it. One thing Obama is good at is acknowledging missteps and fixing them. Lets follow his lead!

    Proud to be a hopeless hopemonger:)

    by Seattlite on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 08:26:19 PM PST

  •  Yes! (2+ / 0-)
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    Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes!!

    They just look like total idiots.

    the only consolation is that it was ten-something at night on a cable news show, so . . .

    but they still looks bush-stupid!

  •  Yes, this is an absurdity... (9+ / 0-)

    This is the second time I've seen Chris Matthews ask this question of Obama supporters, and they play right into the hands of people like Frum who was on Larry King last night. He said that this is a candidate with NO ACCOMPLISHMENTS. It appears that these people speaking on behalf of Obama are like deer caught in headlights. It's totally embarassing.

    •  Ya want my opinion (2+ / 0-)
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      I've come to the conclusion that our best bet this fall is Obama and am actively now supporting him. I came to that conclusion not because of anything he has done in the Senate, but because of what he is doing now.

      I don't think Tweety's attack on that poor state sen. made anyone but Tweety look bad. People aren't voting for Obama based on his Senatorial accomplishments, that's a fight he can't win with McCain or Hillary based on time served alone. They are voting for him because he is inspiring them, moving them to the future.

      I'm supporting him because he's bringing new people to the Democratic Party and he will expand our advantage in Congress. I think he will make a great President.

      We are so inside baseball here. Talk to people out in the actual world, they like Obama and don't hang on every little sway of the campaign wars like we do.

      Obama needs to stay on his message of "Yes we can" not "Here's what I did". That message is killing the Clinton campaign.

      Pretty Bird Woman House PO Box 596 McLaughlin SD 57642 http://www.prettybirdwomanhouse.blogspot.com/

      by high uintas on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 09:00:51 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

  •  great diary (2+ / 0-)
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    Glad I wasn't tuned in, but it sounds like a disaster.

  •  Favorite quote from the piece you linked (7+ / 0-)

    It was while I was reading about this issue that I first thought: gosh, Barack Obama seems to turn up whenever I am reading about some insanely wonky yet important issue.

    He really is a wonk. He just hides it well. When he started his campaign in Iowa, people told him to drop the specifics and speak from the heart. Good advice, apparently. But it doesn't mean he doesn't HAVE specifics or can't talk about them!

  •  Stephanie Tubbs Jones (2+ / 0-)
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    was the Congresswoman from Ohio who was on MSNBC as a Clinton surrogate when Tweety carved-up that state legislator from Texas.

  •  the link is good but (4+ / 0-)
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    Swampfoot, texasmom, radarlady, CWalter

    we need to boil this down to bullet points that we can carry on wallet sized cards in case we are at a rally and get a microphone shoved in our faces.

    Politics is like driving. To go backward, put it in R. To go forward, put it in D.
    give NOW to Populista's OBAMATHON!

    by TrueBlueMajority on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 08:32:14 PM PST

  •  msnbc- what the hell happened? (5+ / 0-)
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    mrblifil, vcmvo2, Hedwig, Neon Mama, Coach Jay

    They have been crap all season- this was an unfair attack, but you Obama's supporters should expect to see this sort of thing more often... it won't be just MSNBC after tonight.

    Give me a f'ing banana - Eddie Izzard

    by linc on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 08:32:40 PM PST

  •  I don't think that State Senator (5+ / 0-)

    could have looked any worse. Matthews pulled his punk card and all the MSNBC staff were laughingly audibly off-set.

    •  In my opinion (0+ / 0-)

      that's what makes the whole thing so disgusting.  It is just "gotcha" b.s., meant entirely to embarrass this guy (who admittedly opened himself up to being embarrassed).  

      The fact that a surrogate can't instantly name legislative accomplishments off the top of his head while being badgered relentlessly does not in any way prove that Obama is a lightweight in the legislative arena.

      This was just a low brow way for Matthews to humiliate the guy, and they were all just eating it up like he'd just single handedly exposed Obama as a fraud, which is patently absurd.

      I was disgusted, personally.  Anyone can find the accomplishments of Obama if you want, and Matthews knows they exist, he just wanted to look tough.  

      He's a complete jackass.

      You snooze you lose, well I have snost and lost, I'm pushing thru, I'll disregard the cost...

      by Sean in Motion on Wed Feb 20, 2008 at 09:23:23 AM PST

      [ Parent ]

      •  Very late response, not sure if you'll get this (0+ / 0-)

        but I think the point made by Matthews' question and the guy's inadequate response is that Obama has support, passionate support, from many people for reasons other than legislative accomplishment.

  •  Ethics Reform & Health Care for Kids... (2+ / 0-)
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    are among Obama's legislative accomplishments.  I enjoyed hearing tonight about Obama's specific plan for tax relief for low income seniors.  Read Obama's book if you are really interested in specifics.  

    Ain't no time to hate.

    by howardpark on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 08:34:01 PM PST

    •  The facts straight from the Senate Record (5+ / 0-)

      Now, I would post those of Obama's, but the list is too substantive, so I'll mainly categorize. During the first (8) eight years of his elected service he sponsored over 820 bills.

      233 regarding healthcare reform,
      125 on poverty and public assistance,
      112 crime fighting bills,
      97 economic bills,
      60 human rights and anti-discrimination bills,
      21 ethics reform bills,
      15 gun control,
      6 veterans affairs and many others.

      His first year in the U.S. Senate, he authored 152 bills and co-sponsored another 427. These included:
      **the Coburn-Obama Government Transparen cy Act of 2006 (became law),
      **The Lugar-Obama Nuclear Non-proliferation and Conventional Weapons Threat Reduction Act,(became law),
      **The Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act, passed the Senate,
      **The 2007 Government Ethics Bill,(became law),
      **The Protection Against Excessive Executive Compensation Bill,(In committee),

  •  So true that was an embarassement. An (3+ / 0-)

    elected official can't name one Obama accomplishement.

    ARG is a team of blindfolded monkeys on crack throwing feces at a number chart.Looks like the monkeys hit Clinton's numbers today. MB

    by Jr1886 on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 08:34:15 PM PST

  •  Please donate and help me reach my goal (0+ / 0-)

    ARG is a team of blindfolded monkeys on crack throwing feces at a number chart.Looks like the monkeys hit Clinton's numbers today. MB

    by Jr1886 on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 08:34:40 PM PST

  •  What bothers me is Tweety scoring (9+ / 0-)

    points for how tough he is while creating a meme for Obama's enemies. Prick.

    •  Only now (2+ / 0-)
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      WriterRoss, Neon Mama

      Obama's accomplishments will get the attention they deserve - this will be on MSNBC tomorrow and there is a long list of Obama-sponsored legislation.  If the guy couldn't remember specific bills, he could easily have mentioned that Obama did show up to vote on the FISA bill.

    •  SOOOOO agree (0+ / 0-)

      But that guy didn't belong on TV. He was not ready for primetime and should not be a media surrogate. Hell, I could have done a better job and believe me, that is not saying much!

      Tout va bien dans les meilleurs des mondes

      by kat68 on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 09:53:53 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

  •  Obama WILL BE the nominee...and the (4+ / 0-)

    Experience meme will be defining in this election against McCain. Lets get Obama's accomplishments out now before this shitpile gets any bigger.

    /shovel ready.

    ~Blue: the pale kind (often referred to as ice) with a touch of seafoam~

    by CWalter on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 08:37:10 PM PST

  •  Please list Lincoln's legislative accomplishments (10+ / 0-)

    prior to becoming president.

    Go ahead and research it - I'll wait.

    "When I was an alien, cultures weren't opinions" ~ Kurt Cobain, Territorial Pissings

    by Subterranean on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 08:38:13 PM PST

  •  Another nice piece (newer) by hilzoy is here (2+ / 0-)
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    Link.

    That link is very useful but somewhat out of date.

  •  NOTICE TO NOLALILY. CAPS LOCK IS 4 PAULTARDS (7+ / 0-)

    ONLY. IF YOU ARE NOT SUPPORTING DR. CONGRESSMAN RON PAUL REFRAIN FROM ALL CAPS DIARY TITLES. THANK YOU AND GOOD NIGHT.

    I can get a straight job, I've done it before. I never minded working hard, It's who I'm working for.-Ms. Gillian Welch

    by LeftCoastBreakdown on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 08:38:41 PM PST

  •  Notice to SURROGATES. n/t (2+ / 0-)
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  •  Everyone needs to mark (5+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
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    this diary as one of their favorites.  Looking over your comments, there's a treasure trove of Obama legislative accomplishments - a regular reference diary.

    Hey, that Time Magazine article is really good.  Thanks emptywheel.  

    I got tased in *The Great Markos Candidate Meltdown Cranky Pants Sting of Ought 7*

    by nolalily on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 08:39:40 PM PST

  •  Even More Accomplishments (18+ / 0-)

    Thanks for linking to my 2006 post. There's a more current list here. I also compiled a list of every substantive piece of legislation that Obama and Clinton sponsored during the time that they were both in the Senate: it's here, here, and here.

    Fun fact: if you don't count things like bills naming Post Offices, Clinton and Obama sponsored a total of one (1) bill that became law during the 109th and 110th Congresses. It was Obama's, on the Congo. (A lot of both Senators' work came in the form of co-sponsored legislation and amendments.)

    For my money, Obama has more substantive accomplishments. However, the reason I put the list together is so that people can judge for themselves.

  •  good job, nola (1+ / 0-)
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    studying right now.

    "The Meek Will Inherit The Earth" -8.13/-7.03

    by donailin on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 08:39:50 PM PST

  •  This stuff is amazing... I like him even more. (4+ / 0-)

    Seriously I had no idea about some of this legislation. There's some seriously brilliant stuff on that link, and it's from 2006! Why isn't there a summary of this stuff at his website?

    He needs to have a "People get bored with political details... it's boring stuff, but it's the work that has to be done. Here's some of the necessary issues that I've helped address, Nonproliferation, Pandemic Flu preparedness, Keeping Lead Paint from our kids, and keeping thier parents personal information from being sold...

    He's got substance, he's got depth, he can't let Clinton, or McCain frame him as lacking substance.

    Support Rules: Don't count my vote! (FL voter)

    by gregonthe28th on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 08:40:22 PM PST

  •  That fool's name is Kirk Watson (4+ / 0-)
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    who's a Texas state senator. No wonder Rove, DeLay & Co. have been running the clock on Texas Dems. In any case, his inability to answer the question does not mean that Obama has no meaningful accomplishment, but rather that this guy wasn't up on his candidate, which is moronic. Even more troubling is that the Obama campaign would allow someone so ignorant about Obama to go on TV as a surrogate. I'm almost tempted to suspect that Clinton's people put him there (like that team they used to put up against the Harlem Globetrotters, as foils).

    Just kidding about that last part.

    I think...

    ;-)

    "No matter what people say, what people think, if you do what you think is right, you're serving your country." - Senator Jay Rockefeller (D-WV)

    by kovie on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 08:40:23 PM PST

    •  Also former mayor of Austin (n/t) (2+ / 0-)
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      •  See my comment below (3+ / 0-)
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        in which I flushed out who he is. Yeah, for such a high-level surrogate, he's a fool for going on TV not knowing a thing about Obama's record. Makes him and the Obama campaign look foolish and amateurish. Which, of course, they are for allowing this to happen. This is a rookie-level mistake that cannot be allowed to happen again.

        Voters instinctively know that to deserve to be president, you have to act like it. I.e. cover all bases, be overprepared, and show only strength, not weakness. He's got to start running his campaign at the strategic and tactical level like a pro.

        "No matter what people say, what people think, if you do what you think is right, you're serving your country." - Senator Jay Rockefeller (D-WV)

        by kovie on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 08:51:20 PM PST

        [ Parent ]

        •  Yeah, I don't know about Watson (4+ / 0-)
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          I wasn't wild about him as mayor when I lived in Austin back in the day, and now he has some questionable contact with the toll roads running through Texas.

          He makes me nervous being a rep for Obama's campaign, because I don't know how connected to special interests and banks he is.

          Someone should vet him more before they let him become identified with the official reps for the campaign.

    •  To Be Fair (3+ / 0-)
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      (and I know nobody's going to see this) The state Sen. was invited on for a very short slot, he was expecting a sound bite opportunity, not a comprehensive review of Obamas legislative history.  Clintons surrogate was louder but no more substantive.  Now, having said this, I sure wish the guy'd been able to rattle off a few..which is all he would have been allowed to do before Tweety cut him off anyway.

      "I hear his speeches, and I think to myself this guy has the poetry of Lincoln and we could have a real realignment." Ivorybill

      by SherriG on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 11:47:33 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

    •  Liked when... (0+ / 0-)

      ...Buchanan said that it was probably his last time on TV...

      Still, they should've acted professionally and just let it go instead of Matthews not only embarrassing the guy, but then ranting on about it and even attacking his own staff by complaining about vetting interviewees. What a schmuck. At least Keith tried to joke it off, but Matthews harped on...

      "That's why they call it Hardball. HA!"

      Keith had to remind it wasn't Hardball, it was election coverage.

  •  I hope your message gets to the campaign (3+ / 0-)
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    Watching Tweety get away with this once was bad. Twice is not a win for Tweety but a loss for Team Obama. They need to get talking points and memorized.

  •  It would be nice (5+ / 0-)

    if he asked the question of Clinton supporters as well.

    One Man with Courage Makes a Majority - Andrew Jackson

    by Nick A on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 08:42:31 PM PST

  •  Kirk Watson... (4+ / 0-)

    ...may not have been the best choice to represent Barack Obama during the session with Chris Matthews, but that doesn't make Matthews right in injecting his bias into his questioning of Watson without any similarly tough questions of the Clinton representative. Matthews should be ousted from all NBC election coverage from this point forward.

    •  And it was really rude (11+ / 0-)

      to KEEP demanding an answer, and let the Congresswoman pile on as well. That was where it crossed from asking a not unreasonable question into bullying, and made Matthews look like an asshole. He didn't need to do that to make his point -- he could have gone on to something else. But no, he had to hammer it home.  

    •  Tweety has a deep-seated hatred (8+ / 0-)

      for liberal and progressive Democrats, having effectively left the party that he grew up with when it took a turn for the left in the 60's and 70's. In his mind the party abandoned working class male Democrats (i.e. "real" Democrats) in favor of urban sophisticates, tree huggers and minorities, so he became a Reagan Democrat. There are millions like him, with a deep racist and sexist subtext for their real reason for leaving the party and feeling so much animosity towards it. Tweety just revealed this side of him tonight. He's usually better at keeping this under wraps, but it comes out now and then, as it did tonight, or when he treats Hillary with such personal contempt. Or, of course, when he all but crawls up the asses of the sorts of beefy older "Aqau Velva" Republicans that he has the most creep man-crushes on (e.g. DeLay, Lott, Thompson--ech!).

      "No matter what people say, what people think, if you do what you think is right, you're serving your country." - Senator Jay Rockefeller (D-WV)

      by kovie on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 08:57:36 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

      •  You Have Said It So Well. Folks If You Learn (4+ / 0-)

        nothing else from this Chris Matthews incident, please learn this.

        Chris Matthews is a hater and you can see his hate regularly on any show he appears on.  It surrounds him whereever he goes.  He is not insightful at all.  Just hateful.

        America deserves so much more from American Broadcasters who are licensed by the Federal Government to use the American airwaves to better America.  This is not bettering America to have a hateful bigot on our airwaves daily.

        •  For some godawful reason (2+ / 0-)
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          I've been a regular Hardball viewed for years now, even though I don't like the guy or his take on politics--it's all about the horse race and who's got the biggest dick and can swing it around the hardest. Thus his misogyny, his love of Republicans, and attempts to cast Dems as girly-men or mannish women. It's so obvious that a monkey could see this. I watched him not for his idiocy, but because he has some interesting guests on sometimes, occasionally gets tough on BushCo, and I find it to be a useful peek into how the other side thinks (withouth having to watch Tucker or Fox).

          But yesterday I cancelled the setting on my DVR to record Hardball every day, and I will no longer be watching it regularly, even if it means missing out on the latest GOP lines of attack on Obama and Dems. I'm sure that I'll be hearing about them anyway, here and elsewhere, from people who can still bring themselves to endure his creepy nastiness. But I just can't do it anymore. That's 40 minutes a day that I can't spare anymore. Life's too short to waste it on such bile.

          "No matter what people say, what people think, if you do what you think is right, you're serving your country." - Senator Jay Rockefeller (D-WV)

          by kovie on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 10:20:16 PM PST

          [ Parent ]

    •  Oust Matthews from election coverage (1+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      Neon Mama

      and let Rachel Maddow or Eugene Robinson have his spot. ;) I know they have day jobs, but they're there all night anyway. More realistically, I'd love to see them just let Keith Olbermann be the only anchor of election coverage.

      I can't figure Tweety out, though, because one day he's disrespecting Hillary and the next day he's attacking Obama's record. Is this his idea of being neutral?

      Blue velvet America / Half glimpsed in the headlights between the trees / Who punctured the beauty / And invited monsters such as these - Billy Bragg

      by boomtownrat on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 09:07:09 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

      •  Absolutely. (7+ / 0-)

        Maddow is the most level headed, intelligent out there.  She and KO would elevate MSNBC to a new level.  Much classier.

        I got tased in *The Great Markos Candidate Meltdown Cranky Pants Sting of Ought 7*

        by nolalily on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 09:39:46 PM PST

        [ Parent ]

      •  I think you've got it. (1+ / 0-)
        Recommended by:
        h bridges

        The media now sees Obama as the front-runner. While they were attempting to keep the horse race going, they were attacking Clinton, when she was seen as being ahead. Now that Obama is seen that way, they'll now go after him harder.

        See the comments about Michelle Obama's comments about being proud of America? They hit that. They hit that the Obama campaign started his speech before Clinton had finished her's, meaning that he did it on purpose because he somehow knew they'd all switch to him and it was somehow rude? See the comments about the demographics and how, while Obama wouldn't lose any of his support in the General Election from the voters he is getting now, that the Clinton voters would more likely be the ones (Reagan Democrats, union members mad at immigration reform, suburban, working class, soccer moms, seniors, etc...) who would be the more likely to swing to McCain vs those who are now voting for Obama.

        This is the political reality now for the Obama campaign. The media has done it to the Clinton campaign, somehow hoping that there would be a race. Now, while they have pointed out things about Obama in the past, they're setting their sights on him full bore now. The campaign better be prepared for it.

  •  What are Hillary Clinton's accomplishments? (4+ / 0-)

    Its a fact that SCHIP was a program created by the Republicans.  

    •  Somebody Should Tell Teddy..... (1+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      dhonig

      We can argue about her accomplishments, but give credit where credit is due.

      While [Senator] Kennedy is widely viewed as the driving force behind the program, by all accounts the former first lady's pressure was crucial.

      "She wasn't a legislator, she didn't write the law, and she wasn't the president, so she didn't make the decisions," says Nick Littlefield, then a senior health adviser to Kennedy. "But we relied on her, worked with her and she was pivotal in encouraging the White House to do it."

      [...]"The children's health program wouldn't be in existence today if we didn't have Hillary pushing for it from the other end of Pennsylvania Avenue," Kennedy told The Associated Press.

      President Clinton signed the bill in August 1997.

      •  Lets see the White House papers on this. (0+ / 0-)

        After her total failure on healthcare, I honestly have no idea what she was doing in the White House.  

        The Republican Congress created SCHIP.  Thats just a fact.  I read Littlefield's comments and Ted Kennedy's comments as damning with faint praise.  Hillary Clinton had the opportunity to reform the entire healthcare system and she failed utterly.  So they throw her a bone but she really didn't make any decisions.  

  •  No kidding (7+ / 0-)

    I'm continually frustrated that Obama's surrogates are shittier on TV than I think I would be!

    I guess everyone's got their own blog now.

    by zonk on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 08:44:36 PM PST

  •  Matthews was unable to answer easier version (6+ / 0-)

    of his question though.  

    I've said this elsewhere.  He was asked to name one accomplishment of the ENTIRE SENATE in the last seven years - and couldn't name one!  This means he can't name one accomplishment of Obama, Clinton or McCain.  

    However, the Obama campaign should have addressed this immediately after the Governor Doyle incident.  How hard is it to draft talking points - looks like numerous people on this site have done it already.

  •  If you really care about electing Obama..... (7+ / 0-)

    you'd make an easy to memorize list of his accomplishments.

    With footnotes/references.

    And, for good measure, add the name(s) of colleagues (D and R) with quick quotes from them about how good he is to work with.

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    by LNK on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 08:46:37 PM PST

  •  More on Watson (8+ / 0-)

    From his web site page in which he endorses Obama:

    I’m for Obama
    February 12, 2008
    by Kirk Watson

    I am proud to support Senator Barack Obama for President of the United States.

    Senator Obama offers this nation a new beginning.  His leadership will tap our potential and give us hope.

    He will help us to reject the poison politics of the past, and he will demand the solutions that will chart our future.  Following his lead, we can shed the labels that divide us and unite for change.

    Make no mistake, this is a movement rooted in policy as much as spirit.  And in Senator Obama, we have found our leader.

    Senator Obama will seize opportunities for a strong 21st Century America.  He will create a foreign policy that strengthens and protects us.  He will advocate for universal health care that works and makes sense.  He will invest in the purest form of economic development – our teachers, schools and universities.  And he will support clean power and technologies that will save our planet and our economy in this new century.

    At this unique moment in our history, Senator Obama is focused on possibilities, not politics.  He offers solutions that will unify our country and lead us into the future.

    Perhaps most of all, he knows that hope matters.

    Senator Obama offers hope – for peace, for security, for unity, for real solutions that address real needs, and for a nation that honors and fulfills the value of every one of us.

    That hope is real, and it is important.  It matters and has always mattered, but it has never mattered more than it does now.

    So please join me, and millions more like me, in supporting Barack Obama on March 4.

    And his wiki entry:

    Political life

    In 1991 Watson was appointed by Texas Governor Ann Richards to serve as Chair of the Texas Air Control Board, the state agency that was charged with addressing air quality in Texas.

    Watson was active in Democratic party politics throughout the 1990s including service as Chairman of the Travis County Democratic Party.

    In 1997 Watson was elected mayor of Austin, a position which he held until 2001 when he stepped down to run unsuccessfully for Texas attorney general.

    Watson was elected Senator for the Texas Senate, District 14 in November 2006, succeeding Sen. Gonzalo Barrientos. Watson was unopposed in the March 2005 Democratic Primary when Sen. Barrientos chose not to run for reelection.

    Watson currently serves on many committees including the Capital Area Metropolitan Planning Organization (CAMPO), of which he is board Chairman.[1]

    The July 2007 Texas Monthly magazine recognized Sen. Watson as "rookie of the year" for the 2007 session of the Texas Legislature.

    Former mayor of Austin, which I understand is the most progressive-friendly city in Texas. An obvious surrogate for the Obama campaign to persue, but he's clearly got to be briefed on Obama's record if he wants to promote him until the primary, and the campaign has to do a much better job of doing this ASAP. This sort of mistake is "Bush league". (Heh.)

    "No matter what people say, what people think, if you do what you think is right, you're serving your country." - Senator Jay Rockefeller (D-WV)

    by kovie on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 08:47:39 PM PST

  •  Thank you. (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Settembrini, boomtownrat

    I think the talking point o' the last several weeks from the other camp(s) is that whole "all hat, no cattle" thing. I'm an avid reader and commenter on The Swamp on the Trib site, and I've mentioned this before, but it seems that people are being sent there by some group (?) to all say a variation of the same talking point.

    There's the constant mention that they asked someone what Obama has done, and they couldn't tell them. I'm pretty sure if you asked those same (possibly real) people what Hillary has done, they would be equally as silent, but that doesn't matter.

    ...and speaking of things that don't matter, welcome to our little club, WISCONSIN!

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    by Annie Maim on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 08:48:03 PM PST

  •  thanks for bringing this up (3+ / 0-)
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    texasmom, lizah, boomtownrat

    it was brutal to see. I felt terrible for Obama, but even worse for that poor guy.

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    by steelman on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 08:48:59 PM PST

  •  Yeah (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    texasmom, Settembrini

    I was pissed not only at Tweety for entering attack-dog mode, but also at the Texan guy for not being prepared. Does this make only the Texan guy look bad, or does it also make Barack look bad? My husband (who's unenthusiastic about the candidates overall but thinks Barack is the least unappealing... I'm working on him) thinks it only reflects on the Texan guy.

    Thank you very much for this diary, and for the link.

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    by boomtownrat on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 08:49:20 PM PST

  •  yeah, i'm an obama supporter (4+ / 0-)

    but I saw that interview and he looked like a 3rd grader who was trying to give an oral report on a book he didn't read.  they need to keep that guy away from the tv cameras from now on.

  •  Okay here's my knowledge of his record (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    javelina, latinadem

    Feel free to add to it:

    + co-sponsored legislation to expand the cooperative threat reduction concept to conventional weapons

    + co-sponsored legislation to promote public accountability in the allocation and consumption of federal funds.

    * sponsored legislation to restrict lobbying and election fraud

    That's off the top of my head.

    "The Revolution Won't Be Microwaved."

    by Glinda on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 08:52:46 PM PST

    •  And this Does Not Even Count the Work he did on (1+ / 0-)
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      Glinda

      the streets as a social organizer.

      Now, I would post those of Obama's, but the list is too substantive, so I'll mainly categorize. During the first (8) eight years of his elected service he sponsored over 820 bills.

      233 regarding healthcare reform,
      125 on poverty and public assistance,
      112 crime fighting bills,
      97 economic bills,
      60 human rights and anti-discrimination bills,
      21 ethics reform bills,
      15 gun control,
      6 veterans affairs and many others.

      His first year in the U.S. Senate, he authored 152 bills and co-sponsored another 427. These included:
      **the Coburn-Obama Government Transparen cy Act of 2006 (became law),
      **The Lugar-Obama Nuclear Non-proliferation and Conventional Weapons Threat Reduction Act,(became law),
      **The Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act, passed the Senate,
      **The 2007 Government Ethics Bill,(became law),
      **The Protection Against Excessive Executive Compensation Bill,(In committee)

    •  Damn it! All the links went bye-bye (1+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      javelina

      What the hell did I do?  I was having a boatful of trouble with the links screwing up the format and Pfffft!

      Damn! I have to go to bed now. Can someone else provide links?

      You know Obama's campaign has everything to do with overhauling the culture of Washington where bloated old guys get to author legislation that some aide researched and the fresh minds have to play "doting protege" to the barely awake and non-responsive-to-the-electorate "elder snoresmen" of whatever party they belong to. But Obama and Clinton have experienced this hierarchical hazing.

      And McCain is a part of it.

      "The Revolution Won't Be Microwaved."

      by Glinda on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 09:02:26 PM PST

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  •  Hey Tweety!!! (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    WriterRoss, getinthek

    He voted against the war... In my book.. that's a "Stand Up" Legislative Accomplishment.

    •  Tweety knows (0+ / 0-)

      Barack's accomplishments.  The point he's trying to make is that there are supporters who are behind Barack for emotional rather than substantive reasons.  I reject that, because I think the vast majority of people are behind him for the right reasons, as the comments on this thread show.  But guys like this state senator and Sen. Doyle aren't helping.  I find it absolutely stunning that the governor of Wisconsin (Doyle couldn't name anything on Harball yesterday) and a former mayor of Austin wouldn't know one of Barack's legislative accomplishments.

      •  Ockham's razor explanation (0+ / 0-)

        Doyle et al can't name any legislative accomplishments because there aren't any. Hope that helps.

        Obama's spokespeople would do better to note that during his term any legislation he proposed has faced a Republican majority half the time, and and a presidential veto 100% of the time. At least that would point out mitigating factors.

        •  That doesn't help (0+ / 0-)

          Particularly because it's a lie.  See the many links throughout this thread.  Coburn-Obama, Lugar-Obama, government ethics, not to mention countless legislative accomplishments in Illinois, all became law.  So if you want to apply Okham's razor, the true answer is that these guests were simply unprepared to answer the question.

          •  The accomplishments I've seen here (0+ / 0-)

            ...are of bills that require many paragraphs to explain and moreover have not become law.

            And looking at how some of his bills fared in rewrites to accede to Republican positions--for example the nuclear leak bill--is not pretty.

            One accomplishment was bringing a $1.8 billion boondoggle to Illinois (the "FutureGen" project) in an energy bill that was ultimately stripped of any environmental teeth, leaving only pork. Environmentalists strongly opposed it. Hillary voted AGAINST it.

            Even so, the DOE pulled out of the FutureGen project last month:

            On January 29, 2008, the DOE announced that it would pull its funding for the project, mostly due to higher than expected costs. The move is likely to delay the project as other members seek the additional funds that the DOE was to provide. Local and state officials in Illinois, including Governor Rod Blagojevich expressed frustration at the move, especially in light of the money and resources that the state had spent to attract the project. Blagojevich issued a statement saying that Energy Secretary Samuel Bodman "deceived the people of East Central Illinois who spent time and resources competing for the project."

            I guess that's what one gets for compromising with Bush.

    •  He wasn't a Senator in 2002 (0+ / 0-)

      so how could have voted against war?

  •  What legislation by Obama has actually passed? (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    amberglow, sephius1

    I know about health care for kids, ethics reform, nuclear proliferation, and racial profiling.

    I think we should expand these lists to include his role in the IL state senate, when he was even more of a progressive than he is today.

    •  Sorry to keep Reposting, But people Keep Asking (12+ / 0-)

      Now, I would post those of Obama's legislation in Illinois, but the list is too substantive, so I'll mainly categorize. During the first (8) eight years of his elected service he sponsored over 820 bills.

      233 regarding healthcare reform,
      125 on poverty and public assistance,
      112 crime fighting bills,
      97 economic bills,
      60 human rights and anti-discrimination bills,
      21 ethics reform bills,
      15 gun control,
      6 veterans affairs and many others.

      His first year in the U.S. Senate, he authored 152 bills and co-sponsored another 427. These included:
      **the Coburn-Obama Government Transparen cy Act of 2006 (became law),
      **The Lugar-Obama Nuclear Non-proliferation and Conventional Weapons Threat Reduction Act,(became law),
      **The Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act, passed the Senate,
      **The 2007 Government Ethics Bill,(became law),
      **The Protection Against Excessive Executive Compensation Bill,(In committee),

    •  For a list of legislation you (1+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      Albatross

      could try GovTrack or Thomas at Library of Congress.  

      Senator Clinton on the Thomas site.

      107th Congress 2001-2002: sponsored 161 bills co-sponsored 495
      108th Congress 2003-2004: sponsored 138 bills co-sponsored 688
      109th Congress 2005-2006: sponsored 177 bills co-sponsored 720
      110th Congress 2007 -: sponsored 150 bills co-sponsored 477

      Senator Obama on the Thomas site:

      109th Congress 2005-2006: sponsored 152; co-sponsored 427
      110th Congress 2007 -: sponsored 113; co-sponsored 375

      And isn't the Coburn-Obama Government Transparency Act of 2006 actually the Coburn-Obama-Carper-McCain Federal Funding Accountability and Transparency Act (S. 2590) ?

  •  Notice to Clinton campaign: You sound desperate (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    TheShovelJockey, boomtownrat

    and foolish.  

    You need Tweety to carry your water for you now?

    So this is how liberty dies -- with thunderous applause.

    by MJB on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 08:56:32 PM PST

  •  Tweety and his 'gotcha' moments need (6+ / 0-)

    to go.  KO tried to make him eat humble pie and left him sputtering at the end of the show as KO signed off.  Too bad he's not sputtering right off the show, permanently.

    On the other hand, I couldn't believe that idiot on for Obama who couldn't cite one accomplishment of Obama's as a legislator?  I mean really.  He himself is a politician and you'd think he'd understand how important it is to be able rap off those talking points.  I think it will reflect badly on him, not Obama, because people will understand it was this guy who just didn't know, not that Obama hasn't accomplished anything.  At least I hope so.

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    by Sally in SF on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 08:58:48 PM PST

  •  Nolalily, thanks. Why don't we all... (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    texasmom, boomtownrat

    send it to Tweety's mailbox at MSNBC?

    •  ***k Tweety, don't give him any more ideas (1+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      WriterRoss

      .... you know most of us could have torn him to little shreds easily on that question,  it was a deliberate act of malice because he knew in advance this guy wouldn't be able to answer it so it made him stupid.

      You wanna play "hardball?", Tweety?   You half a$$ed twit, how many more people will Bush torture to death for oil while people in this country go sick and hungry, you stupid shill ?

      •  Frankly, I think we should (0+ / 0-)

        by-pass Tweety in all things and hit up either Abrams (who is worse than Tweety but runs the station) or Olbermann.

        I got tased in *The Great Markos Candidate Meltdown Cranky Pants Sting of Ought 7*

        by nolalily on Wed Feb 20, 2008 at 09:23:42 AM PST

        [ Parent ]

  •  Thanks (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    henna218, sephius1

    Another handy weapon in the fight for change!

  •  He should have had an answer (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    TheShovelJockey, boomtownrat

    I am sure the Barack campaign isa preparing talking points for their surrogates as we speak.

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    ~Franklin D. Roosevelt

    by Grant Caesar Peters on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 08:59:41 PM PST

  •  Question (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Samwoman, sephius1

    Tweety is a journalist.  Why doesn't he do his own research and tell his viewers what Obama has accomplished.

  •  He was a State Senator (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    WriterRoss

    The Obama supporter was a Texas State Senator.  I think his first name was Steve.

    You are absolutely right though about surrogates knowing about his policies.  He is an awesome speaker and a great organizer.  But the most impressive thing about Barack Obama is that he is a great legislator and a policy wonk.

    He has tackled enormous problems from crime and the death penalty to rural improvement (especially wiring rural communities for the internet).  In Illinois, he led on the issues of reforming the death penalty, providing healthcare and passing the strongest ethics package in Illinois history (this in the state with the Daley machine).  And he did this and much more in 8 years (six of which under a republican majority in the state senate).

    In the U.S. Senate, Obama has passed landmark ethics reform (again) and fought to secure loose nuclear, biological, chemical and coventional weapons.  Moreover, it was his bill that was the vehicle for ending the Iraq War.  He did this and much more while half his time was under a Republican majority.  He was also establishing the most powerful political movement since at least the "Moral Majority" and possibly the Civil Rights movement.

  •  Thanks for the link (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    naltikriti, Quicksilver2723

    His websiteis a good place to start, under the "issues" banner. At the end of each topic, there's an "accomplishments" section.

    tragically un-hip

    -5.88, -6.82

    by Debby on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 09:04:27 PM PST

  •  Kirk Watson (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    ankey

    He just endorsed Obama a week ago.  The MSNBC guys didn't mention that at all.  He mainly decided to endorse Obama because most of his constituents (Travis County) are Obama supporters.

    Austin loves Obama!

    by DrJK on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 09:05:02 PM PST

  •  Thank you! I've posted this same (0+ / 0-)

    sentiment on the obama blog several times.

  •  Brilliant idea (2+ / 0-)
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    mrblifil, Iwanna B French

    That guy was a travesty. But it WAS a fair question for Tweety to ask (though, yes, he should have asked of both reps). That this very question had been asked before, and they still didn't have an answer -- not a bad answer, but NO answer at all -- is just unconscionable.

    This is for real now. Hill is history this run. Get it together, Barack (and David Axelrod)!

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    by gypsy on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 09:06:31 PM PST

  •  This *will* be a GOP attack. (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    amberglow, getinthek
    Every Obama surrogate and supporter needs to be ready with a list of accomplishments to rattle off, and a comeback - McCain's record of bad legislation in support of the Bush agenda.
  •  Tweety Got A Call Directly From Bill Clinton (0+ / 1-)
    Recommended by:
    Hidden by:
    vcmvo2

    telling him he better start asking these gotcha questions of Obama supporters or else Bill would make Tweety's life real hard.  Even harder than Tweety's dick gets when he talks about George Bush wearing a codpiece.

  •  A more up-to-date record of their legislation... (3+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    WriterRoss, myrealname, Neon Mama

    Someone posted a diary earlier today that I found fascinating.  I can't remember who it was and I forgot to bookmark it, so if someone can respond with a link that would be great (my queries came up empty).

    Anyway, the diary pointed to http://www.govtrack.us. On the "Legislators" tab/page, you can query legislation the person has been involved with.  

    For Barack (since 2005):

    Statistics: Barack Obama has sponsored 129 bills since Jan 4, 2005, of which 120 haven't made it out of committee (Poor) and 1 were successfully enacted (Average, relative to peers). Obama has co-sponsored 545 bills during the same time period (Average, relative to peers).

    That's about 43 sponsored bills and 182 co-sponsored bills per year. The full list of his 63 bills sponsored in 2007 can be found here.

    For Hillary (since 2001):

    Statistics: Hillary Clinton has sponsored 354 bills since Jan 22, 2001, of which 307 haven't made it out of committee (Extremely Poor) and 2 were successfully enacted (Average, relative to peers). Clinton has co-sponsored 1723 bills during the same time period (Average, relative to peers).

    That's about 51 sponsored bills and 246 co-sponsored bills per year. The full list of her 104 sponsored bills for 2007 can be found here.

    Given the republican control/blocking ability of the Senate most of these years, the lack of success getting sponsored bills passed by either candidate is not surprising.

    But the argument that Hillary has so much more experience really falls flat.

    And for comparison, here's McCain's (the stats begin in 1997, so he has more years to pile up his stats)...

    Statistics: John McCain has sponsored 403 bills since Jan 21, 1997, of which 263 haven't made it out of committee (Extremely Poor) and 12 were successfully enacted (Very Good, relative to peers). McCain has co-sponsored 873 bills during the same time period (Average, relative to peers).

    That gives him 40 sponsored bills and only 87 co-sponsored bills per year.

    "Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it." - Mark Twain

    by cyberKosFan on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 09:18:57 PM PST

  •  Since When Has Matthews Cared About Substance? (6+ / 0-)

    Matthews whole gig is to focus on some sensational non item on his shows.  Afterall he's just a pundit and has no journalistic credentials.  He even said how important it was to know this information and it is a problem if you don't.

    He doesn't even know.

    As Stephanie Miller told Matthews on his show he is just a right wing tool.  Matthews got all indignant and has not allowed Miller back on his show since. Tweety most certainly a is right wing tool of the worst kind who should only be allowed on the Fox News Network and nowhere else.

  •  Just because the Representative (5+ / 0-)

    couldn't tick off Barack Obama's accomplishments, doesn't mean they don't exit.  The Clinton representative was acting very arrogant.  Did she tick off all of Clinton's legislative accomplishments??  Or just talk about her "35" years experience.  

    I thought it was funny when Keith Olbermann told Tweety that it was the Elections Returns not "Hardball".

    The Obama team can't have this happen again.  Their reps need to briefed before going on TV.  Also, the rep needs to know who they will be appearing with.  As previously mentioned by another commenter, I'm glad this happened now.  The Obama campaign needs to nail this down immediately.

    Bottom line, the rep should have been able to answer the question.  It's all on www.barackobama.com

    Thanks for the link to legislative accomplishments.

  •  Why Is America Allowing MSNBC To (4+ / 0-)

    put Chris Matthews on their station if he doesn't know substance about our American government legislative activities?  He wasn't able to answer Keith Olberman's question about congressional results.  This is important to know.  Matthews said he doesn't need to know because he is not running for President.  What he should have said is that he is just an infotainment performer and nothing more.  

  •  How About These (3+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    sundancekid11, naltikriti, tonyfv

    found here

    During the first - 8 - eight years of his elected service he sponsored over 820 bills. He introduced

    233 regarding healthcare reform,

    125 on poverty and public assistance,

    112 crime fighting bills,

    97 economic bills,

    60 human rights and anti-discrimination bills,

    21 ethics reform bills,

    15 gun control,

    6 veterans affairs and many others.

    His first year in the U.S. Senate, he authored 152 bills and co-sponsored another 427. These inculded **the Coburn-Obama Government Transparency Act of 2006 - became law, **The Lugar-Obama Nuclear Non-proliferation and Conventional Weapons Threat Reduction Act, - became law, **The Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act, passed the Senate, **The 2007 Government Ethics Bill, - became law, **The Protection Against Excessive Executive Compensation Bill, In committee, and many more.

    In all, since entering the U.S. Senate, Senator Obama has written 890 bills and co-sponsored another 1096.

    Come on Clinton suppoters, your turn.

  •  THANK YOU!!! (0+ / 0-)

    OH dear gawd I was screaming at the TV when that happened!!! What a MORON! Every dodge of the question made me wince because you knew it was just ammunition for Tweety to become more shrill and demanding for an answer. ARGH!

  •  USAspending.gov (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    kat68

    Not to push my own diary, but I think this is a bit wonky but very important accomplishment:

    http://www.dailykos.com/...

  •  I just saw this for 1st time, repeat (1+ / 0-)
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    amberglow

    omg how embarrassing.  What he needs to say, needed to say, is that he does not know because he is not prepared.  Oh man.

    "Our time has come, our movement is real, and change is coming to America."

    by lizah on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 09:56:27 PM PST

  •  Mokes? (0+ / 0-)

    Aloha--
    OK, you're cracking me up; did not expect to see mokes in a DKos diary.

  •  Kirk Watson (0+ / 0-)

    Not the guy you want on TV. Ugh.

    --
    "Who do you have to blow to get a president impeached around here?"

    by chris on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 09:57:20 PM PST

  •  i think this must be the third time (0+ / 0-)

    i just saw it for the first time....man, that was really bad...good diary to recommend....

  •  it was Kirk Watson (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    WriterRoss

    I just saw the rerun and caught the TX state legislator's name. Has a website where you can contact him: kirkwatson.com.
    Sorry if someone already posted this information, but kudos to you if so.

  •  Chris Matthews Right Wing Tricks Are Nothing New. (5+ / 0-)

    But Americans just sit back and let him and MSNBC go on and on.

    http://mediamatters.org/...

  •  This was awful... (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    WriterRoss

    ...but my favorite part was when the Hillary surrogate said, "She has legislation all over the world!"  Really?  I wasn't aware New York state senators had that kind of legislative jurisdiction!

  •  Here's the video. (3+ / 0-)
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    westcott, Andrew40, Quicksilver2723

    It's painful to watch.

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    by Brandon Friedman on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 10:20:57 PM PST

    •  Too Bad The Video Doesn't Show Keith (4+ / 0-)
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      asking Tweety to name one thing the US Congress has accomplished.  Tweety said he is not running for President, not representing any candidate, and doesn't need to know.  Then Tweety says "it's Hardball".  Keith points out to Tweety that this is not Tweety's Hardball show it is the election returns show.

    •  I don't watch Twitty but.. (0+ / 0-)

      ...I did watch part of this video, enough to suspect that Watson looks more like a Bush tool than a supporter of EITHER of our candidates.  

      I'm Texan.  Color me cynical because the differences between some Democrats and Republicans here are often fuzzy.

      It is easier to fight for one's principles than to live up to them. Alfred Adler

      by Quicksilver2723 on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 11:16:23 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

    •  Response (0+ / 0-)

      "but what I know is they come in waves, and they somehow appear magically wherever the next primary or caucus is" Barack Obama on Smear E-Mails

      by WeBetterWinThisTime on Wed Feb 20, 2008 at 12:06:17 AM PST

      [ Parent ]

  •  Something that pisses me off... (2+ / 0-)
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    I watch the news in order to get informed.  This supporter of Obama is on, is not prepared and embarrassed himself.  He felt humiliated quite clearly.

    But is it too much for me to expect that one of the journalists might say, Obama has done x y and z?  I mean, why does a question need to be asked?  Why can't journalists report on it?

    "Our time has come, our movement is real, and change is coming to America."

    by lizah on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 10:21:03 PM PST

  •  Kirk Watson, State Senator (TX) (3+ / 0-)
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    C'mon, the poor guy was being played by tweety.

    He is a democrat from Texas. The only mistake was to let him represent Obama (in theory) on TV. then again, it was a childish game played by MSNBC and Olbermann should have stopped it.

  •  Tweety is a douchebag (6+ / 0-)

    To bring some state senator on and expect him to be able to recite a bullet-point list of talking points about legislation Obama has been involved with is bad enough.  But to sit there and harass the guy like he's trying to be evasive is horseshit.  And then he gives a pass to the HRC supporter.  Incredible.

    Chris Matthews has no business being on television at any level - he adds nothing of any value to the political discourse he participates in, talks over others all the time, constantly makes sexist remarks, and he's as aggravating as hell.  As far as the Tim Russert "gotcha" bullshit is concerned, he's far from being the only person to do that, but taken with everything else about him, I fail to see what MSNBC gains by keeping him employed.  If it weren't for Tweety, who knows how much higher Olbermann's ratings might be?  It's like MSNBC wants to be the lowest rated news network or something.

    Barack Obama for President "We are the ones we've been waiting for. We are the change that we seek."

    by Big Tex on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 10:34:53 PM PST

  •  Good diary for everyone else, too (0+ / 0-)

    I'm a late-primary voter, and this has given me stuff to mull over as someone who remains undecided given the tepid record of both candidates on organized labor.

    "Are we still, and if so on what grounds, Galilean and Cartesian?" Alain Badiou, Manifesto for Philosophy

    by Niky Ring on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 10:39:48 PM PST

  •  It was an unfair, set up question, but... (5+ / 0-)

    Even Tubbs-Jones couldn't answer the question directly w/regards to Clinton. And Keith Olbermann slammed Mathews for it too immediately after. That said, that guy should have been WAY better prepared.

    •  Just about any kossak (0+ / 0-)

      in the world would have been better prepared than that guy.  Still, I'm guessing he didn't realize he was going to get a bat to the knees when he came on the air.  

      Tweety's a freak.  He's funny sometimes and passionate.  But he should be doing this stuff on Comedy Central like Stewart and Colbert.  

  •  What was his name? (0+ / 0-)

    Tonight it was a Congressman from Texas.  Sorry, wasn't paying attention to his name.

    Who was that congressman?  What?  Tell me his name?  You have to tell me his name...no... don't go on with this diary..Stop!  What was the congressman's name?  This is a problem if you don't know his name.  Because that way I can reinforce a stereotype about Barack Obama that Hillary's campaign has been pushing.  

  •  No need to memorize (1+ / 0-)
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    Matthews is a hypocrite who likes to project his own ignorance of Obama's superior legislative record onto others. For me it is enough to say that Obama ewas opposing the invasion of Iraq when Matthews was carrying water for the pre-invasion propaganda machine. Now he acts like he was opposed to the war from the beginning and that his own blindspots are the blindspots of all.

  •  Comparison of Clinton & Obama legislative records (8+ / 1-)

    From a comment on TPM Election Central:

    Senator Clinton, who has served only one full term (6yrs.), and another year campaigning, has managed to author and pass into law, (20) twenty pieces of legislation in her first six years:

    1. Establish the Kate Mullany National Historic Site.
    1. Support the goals and ideals of Better Hearing and Speech Month.
    1. Recognize the Ellis Island Medal of Honor.
    1. Name courthouse after Thurgood Marshall.
    1. Name courthouse after James L. Watson.
    1. Name post office after Jonn A. O'Shea.
    1. Designate Aug. 7, 2003, as National Purple Heart Recognition Day.
    1. Support the goals and ideals of National Purple Heart Recognition Day.
    1. Honor the life and legacy of Alexander Hamilton on the bicentennial of his death.
    1. Congratulate the Syracuse Univ. Orange Men's Lacrosse Team on winning the championship.
    1. Congratulate the Le Moyne College Dolphins Men's Lacrosse Team on winning the championship.
    1. Establish the 225th Anniversary of the American Revolution Commemorative Program.
    1. Name post office after Sergeant Riayan A. Tejeda.
    1. Honor Shirley Chisholm for her service to the nation and express condolences on her death.
    1. Honor John J. Downing, Brian Fahey, and Harry Ford, firefighters who lost their lives on duty.
    1. Extend period of unemployment assistance to victims of 9/11.
    1. Pay for city projects in response to 9/11.
    1. Assist landmine victims in other countries.
    1. Assist family caregivers in accessing affordable respite care.
    1. Designate part of the National Forest System in Puerto Rico as protected in the wilderness preservation system.

    During the first eight years of Senator Obama’s elected service he sponsored over 820 bills. He introduced:

    233 regarding healthcare reform,
    125 on poverty and public assistance,
    112 crime fighting bills,
    97 economic bills,
    60 human rights and anti-discrimination bills,
    21 ethics reform bills,
    15 gun control,
    6 veterans affairs and many others.

    His first year in the U.S. Senate, he authored 152 bills and co-sponsored another 427. These included: - the Coburn-Obama Government Transparency Act of 2006 (became law), - The Lugar-Obama Nuclear Non-proliferation and Conventional Weapons Threat Reduction Act, (became law), - The Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act, passed the Senate, - The 2007 Government Ethics Bill, (became law), - The Protection Against Excessive Executive Compensation Bill, (In committee)

    Hey Hillary: How did you go from "It takes a (whole) village" to "It takes a (solitary) President"?

    by Jim in Chicago on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 11:04:02 PM PST

    •  EXCELLENT. thanks. (0+ / 0-)

      Cynicism is a sorry form of wisdom. -Barack Obama

      by jj24 on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 11:12:57 PM PST

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    •  That is not a fair comparison. (1+ / 0-)
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      evora

      And I'm an Obama supporter.

      I have the distinction of being called a media whore by Courtney Love. -Maynard J. Keenan

      by arielle on Wed Feb 20, 2008 at 05:47:18 AM PST

      [ Parent ]

    •  HR because this has been repeatedly (0+ / 0-)

      rebutted here, and people keep posting it.  First, it compares "laws passed" to "bills sponsored."  HUGE difference. You can add your name to a bill as a sponsor even if you had nothing to do with it.  Second, it is simply a lie.  Third, it is a freakin' NEWSMAX hit piece.  I know that sort of crap is acceptable now, what with our own front pagers relying on Politico and Drudge for their material, but that does not mean it should not be hidden.

      It took about two minutes to find these:

      1. S.140 : A bill to provide for a domestic defense fund to improve the Nation's homeland defense, and for other purposes.
      1. S.211 : A bill to facilitate nationwide availability of 2-1-1 telephone service for information and referral on human services, volunteer services, and for other purposes.
      1. S.450 : A bill to amend the Help America Vote Act of 2002 to require a voter-verified paper record, to improve provisional balloting, to impose additional requirements under such Act, and for other purposes.
      1. S.841 : A bill to amend the Fair Labor Standards Act of 1938 to provide more effective remedies to victims of discrimination in the payment of wages on the basis of sex, and for other purposes.
      1. S.844 : A bill to expand access to preventive health care services that help reduce unintended pregnancy, reduce the number of abortions, and improve access to women's health care.
      1. S.968 : A bill to amend chapters 83 and 84 of title 5, United States Code, to provide that spouses of Federal public safety officers who are killed in the line of duty, may remarry and continue to receive a survivor annuity, and for other purposes.
      1. S.1028 : A bill to amend title 10, United States Code, to enhance the protection of members of the Armed Forces and their spouses from unscrupulous financial services sales practices through increased consumer education, and for other purposes.

      I guess, though, that you prefer vomiting up Newsmax lies to actual things like preventing unintended pregnancy, paper trails for ballots, and the like.  

      People like you give Obama a bad name.  Stop pimping these lies.

      If you refuse to vote for OUR PARTY'S nominee in November, the blood of a thousand back-alley abortions will be on your hands.

      by dhonig on Wed Feb 20, 2008 at 06:11:18 AM PST

      [ Parent ]

  •  I just saw that (0+ / 0-)

    boy is that guy an idiot! But you do have to hold the Obama campaign partially responsible. Obama's legislative accomplishments need to be drilled into a every potential spokesperson, even if it is just an endorser who's not really part of the campaign. That bad, bad, bad, bad. Uggghhh.

  •  Awesome (1+ / 0-)
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    At a bar tonight, someone asked me tonight the same question, and I could deliver an answer.

    Great diary.  We are going to need this.

    Thanks so much!

    truth, kindness, endurance, Obama '08

    by CupofTea on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 11:19:23 PM PST

  •  Send This To Chris Matthews (0+ / 0-)

    "but what I know is they come in waves, and they somehow appear magically wherever the next primary or caucus is" Barack Obama on Smear E-Mails

    by WeBetterWinThisTime on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 11:56:01 PM PST

  •  Man I feel (0+ / 0-)

    bad for that guy...

  •  I'm surprised at this diary (1+ / 0-)
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    ratador

    Who gives a fuck what Tweety thinks? Not the country, Democrats, or Republicans, or, if you believe the Libby trial transcripts, Tim Russert.

    No one gives a fuck what Tweety thinks. That has a nice ring to it.

  •  that was twice (1+ / 0-)
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    2 days in a row that an Obama surrogate couldn't answer this question from Matthews - Gov. Jim Doyle the day before.

    Does the Obama campaign have any say over who appears as its representative on these shows?  If they do, they need to screen way more carefully.

    I'm voting for the Democrat, because the Republican't

    by thesunshinestateisdark on Wed Feb 20, 2008 at 01:46:18 AM PST

  •  WARNING: ANYONE BEEN TO WESPAC LATELY? (1+ / 0-)
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    javelina

    The "Clarkies" there have ALL gone HRC,  but like....kool-aid style.
    Saying that McCain would make a better POTUS than Obama. That Hillary is actually "the anti-DLC choice"
    Seriously, these people have all gone Heaven's Gate. It's like i returned to an old familiar town to find out everyone has turned into zombies.
    Go check the blogs for yourself, they are living on one weird, dilutional planet.

    I'm not even crazy about Obama or Hillary, but I realize that either would make a way better president than McCain. In return, they all just blast Obama and say they'd rather vote for McCain & call Obama supporters "idiots" etc...

    I swear, if Gen Clark said the earth was flat, they all would suddenly say the earth was in fact, flat and that anyone who thinks otherwise is stupid.

    Look, there are plenty of things to critique Obama for...but to suggest that Hillary Clinton is the "anti-DLC choice, " some bastion of honest politics & unwavering progressive values... is just well, insane.
    They all say Obama is the "real DLC'r" even though, what's this?
    http://www.dlc.org
    WOW who is that on the homepage, Obama? No, it's Hillary Clinton!
    DUH!
    Wait, it must be a mirage set up by the Obama campaign!

    "The truth may be puzzling. It may not be consonant with what we desperately want to be true. But our preferences do not determine what's true." -Carl Sagan

    by astronautagogo on Wed Feb 20, 2008 at 02:28:02 AM PST

    •  Wesley Clark Is On Morning Joe Now. Changed The (0+ / 0-)

      Channel already.

      Obama '08 YES WE CAN
      "The government should be afraid of its people, not the people afraid of its government"

      by DFutureIsNow on Wed Feb 20, 2008 at 03:36:39 AM PST

      [ Parent ]

      •  Sipping Morning Joe right now...( (0+ / 0-)

        and I get the feeling Wesley Clark is kissing his spot as Hillary's VP down the tubes.

        Dear lord. Mika just asked him about being on the ticket with Hillary.

        Oh no. I'm turning into a... television pundit!

        ...Morning Mika would be much better. Joe is looking particularly preppy today.

        "George Bush Doesn't Care About People"

        by WriterRoss on Wed Feb 20, 2008 at 03:43:29 AM PST

        [ Parent ]

        •  True. Mika & Me Would Be Much Better. She (0+ / 0-)

          Has a very nice personality, thats the only reason I watch, well her and my boy David Shuster who will be back Friday.

          Go Shuster!

          Obama '08 YES WE CAN
          "The government should be afraid of its people, not the people afraid of its government"

          by DFutureIsNow on Wed Feb 20, 2008 at 03:52:39 AM PST

          [ Parent ]

          •  Yuk. Mika is awful. (0+ / 0-)

            I don't know how she has managed to bamboozle so many of the people on this board.

            She routinely disses all Democrats in favor of Republicans, and tries to do mini-Tweety/Timmeh gotcha moments, and she's just an amateur at it.

            I guess you never noticed either how she stares up at Joe Scarborough like a lovesick teenager, and takes every opportunity to press herself against him or touch his arm or anything else she can reach. It's disgusting. They are both married to other people and have little kids who might be watching her touching some man who isn't her husband in a completely inappropriate on-camera way.

            Despite her great Democratic pedigree, she is a Republican shill who is working for her corporate masters.

            You can't see past her pretty face to all the ugly underneath.

  •  direct people to (1+ / 0-)
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    The Coburn-Obama Government Transparency Act of 2006 which is responsible for this website.

    * 3963 * http://icasualties.org/oif/

    by BDA in VA on Wed Feb 20, 2008 at 02:56:41 AM PST

  •  Quick reference (2+ / 0-)
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    Anyone acting as a representative can print this out on a cheat sheet.

    Then there is this:

    Judge Him by His Laws

    Then - if you are really wonky (for advanced Level Spokespeople ONLY),  there is this:

    Part of the preface of a really detailed article:

    I do follow legislation, at least on some issues, and I have been surprised by how often Senator Obama turns up, sponsoring or co-sponsoring really good legislation on some topic that isn't wildly sexy, but does matter. His bills tend to have the following features: they are good and thoughtful bills that try to solve real problems; they are in general not terribly flashy; and they tend to focus on achieving solutions acceptable to all concerned, not by compromising on principle, but by genuinely trying to craft a solution that everyone can get behind.

  •  Heres a list of some accomplishments I've found (1+ / 0-)
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    - Obama passed legislation with Republican Senator Jim Talent to give gas stations a tax credit for installing E85 ethanol refueling pumps. The tax credit covers 30 percent of the costs of switching one or more traditional petroleum pumps to E85, which is an 85 percent ethanol/15 percent gasoline blend.

    - After a number of inmates on death row were found innocent, Senator Obama worked with law enforcement officials to require the videotaping of interrogations and confessions in all capital cases.

    - His first law was passed with Republican Tom Coburn, a measure to rebuild trust in government by allowing every American to go online and see how and where every dime of their tax dollars is spent.

    - Obama created the Illinois Earned Income Tax Credit for low-income working families in 2000 and successfully sponsored a measure to make the credit permanent in 2003. The law offered about $105 million in tax relief over three years.

    - Obama joined forces with former U.S. Sen. Paul Simon (D-IL) to pass the toughest campaign finance law in Illinois history. The legislation banned the personal use of campaign money by Illinois legislators and banned gifts from lobbyists. Before the law was passed, one organization ranked Illinois worst among 50 states for its campaign finance regulations.

    - As a member of the Veterans' Affairs Committee, Senator Obama has fought to help Illinois veterans get the disability pay they were promised, while working to prepare the VA for the return of the thousands of veterans who will need care after Iraq and Afghanistan.

    - He traveled to Russia with Republican Dick Lugar to begin a new generation of non-proliferation efforts designed to find and secure deadly weapons around the world.

    - Obama has been a leading advocate for protecting the right to vote, helping to reauthorize the Voting Rights Act and leading the opposition against discriminatory barriers to voting.

    -  In the U.S. Senate, Obama introduced the STOP FRAUD Act to increase penalties for mortgage fraud and provide more protections for low-income homebuyers, well before the current subprime crisis began.

    - Obama sponsored legislation to combat predatory payday loans, and he also was credited with lobbied the state to more closely regulate some of the most egregious predatory lending practices.

    - Barack Obama introduced the Patriot Employer Act of 2007 to provide a tax credit to companies that maintain or increase the number of full-time workers in America relative to those outside the US; maintain their corporate headquarters in America; pay decent wages; prepare workers for retirement; provide health insurance; and support employees who serve in the military.

    - Obama worked to pass a number of laws in Illinois and Washington to improve the health of women. His accomplishments include creating a task force on cervical cancer, providing greater access to breast and cervical cancer screenings, and helping improve prenatal and premature birth services.

    - Obama has introduced and helped pass bipartisan legislation to limit the abuse of no-bid federal contracts.

    - Obama and Senator Feingold (D-WI) took on both parties and proposed ethics legislation that was described as the "gold standard" for reform. It was because of their leadership that ending subsidized corporate jet travel, mandating disclosure of lobbyists' bundling of contributions, and enacting strong new restrictions of lobbyist-sponsored trips became part of the final ethics bill that was signed into law.

    Obama '08 YES WE CAN
    "The government should be afraid of its people, not the people afraid of its government"

    by DFutureIsNow on Wed Feb 20, 2008 at 03:28:45 AM PST

  •  But I am terribly confused.... (1+ / 0-)
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    LynneK

    What has Hillary accomplished legislatively?

    I know she has divided the Democratic Party that had the best opportunity to expunge the conservative agenda. And, we will have to double our efforts to undo the enmity she has instilled into the primary debate, but to be honest, I draw a blank when I consider what we can take home from her years of experience?

    Hopefully, the answer to that question will soon be moot. When Obama wins contests by 17-29% and makes demographic analysis and attempts to divide us irrelevant, I wonder how Hillary would spin a 1-2% victory in TX or Ohio into a reason she should be the nominee.

  •  HardBall Is Racist. Tweety Showed A Pic Of Osama (2+ / 0-)
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    TampaCPA, LynneK

    Bin Laden with the title "WORDS ON WORDS" when referring to the Clinton campaigns discredited and desperate claim that Barack plagiarized Gov. Duvals, his friends, words. This happened Monday evening. Here is the link:

    NBC reprimands employee for using picture of bin Laden behind Obama story

    Tweety cant be trusted, he loves McCain and is a closet right wing nut job.

    This also could have been MSNBC trying to "settle" with the Clintons by smearing Obama just days before the Primaries. Maybe to be seen as "Fair & Balanced"

    Obama '08 YES WE CAN
    "The government should be afraid of its people, not the people afraid of its government"

    by DFutureIsNow on Wed Feb 20, 2008 at 04:00:56 AM PST

  •  Check This Out From The Hillary Event Last Night (1+ / 0-)
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    Kinda ugly >>>

    But prior to losing the networks' attention, Clinton was able to fire off a few other salvos at her Democratic opponent.

    "We can't just have speeches, we've got to have solutions," she declared, "and we need those solutions for America. We've got to get America back in the solutions business. Because while words matter, the best words in the world aren't enough unless you match them with action."

    Those remarks, however, paled in comparison to the criticisms launched by Clinton's introductory speaker, Machinists Union President Tom Buffenbarger. As Ken Vogel reported for Politico, Buffenbarger "compared Obama with 'Janus, the two-faced god' of Roman mythology. He called him 'silver tongued' and a 'thespian' and 'the man in love with the microphone.'"

    "He's not just a trained thespian, he's a terrific shadow boxer. You know the type. Outside the ring, he pretends he can float like a butterfly and sting like a bee," he said. "But Barack Obama is no Muhammad Ali. He took a walk every time there was a tough vote in the Illinois state Senate. He took a walk more than 130 times. That's what a shadow boxer does. All the right moves, all the right combinations, all the right footwork, but he never steps into the ring. He walks away from the fight."

    I wonder who wrote that for this "union leader". Hmmm. Karl Rove. Attack the strength. Obama must remember this when going after McCain, attack his strength. "Double-talk express" , "Flip-flop express" etc. etc.

  •  Tweety sandbagged that guy. (2+ / 0-)
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    LynneK, Ladyhawk

    n/t

    All the war-propaganda, all the screaming and lies and hatred, comes invariably from people who are not fighting. - George Orwell

    by Five of Diamonds on Wed Feb 20, 2008 at 04:31:49 AM PST

    •  Making Up For Clinton Bashing... (2+ / 0-)
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      I think he was trying to look tough on Obama after all of his Clinton bashing.  How many times has he had to apologize for foot in mouth disease.   The problem was, it wasn't his "Hardball" show.  It was a real ambush and the Clinton rep was milking it.  

  •  I noticed no one mentioned.. (2+ / 0-)
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    LynneK, apark559

    BAIPA..  Obama is on record against banning it in Illinois, including long discourses on the constutional implications of banning the killing of an infant post-delivery.  Clinton, Kennedy, Kerry, etc. all voted for the federal ban.

    I wouldn't worry too much about defending Obama's record in the primaries.. I think he has it sewn up.  I would worry what McCain will do with this stuff in the general.

  •  Obama Legislation (3+ / 0-)
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    javelina, kaptanoglu, 4Honesty

    This is my first post (sorry it's sooo long).  Here's a selected list of bills introduced in 2007 by Sen. Obama:

    S.J.RES.23 : A joint resolution clarifying that the use of force against Iran is not authorized by the Authorization for the Use of Military Force Against Iraq, any resolution previously adopted, or any other provision of law.
    Sponsor: Sen Obama, Barack [IL] (introduced 11/1/2007)      Cosponsors (None)
    Committees: Senate Foreign Relations
    Latest Major Action: 11/1/2007 Referred to Senate committee. Status: Read twice and referred to the Committee on Foreign Relations.

    ----------------------------------------------------

    S.114 : A bill to authorize resources for a grant program for local educational agencies to create innovation districts.
    Sponsor: Sen Obama, Barack [IL] (introduced 1/4/2007)      Cosponsors (None)
    Committees: Senate Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions
    Latest Major Action: 1/4/2007 Referred to Senate committee. Status: Read twice and referred to the Committee on Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions.

    ----------------------------------------------------

    S.115 : A bill to suspend royalty relief, to repeal certain provisions of the Energy Policy Act of 2005, and to amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to repeal certain tax incentives for the oil and gas industry.
    Sponsor: Sen Obama, Barack [IL] (introduced 1/4/2007)      Cosponsors (None)
    Committees: Senate Finance
    Latest Major Action: 1/4/2007 Referred to Senate committee. Status: Read twice and referred to the Committee on Finance.

    ----------------------------------------------------

    S.116 : A bill to authorize resources to provide students with opportunities for summer learning through summer learning grants.
    Sponsor: Sen Obama, Barack [IL] (introduced 1/4/2007)      Cosponsors (3)
    Committees: Senate Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions
    Latest Major Action: 1/4/2007 Referred to Senate committee. Status: Read twice and referred to the Committee on Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions.

    ----------------------------------------------------

    S.117 : A bill to amend titles 10 and 38, United States Code, to improve benefits and services for members of the Armed Forces, veterans of the Global War on Terrorism, and other veterans, to require reports on the effects of the Global War on Terrorism, and for other purposes.
    Sponsor: Sen Obama, Barack [IL] (introduced 1/4/2007)      Cosponsors (15)
    Committees: Senate Veterans' Affairs
    Latest Major Action: 1/4/2007 Referred to Senate committee. Status: Read twice and referred to the Committee on Veterans' Affairs.

    ----------------------------------------------------

    S.133 : A bill to promote the national security and stability of the economy of the United States by reducing the dependence of the United States on oil through the use of alternative fuels and new technology, and for other purposes.
    Sponsor: Sen Obama, Barack [IL] (introduced 1/4/2007)      Cosponsors (3)
    Committees: Senate Finance
    Latest Major Action: 1/4/2007 Referred to Senate committee. Status: Read twice and referred to the Committee on Finance.

    ----------------------------------------------------

    S.433 : A bill to state United States policy for Iraq, and for other purposes.
    Sponsor: Sen Obama, Barack [IL] (introduced 1/30/2007)      Cosponsors (3)
    Committees: Senate Foreign Relations
    Latest Major Action: 1/30/2007 Referred to Senate committee. Status: Read twice and referred to the Committee on Foreign Relations.

    ----------------------------------------------------

    S.453 : A bill to prohibit deceptive practices in Federal elections.
    Sponsor: Sen Obama, Barack [IL] (introduced 1/31/2007)      Cosponsors (20)
    Committees: Senate Judiciary
    Senate Reports: 110-191
    Latest Major Action: 10/4/2007 Placed on Senate Legislative Calendar under General Orders. Calendar No. 411.

    ----------------------------------------------------

    S.674 : A bill to require accountability and enhanced congressional oversight for personnel performing private security functions under Federal contracts, and for other purposes.
    Sponsor: Sen Obama, Barack [IL] (introduced 2/16/2007)      Cosponsors (4)
    Committees: Senate Armed Services
    Latest Major Action: 2/16/2007 Referred to Senate committee. Status: Read twice and referred to the Committee on Armed Services.

    ----------------------------------------------------

    S.692 : A bill to amend title 38, United States Code, to establish a Hospital Quality Report Card Initiative to report on health care quality in Veterans Affairs hospitals.
    Sponsor: Sen Obama, Barack [IL] (introduced 2/27/2007)      Cosponsors (1)
    Committees: Senate Veterans' Affairs
    Latest Major Action: 2/27/2007 Referred to Senate committee. Status: Read twice and referred to the Committee on Veterans' Affairs.

    ----------------------------------------------------

    S.713 : A bill to ensure dignity in care for members of the Armed Forces recovering from injuries.
    Sponsor: Sen Obama, Barack [IL] (introduced 2/28/2007)      Cosponsors (34)
    Committees: Senate Armed Services
    Latest Major Action: 2/28/2007 Referred to Senate committee. Status: Read twice and referred to the Committee on Armed Services.

    ----------------------------------------------------S.737 : A bill to amend the Help America Vote Act of 2002 in order to measure, compare, and improve the quality of voter access to polls and voter services in the administration of Federal elections in the States.
    Sponsor: Sen Obama, Barack [IL] (introduced 3/1/2007)      Cosponsors (1)
    Committees: Senate Rules and Administration
    Latest Major Action: 3/1/2007 Referred to Senate committee. Status: Read twice and referred to the Committee on Rules and Administration.

    ----------------------------------------------------

    S.767 : A bill to increase fuel economy standards for automobiles and for other purposes.
    Sponsor: Sen Obama, Barack [IL] (introduced 3/6/2007)      Cosponsors (6)
    Committees: Senate Commerce, Science, and Transportation
    Latest Major Action: 3/6/2007 Referred to Senate committee. Status: Read twice and referred to the Committee on Commerce, Science, and Transportation.

    ----------------------------------------------------

    S.768 : A bill to increase fuel economy standards for automobiles and for other purposes.
    Sponsor: Sen Obama, Barack [IL] (introduced 3/6/2007)      Cosponsors (6)
    Committees: Senate Finance
    Latest Major Action: 3/6/2007 Referred to Senate committee. Status: Read twice and referred to the Committee on Finance.

    ----------------------------------------------------

    S.795 : A bill to assist aliens who have been lawfully admitted in becoming citizens of the United States, and for other purposes.
    Sponsor: Sen Obama, Barack [IL] (introduced 3/7/2007)      Cosponsors (5)
    Committees: Senate Judiciary
    Latest Major Action: 3/7/2007 Referred to Senate committee. Status: Read twice and referred to the Committee on the Judiciary.

    ----------------------------------------------------

    S.823 : A bill to amend the Public Health Service Act with respect to facilitating the development of microbicides for preventing transmission of HIV/AIDS and other diseases, and for other purposes.
    Sponsor: Sen Obama, Barack [IL] (introduced 3/8/2007)      Cosponsors (18)
    Committees: Senate Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions
    Latest Major Action: 3/8/2007 Referred to Senate committee. Status: Read twice and referred to the Committee on Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions.

    ----------------------------------------------------

    S.906 : A bill to prohibit the sale, distribution, transfer, and export of elemental mercury, and for other purposes.
    Sponsor: Sen Obama, Barack [IL] (introduced 3/15/2007)      Cosponsors (3)
    Committees: Senate Environment and Public Works
    Latest Major Action: 3/15/2007 Referred to Senate committee. Status: Read twice and referred to the Committee on Environment and Public Works.

    ----------------------------------------------------

    S.976 : A bill to secure the promise of personalized medicine for all Americans by expanding and accelerating genomics research and initiatives to improve the accuracy of disease diagnosis, increase the safety of drugs, and identify novel treatments.
    Sponsor: Sen Obama, Barack [IL] (introduced 3/23/2007)      Cosponsors (1)
    Committees: Senate Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions
    Latest Major Action: 3/23/2007 Referred to Senate committee. Status: Read twice and referred to the Committee on Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions.

    ----------------------------------------------------

    S.1067 : A bill to require Federal agencies to support health impact assessments and take other actions to improve health and the environmental quality of communities, and for other purposes.
    Sponsor: Sen Obama, Barack [IL] (introduced 3/29/2007)      Cosponsors (3)
    Committees: Senate Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions
    Latest Major Action: 3/29/2007 Referred to Senate committee. Status: Read twice and referred to the Committee on Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions.

    ----------------------------------------------------

    S.1068 : A bill to promote healthy communities.
    Sponsor: Sen Obama, Barack [IL] (introduced 3/29/2007)      Cosponsors (2)
    Committees: Senate Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions
    Latest Major Action: 3/29/2007 Referred to Senate committee. Status: Read twice and referred to the Committee on Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions.

    ----------------------------------------------------

    S.1084 : A bill to provide housing assistance for very low-income veterans.
    Sponsor: Sen Obama, Barack [IL] (introduced 4/10/2007)      Cosponsors (10)
    Committees: Senate Banking, Housing, and Urban Affairs
    Latest Major Action: 4/10/2007 Referred to Senate committee. Status: Read twice and referred to the Committee on Banking, Housing, and Urban Affairs.

    ----------------------------------------------------

    S.1151 : A bill to provide incentives to the auto industry to accelerate efforts to develop more energy-efficient vehicles to lessen dependence on oil.
    Sponsor: Sen Obama, Barack [IL] (introduced 4/18/2007)      Cosponsors (None)
    Committees: Senate Finance
    Latest Major Action: 4/18/2007 Referred to Senate committee. Status: Read twice and referred to the Committee on Finance.

    ----------------------------------------------------

    S.1181 : A bill to amend the Securities Exchange Act of 1934 to provide shareholders with an advisory vote on executive compensation.
    Sponsor: Sen Obama, Barack [IL] (introduced 4/20/2007)      Cosponsors (6)
    Committees: Senate Banking, Housing, and Urban Affairs
    Latest Major Action: 4/20/2007 Referred to Senate committee. Status: Read twice and referred to the Committee on Banking, Housing, and Urban Affairs.

    ----------------------------------------------------

    S.1222 : A bill to stop mortgage transactions which operate to promote fraud, risk, abuse, and under-development, and for other purposes.
    Sponsor: Sen Obama, Barack [IL] (introduced 4/25/2007)      Cosponsors (1)
    Committees: Senate Banking, Housing, and Urban Affairs
    Latest Major Action: 4/25/2007 Referred to Senate committee. Status: Read twice and referred to the Committee on Banking, Housing, and Urban Affairs.

    ----------------------------------------------------

    S.1271 : A bill to provide for a comprehensive national research effort on the physical and mental health and other readjustment needs of the members of the Armed Forces and veterans who served in Operation Iraqi Freedom and Operation Enduring Freedom and their families.
    Sponsor: Sen Obama, Barack [IL] (introduced 5/2/2007)      Cosponsors (4)
    Committees: Senate Armed Services
    Latest Major Action: 5/2/2007 Referred to Senate committee. Status: Read twice and referred to the Committee on Armed Services.

    ----------------------------------------------------

    S.1306 : A bill to direct the Consumer Product Safety Commission to classify certain children's products containing lead to be banned hazardous substances.
    Sponsor: Sen Obama, Barack [IL] (introduced 5/3/2007)      Cosponsors (9)
    Committees: Senate Commerce, Science, and Transportation
    Latest Major Action: 5/3/2007 Referred to Senate committee. Status: Read twice and referred to the Committee on Commerce, Science, and Transportation.

    ----------------------------------------------------

    S.1324 : A bill to amend the Clean Air Act to reduce greenhouse gas emissions from transportation fuel sold in the United States.
    Sponsor: Sen Obama, Barack [IL] (introduced 5/7/2007)      Cosponsors (2)
    Committees: Senate Environment and Public Works
    Latest Major Action: 5/7/2007 Referred to Senate committee. Status: Read twice and referred to the Committee on Environment and Public Works.

    ----------------------------------------------------

    S.1389 : A bill to authorize the National Science Foundation to establish a Climate Change Education Program.
    Sponsor: Sen Obama, Barack [IL] (introduced 5/14/2007)      Cosponsors (3)
    Committees: Senate Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions
    Latest Major Action: 5/14/2007 Referred to Senate committee. Status: Read twice and referred to the Committee on Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions.

  •  John Kerry & Al Gore kicked ass on this (2+ / 0-)
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    And they lost. I think pointing out legislative AND OTHER critical political accomplishments is fine. But it should be noted that good legislators do not necessarily a good president make.

    Most presidents do not have a lot of legislative experience, especially in Washington.

    "We are all atheists about most of the gods that societies have ever believed in. Some of us just go one god further." - Richard Dawkins

    by TX Unmuzzled on Wed Feb 20, 2008 at 05:07:16 AM PST

  •  Please post on MyDD as well (0+ / 0-)

    As much as Daily Kos has become Daily Obama, MyDD is now MyHRC.  One of the recommended posts over there (in spite of its brevity) is a jab holding over from "the question".  If you are a member over there (or if someone else is, I am not), it would be good to cross this to that thread.

    On a related note, I think that this is going to be a trap for HRC in the debate on Thursday, as she is going to ask Obama (or the moderator is) "the question", and I have no doubt that he will be better prepared that the ass-hat that got run over by Chris Matthews.  It may not be Bensen/Quail'esque (though many of you are too young to remember the best debate smack down of all time) but I expect she will walk into a buzz saw:

    When 'you' were in the White House, what were YOUR accomplishments? - health care reform? - managing the travel office?

    What exactly are the responsibilities of the First Lady?  Is that like being the VP?  Did you go to a lot of funerals?  Are you ready to attend funerals and groundbreakings on Day One?

    Proud to be an American?  Always, but not really as proud when the Clintons pardoned Mark Rich, or rented the Lincoln Bedroom to campaign donors, or ___.  I look forward to restoring progressive values AND DIGNITY to the White House.

    Barack has been patiently digging the hole, filling it with pointy things and covering it with branches, and she is going to jump right in.

    Should be fun to watch.

    - k

  •  How many of those bills have passed (1+ / 0-)
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    and been signed into law?

    If the answer is "none," then he has no legislative accomplishments.  It doesn't matter how many Republican asses he kissed if the bills weren't passed and signed into law, then nothing has been accomplished.

    Liberal: "I still think it's a respectable word. Its root is "liber," the Latin word for "free," and isn't that what we are all about?"--Mary McGrory

    by mini mum on Wed Feb 20, 2008 at 05:24:56 AM PST

  •  Always say: Compared to What? (0+ / 0-)

    Compare to McCain. Compare every position to McCain's position.

    Spin every question into a comparative.

    Do you have a child? Will you send her to the war?... anon

    by andreww on Wed Feb 20, 2008 at 05:28:50 AM PST

  •  Download Obamas Blueprint For Change. All The (0+ / 0-)

    Substance you'll ever need to know about:

    OBAMAs PLAN FOR AMERICA

    Obama '08 YES WE CAN
    "The government should be afraid of its people, not the people afraid of its government"

    by DFutureIsNow on Wed Feb 20, 2008 at 05:32:38 AM PST

    •  not quite there yet (1+ / 0-)
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      The bliue print lays out what Obama wants to do, and some of how he wants to get there, but it still doesn't answer the fundamantal question raised by the "all talk" meme.  That is, no matter how detailed his plan is, how can we be sure that he intends to follow it?  And how can we be sure that he is not over-reaching and can actually deliver it if he tries?

      Maureen Dowd wrote a great column this week attacking everybody to show why we are leary of campaign promises.

      Diaries like this one illustrate that he has a history of keeping his promises.

      Thanks again, diarist!  I'm gonna share this.  And It would be great if someone made a new one compiling all the new data in the links.  Keep this up.  Foreward!

      Don't do the Republican's work for them.

      by math monkey on Wed Feb 20, 2008 at 06:02:03 AM PST

      [ Parent ]

  •  sorta off topic...but not (0+ / 0-)

    this post from TPM regarding McCain and his attack on Obama in his speech yesterday.  The item regarding going into Pakistan without permission.  Seems that was actually done successfully yesterday.

    Can anyone tell me what's "centrist" about using the Constitution to wipe your ass? - ActivistGuy

    by billlaurelMD on Wed Feb 20, 2008 at 05:36:27 AM PST

  •  Where is your tip jar? (1+ / 0-)
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    This is the message I have been trying to send, but since I did not have the list, all I could do was whine and beg.

    Thank you.

    Don't do the Republican's work for them.

    by math monkey on Wed Feb 20, 2008 at 05:46:54 AM PST

  •  Thank you, it needed to be said. (0+ / 0-)

    WI Gov Doyle also blew it on TV.

    Obama must have political folks speaking for him well advised.

    Now I go to collapse on the couch with the flu.

    "I don't think the heavy stuff is coming down yet"

    by MadMs on Wed Feb 20, 2008 at 05:51:39 AM PST

  •  I noticed Hillary's gal wasn't asked that. (2+ / 0-)
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    Or at least not that I saw.

    Because really, what legislation has she gotten passed? The lists I've seen are mostly "Sponsored and passed a bill to name an abattoir in New York after the eminent Ernie Dinklefwat" and that sort of thing.

    She's been first lady of Arkansas and the US, but of course it's been aptly pointed out that proximity to power does not equate to experience wielding power. Being married to an astrophysicist doesn't make you an astrophysicist by osmosis.

    This "35 years of experience" thing Hillary touts seems to me to be the ultimate padded resume.

    So I think SHE needs to answer the question as well.

  •  I watched that happen last night... (4+ / 0-)

    And I have never been more furious at Chris Matthews. It was such a low blow, especially since the obvious response after the guy clearly couldn't answer would be to ask the Clinton supporter to name hers.  

    Here is a comparison of their accomplishments:

    Oh! I copied this from another poster--but I needs to be posted alot--the people need to know who will work hard for them and that person is not Hillary--it's Obama

    The following information gathered from the Library of Congress on the Legislative experience Junior Senator Hillary Clinton and Junior Senator Barack Obama. Please Feel free to check these records for yourself and draw your own conclusion.

    Senator Clinton, who has served only one full term, which is 6 years and another year campaigning, has authored and passed 20 twenty pieces of legislation in her term of six years into law. These bills can be found at (wwwhomas.loc.gov).  Senator Clinton has passed.

    (1) Establish the Kate Mullany National Historic Site.
    (2) Support the goals and ideals of Better Hearing and Speech Month.
    (3) Recognize the Ellis Island Medal of Honor.
    (4) Name courthouse after Thurgood Marshall.
    (5) Name courthouse after James L. Watson.
    (6) Name post office after Jonn A. O'Shea.
    (7) Designate Aug. 7, 2003, as National Purple Heart Recognition Day.
    (8) Support the goals and ideals of National Purple Heart Recognition Day.
    (9) Honor the life and legacy of Alexander Hamilton on the bicentennial of his death.
    (10) Congratulate the Syracuse Univ. Orange Men's Lacrosse Team on winning the championship.
    (11) Congratulate the Le Moyne College Dolphins Men's Lacrosse Team on winning the championship.
    (12) Establish the 225th Anniversary of the American Revolution Commemorative Program.
    (13) Name post office after Sergeant Riayan A. Tejeda.
    (14) Honor Shirley Chisholm for her service to the nation and express condolences on her death.
    (15) Honor John J. Downing, Brian Fahey, and Harry Ford, firefighters who lost their lives on duty.

    Only five of Clinton's bills are, more substantive.
    (16) Extend period of unemployment assistance to victims of 9/11.
    (17) Pay for city projects in response to 9/11
    (18) Assist landmine victims in other countries.
    (19) Assist family caregivers in accessing affordable respite care.
    (20) Designate part of the National Forest System in Puerto Rico as protected in the wilderness preservation system.

    She has a nice list, but note that these are The Fact's straight from the Senate Record; Therefore, it is not made up.

    Now, It is time to post Senator Obama's record from the Library of Congress.I have to mention that Senator Obama's list is too substantive, one is coalesced to categorize. Since its alot, remember you can go to the Library of Congress website, and check it out yourself, but I am just summarizing his first 8 months.

    During Senator Obama's first 8 eight months of elected service he sponsored over 820 bills.

    He introduced 233 bills regarding healthcare reform,
    125 bills on poverty and public assistance,
    112 bills on crime fighting,
    97 economic bills,
    60 human rights and anti-discrimination bills,
    21 ethics reform bills,
    15 gun control,
    6 veterans affairs and many others.
    In his first year in the U.S. Senate, he authored 152 bills and co-sponsored another 427. These included:
    (1)the Coburn-Obama Government Transparency Act of 2006 that became LAW,
    (2)The Lugar-Obama Nuclear Non-proliferation and Conventional Weapons Threat Reduction Act that became LAW, (3)The Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act that passed the Senate,
    (4)The 2007 Government Ethics Bill that became LAW,
    (5)The Protection Against Excessive Executive Compensation Bill that is in committee just to name a few.

    In all since he entered the U.S. Senate, Senator Obama has written 890 bills and co-sponsored another 1096. An impressive record, for someone who supposedly has no legislative record.  Read the facts and not emotion.

    As Keith Olbermann pointed out though, Congress hasn't done much noteworthy over the last few years.  The bigger point is that your record in the Senate isn't solely based on legislation you passed.  A junior senator is going to have his name on tons of important legislation is a joke anyway.

    Sigh.  

    Good diary.  

    •  This has been making the rounds (0+ / 0-)

      but it isn't a fair comparison - it puts Hillary's passed legislation next to Obama's sponsored legislation, so it is a distortion, though I'm sure the original poster of this information did not intend it to be.  Still, I wince every time I see it.  

      As Obama supporters, we should be very careful to measure up to the same integrity and truthfulness that Obama exhibits. We are not the campaign that resorts to distorting an opponent's record to make ours look better ... we ARE better.

  •  yep. Obama needs to insulate himself against (1+ / 0-)
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    the "just words" argument. I know he's got a good record as a state senator, and some good stuff on his website. But he could stand to reinforce that a little more. If he doesn't, expect others to fill in the blanks for them. Republicans LOVE filling in the blanks.

    It's not a campaign. It's a movement. Will you stand up?

    by danthrax on Wed Feb 20, 2008 at 06:11:45 AM PST

    •  why bother? (2+ / 0-)
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      Since when do you play to your opponents strengths?

      I mean Obama's strength is inspiring,organizing and public speaking.

      Hilary's strength is "nuts and bolts" details.

      Not so much on public speaking.

      So surprise surprise, HRC wants to draw Obama into a policy debate, because she knows its her strength and his "weakness". And get this. Obama doesnt want to help his opponent.

      So he doesnt. Its worked alright this far.

      And my second point would be this, think of all the great american leaders of the last say...75 years, and what did they have in common?

      Inspiration.Vision.

      think about it people....Did JFK inspire or did he give "policy" speeches?

      Did FDR Inspire or did he stump on "policy"?

      Seriously, any leader worth their "salt" has campaigned not on finite details of Government bureaucracy,but on their VISION.

      So why is Barack held to a diffrent standard than every politician in modern american history.

      It was o.k. for Robert Kennedy , but not Barack?

      •  i think you're right. but these days, politics (0+ / 0-)

        are much more aggressive. there's so much spin and counter-spin... i'm not saying that Obama needs to become a policy wonk. But what he really ought to do is pick one or two major policy positions and hammer them home. he's a good speaker -- he can pull that off.

        It's not a campaign. It's a movement. Will you stand up?

        by danthrax on Wed Feb 20, 2008 at 08:14:59 AM PST

        [ Parent ]

      •  Robert Kennedy (1+ / 0-)
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        was the Attorney General!!!!

        Even then the issue was regularly brought up.

        And unfortunately Bobby Kennedy never got the chance to face a general election opponent for President.

        As for FDR -- uhm yes, he was the first policy wonk.  He did fireside chats, but that wasn't his mainstay.  It's just what he's remembered fondly for.

        As for JFK -- ever hear of the War on Poverty and the Civil Rights Act?  both policy initiatives that Kennedy began talking about in the 1960 campaign.

        "Without haste, but without rest."  Goethe.

        by Blithedale on Wed Feb 20, 2008 at 09:04:16 AM PST

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        •  ok , I got ya,....... (0+ / 0-)

          Robert Kennedy
          was the Attorney General!!!!

          and?? Your point?

          Here is what I said...

          great american leaders

          I hope you aren't disputing whether RFK was a leader?

          Secondly...

          As for FDR -- uhm yes, he was the first policy wonk.  He did fireside chats, but that wasn't his mainstay.  It's just what he's remembered fondly for.

          He was a"policy wonk" in practice not the campaign trail.
          Do you honestly believe the general voting public would have any interest discussing Congressional procedure?

          He campaigned on a vision.

          And lastly....

          As for JFK -- ever hear of the War on Poverty and the Civil Rights Act?  both policy initiatives that Kennedy began talking about in the 1960 campaign.

          Thanks for proving my point for me.

          JFK campaigned on the VISION of a country free from segregation.

          He didnt say, "this is a ten step plan for how we are going to end segregation in the United States".

          He campaigned on the HOPE that he could end poverty in the U.S., born of a generation of Americans who had to suffer through the depression and World Wars.

          He didn't give a Ten Point plan. And its terribly dis-ingenious to imply such.

          He inspired and provided a vision, surrounding himself with qualified individuals as  council is what leads to the execution of said vision.

          •  The point I was trying to make (0+ / 0-)

            was that voters believed that they knew these folks had both leadership skills and a record of accomplishment.

            I am not discounting Obama's (or any of your examples) leadership skills.

            I'm saying that general election voters need to be reassured -- and pretending otherwise is not just ingenuous, it is courting problems.

            "Without haste, but without rest."  Goethe.

            by Blithedale on Wed Feb 20, 2008 at 12:18:32 PM PST

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  •  What's a moke? (0+ / 0-)

    You cannot simultaneously prevent and prepare for war..... Albert Einstein,

    by tazz on Wed Feb 20, 2008 at 06:29:04 AM PST

  •  anger at Matthews is misplaced (2+ / 0-)
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    I really can't understand the anger at Chris Matthews.
     If somebody wants a job, you ask them what they did on their previous jobs. I've done it every time I interviewed anyone. That's all Matthews did and the Obama guy was struck speechless.
     You may say that the Texas senator was an idiot. Yeah, but why didn't Obama's people have somebody good of their own ready to talk with Chris Matthews.
     Or better yet, Obama himself.
     Huckabee certainly has figured out that it's pretty easy to get free publicity from the TV pundits. All you have to do is make yourself available.
     Why isn't Obama all over these shows answering such questions for himself?

    •  Here's why the anger... (6+ / 0-)

      has nothing to do with Obama.

      That state senator from TX. should not be able to cite a bunch of legislation Obama authored.  Olbermann asked Matthews to cite any worthy legislation recently and he couldn't answer.  The US Senate doesn't work that way and it was a sandbag job.  

      Here is a bigger point.  It was clear the Tx. senator didnt know.  Matthews hit him again!  Demanding that he answer.  Embarrassing him FOR NO REASON on national television.  

      The state senator expressed why he is an Obama supporter.  That he inspires etc. that is fair.  To that person legistlation in the Senate doesn't matter.  It may matter to some.  But the fact that it didnt matter to him, and that he didnt know what legislation Obama authored or worked on was meaningless.  

      I like Chris Matthews generally.  But his actions last night were indefensible and he owes that man a personal, public apology.  

  •  What matters to me (3+ / 0-)
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    is not some extensive legislative record, but the choices he has made in his life.  Choosing to be a community organizer when he could have easily moved into a high-paying law firm.  His judgment about the Iraq war.  His ability to mobilize human beings into a movement.  Finally, his ability to articulate his vision for the future.  

    And yes, I agree all who support him and are his spokespersons need to memorize his legislative accomplishments to counteract this nonsense, but the Tweety moment said more about Tweety and his need to get a clip to discuss on Mornin' Joe than anything else.  It's a non-starter anyway, who the hell watches Tweety anyway? These young people who are behind Obama aren't watching these MSM idiots; they are out mobililizing and working to get him elected.

  •  Here's the link to the video (0+ / 0-)

    He's mean.

    "Since, then, we both wear masks, either let us both retain them or put them aside together." -The Man in the Iron Mask

    by L etudiante on Wed Feb 20, 2008 at 07:33:25 AM PST

  •  You will see McInsane on the air attacking (0+ / 0-)

    Obama on his experience like today on CNN with no counter.

    Its corporate media and their candidate is McInsane.

  •  Duality (2+ / 0-)
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    The thing that got me about Matthews question to the Texas legislator was he asked the question repeatedly, and then Stephanie Tubbs, the Clinton supporter started asking it, too.  Then she says "Hillary has all kinds of accomplishments all over the world".  At this point, if Matthews was going to be fair, he should have asked Tubbs to list Hillary's accomplishments, the same thing he asked the Texas legislator.  My guess is that Tubbs would also have been at a loss of words.  I mean...what HAS Hillary accomplished??  She has tried health care and blew it.  But what has she actually accomplished?  I heave never seen her as one who could bring people together...rather, she has always been a very divisive politician, along the lines of Bill Clinton and George Bush.

    •  exactly! (0+ / 0-)

      To tell you the truth, I think that angered me more than how he got all over Watson.  As Tubbs was gloating he should have stopped and asked her the same thing.  

      And quite franky, I'm STILL waiting for someone to ask Hillary just what that celebrated '35 years' of experience is specifically!

  •  This is an important topic that requires more (2+ / 0-)
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    work on the diarist's part.

    There is room on the recommended list for someone to do a more thorough summary of Senator Obama's legislative successes.

    It should include legislation that passed which he introduced or co-sponsored in(and separately) the US Senate and Illinois legislature with summaries and links for the wonks.

    There should be another that lists his voting record on key issues by topic such as national security, health care, social security... These list should be comprehensive (not selective) and printable for supporters to read from and study.

    The campaign should offer this but we can help the cause.


    "And we are here as on a darkling plain Swept with confused alarms of struggle and flight, Where ignorant armies clash by night." Matthew Arnold

    by Cantinflas on Wed Feb 20, 2008 at 07:38:09 AM PST

    •  i say again...did JFK campaign on "policy" or (0+ / 0-)

      Inspiration?

      I am willing to bet the latter, and it is un-necessary to allow the GOP and HRC to frame the debate when Obama has them just where he wants em.

      just another right wing talking point being perpetuated FOR them.

      Barack is perfectly capable as a legislator and that is well proven and can be confirmed by anyone who has access to a computer and who can read.

      of course that apparently eliminates Tweety.

      •  He is not JFK and this is not the 60's. (1+ / 0-)
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        With the internet there is much more instant communication and more intense review. His record is something we need to know and be proud of. It can't hurt to be informed.


        "And we are here as on a darkling plain Swept with confused alarms of struggle and flight, Where ignorant armies clash by night." Matthew Arnold

        by Cantinflas on Wed Feb 20, 2008 at 07:55:41 AM PST

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        •  OH so idealism and vision could only happen (0+ / 0-)

          within the 60's?

          Interesting.

          Cynical.

          But interesting.

          Secondly , as you said yourself we have the internet. And in those "tubes" resides all the information you or TWeety would need.

          Its called "public record", and unlike this president , Obama hasnt had it redacted from the record.

          So if Tweety, or you , or any voter wanted to know his legislative accomplishments they would just have to , well ya know, read.

          But Tweety would rather play gotcha.

          Fact is, non of HRC surrogates get into the nuts and bolts of her plans either, and attacking Obama through a proxy has proven less than effective wouldnt ya say?

          And in 4 yrs when ya vote for Obama, and he is the modern day Kennedy, then you can kiss his ass like everyone else will.

          I will settle for being on the right side of this issue when the history books are written.

          I will be able to tell my grandchildren, "yes I voted for the greatest president in modern history.The man who re-shaped politics in America and returned our nation to its full potential."

          Nothing worthwhile happened without HOPE.

          And only people who have struggled can understand the importance of Hope ,and the reality that any little boy in America could grow up to be Presidnet,not just party insiders.

          It is without a doubt the great american story.

          Hollywood couldnt write a better script.

          •  This is an old fashioned rant not anything (0+ / 0-)

            coming from idealism:

            And in those "tubes" resides all the information you or TWeety would need.

            I think Obama has a very history and it should be properly told without the breathless anger you are sharing with me. We don't need a Hollywood script.

            You have no idea who I voted for in the primary here.


            "And we are here as on a darkling plain Swept with confused alarms of struggle and flight, Where ignorant armies clash by night." Matthew Arnold

            by Cantinflas on Wed Feb 20, 2008 at 10:50:27 AM PST

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  •  Don't care (1+ / 0-)
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    for Tweety. But, his question was legitimate. If you're going to back someone, you should probably have at least a passing knowledge of his accomplishments. In this case, a politician, should have at least one item to serve up.

    Common Sense is not Common

    by RustyBrown on Wed Feb 20, 2008 at 07:54:08 AM PST

  •  I was listening to Hannity (1+ / 0-)
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    (by accident - the radio was tuned there from a local morning news program) and he used this also effectively. A focus group for Obama could not name one real THING he'd done to earn their support. This played into his a) Dems are stupid and b) "all hat no cattle" themes.

    •  Does the average American voter on the Republican (0+ / 0-)

      know of McCain's "accomplishments" (besides his war hero status) Just curious.  I don't think the average voter has Senate voting records memorized.  

      "I never knew what an elephant sounded like when it was drowning, until now," Doug Gordon, Kucinich Spokesman

      by EuroTrash60 on Wed Feb 20, 2008 at 10:47:56 AM PST

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  •  Tweety was not fair to ask the HRC supporter same (0+ / 0-)

    That's what really pissed me off. Because in the end both have accomplishments but to name them for most is hard to do for the Clinton people too.

    Let's be frank I could not name one thing that Ms.
    Clinton has accomplished.

    But I could for Obama, ethics reform, death penalty reform, etc.

  •  What were Lincoln's legislative accomplishments? (2+ / 0-)
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    Wasn't Lincoln also an in-experienced congressman from Illinois?

    So is the test here to see how much an insider he is? Frankly that's not a test I'd like to see him pass.

    Ladership = Yes
    Horse trader = No

  •  I will memorize. (0+ / 0-)

    Thanks for the link about Obama's record!

    Investigate! Impeach! Indict! Incarcerate!

    by Cato come back on Wed Feb 20, 2008 at 08:26:39 AM PST

  •  Obama's Record (2+ / 0-)
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    Here is Emperor Obama's record, per senate.gov:

    He voted to add $36Million to Guantanamo Bay
    He voted to remove interstate cases from federal courts to state courts, thus making it more difficult for consumers to prevail.
    HE NEVER VOTED IN 2007 TO HAVE OUR TROOPS REMOVED SAFELY FROM IRAQ.
    HE NEVER VOTED IN 2007 TO BRING BIN LADEN TO JUSTICE.

    This is your "savior," the "One" as Oprah said.
    We will lose in NOvember with this man as our nominee and you will have yourselves to blame.  

  •  i think you're missing the point (4+ / 0-)
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    Matthews, a few weeks ago: "Barack Obama is the New Testament!!"

    Scarborough, a few weeks ago: "Everytime this guy gives a speech, my phone is ringing off the hook with hardcore Republicans calling to gush over him."

    And now?

    Scarborough, all about the "first time I've felt proud..."

    Matthews, "name Obama's legislative accomplishments RIGHT NOW even as I continue to INTERRUPT YOU."

    The issue isn't legislative accomplishments. Even if you can get rid of that issue some way, they'll find another. I was saying all along, what sells the most papers and draws the most cable news ratings for the next 4 years is the Dems losing the most unloseable election in the history of the universe.

    •  & it was all to be expected, and they needed (1+ / 0-)
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      to be ready---he was the good one compared to Clinton who they painted as evil, but no Dem is ever given any slack against any Republican--ever--esp St. McCain the Independent Straight-talking Maverick who they've loved for decades.

      And then, he farted candy and rainbows...

      by amberglow on Wed Feb 20, 2008 at 09:59:42 AM PST

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    •  when you defend yourself (1+ / 0-)
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      When you defend yourself right away they need to attack again from another angle.  More work for them.

      When you attack a popular person from a position where you are less popular, you look bad and people leap to the popular person's defense.  See Clinton.

      However, when you let the attack slide because the attack is so contemptible it is beneath your notice, then the attack has time to build momentum (see Swift Boat Veterens for Truth).  

      It becomes a cancer that eats away from the inside; and your silence is touted as "proof" that the attack is true.

      So we need to defend Obama.  Effectively.  And we need Obama to effectively defend himself.

      Superman may have worked alone, but in the real world you need constant vigilance and good friends to guard your back.

      Don't do the Republican's work for them.

      by math monkey on Wed Feb 20, 2008 at 10:19:15 AM PST

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  •  besides (1+ / 0-)
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    Another point.  I believed the attack had merit, and it was comments from people touting Barrack as a Man of Action that won me over.  Specifically, the tilting point came when I read about his record in the Illinois legislature.  I'm sure there are more like me.

    A diary gets more attention than a comment.

    An informed spokesman gets more attention than a diary.

    The candidate's own words get more attention that any spokesman.

    Don't do the Republican's work for them.

    by math monkey on Wed Feb 20, 2008 at 10:23:42 AM PST

  •  IDEA: Run that same guy out there again... (1+ / 0-)
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    but after a crash course in Obama Accomplishments 101.

    •  I wish I could give you a 4000! (0+ / 0-)

      I agree.  This would be a great YouTube.  Last night, in Obama's speech, he kept stressing in various ways, that he can't do this alone.  We need to do our part.  That guys part was to know about Obama's political self and that included his legislation.

      Great follow-up and a way to right a mistake.

      I got tased in *The Great Markos Candidate Meltdown Cranky Pants Sting of Ought 7*

      by nolalily on Wed Feb 20, 2008 at 11:52:45 AM PST

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  •  Excellent diary title! (0+ / 0-)

    Because it is a valid and important point to make! And not just regarding Mr. Obama, but any and all of our would-be 'leaders'.

    There is no need to denigrate Chris Matthews (on this point, anyway), Ms. Tubbs from Ohio or Ms. Clinton. In fact, Tubbs was outstanding in her ability to articulate, with examples, her reasons for supporting her candidate.  

    Actual accomplishments do matter.

    I saw the interview and it is a significant point that State Sen. Kirk Watson(TX) could not answer the question.  NOT because it is some one-up point in the  campaign, or that it somehow reflects on the candidate or embarrasses other Obama supporters.  It is important - as a cautionary example - to us, the American people, to always be circumspect regarding what the media tells and shows you, the various 'movements' or crises supposedly happening and the substance and motives of individuals.

    It is quite possible, that Watson, in a position to influence others, became an Obama supporter as the result of being swept-up in an emotion-based wave or as a strategic move for his own career, rather than an intellectual conclusion as to what his assessment is for the best prospects for the country as a whole. Which is what I would say is a better basis for deciding where to place one's support.

    It is also possible, Watson just got flustered (though less likely), but none of us should shrink away from the question, no matter to whom it is posed, by whom or about whom!

    Every minute, every word you spend on parlor games, hurts real issues.

    by coffeeinamrica on Wed Feb 20, 2008 at 11:13:22 AM PST

  •  Welcome to a month of 45 minute speeches... (0+ / 0-)

    ...as Obama turns on the "dry" switch to tout his "substance" that everyone seems to keep ignoring.

  •  ITS MSNBC, not just Chris Matthews!!! (0+ / 0-)

    yanno I read this diary this morning and hotlisted it... something I hardly ever do here.  I didn't give the subject matter much thought though because, as some have said here, who cares what "tweety" thinks...  

    and then a few minutes ago I heard whoever is hosting the MSNBC show on at 2:30est replay the matthews segment asking 'so what are Obama's legislative accomplishements huh, huh, HUH!"

    hmmm, I thought.... it's not just Chris Matthews, it's MSNBC in general who is looking to 'pick a fight' or instigate one.  I wonder why they still don't get it that the voters aren't going to 'play along' this campaign season?

    anyway... at that moment I heard the replay I remembered that I had hotlisted this diary that contained concise lists of ALL of Obama's 'legislative" stuff and I came here to lift the lists into emails to the folks over at MSNBC  and CNN et all (just for good measure).  I am doing this for TWO reasons:

    1. to give these idio-ooops political commentators the infomation they seem so desperate to know.
    1. to let them know that their viewers dont care if they get a childish gotcha on some politician on TV because we already KNOW Obama's legislative accomplishments.

    IMPEACH THE CHEERLEADER... SAVE THE WORLD! © ®

    by KnotIookin on Wed Feb 20, 2008 at 11:50:19 AM PST

  •  Watson is a typical Obama supporter (1+ / 0-)
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    It's too bad.  I have asked some of the people I know who voted for Obama why they voted for him, and they sound just like Tex. State Sen. Watson.  They mumble about hope.  I notice it also on the blogs.  Oh sure, there are people who actually have REASONS, but they are the small minority.  On the other hand, Rep. Tubb Jones is representative of HRC supporters.  They know why they are supporting her.  They know what she has done and will do.

    Watching what has happened so far in this election on the Democratic side has made me sad for my country.  I mean, the Republicans have picked their best candidate.  But as usual, the Democrats getting ready to snatch defeat from victory.  And the Republicans, as always, have been helping us do so, by participating in record numbers -- in our primaries and caucuses.

  •  Simple List (0+ / 0-)

    =============
    Obama
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    During the first - 8 - eight years of his elected service he sponsored over 820 bills. He introduced

    233 regarding healthcare reform,
    125 on poverty and public assistance,
    112 crime fighting bills,
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    Obama
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    During the first - 8 - eight years of his elected service he sponsored over 820 bills. He introduced

    233 regarding healthcare reform,
    125 on poverty and public assistance,
    112 crime fighting bills,
    97 economic bills,
    60 human rights and anti-discrimination bills,
    21 ethics reform bills,
    15 gun control,
    6 veterans affairs and many others.

    NY TImes Obama's record in the Illinois Senate

    His first year in the U.S. Senate, he authored 152 bills and co-sponsored another 427. These inculded:

    1. The Coburn-Obama Government Transparency Act of 2006 - became law,
    1. The Lugar-Obama Nuclear Non-proliferation and Conventional Weapons Threat Reduction Act, - became law,
    1. The Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act, passed the Senate,
    1. The 2007 Government Ethics Bill, - became law,
    1. The Protection Against Excessive Executive Compensation Bill, In committee, and many more.

    In all, since entering the U.S. Senate, Senator Obama has written 890 bills and co-sponsored another 1096.

  •  Texas State Senator Responds to the Incident (3+ / 0-)
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    So . . . That really happened.

    On Tuesday night, after an important and historic victory in the Wisconsin Presidential Primary by Senator Barack Obama, I appeared on the MSNBC post-election program. "Hardball" host Chris Matthews (who is, it turns out, as ferocious as they say), began grilling me on Senator Obama’s legislative record.

    And my mind went blank. I expected to be asked about the primary that night, or the big one coming up in Texas on March 4, or just about anything else in the news. When the subject changed so emphatically, I reached for information that millions of my fellow Obama supporters could recite by heart, and I couldn’t summon it.

    My most unfortunate gaffe is not, in any way, a comment on Senator Obama, his substantial record, or the great opportunity we all share to elect him President of the United States.

    Had I not lost my mind, here are the accomplishments I would have mentioned:

       * Senator Obama’s fight for universal children’s health care in Illinois.
       * His success bringing Republicans and Democrats together (a huge selling point for me in general) on bills such as the one in Illinois requiring police interrogations and confessions to be videotaped.
       * His leadership on ethics reform in Washington (the bill that lobbyists and special interests are complaining about right now has his name on it).
       * His bill to make the federal budget far more transparent and accessible to Americans via the Internet – we could use that openness in Texas.
       * And his vital work with Republicans to lock down nuclear weapons around the world.

    Full Response Here

    "Never separate the life you live from the words you speak" -Paul Wellstone

    by WellstoneDem on Wed Feb 20, 2008 at 12:38:19 PM PST

  •  Ten Commandments (0+ / 0-)

    Reminded me of a classic when Stephen Colbert had some Georgia politician on who was pushing to have the Ten Commandments displayed in public places.  Colbert asked him to name them and the guy was dumbfounded.

  •  added to hotlist..thanks! (0+ / 0-)

    this will come in handy I'm sure...

    "It's better to realize you're a swan than to live life as a disgruntled duck."

    by Mumon on Wed Feb 20, 2008 at 12:58:23 PM PST

  •  Sen. Kirk Watson's explanation... (0+ / 0-)

    Here's (former Austin Mayor) Sen. Watson's mea culpa. Seems honest enough...he froze up. No excuses - just screwed the pooch on national teevee.

    http://www.kirkwatson.com/...

    "I can eat fifty eggs."

    by Goober Pea on Wed Feb 20, 2008 at 01:23:04 PM PST

  •  please update your diary with Watson blog link (0+ / 0-)

    How about also checking out the CLASS ACT that the guy actually is ... worth cutting plenty of slack - before we all jump off cliffs ... He, in fact, is the very kind of person - just like Obama - who would be the first to acknowledge a mistake and learn from it.

    Kirk Watson is working his butt off in his Senate District to bring it home for Obama in a BIG TEXAS WAY.

    from the burntorangereport

    http://www.burntorangereport.com/...

    and from his TX State Senator site

    http://www.kirkwatson.com/...

    Hegel said: "History repeats itself - once as tragedy, another as farce." Bush has used them both up, so Let's go change history!

    by sundancekid11 on Wed Feb 20, 2008 at 01:23:42 PM PST

  •  From Eve in THE NEW REPUBLIC (0+ / 0-)

    I posted this the other day. Eve put this comment up.

    As the junior Senator from New York, Hillary has passed no major legislation. She has deferred to the senior Senator (Schumer) to tend to the needs of New Yorkers, even on the hot issue of medical problems of workers involved in the cleanup of Ground Zero after 9/11. - Hillary's one notable vote; supporting the plan to invade Iraq, she has since disavowed. Quite a resume?. Sounds more like an organized crime family?s rap sheet. please read the following information gathered from the Library of Congress. Feel free to check these records for yourself; better still, read a little more, and try and stay current before posting assinine comments: Clinton v. Obama on Legislative Experience: Senator Clinton, who has served only one full term (6yrs.), and another year campaigning, has managed to author and pass into law, (20) twenty pieces of legislation in her first six years. These bills can be found on the website of the Library of Congress (www.thomas.loc.gov), but to save you trouble, I'll post them here for you: 1. Establish the Kate Mullany National Historic Site. 2. Support the goals and ideals of Better Hearing and Speech Month. 3. Recognize the Ellis Island Medal of Honor. 4. Name courthouse after Thurgood Marshall. 5. Name courthouse after James L. Watson. 6. Name post office after Jonn A. O'Shea. 7. Designate Aug. 7, 2003, as National Purple Heart Recognition Day. 8. Support the goals and ideals of National Purple Heart Recognition Day. 9. Honor the life and legacy of Alexander Hamilton on the bicentennial of his death. 10. Congratulate the Syracuse Univ. Orange Men's Lacrosse Team on winning the championship. 11. Congratulate the Le Moyne College Dolphins Men's Lacrosse Team on winning the championship. 12. Establish the 225th Anniversary of the American Revolution Commemorative Program. 13. Name post office after Sergeant Riayan A. Tejeda. 14. Honor Shirley Chisholm for her service to the nation and express condolences on her death. 15. Honor John J. Downing, Brian Fahey, and Harry Ford, firefighters who lost their lives on duty. Only five of Clinton's bills are, more substantive. 16. Extend period of unemployment assistance to victims of 9/11. 17. Pay for city projects in response to 9/11 18. Assist landmine victims in other countries. 19. Assist family caregivers in accessing affordable respite care. 20. Designate part of the National Forest System in Puerto Rico as protected in the wilderness preservation system. There you have it, the fact's straight from the Senate Record. Now, I would post those of Obama's, but the list is too substantive, so I'll mainly categorize. During the first (8) eight months of his elected service he sponsored over 820 bills. He introduced 233 regarding healthcare reform, 125 on poverty and public assistance, 112 crime fighting bills, 97 economic bills, 60 human rights and anti-discrimination bills, 21 ethics reform bills, 15 gun control, 6 veterans affairs and many others. His first year in the U.S. Senate, he authored 152 bills and co-sponsored another 427. These inculded **the Coburn-Obama Government Transparency Act of 2006 (became law), **The Lugar-Obama Nuclear Non-proliferation and Conventional Weapons Threat Reduction Act, (became law), **The Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act, passed the Senate, **The 2007 Government Ethics Bill, (became law), **The Protection Against Excessive Executive Compensation Bill, (In committee), and many more. In all since he entered the U.S. Senate, Senator Obama has written 890 bills and co-sponsored another 1096. An impressive record, for someone who supposedly has no legislative record. . . .

    The link is: http://www.tnr.com/...

  •  The link is to a comment at the page bottom (0+ / 0-)
  •  that's it? seems like a pretty short list. (1+ / 0-)
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    to be fair, can you post hillary's accomplishments and see which is better?

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