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(DEVELOPING STORY: I will update this post as more information comes in...JF)

The Republican marketing man behind the "Willie Horton" television ad that helped to end the presidential bid of Michael Dukakis has resurfaced in a new ad that uses World War II style propaganda techniques to create the false impression that Sen. Barack Obama supporets inner city gang violence and "urban terrorism."

The ad, sponsored by a political group called, is the latest effort by well-funded right-wing pundits and political groups to define a Democratic candidate for president as a violent threat to the American people.  Violent rhetoric from the right is an ongoing problem in American democracy that remains unchallenged by the media and by government oversight.  

The new ad signifies a huge step into the center of the 2008 election for right-wing pundits and political groups pushing violent rhetoric.

This is the ad:

Keep in mind that part of the strategy of is to release this ad via YouTube in hope that it will travel through the internet--thus the ad can have an impact without an actual "ad buy."

When discussing this ad in other blog posts, please do not link to the site, but to this diary or other blog posts that put the ad in the proper context.

In other words, let's use this discussion to draw attention away from and bring people into the discussion of what's wrong  with the kind of politics that group represents.

Violent Rhetoric: The Right-Wing Strategy To Win in '08
The ad by is an example of 'violent language' or 'violent rhetoric' used in this case by a right-wing group linked to the Republican Party.

In this case, the goal  of the ad is not to teach the American public about crime, but to associate a democratic candidate (Obama) with acts of extreme violence that would not otherwise be linked to him.

Accordingly, the ad contributes to a growing effort by right-wing pundits to define Sen. Obama as someone who supports terrorism, enemies of the United States, and racially-motivated hatred.  

All these efforts represent explicit propaganda technique called 'transfer,' developed and used by World War II era agencies to wage campaigns against enemies:

Transfer is another of the seven main propaganda terms first used by the Institute for Propaganda Analysis in 1938. Transfer is often used in politics and during wartime. It is an attempt to make the subject view a certain item in the same way as they view another item, to link the two in the subjects mind. Although this technique is often used to transfer negative feelings for one object to another, it can also be used in positive ways. By linking an item to something the subject respects or enjoys, positive feelings can be generated for it. However, in politics, transfer is most often used to transfer blame or bad feelings from one politician to another of his friends or party members, or even to the party itself. When confronted with propaganda using the transfer technique, we should question the merits or problems of the proposal or idea independently of convictions about other objects or proposals.

(From "Propaganda Techniques" link)

The ad by attempts to transfer the violent meaning in certain keywords to Barack Obama by repeating these keywords in proximity to his name.

These words include: murder, terrorism, kill, etc.

At no point in the ad does the narrator say that Sen. Obama committed these violent acts.  Instead, the ad uses violent keywords, music evoking violence, and violent imagery to create an interpretive framework for redefining Sen. Obama in public consciousness.

Most notably, this effort at violent rhetoric propaganda comes on the morning of the Pennsylvania primary, the implication being that this ad was specifically created to give Pennsylvania voters--as well as journalists and reporters covering the Pennsylvania primary--the impression that Sen. Obama is somehow linked to gang violence.

Since the propaganda technique of 'transfer' is counter to every standard of honest journalism, the entire U.S. broadcast media establishment has an obligation to explain to their viewers why this ad is anti-Democratic and condemned it.

Floyd Brown: Violent Rhetoric Propagandist
The propagandist behind the new ad is Floyd Brown.  Prior to this effort, Brown was working on a long-term effort to use propaganda techniques--including 'transfer'--to similarly define Sen. Hillary Clinton as a violent threat to the American people--a violent propaganda campaign called "Stop Hillary." is an organization created to disseminate Brown's work and is listed as part of the "National Campaign Fund," a Washington, DC based organization.

Update [2008-4-22 11:46:21 by Jeffrey Feldman]: - From the comments c/o boadicea...Floyd Brown is also on the advisory board of the National Conservative Campaign Fund

Update [2008-4-22 12:9:4 by Jeffrey Feldman]: - Hat tip to kossack Annabella for spotting this development as it broke last night.  Her diary included a link to a Newsmax article seeding the story (follow this link to get to that story).  Newsmax is a right-wing front and is currently running the ad on their front page. So,  annabella's diary helps us follow the early trajectory of the ad.

Update [2008-4-22 12:23:36 by Jeffrey Feldman]: - From the comments from dannyinla...Floyd Brown's propaganda firm is called Excellentia, Inc.   Floyd's web page in which he confesses his recent love for the outside of horses: (giddyup).  And Mrs. Brown, apparently, has written a book on Condi (no word, as yet, on her equine predilections).

With an eye towards the general election, I am beginning a new project focused on the problem of violent rhetoric from the Right and the problems it poses--not just to Democratic Party prospects at winning the White House, but to American democracy itself.

Last year, I began tracking the problem of violent rhetoric and violent framing as it was being used by high-profile right-wing pundits and politicians, resulting in a book exploring this problem titled Outright Barbarous: How the Violent Language of the Right Poisons American Democracy.  

Interested in helping with this DailyKos series?  To join the  invite-only Google Group, send an email to:

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Originally posted to Jeffrey Feldman on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 07:59 AM PDT.

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  •  this ad sucks (6+ / 0-)

    And I don't think is worthy of any attention whatsoever.

    •  I agree. (1+ / 0-)
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      What's madness but nobility of the soul at odds with circumstance?

      by slinkerwink on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 08:05:28 AM PDT

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    •  That is what the Kerry Campaign (3+ / 0-)
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      thought about the Swift Boat Veterans as well.

      The Violent Rhetoric of the right wing will continue until it starts to hurt them more than they think it helps.

      We have to push back. Relentlessly.

      Before you win, you have to fight. Come fight along with us at TexasKaos.

      by boadicea on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 08:11:49 AM PDT

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      •  They continued to think that... (0+ / 0-)

        ... even after the impact of the Swift Boat ads was already well established. This is not the same thing.

        "Are you familiar with the old robot saying: Does not compute?" --- Bender

        by droogie6655321 on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 08:12:47 AM PDT

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        •  Okay, not sure how this is a response (0+ / 0-)

          to my argument about the need to push back and make sure propaganda is seen for what it is.

          Before you win, you have to fight. Come fight along with us at TexasKaos.

          by boadicea on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 08:14:17 AM PDT

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        •  I do not see how the Obama campaign can (1+ / 0-)
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          respond to this AD.   At least the Kerry campaign would have been able to respond to the swiftboat AD if they had chosen.  This AD any response is going to be labled as he does not believe in America or the American justice system.  If he runs a direct response to Capital Punishment that is.   He could respond with an AD saying, this is Republican politics as usual, this is how they distract Americans with propaganda, so they can keep on making record profits for bankers and oil companies.
          But that would probably be a little weaker than being able to respond directly to the AD.   But what do I know, Obama has shown a very talented campaign with strong responses to these type of things.

    •  It ain't 1988 anymore (0+ / 0-)

      and his response only requires one simple sentence:

      Anyone who believes that this bile will legitimately change voter's minds has a terrible view of America, and sees us as a country of racists, bigots and cowards.

      And then he adds this:

      I believe in an America that has hopes and dreams, and our great country will be insulted to have their intelligence and integrity questions with this filth.

      And then the Ad will be dead.

      •  that's his response (1+ / 0-)
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        but not necessarily ours.

        Before you win, you have to fight. Come fight along with us at TexasKaos.

        by boadicea on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 09:08:18 AM PDT

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      •  it's a good response, but... (3+ / 0-)
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        the ad will not be dead after that, unfortunately.

        These folks have lots of money to spend.  And a huge network that runs right-through the media.  The ad will get out and it will have an impact.

        Support kossack authors! Buy Framing The Debate...

        by Jeffrey Feldman on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 09:11:35 AM PDT

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        •  Not that much money to spend (2+ / 0-)
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          Brown is funding the initial ad campaign through a political action committee called the National Campaign Fund, which had $14,027 in the bank at the end of March. Brown said he had established several other front groups to fund a long-range effort to erode Obama's support, including a second PAC, called The Legacy Committee, a 527 organization called Citizens for a Safe and Prosperous America and a so-called "social welfare" 501(c)4 nonprofit called the Policy Issues Institute.

          •  His other PACs (2+ / 0-)
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            Mike Reagan starting new Federal PAC; Foundation

            by James Lacy - Political Law (bio) (email)(print) 3-28-2007 7:56 am

            Radio talk show host and Presidential son Mike Reagan has jumped into the 2008 elections with both feet, having started a new federal political action committee named "The Legacy Committee PAC." The PAC is in the mail right now with its initial fundraising letters, be on the lookout! Assisting Mike in his efforts is partner and talk radio executive Tim Kelly from The Reagan Group, political consultant Floyd Brown (known for funding those "Willie Horton" TV ads in the 1988 Presidential election), Response Dynamics, and yours truly as Treasurer and counsel. Legacy PAC is hammering away in its direct mail on conservative issues, and hopes to play a role in both the Presidential race and key Congressional districts in California and the U.S. Mike has also started a separate organization, The Reagan Legacy Foundation. The Foundation is dedicated to chartiable activities and will work to support education about the Reagan presidency, and help charities related to that legacy, such as alzheimer's research. The Foundation expects to help support the Reagan Golf Classic with other charities in San Diego later this year.


            Can't find anything on the others.

  •  Shall we look at McCain and Hillary's STATES (2+ / 0-)
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    murders TOO?

    Give us a break - this is STUPID.

    Coonsey's View

    by cscmm on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 08:04:15 AM PDT

    •  OK...let me just address this view (14+ / 0-)

      before it takes on any more momentum in this thread.

      I agree with your opinion. Clearly the ad is 'stupid' in the sense of not being a real description of Obama.  But whether or not we think it is a smart observation is not the issue--it's whether or not it is effective as propaganda.

      These propaganda techniques have worked effectively for 50+ years and they will work  via this ad, too.

      We cannot afford the luxury of dismissing this right-wing propaganda as if it will have no impact on the election.  We must jump, use the tools at our disposal, and defuse them.  

      Support kossack authors! Buy Framing The Debate...

      by Jeffrey Feldman on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 08:10:45 AM PDT

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      •  Jeffrey, I wonder if this ad is just so blatant (2+ / 0-)
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        that it will do more harm than good?  As the mother of a Korean son, I am just as appalled as you about the implications of's frightening.  But, I wonder if it's just SO blatant and SO racist that it will backfire.  Just a thought, and not meant to imply that we shouldn't push back forcefully against it.

        •  Good question; my sense is that it is well within (3+ / 0-)
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          the bounds of effective propaganda.  The key is to imagine the audience--which is clearly not us.  

          The intended target audience is likely: the media and undecided voters in key states (PA, OH, FL).

          Also, violent rhetoric has a cumulative effect that goes beyond the impact of any single effort. I suspect this ad will make the rounds of the weekly news cycle, then head off to the email lists.

          I believe ExposeObama is having a conference call at 12:30EST, today.  So we can probably expect the ad to hit FOX by tonight and then MSNBC, CNN by tomorrow.

          These folks are paid lots of money to do this. They won't quit until they can prove to their backers that they've reached the number of impressions they promised in their original proposal.

          Support kossack authors! Buy Framing The Debate...

          by Jeffrey Feldman on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 08:40:14 AM PDT

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          •  The media (1+ / 0-)
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            used to be able to be counted on to at least pretend to be unbiased.  That's what's been most disturbing of all...their willingness to play along with all this crap.  I'm so disappointed and disturbed by it.  It's dangerous and the last piece in the puzzle of facism.  What would be involved in helping with your project?, I might be interested.

            •  mostly (2+ / 0-)
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              helping monitor right-wing media outlets and offering ideas when you have them.  

              So far we are still in the phase of getting up to speed.

              Support kossack authors! Buy Framing The Debate...

              by Jeffrey Feldman on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 08:51:13 AM PDT

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              •  How do you propose to respond to this ad and (1+ / 0-)
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                other propagandistic ads as they come out?  Or what do you propose asking people in general (or Kossacks or whatever) to do?

                •  it's very important to focus on (3+ / 0-)
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                  the problem of this kind of rhetoric--the damage it does to our political system, which is rooted in free and open exchange.

                  That means (1) not getting drawn up in responding to the allegations against Obama (or Hillary, as the case may be), and (2) consistently boxing in these ads and talking points for what they are:  attempts to undermine the debate.

                  Kossacks can help create these posts that put ads like this in a context for journalists.  They can link back to these discussions and add to the comments.

                  Kossacks can contact their local stations and warn them that these stories that may come across the AP wire are in fact political propaganda produced by right-wing funded groups created to undermine the debate.

                  Kossacks can gather information on the organizations and individuals who create these ads.

                  Kossacks can contact people in the Democratic campaign offices to let them know what is going on.

                  Support kossack authors! Buy Framing The Debate...

                  by Jeffrey Feldman on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 10:59:59 AM PDT

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      •  agreed (1+ / 0-)
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        We can't let our guard down. Ever. So even though this is a dumb ad that won't change many minds, we should still be aware of it and ready to respond to its charges.

        Has Obama voted in favor of the death penalty before? Was there something about this bill that had a "poison pill" element to it. Obama is not in favor of gang murders, so I'm sure the Republicans are badly distorting his position here.

        Even with a dumb ad like this, we have to gather the facts to prepare an appropriate response. In that respect I think you are doing a good thing with this diary.

        Old Man - the best McCain attack blog on the web!

        by existenz on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 08:51:58 AM PDT

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  •  Please do not link (15+ / 0-)

    to if you post about this.  

    Despite what may seem like a ridiculous effort, this is exactly the kind of ad that will gain traction--unfortunately--so it is absolutely critical to describe it for what it is: propaganda that uses violent rhetoric.

    Any additional information will be added to the post as it comes in.  Thanks in advance for your help...

  •  Here come the swiftboats (3+ / 0-)
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    You didn't actually think we'd get a break did you?
    They've been waiting and watching.  
    Actually to launching of this group indicates that they think the primaries are about over.  
    It is sad that they had a nice warm up act in Hillary.

  •  which is why we need somebody (1+ / 0-)
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    to unofficially do strident on the edge anti-McCain stuff like this:

    McCain - War Hero or Incompetent Pilot

  •  Eh. This ad seems sorta weak (1+ / 0-)
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    Also, there's been a lot of public discussion about the justness of the death penalty itself in recent years.  I'm unconvinced that linking Obama to death penalty issues will be much help to anti-Obama efforts.

    "You must be the change you wish to see in the world." -Ghandi

    by Triscula on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 08:10:27 AM PDT

    •  Do not be naive (4+ / 0-)
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      This is exactly the approach they took to paint a decorated war veteran as a cowardly goldbricker.

      It has to stop working, or they will continue to do it.

      Before you win, you have to fight. Come fight along with us at TexasKaos.

      by boadicea on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 08:13:11 AM PDT

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      •  The operative words here are "weak" and "trust." (3+ / 0-)
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        Can a man so weak in the war on gangs be trusted in the war on terror?

        Republicans are very consistent. They always attack the patriotism of the Democratic candidate, they always imply that he is weak, and they always suggest that he cannot be trusted.

        I don't discount the importance of violent rhetoric in the general right-wing approach, and anything that links Obama with images of slums, gangs, and black violence is gravy from their perspective, given that his image is so removed from that (thoughtful, warm, professorial, eloquent, even in one newscaster's words, "elegant").

        But I think the core message of this ad, and its importance, is that it is the opening salvo in declaring Obama weak, as all Democrats are weak.

        Specifically weak on crime and against terror. More generally, just weak. Weak as an innate characteristic. Given to effete (weak) liking for lattes and brie and French wine.  Strangers to manly pursuits such as hunting. Incapable of being tough when it comes to jail sentences or standing up to foreign tyrants or handling illegal immigration or taking firm stands and holding to them.

        THis is a central theme in Republican attacks, always. Sometimes overt, sometimes implied, but always there.

        I think the best response would be to get it out in the open and defang it by repetition. I think there should be a bunch of articles as we approach the general, saying over and over: Okay, the geneneral compaign is starting, so the Republicans will attack Obama as unpatriotic, weak, and untrustworthy. Because they always do, no matter who the candidate is. Gee, I wonder how they're going to do it this time?  Hey, look -- there's the first salvo! Kinda feeble, but they'll ramp it up.  It's what they always do.

  •  The ad seems especially weak (3+ / 0-)
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    It builds it up to the point where you think Obama somehow pardoned the murderers personally, only to find out it was a vote on capital punishment.

    This is during a time when Republican George Ryan had suspended the death penalty in illinois because DNA testing was showing that too many on death row were innocent.

    Ryan first gained national attention in the area of capital punishment when, as governor, he declared a moratorium on his state's death penalty in 2000. "We have now freed more people than we have put to death under our system — 13 people have been exonerated and 12 have been put to death. There is a flaw in the system, without question, and it needs to be studied." ... Ultimately, on January 11, 2003, just days before leaving office, Ryan commuted (to "life" terms) the sentences of everyone on or waiting to be sent to Illinois' Death Row — a total of 167 convicts — due to his belief that the death penalty could not be administered fairly.  

    Obama's position is incredibly easy to defend.

    •  Propaganda and violent rhetoric (4+ / 0-)

      doesn't operate on the factual level-it's emotional and hits what people fear.

      Call it lizard brain politics.

      Before you win, you have to fight. Come fight along with us at TexasKaos.

      by boadicea on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 08:15:31 AM PDT

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      •  but it wasn't white people being killed (1+ / 0-)
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        It was all blacks and Hispanics (according to the ad), so the average white voter won't care so much about this issue. And I'm not saying this because race should matter, I'm saying that Americans seem to get worked up about missing white women and don't bat an eye over inner-city violence.

        Anyway, the ad feels very 1990s to me. Americans are not as worried about crime as they used to be. And to link this to Obama's approach to terrorism is pretty iffy.

        I agree the ad will be effective with lizard brain Republicans who would never vote for Obama anyway, but I don't see it as any sort of game-changer.  After all, isn't murder already a death penalty offense in Illinois? Why would they need a new law making "gang murders" a death penalty offense? I'd like to hear more about this specific legislation because the whole story isn't being told.

        Old Man - the best McCain attack blog on the web!

        by existenz on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 08:57:41 AM PDT

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        •  Combo punch (1+ / 0-)
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          First of all, fear of gang violence is a racial construct in a lot of white voters minds, but another question, as a troll diary here yesterday suggested, that Obama isn't man enough to stand up to the terrorists.

          The racial echo will transfer from the gangs, and the emasculization from the rememberered image of war heroes past.

          Before you win, you have to fight. Come fight along with us at TexasKaos.

          by boadicea on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 09:06:55 AM PDT

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    •  No kidding, and this is a Lee Atwater protege. (0+ / 0-)

      He helped with the original Willie Horton ad.  If this is the best they've got, I'm comforted.  The death penalty has been losing support for the last 15 years.  Guess Floyd is stuck in 1988.

    •  i'm not sure this ad is designed to appeal (1+ / 0-)
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      to anyone except the conservative base. It's so simplistic and so CRAZY, I can't imagine it would have any effect on undecideds or independents. I think it's more likely aimed to give the right-wingers (who still aren't enthusiastic about McCain) another reason to vote against Obama. You know, in addition to the fact that he's an anti-semitic Muslim terrorist.

  •  It's a classic attack ad (2+ / 0-)
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    Its look and aesthetic is so dated, it looks like it was ripped from... well, from the '80s when the Willie Horton ad had such an impact.

    I think Obama is changing the look of campaigns with his ads. It's making the classic attack ads unpalatable to more people -- not that this wouldn't work on people who already have some kind of negative opinion of Barack.

    "Are you familiar with the old robot saying: Does not compute?" --- Bender

    by droogie6655321 on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 08:12:03 AM PDT

    •  not so sure about that (7+ / 0-)

      I mean...absolutely: the Obama ads are great stuff.  But I think the situation we're in is sort of a 'when the circus comes to town' dynamic.  Before the primary show comes to a given state, most voters are not really paying attention. So this stuff does catch people by surprise.  And it builds.

      This is the fourth effort to define Obama in violent terms:

      1. terrorist
      1. revenge seeking black man
      1. 1960s violent terrorist
      1. enabler of gang violence

      So this is ongoing and it builds.

      Support kossack authors! Buy Framing The Debate...

      by Jeffrey Feldman on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 08:17:48 AM PDT

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  •  It's started. Period. n/t (1+ / 0-)
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  •  More on Floyd Brown (5+ / 0-)

    And the National Conservative Campaign Fund.

    Edwin Meese, III., Honorary Chairman

    Thomas L. Phillips, Chairman
    D. Jeffrey Hollingsworth, Executive Director
    Michelle Easton, Secretary
    P. Jay Carven, Treasurer
    Marjory G. Ross, Assistant Treasurer

    T. Kenneth Cribb, Carol G. Dawson, Frank J. Donatelli, Daniel D. Faoro, Thomas A. Fuentes, J.A. "Jay" Parker, Ronald E. Robinson, Randal C. Teague

    National Advisory Board
    George A. Alcorn, Sr., Gary Aldrich, John M. Belcher, L. Brent Bozell III, Floyd Brown, Angela "Bay" Buchanan, Ann Coulter, Ronald F. Docksai, Alan Dye, Rich Eichler, Tony Fabrizio, George Gilder, Michael P. Gorman, Patrick Gorman, Phil Hixon, Donald P. Hodel, Terrence P. Jeffrey, John Lenczowski, G. Gordon Liddy, James C. Miller III, Brad O'Leary, Randall Phillips, Fred Potter, Roger Ream, Ralph Reed Jr., Alfred S. Regnery, William Bradford Reynolds, Bret Schundler, Frank Shakespeare, Howard Segermark, John K. Singlaub, Mark Skousen, R. Emmett Tyrrell, Faith Ryan Whittlesey

    Before you win, you have to fight. Come fight along with us at TexasKaos.

    by boadicea on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 08:28:55 AM PDT

  •  I wonder how these victims' families feel (2+ / 0-)
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    about their loved ones being used in such a disgusting and dishonest attack.

    If this ad ends up getting much media coverage, there's potential for a great deal of backlash. The media would probably attempt to contact the families for comment (which is awful unto itself). Now, how do you think they'd respond, and which candidate this election do you think that victims-of-gang-violence-who-live-in-urban-Chicago are likely to support?

  •  Well, at least now I know (1+ / 0-)
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    what that troll was referring to the other day when he or she started going off about how all the murders in Chicago were somehow Obama's fault.

    Lousy Bowlers for Obama

    by paintitblue on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 08:44:32 AM PDT

  •  Some factual info on Obama's (3+ / 0-)
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    No extra penalty for gang association

    Most people like the idea of a politician who votes for individual rights, but the fact that Obama could do so and still maintain the respect of law enforcement shows his political skills. Obama voted against a proposal to criminalize contact with a gang for any convicts on probation or out on bail. In 2001, Obama opposed making gang activity eligible for the death penalty. "There's a strong overlap between gang affiliation and young men of color.... I think it's problematic for them to be singled out as more likely to receive the death penalty for carrying out certain acts than are others who do the same thing." In 1999, Obama opposed mandatory adult prosecution for youth who discharge a firearm nea a school, declaring, "There is really no proof or indication that automatic transfers and increased penalties and adult penalties for juvenile offenses have, in fact, proven to be more effective in reducing juvenile crime or cutting back on recidivism."

  •  We should do a spoof of the ad and (0+ / 0-)

    push it up on youtube.

  •  I sent (1+ / 0-)
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    you an email with my information on it.  Let me know if I can help.

  •  and more Floyd Brown info (3+ / 0-)
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    where he blogs with his wife Mary Beth Brown

    and his own website

    and his marketing/consulting firm Excellentia

  •  Add Christopher and Christine Carmouche (5+ / 0-)

    to your list of right wing characters involved in this operation. The photo banner on the Exposeobama website comes from c4strategies, inc. which is owned by the Carmouches.

    The Carmouches got their start with the Christian Coalition and are now heavy into creating faux conservative movements online.

    I don't have time to add links but here is a list of Carmouche affiliates and websites: - now defunct

    Grasstops USA - a sham 501(c)(4) that specializes in astroturf grassroots campaigns. Website is

    C4Strategies Inc. - commercial operation. Website was is somehow linked to c4strategies

    "I feared the worst when I saw that butterscotch incident."

    by Mrs Panstreppon on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 01:56:55 PM PDT

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