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Thanks to all the Hillary folks who are swallowing the hurt they must feel, and coming on board for a larger goal...

I may not have been a Hillary fan, but I do feel and understand your pain to an extent.  I was one of the few who actually admitted out loud my undying love for Dukakis, and my heart was broken as I watched that campaign go down in flames.  I was smart enough to recognize then however (albeit grudgingly), as I am now, that it was as much the campaign itself that flamed out as it was the Rethug machine that killed it.

For those whose heart's are breaking now tho', who feel like they've lost something important, this is something to keep in mind, and hold close to your heart: "True gender equality" is less concrete and more ephemeral than achieving a specific goal or title.  I believe, and have always believed, and hope you can come to do so as well, that gender equality is what you make of it.

Follow me across the divide...

I don't believe for a second that I am any less capable than a man in many things that matter.  I humbly defer to men in upper body strength, though I'm sure there are plenty of women who don't have to do so, but I'll match my mind, and a goodly portion of my skills against one any day, and hold my head up proudly.  I own a business that is 99.9% male owned and male worked.  I not only own it, but I work it.  I'm a "freak" in the world I occupy, and many men in the field have trouble comprehending that fact that I'm capable (and more), even in the face of watching me do it. :)  But I don't go out of the way to shout "Look at ME, I'm a WOMAN doing this!" - Like it or not, that alienates far more folks, male AND female, than it engenders respect.  Haven't you noticed that the ones that crow about it loudest, and use it an excuse, rationale, etc., are often the ones that are less able to actually DO it?  Whatever it is?

Titles aren't what give us equality.  Strength, calm, and the ability to simply DO IT is what gives us equality.  Screw the titles.  We could elect a woman to the Presidency, and she could still turn out to be an absolute imbecile (NOT talking about Hillary, just in general terms).  What's the point of claiming superiority over titles, "Nanny Nanny Boo Boo I got there first" - claiming achievement, if the end result is that we've then set back the belief that a woman can do the job?  The more we scream about gender, precedents, inequality, ability, women united, etc., the more we draw attention to the GENDER, and the more we take away attention from whether we can actually get it done or not.  Ya know?  

I prefer "stealthing" my way in rather than charging in and waving a virtual strap-on and pretending to be a man, shattering glass ceilings whether they need be shattered or not.  "Stealthing" is better - Just like we're doing in the House & Senate, Governorships, Business, etc.  Just slowly infiltrating, doing the job, until folks look up and say, "Hey!  Y'all have been here this whole time?"   It's what I did in my business, and both my chosen careers.  I didn't announce it, I didn't make a gender issue of it, I simply DID IT.

Would you (virtually you, not literally you) rather be known as the first Woman President, regardless of your abilities?  Or one of the best Presidents in history, who happened to be a woman, period?  My gender is not an issue to me.  Again, if it needs to be done, and I'm good at it, I simply do it.

Don't dwell too much on the titles.  We'll get there, we just shouldn't make the TITLE be the end all to be all.  Be VERY happy with the fact that Hillary was considered an actual, valid candidate, and not a just a figurehead ALA Ferraro.  THAT's achievement in and of itself.  The other campaign was better organized, and more of a ground swell.  It happens.  The end result doesn't lessen women.  Only actions, and attitudes leading up to, and actions and attitudes afterwards can do that.

Be of good cheer and welcome aboard!

Thanks for all you did for Hillary, and all you will do for Obama.

Cheers!

SophK

Originally posted to sophistry makes me tired on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 02:52 PM PDT.

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  •  Tips, rants, whatever... (3+ / 0-)
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    kpardue, LNK, bottsimons

    I'm happy, but I have empathy.  I hope the folks that are hurting can feel better.

    "...That's wonderful. But I need a majority..." Presidential Candidate Adlai Stevenson in 1956, when told that he had all the "thinking people" on his side.

    by sophistry makes me tired on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 02:53:28 PM PDT

  •  POTUS (2+ / 0-)

    Is not a job you can stealthly win.  Being the first woman/black/hispanic is a big deal.

    I do think the patriotic thing to do is to critique my country. How else do you make a country better but by pointing out its flaws? Bill Maher

    by gtghawaii on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 02:59:54 PM PDT

    •  I agree... (0+ / 0-)

      But I think sometimes we scream too loudly about WHAT we are, and WHO we are gets lost in the mix.  I have no doubts we'll get there, and that there are many worthy candidates who are fully capable of doing just as good of a job at it as men.  I just hate that we have to make that comparison. :)

      "...That's wonderful. But I need a majority..." Presidential Candidate Adlai Stevenson in 1956, when told that he had all the "thinking people" on his side.

      by sophistry makes me tired on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 03:03:07 PM PDT

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  •  An interesting Diary ... (1+ / 0-)
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    sophistry makes me tired

    ...with much about which I agree.

    The end result doesn't lessen women.

    I think there is some truth to this. But there is still sexist crap that needs to be dealt with. The double-standard when it comes to matters of anger, for example: OK for men, not for women, as denoted in terms like "shrillery." And the sexist epithets that burgeoned during this campaign, including more than a few from so-called progressives. Moreover, you don't have to agree with Bill Clinton that the media was overly favorable to Obama to note that many pundithugs were overly unfavorable on sexist grounds against Hillary.

    I haven't even scratched the surface.

    Sexism still exists, indeed, it thrives, which doesn't mean that no strides have been made.  

    Like a cyclone, imperialism spins across the globe; militarism crushes peoples and sucks their blood like a vampire. K. Liebknecht

    by Meteor Blades on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 03:04:13 PM PDT

    •  I agree... (1+ / 0-)
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      Meteor Blades

      I just wish we could stop all the chest thumping "I AM WOMAN, AND I DESERVE THIS BECAUSE OF IT" type things.  I just think that type of chest thumping brings on attacks of a sexist crap nature.

      Obama was essentially colorless when this all began, back in the stone ages, and the more it was made an issue, the more attacks were directed at a color.

      I hope for a day when equality means we don't have to point out that we're a woman, or an AA, or whatever, because afterall, equality allows for no differences, it's equal.  Not separate but equal; Equal with a capitol "E".  Parity!

      Hey, I can have "pie in the sky" dreams, right? :)

      Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1)
      e·qual·i·ty /ɪˈkwɒlɪti/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[i-kwol-i-tee] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
      –noun, plural -ties. 1. the state or quality of being equal; correspondence in quantity, degree, value, rank, or ability.  

      1. uniform character, as of motion or surface.  
      1. Mathematics. a statement that two quantities are equal; equation.  

      [Origin: 1350–1400; ME < L aequālitāt- (s. of aequālitās). See equal, -ity]

      —Synonyms 1. equivalency, parity, correspondence, sameness; justice, fairness, impartiality.
      Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1)
      Based on the Random House Unabridged Dictionary, © Random House, Inc. 2006.

      "...That's wonderful. But I need a majority..." Presidential Candidate Adlai Stevenson in 1956, when told that he had all the "thinking people" on his side.

      by sophistry makes me tired on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 03:12:40 PM PDT

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  •  Equality? (1+ / 0-)
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    Equality

    Equality is the public recognition, effectively expressed in institutions and manners, of the principle that an equal degree of attention is due to the needs of all human beings.
       Simone Weil (1909-43), French philosopher, mystic. "Draft for a Statement of Human Obligations" (published in Selected Essays, ed. by Richard Rees, 1962).

    The Columbia Dictionary of Quotations -------------

    Bella Abzug (1920-1998) said, sometime earlier than 1987 when I saw this on a (male) senior executive's desk:

    • Our struggle today is not to have a female Einstein get appointed as an assistant professor. It is for a woman schlemiel to get as quickly promoted as a male schlemiel.

    Faaaabulous collection of Bella Abzug quotations:
    http://womenshistory.about.com/...

    In 1970, Bella Abzug was elected to the U.S. Congress from New York. In Congress, she was especially noted for her work for the Equal Rights Amendment, national day care centers, ending sex discrimination, and working mothers' priorities.

    http://womenshistory.about.com/...

    Best Diary of the Year? http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/2/23/03912/3990

    by LNK on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 03:25:25 PM PDT

  •  About women, humor (1+ / 0-)
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    Women

    I repeat, sir, that in whatever position you place a woman she is an ornament to society and a treasure to the world. As a sweetheart, she has few equals and no superiors; as a cousin, she is convenient; as a wealthy grandmother with an incurable distemper, she is precious; as a wet-nurse, she has no equal among men. What, sir, would the people of the earth be without woman? They would be scarce, sir, almighty scarce.
       Mark Twain (1835-1910), U.S. author. "Woman-an Opinion," speech, to Washington Correspondents' Club (published in Mark Twain's Speeches, ed. by Albert Bigelow Paine, 1923).

    The Columbia Dictionary of Quotations

    Best Diary of the Year? http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/2/23/03912/3990

    by LNK on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 03:44:36 PM PDT

  •  If this is true ... (1+ / 0-)
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    sophistry makes me tired

    Electing a President because she rocks our socks, and realizing AFTER that fact that she's a woman...

    Then, she must be one masculine chick.

    Remember there's a big difference between kneeling down and bending over. ~ Frank Zappa

    by alliedoc on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 04:03:40 PM PDT

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