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This one is, I suppose, about human nature rather than politics.

I am fairly outraged myself at the current FISA "compromise".  But the bricks that are being shat here because Senator Obama hasn't forced members of the House to vote it down are getting to me.

There are legal limits to what kinds of arm-twisting a member of one house of Congress can do to members of the other, and there is no reason for anyone to believe that Senator Obama is failing to do everything he can.

Remember the Jeremiah Wright hoohaw?  I do - it was the initial speech Obama made in response to that that made me decide I was going to vote for the man.  There was a lot of kerfuffle about that - that he wasn't doing anything, and what he was doing wasn't fast enough.

There is STILL a lot of crap going down about the "secret Muslim" canard.  My apologies to our Muslim cohort, but for the people who keep talking that up, it IS a canard.  Muslims around the world are stating the case very calmly - some of his ancestry is Muslim and his childhood included Muslim influences, but when he was of an age to choose for himself, he chose Christian.  Me, I think we should take the man's own word for his faith, funny name or not.

The Midwest floods - ten minutes after the news broke, there were diaries up calling for Obama's head because he wasn't on air ranting about the wastefulness of failing to pay for infrastructure repairs.  Go on his website and check what they were preparing - a much more practical use of his time, I think.

I could continue for a fairly long time on this, you know.  Before I get to the right-wing idiocies.

I think Senator Obama will be present when the vote on FISA comes up in the Senate, and I think he is and will be doing everything he can within the scope of what is legal and honorable to prevent its passing.

Originally posted to loggersbrat on Fri Jun 20, 2008 at 10:09 AM PDT.

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  •  Troll rate me into oblivion? (11+ / 0-)

    I'm tired of the demands for IMMEDIATE response.  Only a few of us have any idea of what's going on behind the scenes when it comes right down to it - and I don't hear any of them screaming.

    •  No, just a tip. (4+ / 0-)

      I agree, it's silly. And childish. And is the kind of crap that gets used against DKos.

      Here - have a headache on me.

      "When fascism comes to America it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross." Sinclair Lewis

      by MsWings on Fri Jun 20, 2008 at 10:14:45 AM PDT

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    •  A tip and a rec from me. (2+ / 0-)
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      mpwife, RadioGirl

      Enacted laws can be rescinded.  House speakers and majority leaders can be replaced.  Darn right I hate losing on this FISA fight, but if I haven't been killed in the fight you can rest assured I'm returning to fight again one day.

      Here's hoping this is virtual aceteminophen for you.

      If we're not willing to boldly refute the lies, the lies will stand as truth. (-6.75, -6.72)

      by cn4st4datrees on Fri Jun 20, 2008 at 10:28:42 AM PDT

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    •  To the contrary, this is one of the few sane (1+ / 0-)
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      chimene

      posts I have seen here over the past few days. Do people not get that Barack Obama has spoken against and voted against telecom immunity before, but more to the point, are people here so friggin' stupid that they do not understand that Barack Obama is a United States Senator? He is not a member of the House of Representatives. He'll address this when it comes up in the Senate.

      I swear, this place is so loony sometimes.

  •  I think we're use to... (2+ / 0-)
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    loggersbrat, birdbrain64

    rather then hitting back, the ignoring of the "problem" in the past.  

    I give Obama credit, he's come back against attacks and making moves that have been impressive and not being shown as being vicious.  He's hitting the high road but still responding in kind.

    And as far as the Muslim issue.  Why does his religious matter, even though he's not Muslim...unless the first amendment means freedom of religion only for the Christians.  

    •  That his wife and children obviously adore him (1+ / 0-)
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      matters a great deal more.  That is a true sign of what kind of a man you're dealing with.

      Unfortunately, there are a great many people who view religion through a my-way-or-the-highway lense.

      •  And I can only hope our country comes to its (1+ / 0-)
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        senses and realizes how awful it is to mix religion into political races.  Nobody likes to have their religion disrespected, maligned, or misrepresented.  It's always viewed as a personal attack upon the believer, even when it's the dogma, not the person, that's being criticized.

        Way too many people have forgotten how crucial it is that we keep religion and government separate.

        If we're not willing to boldly refute the lies, the lies will stand as truth. (-6.75, -6.72)

        by cn4st4datrees on Fri Jun 20, 2008 at 10:33:19 AM PDT

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  •  passing the advil.... (2+ / 0-)
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    i believe we've become too acculturated to microwaves, high-speed internet, and  24/7 access to each other.

    if it's not done NOW! RIGHT NOW! we're all failures.

    i agree with you, loggersbrat.  

    my first boss used to say "patience is a flower that grows not in every garden..." i'm beginning to think it's a flower that's gone extinct.

    time to start putting valium in the drinking water supplies.

    "This year, it's on like Donkey Kong." --dkos user PresentMoment

    by birdbrain64 on Fri Jun 20, 2008 at 10:30:16 AM PDT

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