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Barack Obama...? Nope, Ronald Reagan.  Many Kossacks will view this video with some pause, I think it is effective and actually parallels well with the DKos story from yesterday 1980 Redux.

I know that Ronald Reagan is an anathma to many Kossacks, but the truth is that in many ways the torchbearer of the Reagan Revolution is not John McCain, but is Barack Obama.  I am not claiming a one-to-one similarity by any means, but the truth is that this election cycle is about a break from the policies and politics of the past and using what is best about America to move us forward.

The fact is now the Republicans are not the party of Ronald Reagan and haven't been for 8 years.  They are the party of Karl Rove and Dick Cheney.  I don't know for sure, but I actually think Reagan would have found wire tapping and laptop seizres a horrible policy, tantamount to totalitarianism, which undeniably he loathed. Yes, he sucked on environmental issues, many of his economic policies were poor, but he was in fact very pragmatic as evidenced by the fact he was willing to talk to the Soviet Union.  Who knows how Reagan would govern  in the face of this current world order.  I am not claiming he would be a good President, let me make that clear, but I actually think he wouold find more affinity with Obama than McCain.

Originally posted to Gangster Octopus on Mon Aug 04, 2008 at 09:56 AM PDT.

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  •  Tips or Criticisms (6+ / 0-)

    I know how loathed Ronald Reagan is here, but, please be gentle.

  •  um. no. (1+ / 0-)
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    Barack Obama is nothing like Ronald Reagan.

    by GlowNZ on Mon Aug 04, 2008 at 09:58:46 AM PDT

  •  In other words, EXACTLY what we need (1+ / 0-)
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    in a President.  I'm not worried. Americans are generally stupid, but even they can't miss this opportunity.

    "The US loves democracy ... in countries that are strategically irrelevant" -- Fareed Zakharia

    by gtnoah on Mon Aug 04, 2008 at 09:58:54 AM PDT

  •  Yeah. Ronnie was all about the law. (3+ / 0-)
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    shirah, limpidglass, MariaWr

    Oh, wait.
    It was his administration that subverted the will of Congress and the law by selling weapons to the Iranian government. Then they laundered the money and using it to fund Salvadoran terrorists who were massacring rural teachers and health care workers, once more breaking the law and subverting the intent of Congress.

    IOKIYAR, I guess.

  •  More importanrtly, who would Lincoln vote for? (3+ / 0-)
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    followyourbliss, MariaWr, Alohilani

    I think we all know the answer to that one.

    "The US loves democracy ... in countries that are strategically irrelevant" -- Fareed Zakharia

    by gtnoah on Mon Aug 04, 2008 at 10:02:19 AM PDT

  •  Reagan was a successful politician (2+ / 0-)
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    shirah, teemel

    We can hate his policies or despair that people didn't see through the slick "great communicator"  media creation, but the truth is that Reagan has become the Republican benchmark.  This ad might be a good ad to target Reagan Republicans and Reagan Democrats.  But it risks alienating the Democratic base that views Reagan through far less rosy glasses.  It also subjects Obama to the "presumptuous" attack -- as in "How dare he compare himself to Ronald Reagan!!!!"

    What might work for Obama is to have Ron Reagan -- the president's son and a liberal commentator, make some sort of an ad for Obama on the celebrity issue -- about how they said the same of his father, etc.

    I'm not sure Obama can do it for himself without appearing to compare himself to a "successful" president before becoming president -- plays too much to the narrative that McCain is already trying to frame.

    •  I really like that idea. Let Ron do the talking (1+ / 0-)
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      instead of Obama.  In general, and this is a bit OT, I wonder where are the Obama surrogates?  Where are the people who will stand up for him and voice support for him and say the things he can't say.  During the primary, everyone said "Oh, the surrogates are afraid of the Clintons".  What is the excuse now?

  •  Reagan had no problem (1+ / 0-)
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    with illegally selling missiles to a sworn enemy of the US and using the profits to illegally fund Latin American narcoterrorists. He was lucky to avoid impeachment.

    it was his lawlessness, and the fact that his lawlessness went unpunished, that led us inexorably to George W. Bush. First it was small wars and small-scale war games. Now it's big, unilateral, illegal wars. It's a logical progression.

  •  I can't believe so many are missing the point (4+ / 0-)
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    shirah, teemel, MariaWr, Alohilani

    This ad is quite frankly, genius, and as Andrew Sullivan pointed out, it exactly the kind of thing we should hope goes viral.

    This ad targets Republican voters that might be thinking Obama because they're fed up with the current state of their party but are still worried about the inexperience meme the Repubs throw around, and says -- Guess what?  Everybody thought the same thing about the guy you hold in the highest esteem; there's no need to worry here.  Idealism and hope and appealing do our nobler ideals does matter.

    This isn't about our personal feelings about Ronald Reagan.  This is about outreach.  This is about bringing people over the fence and into our Big Tent.  this is about assuaging fears that the Republicans are working very hard right now to stoke.

    This is about reminding people of all political mindsets that we as a nation are at our greatest when we are working together for a bright, shining greater good, not when we are being divided by hatemongers and fear.

  •  look before we get out of hand here (0+ / 0-)

    we all oathed reagan's policies, we just want someone on our side as popular as
    him and as successful as him at putting through a new agenda

  •  Let's hope there's one more parallel... (0+ / 0-)

    On Nov. 4, 1980, Reagan won 45 states.

    I'm guessing 45 might be a bit out of Obama's reach, but what do you folks think the maximum number of states is that Obama could win?

    On Nov. 4, 2008, Sen. Obama will win __ states.

    I'll go as high as 36, assuming everything would break his way (NC, VA, GA, etc).

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