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Democrats are constantly lagging behind in defining the issues in a light that benefits them.  They constantly let the "liberal tax raiser" theme go on unchallenged, and they fight back with wordy, hard to comprehend platitudes and arguments.

It's time to fight back HARD.  John McCain is a tax raiser for the middle class!  Compared to Barack Obama, McCain will raise your taxes!!

Source: Washington Post

It's simple.  Don't say that "Obama's going to give more of a tax break than McCain."  It doesn't have the same scaremongering appeal that "McCain's going to raise taxes for the middle class (compared to Obama)."  Start releasing advertisements calling McCain a tax-raiser, and force him to defend himself.

Jesus.  I'm sick of getting beat on this tax stuff.  The Obama campaign has lately ratcheted it up a notch, but they're still a notch behind.  Ruin any trust McCain has with the middle class.  There are so many conservatives and independents that are still latched on to this notion that they're going to have higher taxes with a Democrat in office.  These people could care less what the oil companies have to pay.  They don't trust government one bit, and for all they care, the oil companies shouldn't have to pay any taxes, either.  They care about their immediate household, and that is all.  And in that regard, John McCain is going to tax them far more than Barack Obama.

People are mad at the government.  They don't want ANYONE'S money going there.  Mostly, they care about their own money, but making the oil companies pay more taxes isn't an argument that's going to gain any traction with them.

Please, Mr. Axelrod.  Frame this issue right already.  John McCain is a tax raiser for the middle class.

Originally posted to JohnnyCougar on Wed Aug 13, 2008 at 05:51 PM PDT.

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Comment Preferences

  •  Rec if you think Obama campaign should do this (14+ / 0-)
    •  great point (1+ / 0-)
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      The Low Road Express: So low, an ant would be too big for it.

      by sluggahjells on Wed Aug 13, 2008 at 05:55:03 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  These voters only understand a binary world (2+ / 0-)
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        mel70, okiemann

        A taxer is a taxer.  If you want to tax oil companies, it means you want to tax them, too.  If you want to cut taxes (even if it isn't for them) they trust you more because they think you are a tax cutter.  They don't understand the nuance of cutting taxes for the poor and raising them for the rich.

        DON'T EVER campaign on raising taxes even if it is only on oil companies.  Obama should stop talking about raising ANY taxes, and start talking about how McCain wants to raise taxes compared to him on most of the families in this nation.

        •  we'll see how the results play out if Obama (0+ / 0-)

          was right to be honesty about this, or just say who he was specifically going to raise taxes for. It's just refreshing to see that, and even better is the actual figures of their plan.

          The Low Road Express: So low, an ant would be too big for it.

          by sluggahjells on Wed Aug 13, 2008 at 09:30:42 PM PDT

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    •  I think it's important to point out the average (0+ / 0-)

      tax cut, too.  McCain's people will try to make it sound like his plan is better because the average tax cut is higher.  But of course, that big cut doesn't go to the "average" tax payer (which is how they want people to interpret it).

      Obama's plan gives distributes the money more fairly - and doesn't increase the deficit the same way that McCain's would.  

      Now, go spread some peace, love and understanding. Use force if necessary. - Phil N DeBlanc

      by lineatus on Wed Aug 13, 2008 at 07:12:01 PM PDT

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    •  They Will - I'm certain of it (0+ / 0-)

      It makes no sense not to.

  •  these need to be printed out (3+ / 0-)
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    sc kitty, moose67, mel70

    and delivered to every home.

  •  This is what bugs me (1+ / 0-)
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    Is a diary that opens by telling us all how stupid Obama is, or how sick and tired the diarist is, or how we are all collectively doing the wrong thing and "need to do the right thing."

    The problem for me is that there's some very sane -- VERY good stuff in here and it puts me off.

    I considered just moving on, keeping my negative yap shut.  But I reached to hit the "cancel" button and a voice said, "goddam it, now you're just being a have a right to say what you know you want to say!"

    So here's the deal for me.  From now on, when I see diaries that suggest good techniques, that volunteer a campaign strategy, or that sends up a box of ideas that I think are good ... I rec it.

    If it opens by telling me or anyone else how tired they are, or how disappointed they are, or how watching 35 hours of C fucking NN has made them dismal ...

    it gets nothing from me.

    Starting after this rec.

  •  John McCain (1+ / 0-)
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    and all the republicans are tax raisers fore the next generation, and the one after that.

    The worst form of tyranny. At least with a brutal totalitarian regime you could be overthrown by the people or assassinated by a competitor.

    Single Tax is Justice

    by moneybags on Wed Aug 13, 2008 at 06:08:43 PM PDT

  •  Looks really great but I don't think either (0+ / 0-)

    candidate will get what he wants.  McCain will never get the large tax decreases for the wealthy with a Democratic House and Senate and I don't think Obama will be able to get the increases for the wealthy with all the Blue Dog Democrats in the House, as much as I would like to see it happen for Obama.

    Democrats support the troops. Republicans support the war.

    by orca43 on Wed Aug 13, 2008 at 06:09:55 PM PDT

  •  the game is about oxygen (0+ / 0-)

    McCain needs attention, to gain traction in the national poll.

    Obama has being in Hawaii for 6 days (i think) and in those 6 days McCain has not being able to get traction.

    he is know playing the international Firefighter trying to usurp Condi and others. trying to prove himself he will overreach and the fail.

    next week Obama will come back and he will suck what is left of oxygen in the air.McCain would need to go back to his mean-girl antics to get attention.

    for the last three months from Maj to Now Obama has being leading in every single national poll (expect one poll USAtoday/Gallup)

    relax they know what they are doing

  •  Also bottom line (0+ / 0-)

    Both are likely to require more government borrowing, Obama's might just be tax neutral if economic growth increases the overall tax take. McCain's reduction in government income makes it much more difficult for his plan to achieve a balanced budget.

    This gives Obama a great chance to empahasize "I do not want my two daughters paying for Republican mistakes until they get Social Security so the highest paid, including me, can pay less now."

    Does Magna Carta mean nothing to you? Did she die in vain?

    by Lib Dem FoP on Wed Aug 13, 2008 at 06:11:47 PM PDT

  •  here's more (1+ / 0-)
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    Reaganomics / Bushonomics / McCainonomics

    How the Rich Get Richer --
       Free Lunch: How the Wealthiest Americans Enrich Themselves at Government Expense (and Stick You With the Bill). by David Cay Johnston,  2007

           "Since the Reagan Administration, its become the unstated policy to create federal laws and regulations that favor the already wealthy and politically connected.
           David Cay Johnston explains the giveaways, tax breaks,  and a whole host of subsidies that have created the Rich getting richer and the middle to low incomes earners getting poorer."

    40 min NPR interview


    10 Reasons America's Two-Income Families Aren't What You Think

    Middle-class income doesn't buy middle-class lifestyle

    we just need to hammer it home to the low-info voters who think that the repubs speak to family values... the repub tax policies have hurt and are destroying the "family."

    Boot out Bushbot Barrett, donate to Jane Dyer SC-03 (vet & union member)

    by sc kitty on Wed Aug 13, 2008 at 06:12:48 PM PDT

  •  September's coming. (2+ / 0-)
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    sc kitty, mel70

    They are getting there, slowly but surely, and very methodically. I think they are doing it just right, given it's the Olympics and people won't be paying attention until Sept.  Based on the last several ads they've rolled out, I trust they will make these and many other points as well.

    Thank you, Howard Dean!

    by Ruth in OR on Wed Aug 13, 2008 at 06:15:17 PM PDT

  •  you should cite the source of your graphic (0+ / 0-)

    Leges sine Moribus vanae

    by D Wreck on Wed Aug 13, 2008 at 06:24:51 PM PDT

  •  What is the source of the graphic (0+ / 0-)

    I am going to pass it on to the repub relatives who will immediately question the source.

    "I don't do cowering" Barack Obama

    by okiemann on Wed Aug 13, 2008 at 06:39:08 PM PDT

  •  This is all fecking ridiculous anyway... (0+ / 0-)

    since we have a $500+ billion deficit. Taxes will be raised. We should be calling McSame on the tired, Republican lie that we can cut taxes and balance the budget.

    When the credit card bills start piling up, you don't deal with them by taking a new job at a lesser income while spending more.

    Even the average low-information American voter can do the simple maths this requires.


    -7.88 -8,77 Just a wine sipping, brie eating, $6 coffee drinking, Prius driving, over educated, liberal, white, activist, male New Englander for Barack Obama.

    by EquationDoc on Wed Aug 13, 2008 at 06:44:57 PM PDT

    •  Obama feeds into the myth... (0+ / 0-)

      that government services are free.  It could be that he can't go agains this, but who exactly is he fooling.

      And people who make the kind of money he is talking about raising taxes on, have ways to avoid paying them.  That kind of salary buys a lot of tax avoidance help.

      The down side of playing this game is that

      "Republican are the party of tax relief and fiscal disaster.  You pay your taxes at the gas pump."

      That should be his slogan, not "I cut more taxes."

      •  You also pay your taxes... (0+ / 0-)

        when you use your devalued dollar to buy pretty much anything.

        I prefer this approach too, because it attacks the free lunch fallacies (and fantasies) upon which the Republican platform is anchored. Unfortunately, this approach probably requires the average voter to think a little more than they are capable of.

        (And no, I rarely underestimate the thought level of the average American voter.)


        -7.88 -8,77 Just a wine sipping, brie eating, $6 coffee drinking, Prius driving, over educated, liberal, white, activist, male New Englander for Barack Obama.

        by EquationDoc on Thu Aug 14, 2008 at 10:00:26 AM PDT

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  •  Nice Graph... I saved this image n/t (0+ / 0-)

    I'm Exxon John and I approve this message---McCain's Scumbags

    by Obamacrat on Wed Aug 13, 2008 at 07:08:19 PM PDT

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