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Members of my white republican family are very excited about McCain's choice for VP, Sarah Palin. She's a straight talker, blah, blah, blah.

The republican females are especially delighted. And once news broke of Palin's teenage daughter being pregnant and unwed they all rose up in chorus to declare that the families of politicians should be off limits. Then, out of the other side of their mouths, they talked about what a great symbol of morality this unwed, teenager's pregnancy is for those who support the pro-life "movement."

So, for a few minutes, everything at the Labor Day family get together was rainbows and kittens until I asked this question of my family:

Would you be saying the same thing if the unwed, pregnant teenager was one of Barack Obama's African American daughters?

Que sound of crickets ... or is silence to such a question the sound racism makes? <snark>

Originally posted to warmmidwest on Tue Sep 02, 2008 at 10:00 AM PDT.

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  •  i see what you're saying (0+ / 0-)

    but its the game we play.

    i like, if anyone saw larry king's skeleton last nite, how ed schultz mentioned that this kind of thing seems really strange from the morality sector of conservatives. i think he made a cogent statement of how gardeners have pretty gardens.

    obama should stay out of this, like he has been doing, even taking it off the table, that is smart politically.

    hopefully the msm and people are able to see the juxtaposition this whole situation really is.

    or not... i wouldn't bet on it.

    the talking points are getting absolutely retarded, more like retarted if you know what i mean. i just hope, emphasis on hope, that this gets illuminated to the fullest extent...

    "We know Wham's songs are great, and we believe in presenting them in such a fashion that everybody knows it." -George Michael

    by jaylong on Tue Sep 02, 2008 at 10:13:49 AM PDT

  •  Good on you! (2+ / 0-)
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    Lexicon, TomP

    Then again, a lot of white racists (including those at the New York Times), are publicly standing up for their own while quietly rejecting her for not being "a credit to her race." Prepare for your folks to turn on Palin in a Tuscaloosa minute.

    Thank Marx, racism in America cuts both ways...

    Founder and CFO, The Giddiyap Society.

    by Trotsky the Horse on Tue Sep 02, 2008 at 10:21:15 AM PDT

  •  Excellent point. (2+ / 0-)
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    Lexicon, Amber6541

    If it were  black woman, we'd being hearing all sorts of racist bs, and maybe even from Sarah Palin herself.  But when it happens to white folk in the suburbs, it's all okay.

    "The answer is to end our reliance on carbon-based fuels." Al Gore, 7/17/08

    by TomP on Tue Sep 02, 2008 at 10:25:40 AM PDT

    •  Or, (2+ / 0-)
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      Lexicon, TomP

      we'd be hearing "But what do you expect, that's how black people are."

      The polite expression for a slut in Victorian society was: "No better than she should be." No wonder Kossacks want to leave this story alone. It says things about "their people" they'd rather not think about.

      Founder and CFO, The Giddiyap Society.

      by Trotsky the Horse on Tue Sep 02, 2008 at 10:34:42 AM PDT

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  •  I'm surprised (2+ / 0-)
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    Thanks for the rec TomP!

    I hope this point gains some traction - but only if it expands the consciousness of the debate, not just for the sake of finger pointing, if you know what I mean. We need to talk about this stuff.

    Honesty is the secret ingredient of confidence.

    by warmmidwest on Tue Sep 02, 2008 at 10:28:15 AM PDT

  •  Very good point (2+ / 0-)
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    Lexicon, Amber6541

    If one of Obama's daughters was older and got pregnant, there would be all kinds of questions about his judgment as a parent in leaving his kids 'alone to raise themselves' during this long campaign.

  •  well of course you are right. (0+ / 0-)

    but you left out what happened after the silence.  More silence? New subject.

    Did anything about your point sink in?

    However, this is precisely the line we should take in private conversations with on the fence voters.  

    Obama can't and won't bring this up, but I think it is good strategy to ask the question, "If Obama's teenage daughter were pregnant, how would that reflect on his parenting?"

    The planet is heartbroken.

    by fernan47 on Tue Sep 02, 2008 at 02:54:07 PM PDT

  •  Going to Rec for Bigger Picture (0+ / 0-)

    Though I know, especially after New Yorker Gate, we probably won't have this conversation.

    In our anti-racism work, this is what we ask allies to do: go into your environments and talk about it, bring food for thought to those you deal with on a daily basis.

    Good luck, and thank you.

    We should also bring up that the Palins at least had the CHOICE to choose to have their babies, and they want to deny millions of others that right.

    Drinking Belvi lemon drops in solidarity with the C&J Party since 2004. http://i-dreamed-i-was.livejournal.com/6105.html

    by Lexicon on Tue Sep 02, 2008 at 03:43:09 PM PDT

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