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So, thanks to a spotlight and magnifying glass (nice combination, try it sometime) being put on Wasilla, AK, we've been treated to details on what kind of Vice President or even President Sarah Palin would be.

Lets make rape victims pay for rape kits!
Lets make them pay for the investigation too.

We should make all victims pay for DNA testing and investigation costs.

Lets extend that to other crimes, law inforcement activity, and hell, why not judicial proceedings? It all costs money you know...

I read Scout Finch's front page diary today, "Justice...Maverick Style." and thought about it a bit.

What kind of person makes a rape victim pay for a rape kit? The same kind of person that cuts finding for special needs services.

What about children who are victims of incest? Would you ask the suspect family to pay for the rape kit? How about a poor or migrant family that can't afford it.

This all ties into the argument I've seen made for years; that a major aim of the Bush administration, and Republicans at large is to eliminate or shrink the middle class and enrich the already rich.

You're creating a whole new class of victims here, and enabling a whole new class of criminals. Criminals will better be able to target poor families and individuals that could not afford to pay for rape kits. Why bother targeting the well off when you can walk into a slum and pick off the already vulnerable at little to no risk to yourself?

Extend the logic of this further; make all victims pay the costs of investigations. Everything costs money after all.  Robberies, shootings, everything requires an up-front payment.

What about crimes where there's no clear victim? Whatever you may think about the war on drugs, what would you do about drug crimes when there's no one willing to pay for an investigation? What about white collar crimes?

I served as the foreman in a jury trial with six charges of aggravated criminal sexual assault. Three rape victims testified. One (the focus of the trial) testified about having the rape kit examination performed on her. It's not pleasant, and it is not private. Add to that the humiliation of being forced to pay for the test, on the spot, before you can even have it done...

I think you can make your own conclusions about all this.

Regardless of party affiliation or policy differences, no one in their right minds... no one with any sense of intellectual honesty could or should EVER be able to endorse Palin for any public office... especially not the Vice Presidency.

Originally posted to Xystance on Thu Sep 11, 2008 at 11:55 AM PDT.

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Comment Preferences

  •  Forget honesty, what about DECENCY? (5+ / 0-)

    Wasilla was the ONLY town in Alaska to do this.

    •  And Compare It To Making Tax Payers Pay Per Diem, (4+ / 0-)
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      Samer, GN1927, Xystance, Cassandra Waites

      for her and her family to stay at home - while at the same time charging Rape Victims for Rape Kits!  What do we have then?  

      Never mind, don't answer.  Because, if you're like me, really, words can't begin to adequately describe the callous disgracefulness of a person who would do something like this!

  •  What is Sarah Palin hiding when she makes women.. (2+ / 0-)
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    Jimdotz, leonard145b

    pay for their own rape kit? This might seem to reduce the number of rape kits used or rape accusations made. Was she merely trying to lower the number of reported rapes instead of actually trying to prevent them or prosecute them?  Whose DNA did she not want them to find?

    "Four More Months!" And counting... down.

    by JPax on Thu Sep 11, 2008 at 12:01:35 PM PDT

  •  but did any woman have to pay for it? (0+ / 0-)

    that would put a name to the story. I know its unfair to ask for a rape victim to come forward s the GOP would skin her alive.

    •  Yeah... it's not a pretty thing... (0+ / 0-)

      After the humiliation of a sexual assault, I wouldn't want to ask someone to come forward. If they've already paid for it, gone through a trial process, I think they've been as strong as they need to have been already.

      Besides, what would having someone who experienced this do? As you said, the GOP would skin them alive, but what benefit would we get out of it? A face, someone to use a political illustration. I don't think it's something we need at this point. It kind of speaks for itself.

  •  isn't is odd that (4+ / 0-)

    To me, the most striking part of this story actually has to do with Joe Biden. Why? Because one of Joe Biden's most important legislative accomplishments is the Violence Against Women Act -- the very same legislation that will help ensure that no rape victim will be forced to pay for her own sexual assault kit.

    It's an extraordinarily bizarre contrast. On the one hand, you've got this older white guy who's been in DC for decades, and on the other hand you've got this inexperienced governor who probably hasn't spent ten days in DC in her entire life.

    And yet it's the graybeard who has done more to protect women from violence. Weird

    John McCain -- Putting the "ick" back in Maverick!!!!

    by fhamme on Thu Sep 11, 2008 at 12:02:53 PM PDT

  •  It's as ugly as having to pay for the bullet (3+ / 0-)
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    sxwarren, Cassandra Waites, ZedMont

    that was used to execute your husband.   This is as ugly as third world dictatorships and Soviet Era discipline.

    Republicans - They Hate Us for Our Freedoms

    by mikeconwell on Thu Sep 11, 2008 at 12:04:26 PM PDT

  •  In the case of incest, assuming a single (0+ / 0-)

    parent committed the crime* the conflict of interest in asking the perpetrator to pay for a child's rape kit that will prove guilt is mind-boggling.

    *Or even in the case of a married perp whose spouse refuses to cooperate.

  •  Is there any Wasilla Police records of (1+ / 0-)
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    Cassandra Waites

    women reporting sexual assault but no rape kit was used?

  •  How to decrease (1+ / 0-)
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    Cassandra Waites

    rape stats without actually increasing rape?  Make it harder and/or more humiliating to report.  Someone in another thread asked whether Wasilla homeowners' insurers were billed for burglary investigations.

    "If you don't have a record to run on...You make a big election about small things." - Barack Obama

    by GN1927 on Thu Sep 11, 2008 at 12:13:50 PM PDT

  •  You'd think of all the earmarks Palin asked for (1+ / 0-)
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    Cassandra Waites

    she'd make sure that rape victims aren't out of pocket for the investigation of their rapes.  

    If Wasila didn't have the money, and UNLESS Palin thought that somehow rape victims were more at fault than any other victim of crime, she had more than enough access to federal money to cover the rape kits.

    Supplemental war spending bills....the President's earmark, totalling a thousand bridges to nowhere. Will McCain put the wars on-budget?

    by Inland on Thu Sep 11, 2008 at 12:24:01 PM PDT

  •  LET JOE OFF THE SHORT LEASH.. (0+ / 0-)

    obama...let joe go after this issue..tie it
    to earmarks/bridge/rape kits/crab mating...

  •  So, the wealthy are protected by their wealth. (1+ / 0-)
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    Cassandra Waites

    That's an excellent point that should be exploited within the context of this issue.

    When would-be rapists know that only the wealthy can afford the rape kits that will allow their prosecution, it becomes open season on women who can't afford the kits.

    This should be a central theme in this election.  It should be about the one word that you rarely hear Republicans utter because they really don't care about it . . . .


    Some folks prefer a map and finding their own route. Others need someone to tell them where to go.

    by sxwarren on Thu Sep 11, 2008 at 01:03:10 PM PDT

  •  Sarah Palin Supports Rapists. (0+ / 0-)

    And John McCain supports pedophiles for criticizing Obama's kindergarten "bad touch prevention" class.

    9-11 changed everything? Well, Katrina changed it back.

    by varro on Thu Sep 11, 2008 at 01:07:25 PM PDT

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