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I'm turning over my diary after the flop today to the words of Kathleen Parker.  Kathleen is a very conservative Republican who agrees with me on very few things.  

After initially supporting Palin and having always supported right wing Republicans, Kathleen had the audacity to speak some simple truths about Sarah Palin.  Now she knows what many on her side are like.

Kathleen begins

Allow me to introduce myself. I am a traitor and an idiot. Also, my mother should have aborted me and left me in a Dumpster, but since she didn't, I should "off" myself.

Those are just a few nuggets randomly selected from thousands of e-mails written in response to my column suggesting that Sarah Palin is out of her league and should step down.

Kathleen we have something else in common.  When I attended Hannity's bookstore signing events, some of Hannity's fans told me that they wish my mother would have aborted me too. (Although one old woman was dehannitized and said she couldn't believe people could say that)  I know what these people are truly like.  Now you do too.  

She later continues:

The fierce reaction to my column has been both bracing and enlightening. After 20 years of column writing, I'm familiar with angry mail. But the past few days have produced responses of a different order. Not just angry, but vicious and threatening.

Some of my usual readers feel betrayed because I previously have written favorably of Palin. By changing my mind and saying so, I am viewed as a traitor to the Republican Party—not a "true" conservative.

Exactly Kathleen.  While there are some nuts on the left, the overwhelming majority of angry, vicious and violent peole do happen to be right wing conservatives.  I've known this for a long time.  Perhaps, now you do too.

After pointing out how hypocritical some of the Palin defenders point glowingly to Palin's "lack of polish" (Remember, Palin's selection destroyed McCain's last remaining potentially effective argument against Obama) Parker writes:

Of course, there's a difference between a lack of polish and a lack of coherence. Some of Palin's interview responses can't even be critiqued on their merits because they're so nonsensical. "Let Sarah be Sarah" has become the latest rallying cry among my colleagues on the right. She'll be fine if we just leave her alone, they say. Between prayers, I might add.

Kathleen then adds this.

Not all my mail has been mean-spirited. A fair number expressed polite disappointment; others relief and gratitude. Still others offered reasonable arguments aimed at changing my mind. I may yet.

In the meantime, this assault and my decision to write about it aren't really about me—or even Sarah Palin. The mailbag is about us, our country, and what we really believe.

That we have become a partisan nation is no secret. This week has provided a vivid example of where rabid partisanship leads with the failure of Congress to pass a bailout bill vitally needed to keep our economy from unraveling.

She then attacks Nancy Pelosi (unfairly in my view) but gets back to the gist of her excellent column.

Such extreme partisanship has a crippling effect on government, which may be desirable at times, but not now. More important in the long term is the less-tangible effect of stifling free speech. My mail paints an ugly picture and a bleak future if we do not soon correct ourselves.

Well Kathleen it is the right wing conservatives who created this culture.  And by the way, see my signature line.  To me there can be no cooperation with the people who are sending you this vicious crap.

But then Kathleen hits this paragraph out of the park.

The picture is this: Anyone who dares express an opinion that runs counter to the party line will be silenced. That doesn't sound American to me, but Stalin would approve. Readers have every right to reject my opinion. But when we decide that a person is a traitor and should die for having an opinion different than one's own, then we cross into territory that puts all freedoms at risk. (I hear you, Dixie Chicks.)

Very well said.  Now you know Kathleen.

Originally posted to davefromqueens on Wed Oct 01, 2008 at 08:38 AM PDT.

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  •  Where can we write nice things to her? (6+ / 0-)

    I mean to sort of say, I hope Your Eyes are open , Kathleen.

    MCCAIN/PALIN - A BRIDGE TO NOWHERE.

    by lrbreckenripple on Wed Oct 01, 2008 at 08:40:28 AM PDT

  •  If you have the temerity... (6+ / 0-)

    ... to change your mind following the "interference" of new facts rather than shoving cognitive dissonance violently to one side, then you are not a "true conservative."

    No, Madame Vice President, "Godzilla vs. Megalon" is not a Supreme Court case

    by Shelbyville Manhattan on Wed Oct 01, 2008 at 08:41:12 AM PDT

  •  sorry... (9+ / 0-)

    but when you lie down with dogs (as Parker does), you get bitten by fleas.

    By being such an unapologetic shill for so long, she has reaped the whirlwind.

    It serves her right! :-)

    When liberals saw 9-11, we wondered how we could make the country safe. When conservatives saw 9-11, they saw an investment opportunity.

    by onanyes on Wed Oct 01, 2008 at 08:42:23 AM PDT

  •  Fair Use: (4+ / 0-)

    three paragraphs max, generally, with a link.

    Please add the link, and edit, thanks.

    •  I agree (3+ / 0-)
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      bustacap, bottles, Jane Lew

      And to add a little advice, the 1st, 2nd and final grafs used are the most powerful. If you only include those, it'll still be a great diary.

      No, Madame Vice President, "Godzilla vs. Megalon" is not a Supreme Court case

      by Shelbyville Manhattan on Wed Oct 01, 2008 at 08:43:55 AM PDT

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    •  the link is there in the opening (1+ / 0-)
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      I do not use the entire story.

      and this is fair use as I comment throughout and offer my insights.

      All is kosher.

      I shall not rest until right wing conservatives are 4th party gadflies limited to offering minor corrections on legislation once or twice a year.

      by davefromqueens on Wed Oct 01, 2008 at 09:00:17 AM PDT

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      •  yep, the link's there (1+ / 0-)
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        MajorFlaw

        as to how much is ok to quote, you can't make up your own rules, such as 'if you break it up and comment it's ok'...from the FAQ:

        Limited copying within the bounds of the doctrine of "fair use" is permitted. A reasonable rule-of-thumb is that copying three paragraphs from a normal-length news article or editorial is acceptable. (This, however, is not a safe-harbor. If even three paragraphs seems like "too much," then copy less or nothing at all.) For more on fair use, please visit this site.

        although I have been known to state that cookies, once broken, lose all their calories - but in this case, it's liability for kos and this site that's at risk.

        admins notified, I'll leave it with them, now.

        •  no you are trying to substitute YOUR own rules (0+ / 0-)

          merely b/c you dislike the diarist even though there is NO rule violation.

          I followed the rules of this site and long standing tradition.

          You are trying to substitute YOUR rules.

          Which is typical bottles and typical you know who.

          It's a tired act already and lends credence to those who claim that you, your buddy Flaw, and a few others are merely here at this site to disrupt and incite and that you care nothing about the rules and simply act in the very same way that Kathleen Parker is describing in this article.

          You can simply admit that you were wrong in this instance and apologize for the mistake.

          I shall not rest until right wing conservatives are 4th party gadflies limited to offering minor corrections on legislation once or twice a year.

          by davefromqueens on Wed Oct 01, 2008 at 09:08:25 AM PDT

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          •  This isn't personal (2+ / 0-)
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            MajorFlaw, bottles

            Three grafs is the rule. Quoting more than that can get the site into trouble, and none of us want that.

            Just remove a couple citations and it'll still be a good diary.

            No, Madame Vice President, "Godzilla vs. Megalon" is not a Supreme Court case

            by Shelbyville Manhattan on Wed Oct 01, 2008 at 09:10:25 AM PDT

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            •  Shelby (0+ / 0-)

              To you it is not personal. I offer no criticism of your opinion or belief.

              To "bottles" (and his predecessory nics) it is personal.  Bottles seemingly believes that

              1.  Rules on this site should be applied to people bottles doesn't like but never applied to bottles or members of the crew that bottles travels with.
              1.  Those that bottles doesn't like shall have non rules applied to them as rules even though they aren't rules.

              Had Dr. Bottles decided to provide the pertinent content of the link, Dr. Bottles false claim gets undermined.  (as do the criteria for courts to consider)

              Simply put, bottles is not interested in copyright infringement and is trying desperately to get me banned from this site.  This was a Hail Mary pass by bottles which fell 50 yards incomplete.  Bottles came into this thread for this reason and this reason only.

              The Copyright Act says that "fair use...for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching (including multiple copies for classroom use), scholarship, or research, is not an infringement of copyright." So if you are commenting on or criticizing an item someone else has posted, you have a fair use right to quote.

              I shall not rest until right wing conservatives are 4th party gadflies limited to offering minor corrections on legislation once or twice a year.

              by davefromqueens on Wed Oct 01, 2008 at 09:17:13 AM PDT

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          •  lol (1+ / 0-)
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            link

            The amount and substantiality of the portion used. Copying nearly all of a work, or copying its "heart" is less likely to be fair.

            you copied about 2/3 or more of Parker's piece.

            not so much "my" rules.

            if you think that pointing out a Fair Use violation is disrupting anything other than your ignorance of the law, I can't imagine what that would be.

            As for "inciting...?" I'm inciting you to edit this diary.

            I do appreciate your pointing out that my mentioning your Fair Use violation, and citing the FAQ and the law, demonstrate that I "care nothing about the rules," though. kudos.

            •  read your own link (0+ / 0-)

              There is no fair use violation, not even close.

              There is no violation of the rules of this site, not even close.

              Again, it's just you being you.

              So when do you email Flaw and your crew to come into this diary to give you recs?  Will be it an hour from now?  10 hours from now?

              The diary is already off the page.  Shall I take bets as to their time of arrival?

              I shall not rest until right wing conservatives are 4th party gadflies limited to offering minor corrections on legislation once or twice a year.

              by davefromqueens on Wed Oct 01, 2008 at 09:19:53 AM PDT

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              •  let me guess (0+ / 0-)

                Bottles has been quiet for the last few minutes because bottles is parsing through every word of the link looking for something that bottles thinks he can interpret as violative of fair use in my diary.

                Of course there is no violation but bottles is seriously looking.  

                What will bottles blockquote next?

                I shall not rest until right wing conservatives are 4th party gadflies limited to offering minor corrections on legislation once or twice a year.

                by davefromqueens on Wed Oct 01, 2008 at 09:24:51 AM PDT

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                •  or perhaps (0+ / 0-)

                  Bottles is going back through Dave's 680 diaries and looking for anything, just anything.

                  Or maybe my 11,200+ comments.

                  Will bottles give up the phony and disproven argument of fair use or will bottles now engage in a personal attack?

                  Tune in at 11 to find out.

                  I shall not rest until right wing conservatives are 4th party gadflies limited to offering minor corrections on legislation once or twice a year.

                  by davefromqueens on Wed Oct 01, 2008 at 09:26:35 AM PDT

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            •  glad you were never a lawyer (0+ / 0-)

              But maybe you can go back into 3rd grade
              and learn the meaning of the words

              "less likely"

              I shall not rest until right wing conservatives are 4th party gadflies limited to offering minor corrections on legislation once or twice a year.

              by davefromqueens on Wed Oct 01, 2008 at 09:20:42 AM PDT

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            •  Shocking I Say- MajorFlaw recced this (0+ / 0-)

              long after the diary goes off the page too.

              Shocking I say.  Who could have guessed?

              I shall not rest until right wing conservatives are 4th party gadflies limited to offering minor corrections on legislation once or twice a year.

              by davefromqueens on Wed Oct 01, 2008 at 04:58:08 PM PDT

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  •  Kathleen gets to the heart of it (5+ / 0-)

    there's a difference between a lack of polish and a lack of coherence

    She's not folksy. She's ignorant, and dangerously so.

    No, Madame Vice President, "Godzilla vs. Megalon" is not a Supreme Court case

    by Shelbyville Manhattan on Wed Oct 01, 2008 at 08:42:31 AM PDT

  •  bitchslapped by reality (5+ / 0-)

    it's a beautiful thing

  •  you reap what you sow (2+ / 0-)
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    you sow hate, don't expect to reap a bushel of love.

    "There are many truths of which the full meaning cannot be realized until personal experience has brought it home." John Stuart Mill

    by kuvasz on Wed Oct 01, 2008 at 08:44:10 AM PDT

  •  last quote is best (1+ / 0-)
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    The picture is this: Anyone who dares express an opinion that runs counter to the party line will be silenced. That doesn't sound American to me, but Stalin would approve. Readers have every right to reject my opinion. But when we decide that a person is a traitor and should die for having an opinion different than one's own, then we cross into territory that puts all freedoms at risk. (I hear you, Dixie Chicks.)

  •  Hang on, Kathleen- Morpheus and crew are coming (1+ / 0-)
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  •  I saw that this morning. (3+ / 0-)
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    bustacap, Sister Havana, Neon Vincent

    The vicious wingnut faction of the Repug party will turn on their own if they stray even a little from the party line.  And only one of their own could give it right back and have any chance of them listening.  A slim chance, but better than any of us would have had.

    It makes my head spin to read criticism from a Repug directed toward other Repugs that invokes Stalin, however.  And the sympathetic Dixie Chicks reference was the icing on the cake.

  •  They're Religious Nuts (2+ / 0-)
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    And Die Partei Republikkkanische is their religion.

    Parker shat all over their church and their god.

    Like peeing on the Qu'ran in Islamabad or burning a Bible in Biloxi.

    Yes, it's similar to Stalinism. But in this case, the ideology is crafted for the mindset of the authoritarian worshipper, not the other way around--Sarah Palin isn't anywhere as dangerous as her adepts are.

  •  Never in my Pablum puking life... (4+ / 0-)

    did I think I would have anything other than utter loathing for Kathleen Parker, but her last two editorials have got me saying,"You Go Girl!!" (And I don't even say "You go girl")

    The only way to deal with an unfree world is to become so absolutely free that your very existence is an act of rebellion. ~Albert Camus

    by TtexwiTyler on Wed Oct 01, 2008 at 08:45:47 AM PDT

  •  I'm glad to see this, and I do believe (2+ / 0-)
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    bustacap, TtexwiTyler

    her eyes have been opened, at least temporarily.  But she says she may return to the fold.  If so, my respect for her honesty will fade away.  

    ...just another hooligan from the droogie clique

    by RadioGirl on Wed Oct 01, 2008 at 08:46:33 AM PDT

    •  Shepherd Smith (2+ / 0-)
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      mango, RadioGirl

      His eyes opened for about 2-3 days down in New Orleans.

      Then perhaps Ailes got him in the backroom with a few other guys, tied him to a chair, and Shep is back living in the world of the inhumane.

      I shall not rest until right wing conservatives are 4th party gadflies limited to offering minor corrections on legislation once or twice a year.

      by davefromqueens on Wed Oct 01, 2008 at 09:02:08 AM PDT

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  •  Well at least we now (9+ / 0-)

    know that many of these pro-lifers do actually allow for exceptions:  abortion for anyone who may potentially not agree with me.

    It would be interesting to look back and see if Parker joined the anti-Dixie Chicks crowd 5 years ago.

    I did hear an interview of Parker on NPR -- while I don't agree with her general political ideology, she was very good -- polished and cogent -- no wonder she can't take it any more.

  •  GOP: The Truth is out there (0+ / 0-)

    2+2=5( RepubliMath).

  •  Republicans have made "partisanship" an ugly word (5+ / 0-)

     I, personally, have no problem with partisanship.  Do you have beliefs, principles and values worth articulating and defending?   Do you care enough about the future and what we leave our children to stand and defend those?  Sounds okay to me.  I can disagree with you - and have a respectful debate on the merits.

     But not Republicans - they have no beliefs - as Kathleen Parker discoverd - they have only a need to be led, to be told by a demagogue that whatever a glorious leader says is so - and that anyone who disagrees - should have been aborted (while viciously supporting anti-choice policies).

     So, Dear Ms. Parker - the fault is not with the system - or in the stars - it is with you.

  •  Anger is so McCain (2+ / 0-)
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    bustacap, Sister Havana

    Look for Palin to bring anger to the debates... it's all they've got left.

    "So much time and so little to do. Wait a minute. Strike that. Reverse it."- Willie Wonka

    by crystal eyes on Wed Oct 01, 2008 at 08:51:00 AM PDT

  •  Dixie Chicks (3+ / 0-)
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    bustacap, Sister Havana, crystal eyes

    Great line.

    I too would like to express my thanks for her courage. It is not as easy for her as some of us would think.

    Like the Dixie Chicks she WILL PAY for speaking out.  

    What is past is past. She needs support, and I for one wish to express my thanks.

    Where do we send the emails?

  •  "we have become a partisan nation" (2+ / 0-)
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    bustacap, 4kedtongue

    Well, no, Kathleen. The right wing have abandoned the idea of cooperation, fair judgement, impartiality. They have become partisan. You can find reality only by inverting their slogans and soundbites: when they say "Country first", they mean "Party first", etc. They have redefined "bipartisan" to mean "shut up and do what I say".

    The rest of the country was just looking on with bewilderment for a long time; but the awakening is here.

    This is not a sig-line.

    by Joffan on Wed Oct 01, 2008 at 08:53:26 AM PDT

    •  It's what John Dean calls... (1+ / 0-)
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      Joffan

      ...'Authoritarianism' -- as a political / philosphical conservative, Dean differentiates between the hypocrites on the right who seek power for power's sake from the thoughtful philosophical partisans who believe that conservatism is simply better than liberalism (the latter being willing to engage honestly with those on the left).  Dean contends that Authoritarian behavior, while not exclusive to conservatives, is unmistakably more prevelant in the conservative movement...he believes that it is a psychological condition.

      I have no problem with partisanship -- especially when it is in opposition to authoritarians.  However, we on the left should be careful not to adopt the same tactics as those on the right when confronting our ideological / political opponents. We're deluding ourselves if we think we can't be viscous and cruel toward those who have honest disagreements with us -- just look at some of the comments toward those of us who supported Clinton during the primaries.

      There are most certainly authoritarians here in our midst.

      "NO! I will NOT yield!" Ted Stevens (R) Alaska

      by 4kedtongue on Wed Oct 01, 2008 at 09:21:14 AM PDT

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      •  They exist on all sides (1+ / 0-)
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        Joffan

        but they are usually predominantly right wing and conservative.

        I shall not rest until right wing conservatives are 4th party gadflies limited to offering minor corrections on legislation once or twice a year.

        by davefromqueens on Wed Oct 01, 2008 at 09:23:04 AM PDT

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      •  Yes, there are authoritarian liberals (1+ / 0-)
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        4kedtongue

        and authoritarian Kossacks, but the right-wing movement as a whole is what I'm describing.

        You seem to be using "partisan" in a different, rather technical/academic, sense compared to emotive/attitudinal version used by Kathleen Parker, or me. Our usage of "partisan" here is evoking win-at-all-costs, sabotage, mob rule and ambush; not merely a definite preference for a particular set of views, and a vocal antipathy towards their inverse.

        And fyi, I was absent from dKos for most of the primaries, for exactly the reasons you allude to. It got pretty unpleasant.

        This is not a sig-line.

        by Joffan on Wed Oct 01, 2008 at 09:58:40 AM PDT

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        •  agree (1+ / 0-)
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          and I'm not on the good side of the small number of "authoritarian Kossacks" right now.

          But indeed this very small percentage of "authoritarian Kossacks" are no better than the Gingrich's, Bush's, Cheneys, and Roves of the world.

          Fortunately, they speak for single digit percentage of this site and are not reflective of most poeple here.  And if and when I run for public office one day, I would not want that single digit percentage of people to be associated with my campaign.

          I shall not rest until right wing conservatives are 4th party gadflies limited to offering minor corrections on legislation once or twice a year.

          by davefromqueens on Wed Oct 01, 2008 at 10:16:30 AM PDT

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        •  There are exactly 14 Authoritarian Liberals... (1+ / 0-)
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          ...and they all post comments here...lol.

          And yeah, I was using the word 'partisan' to connote a party or ideological distinction.  

          Parker amuses me...I'm not a fan, and she seems to be the latest in a long string of conservatives who is beginning to recognize the rot within the ranks of the republican party (too little, too late, Kath...).  Her sudden discovery of the haters calls into question her past thinking -- her inability to look within before criticizing those with whom she might disagree.  I'm not sure she never really saw it before, but she certainly over-looked it because, well, it was never directed at her and to have recognized it would have drawn attention away from her agenda.  I don't put her in the same league as John Dean (or even Bob Barr, for that matter).  There's a smarmy, Noonanesqe smugness in her columns (I dare say, she's the poor man's Peggy) that I find rather condescending.

          But I'm pleased to find someone here with whom I can commiserate.  I too often relish the role of contrarian...lol.

          "NO! I will NOT yield!" Ted Stevens (R) Alaska

          by 4kedtongue on Wed Oct 01, 2008 at 10:27:43 AM PDT

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          •  The "authoritarian liberals" (2+ / 0-)
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            It's almost paradoxical because liberalism is all about freedom, liberty, democracy, tolerance, etc... so it's always odd when you come across one.  But I think I've run into all 14 here.  Buyt out of 181,000 names, that's a very small amt.

            I shall not rest until right wing conservatives are 4th party gadflies limited to offering minor corrections on legislation once or twice a year.

            by davefromqueens on Wed Oct 01, 2008 at 11:05:17 AM PDT

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  •  It's unfortunate that it takes (2+ / 0-)
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    ... a cock-up the size of Sarah Palin (and believe me, that's a misstep that can be seen from space) for the scales to fall from Kathleen Parker's eyes.  

    One has to wonder how many of the things she wrote over the years were driven solely by politics and ideology, while intellect and principles wept impotently in the corner.

    It's often the worst revelation when one realizes that they've colluded with howling idiots for years.

    i am jack's complete lack of surprise -- fight club

    by bustacap on Wed Oct 01, 2008 at 08:53:41 AM PDT

    •  The fact that she could even... (2+ / 0-)
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      ...consider changing her mind and return to supporting Palin is the biggest hint that Parker should be read with a very jaundiced eye.  The same goes for Will, Noonan, Frum, et. al.

      "NO! I will NOT yield!" Ted Stevens (R) Alaska

      by 4kedtongue on Wed Oct 01, 2008 at 09:24:17 AM PDT

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      •  Believe me ... (0+ / 0-)

        ... I am very cynical about the permanence of such "jailhouse conversions".  Being temporarily subject to the unhinged rage of the GOPhers may have surprised her, but I'll be interested to see where she stands in a month or a year.

        i am jack's complete lack of surprise -- fight club

        by bustacap on Wed Oct 01, 2008 at 11:04:20 AM PDT

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  •  I don't know much about Parker (3+ / 0-)
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    I'll admit that I generally just glaze over when I come to her column in the SF Chronicle.

    There can be no doubt however, that here resides a person with a brain, regardless of her particular opinions.

    No doubt she'll get even more hate mail for this column, but perhaps next time I see her byline, I'll actually give her some respect. There ought to be room in the world for reasonable people to disagree and, frankly, we need to keep that in mind even here in dKos.

  •  Hate Radio (2+ / 0-)
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    and so many times the right-wing hate radio pundits have called for someone's death for having a different opinion, then of course said they were joking or that they really didn't mean it.  So it isn't any wonder where the hoards that went into attack mode on her got the idea.

    Some of the more civilized conservatives need to see what is happening and work with liberals to put a stop to the hate verbiage.  I agree that it is dangerous.  Babies were recently gassed in a Mosque in Dayton after a DVD was sent out encouraging people to hate Muslims.  It isn't all about words.

    Isn't it interesting though that they like to say their enemies should have been aborted and they attack babies?  Fascinating!

    Fox news: Even better than meth!

    by get the red out on Wed Oct 01, 2008 at 09:00:59 AM PDT

  •  She never observed an INKLING of this (1+ / 0-)
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    Neon Vincent

    attitude in all her years covering politics?  She never observed a tendency for the Right Wing to use physical threats, racist language, etc.?  Only just NOW is she noticing what happened to The Dixie Chicks, Phil Donohue, etc.?  She never listened to some of the more extreme statements from talk radio?  She never heard or saw the mean-spirited lies and deliberate "mistakes" on FOX?

    And obviously, if she never noticed THAT before, she also hasn't noticed the conservative tendency toward deliberate ignorance....

    "Only the most deluded of us could doubt the necessity of this war." John McCain at the RNC, August 31, 2004

    by Pangloss on Wed Oct 01, 2008 at 09:02:50 AM PDT

  •  Thanks for sharing the latest (1+ / 0-)
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    Neon Vincent

    Parker post. My central valley CA paper always runs her column a day or two behind. Taking a stand that may be unpopular with your friends (or your readership) is always the best indicator of the quality and character of those friends (and readers).

  •  A Dumpster, Kathleen? (1+ / 0-)
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    For heaven's sake, stop taking my name in vain.

    John McCain's Straight Talk Express runs on fossil fuels.

    by Dump Terry McAuliffe on Wed Oct 01, 2008 at 09:07:38 AM PDT

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    Abe Simpson/Tonya Harding 08

    by Tyrannocaster on Wed Oct 01, 2008 at 09:11:46 AM PDT

  •  I hear you, Dixie Chicks.?!? Amazing! (1+ / 0-)
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    I'm just barely left of center and the rabid right scares the livin' tahoots out of me.  Thank you for this terrific diary and thank you Kathleen Parker!  

    Better than I ever have been able to, she has said what I have been trying to get across to my insane rethug brother who calls for the shooting of *%&#@ ____ (fill in the blank) who disagrees with or different from him.  It is unAmerican.  

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