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What do all four of these have in common?

There really are two answers to this.

First, there really isn't much wrong with any of them.  

McCain served his country honorably by all accounts.  He may be a bit flippant with his comments at times, but seems pretty grandfatherly all around.  He does have a record of going against his party in important issues especially related to energy policy and treatment of war prisoners. His wife certainly isn't bad looking.  That's gotta count for something no?

Obama seems like a nice enough guy.  He presents some interesting ideas.  He's most definitely a breath of fresh air in what has been a painful 6 and a half years.  He might actually be just different enough to change the perception of America abroad.  

The Yankees pretty consistently put a quality team on the field ( even this season although they fell short ).  Jeter may have a little arrogance about him but he doesn't bother anyone.  Giambi seemed honestly contrite about his cheating.  Bobby Abreu always seems quick with a smile and a joke.  Can't really complain about the Yankees.

Indie Rock is just plain fun sometimes.  Very often catchy tunes, not too hard, not too soft.  Generally cheerful young kids making a living doing what they love.  Who can complain about that.

What else do they have in common?  The fact that their fans can just be plain annoying.  So much so that it really makes me hate them all :)

Originally posted to skully on Mon Oct 06, 2008 at 02:51 PM PDT.

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Comment Preferences

  •  well McCain and the yankess (2+ / 0-)
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    soms, dalfireplug

    are both Losers!! i am a red sox troll

  •  hmmm...ok (0+ / 0-)

    Are you the proverbial swing voter??

    treatment of war prisoners

    Because as far as the above stance goes, McCain changed his stance and voted yes on torture. Even Andrew Sullivan who was such a huge McCain hog before started decrying his about-face stances(flip-flops) after that.

    •  Here you go (0+ / 0-)

      America: The Global Pioneer Of Torture

      14 Sep 2008 06:28 pm

      A new survey of global public opinion [PDF] reveals the appalling truth. Americans are now among the people on earth most supportive of government's torturing prisoners. The United States is in the same public opinion ballpark as some of the most disgusting regimes on the planet:

         Support for the unequivocal position was highest in Spain (82%), Great Britain (82%) and France (82%), followed by Mexico (73%), China (66%), the Palestinian territories (66%), Poland (62%), Indonesia (61%), and the Ukraine (59%).   In five countries either modest majorities or pluralities support a ban on all torture:  Azerbaijan (54%), Egypt (54%), the United States (53%), Russia (49%), and Iran (43%).  South Koreans are divided.

      So America's peers in the fight against torture, in terms of public opinion are Azerbaijan, Egypt, Russia, and Iran. This is what America now is: a country with the moral values of countries that routinely torture and abuse prisoners, like Egypt and Iran. Even the Chinese, living in a neo-fascist market state, oppose torture in all circumstances by 66 percent, compared to Americans where only 53 percent do! More horrifying: a higher percentage of Americans - 13 percent - believe that torture should generally be allowed than in any other country save China, Turkey and Nigeria. And in the last two years, as the American president celebrates and authorizes the torture of people who have not been allowed a fair trail, support for torturing terror suspects has increased from 36 percent to 44 percent.

      The only other countries where support for torturing terror suspects has grown are India, Nigeria, Turkey, South Korea and Egypt. In all other developed countries, support for an absolute ban on torture has actually risen in the past two years. America is now leading the way in legitimizing and celebrating torture as a legitimate tool for governments.

      This is the Bush-Cheney legacy - to be continued under McCain-Palin. McCain was once a torture victim, but since 2006 has supported the torture of prisoners by the CIA. In fact, prisoners across the world who have been tortured by the CIA in the last two years can, in the terror of their cells, know that John McCain made it possible, by caving into the war criminals in the White House in 2006.

      How can the country that pioneered the Geneva Conventions now be a nation more supportive of torture than any other developed nation on earth? Of course, it matters that we have had a president and vice-president actively endorsing and campaigning for the use of torture, and torturing prisoners routinely in jails where there is no escape and no due process. But the key segment of the pro-torture enthusiasts are evangelical Christians. Yes: evangelical Christians are now the greatest supporters of doing to prisoners what was once done to Christ.

      http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.co...

    •  I am the proverbial... (0+ / 0-)

      third party voter :)

  •  three? (1+ / 0-)
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    soms
    1.  McCain
    1.  Obama
    1.  the Yankees
    1.  Indie Rock

    What do all three of these have in common?

    Have I miscounted?

    The way to win is not to move to the right wing; the way to win is to move to the right policy. -- Nameless Soldier

    by N in Seattle on Mon Oct 06, 2008 at 03:03:48 PM PDT

  •  sorry (0+ / 0-)

    Obama is the Yankees; Mc Cain is the Mets. Sorry losers whose timing is never right.  

  •  well, fuck you, too (1+ / 0-)
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    soms

    not really, but talk about annoying. Red Sox fans have never learned how to win graciously.

    OTOH, #1 red sox fan Eddie in ME and I get along just fine. I even FP'd red sox series games, though it killed me to do it.

    "Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies." - Groucho Marx

    by Greg Dworkin on Mon Oct 06, 2008 at 03:12:34 PM PDT

  •  oh yeah when Obama wins (0+ / 0-)

    i won't be gracious then either but i am at least self aware

  •  you are truly a butthead (0+ / 0-)

    Derek Jeter is about as far from arrogant as possible; on the other hand McCain is nothing more than a nasty, over the hill fighter jock who is so tempermental unfit for the presidency I can't even begin to say. Why don't you find some fellow buttheads and sit on the train tracks and sing Kumbya

    •  i have to agree that the comparison (0+ / 0-)

      of Jeter and McCain is way off base... i hate the yankees and john McCain but it is an extreme insult to Jetes. He is an incredibly classy guy that knows how to lead people ( as much as i hate to say it) Arod would of been a better example

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