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Forty years ago John McCain found himself in an incredibly shitty situation. He had the crap beat out of him on a regular basis. When the North Vietnamese found out his daddy was an Admiral they said he could go home but he chose to stay behind. They broke his arms. They put him in solitary confinement. Finally, after five and a half years he left a changed man.

Right now you’re probably wondering why I’m being so charitable to John McCain, a curmudgeonly old man who is running a bitter and angry campaign consisting primarily of bad decisions and lies. It’s because after last night’s debate I’m beginning to realize that it has become a virtual certainty that John McCain is going to lose and lose badly and I kinda sorta feel a teeny-tiny bit bad about that. Not because by any stretch of the imagination he deserves to win but becasue our memory of him will forever be tainted by the man he has become and the desperate campaign of distortion and lies that his route to the Presidency has become.

So, why should I (or anyone else for that matter) feel bad for a lying sack of crap like John McCain?

Well, it’s because he hasn’t always been a lying sack of crap.

Once upon a time John McCain was a solid gold American war hero who was beaten and broken while he was fighting for his country. He may have been a lazy ass student at the Naval Academy who graduated fifth from the bottom of his class and only avoided getting thrown out because his daddy and his granddaddy were Admirals but when he finally became an aviator he got shot down one too many times and he paid a heavy price for it.

In my life I’ve seen far too many good and honorable men (mostly Democrats) who, for a variety of reasons went down in flames in a Presidential election and then become synonymous with the word "Loser." Their legacy becomes tarnished by loss and all that remains of their memory is that lost election. Some close, some not so close, but all we remember them for is that loss. Michael Dukakis jumps immediately to the front of my mind. Others include John Kerry, Walter Mondale and Bob Dole. All we eventually remember them despite what thaey may have done before, is for being a Big Presidential Loser.

A brief side note on Presidential Losers who are not on this list: You may notice that Al Gore is not on this list. In 2004, he would have been on this list. He was an overweight pasty bearded loser four years ago. But then he sucked it up and renewed his commitment to protecting the environment. The Al Gore of 2008 has a Nobel Prize and is an internationally recognized champion of the environment who has made an award winning film.

Also absent from the list is Jimmy Carter and this is for two reasons. One, he was president for four years, if an unpopular one, for reasons, I feel, were out of his control. Two, the man is a house building machine. It may have taken him a few decades to find his post-Presidential groove but when he did – wow! The dude is 84 years old and he’s still helping out with Habitat for Humanity. Now that’s a legacy.

Eight years ago it is entirely possible that John McCain 1.0 would have run an honorable campaign against Al Gore. Americans would have had a legitimate campaign based on the issues. I still feel that Al Gore almost certainly would have won in an issues based campaign. McCain would have lost BUT his legacy would have remained intact and he would have gone back to the Senate and probably done something with what remained of his career.

But in 2008 we have John McCain 2.0. John McCain 2.0 is a hand-wringing angry and bitter old man who will be remembered for being an hand-wringing angry and bitter old man who lost to a more positive forward-looking young man and the ‘if onlys’ will be numerous and plenty.

Ten maybe twenty years from now when John McCain’s obituary is read on the evening news we will be saying to ourselves "John McCain was a prisoner of war? Oh yeah ... I forgot about that. John McCain was one of the few Republicans who acknowledged climate change before it was the in thing to do? Really? John McCain worked on campaign finance reform? I didn’t know that. I just remember how badly he lost to Barack Obama back in 2008."

And that, my friends, is a sad thing. John McCain, the 2008 Republican presidential candidate is a liar and a dipshit and that will forever taint our memory of him. Once upon a time John McCain was an honest and honorable human being and we will forget that. I take comfort only in the fact that it will be his own damn fault.

Originally posted to Some NorCal Guy on Wed Oct 08, 2008 at 12:37 PM PDT.


When John McCain loses will you fill sorry for him?

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    •  McCain caused all of his problems (3+ / 0-)
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      exiledfromTN, ExStr8, Lava20

      Just check his life's summary.  He has always been reckless, erratic, and bratty.  His parents should have raised him better.  Maybe then he would have grown up with honor, instead of entitlement.

    •  honor = resign from the Senate after Keating 5 (1+ / 0-)
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      Instead he "watched the polls" as he climbed out of sub 50 disapproval, then remarked how fortunate Iraq War#1 was for him and how it helped him win reelection for distracting from Keating and making him a media go-to guy for the War.

  •  feel bad (2+ / 0-)
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    Redstateresident, Lava20

    when he loses...
    until then, I think it is fair to hold the pity.

    We all KNEW Bush couldn't win last time, didn't we?

    Guess what?  He did.

    Feel sorry for him when he loses.

  •  I dont think I will feel bad (5+ / 0-)
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    exiledfromTN, elliott, PatsBard, soms, Lava20

    Becuz Mccain is the one who decided to hire rick davis...mccain is the one who decided to embrace bush policies with a big fat bear hug during the primaries...if i feel bad for anyone its john kerry who was a good honorable man who all but made fun of for his vietnam experience

    Sarah Palin spoke to me tonight...she told me not to vote for John McCain 8-/

    by bh20755 on Wed Oct 08, 2008 at 12:42:05 PM PDT

  •  He has always been a liar. Three previous crashes (4+ / 0-)
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    exiledfromTN, ExStr8, elliott, Lava20

    were caused by pilot error. Here.

    Read the FAQ, please. If you care enough to write a diary, care enough to do it correctly.

    by PatsBard on Wed Oct 08, 2008 at 12:44:47 PM PDT

  •  Bob Dole is more of a "war hero" than John McCain (3+ / 0-)
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    elliott, Lava20, DaNang65

    And ought to get at least as much benefit of the doubt.

    But the term is overused, applied to just about any veteran running for political office, at the expense of the fewer soldiers, sailors, airmen and marines who did display heroism in battle.

  •  McCain has to live with the choices he has made.. (3+ / 0-)
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    exiledfromTN, elliott, Lava20

    and is exactly the opposite of what he tells you he is (and that includes his service record).

  •  I used to feel a little bad (2+ / 0-)
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    elliott, mystysaint

    but then he picked Palin and then began slinging mud.  And now I don't feel anything for him.  He didn't have to chose to lower himself into the dirty politics but he did.  he didn't have to chose Palin, an unexperienced scary wingnut, but he did.  he doesn't have to be such and a&^hole, but he is.  

    "He's a warped, frustrated old man". ~ It's a Wonderful Life

    by lostinamerica2711 on Wed Oct 08, 2008 at 12:47:47 PM PDT

  •  I respect his service (0+ / 0-)

    I don't really think attacking him as a war hero is appropriate.  His status as a war hero is not the question at hand, but his status as a potential president.

    I don't like the man.
    I used to.  I lived in Arizona for 10 years, and I always liked him, he was ONE politician that at least appeared to be different.

    This campaign has painted him in a different light for me.

    But I will not demean his experience as a POW because of his bad campaign tactics.

    •  It's not in question, if you DON'T question it... (0+ / 0-)

      I've decided that I am no longer able to sit by while McCain is called a war "Hero". I honor his willingness to serve our country, and I honor the strength it took him to survive capitivity. I realize the Viet Cong may have put special pressure on him to create propaganda videos as a POW because of his family. BUT, his war record is that he was captured, AND he recorded propaganda videos for the enemy.

      I think calling McCain a Veteran is pretty darn honorable on its own, but calling him a "hero" is just not justified by these facts. If McCain is a hero, what can we possibly call those who were NOT shot down and did NOT record propaganda videos?

      •  I see your point, but ... (0+ / 0-)

        There are heroes and there are heroes. Every single person who signed up for the armed forces in peacetime or in war can be called a hero. But there are differing levels of respect, with the highest levels reserved for those who died in the direct defense of their country.

        John McCain despite the fact he is a bitter and angry liar of an old man, was a hero who deserves respect if only for choosing to stay behind when offered the opportunity to leave. If you choose to call him otherwise, so be it. It may be that honor and heroism are in the eye of the beholder.

        I feel that the vast majority of Americans saw McCain as an honorable man before 2008. After 2008 I feel that he will no longer be viewed as an honorable man because of the type of campaign he has decided to run. And I, for one, feel slightly bad about that, but take comfort in knowing he did it to himself.

        Yeah. That's what I thought.

        by Some NorCal Guy on Wed Oct 08, 2008 at 01:34:37 PM PDT

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  •  In what imaginary war was McCain a hero? (0+ / 0-)

    Heroes shoot down the other guy!!!!

    McCain is a loser!

  •  Actually, His Heroism is Bullshit (1+ / 0-)
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    McCain violated the Code of Conduct to which ALL U.S. personnel are subject:

    I am an American, fighting in the forces which guard my country and our way
    of life. I am prepared to give my life in their defense. I will never surrender of my own free will. If in command, I will never surrender the members of my command while they still have the means to resist.

    If I am captured, I will continue to resist by all means available. I will make every effort to escape and aid others to escape. I will accept neither
    parole nor special favors from the enemy.

    If I become a prisoner of war, I will keep faith with my fellow prisoners. I will give no information or take part in any action which might be harmful to my comrades. If I am senior, I will take command. If not, I will obey the lawful orders of those appointed over me, and will back them up in
    every way.

    When questioned, should I become a prisoner of war, I am required to give only name, rank, service number, and date of birth. I will evade answering
    further questions to the utmost of my ability. I will make no oral or written statements disloyal to my country and its allies or harmful to their cause.

    I will never forget that I am an American, fighting for freedom, responsible for my actions, and dedicated to the principles which made my country free. I will trust in my God and in the United States of America.

    Thousands of Americans were captured, and treated as bad (or worse) than John McCain, without violating the Oath.

    Sarah Palin: Dan Quayle in Lipstick and Heels

    by The Baculum King on Wed Oct 08, 2008 at 01:00:35 PM PDT

  •  Are you fucking kidding me? (2+ / 0-)
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    Lava20, lrbreckenripple

    He's an A grade asshole!

    Do you think the hundreds of thousand of Iraqis whose lives were destroyed thanks to this warmonger and his buddies feel sorry for him?

    "Bipartisan usually means that a larger-than-usual deception is being carried out." - George Carlin, R.I.P. (1937-2008)

    by Alfonso Nevarez on Wed Oct 08, 2008 at 01:00:41 PM PDT

    •  Yes, that's my point (0+ / 0-)

      Yes, John Sidney McCain III is a grade A asshole. But he hasn't always been that way, which is my point.

      My point in the plainest way possible:

      Has the man John McCain become overshadowed the man he used to be and any good he may have done and/or any moment of heroism in his life.

      Eight years ago nobody would have this much spite and venom directed to McCain and it's all because of the campaign he decided to run. It's sad, but it's all his fault.

      Yeah. That's what I thought.

      by Some NorCal Guy on Wed Oct 08, 2008 at 01:20:53 PM PDT

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  •  Yeah, Al Gore = Fat Loser McCain = Hero (1+ / 0-)
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    Troll, begone with your stupid diary. I could not care less for John "My wife is a cunt" McCain, so you know what, take your sympathy and keep it to yourself.


    by lrbreckenripple on Wed Oct 08, 2008 at 01:12:45 PM PDT

    •  You wound me, (0+ / 0-)

      Sir, I am no troll. I've got several diaries to the contrary. My point is merely to show  that it is sad to see McCain has stooped as to become a desperate liar in order to win the white house. A man who accomlished an honorable thing forty years ago has devolved into a bitter and angry liar of an old man. I have no delusions about John McCain as a warmongering short-tempered old crow. But he has not always been that way and I for one find it sad and I feel sorry that we will only remember him for what he has become and not for what he was.

      Yeah. That's what I thought.

      by Some NorCal Guy on Wed Oct 08, 2008 at 01:26:57 PM PDT

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