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Ok.  So I'm leaping onto coat-tails here.  Kos admonishes us that we shouldn't just win, and we shouldn't just win big, but rather we should break their spirit by playing big and winning big in formerly red districts.  In CA-04, a surprisingly red district here in California, the Republican candidate, well-known conservative icon and perennial candidate Tom McClintock has had his spirits broken ....  Alone amongst local politicians, he refuses to even meet with the Sacramento daily newspaper so that he can share that right wing idealogy and so they can choose a candidate to endorse.  More below.

Readers of this site are familiar with this race.  A fair synonpsis:

California 4th: California conservative icon Tom McClintock has carpetbagged 400 miles to try and win this heavily Republican open seat. If Charlie Brown wins, it would be the sixth-most conservative district held by a Democrat — a real blow to California Republicans.

It is a heavily Republican seat.  And Tom McClintock is a conservative ideologue, who's been in the State House and Senate for the past 20 plus years and has run losing campaigns over the years for governor, lieutenant governor, state controller (twice) and Congress (for another seat, CA-24, covering Ventura just outside of Los Angeles, about 400 miles away from CA-04).  

But maybe, just maybe, this isn't the year where the usually loquacious (read:  cannot get this guy away from a tv camera or right wing radio station to espouse his right wing idealougue views) wants to share all those great ideas he has with the rest of us.  In fact, he won't even meet with the editorial board of the local newspaper, the Sacramento Bee, and today they're slamming him for it, in a post aptly titled "Desperately seeking Tom McClintock":

[F]or two hotly contested congressional races in our region, we've met with the candidates -- or at least most of them.  In Congressional District 3, we met incumbent Dan Lungren, a Republican, and challenger Bill Durston, a Democrat, in one-hour interviews.  Our endorsement runs tomorrow.

Congressional District 4, an open seat with the retirement of incumbent John Doolittle, is another story.  That race features Republican Tom McClintock and Democrat Charlie Brown.  

We met with Brown today.  But for weeks, we've made phone calls and sent e-mails trying to schedule Republican Tom McClintock for a one-hour interview.  We originally scheduled an endorsement for Congressional District 4 to run this Saturday, but told McClintock's campaign that we'd move it to accommodate his schedule.  Today, his campaign told us that he was "not going to participate."

The story contiunues:

[I]f a candidate wins, he or she doesn't just represent the like-minded people in his or her district. He or she has obligations to the larger public. An important part of running for and serving in office is putting one's record and persuasive skills under scrutiny. That's been a role of the press since before the Founding.  

We'd still like to meet with McClintock for the general election. And there's still time. The question is: If McClintock won't meet with editorial boards, does that bode ill if he's elected? Does it indicate a lack of willingness to engage with the larger public? What do you think?

For more info about the race, visit

And to donate to Charlie and really break their spirit, you can go here.

Originally posted to Blue Hippo Politics on Thu Oct 16, 2008 at 07:42 PM PDT.

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  •  Excellent news. (18+ / 0-)

    Thanks very much for this. What in the hell, though?

    "There is danger from all men. The only maxim of a free government ought to be to trust no man living with power to endanger the public liberty." - John Adams.

    by Joan McCarter on Thu Oct 16, 2008 at 07:46:35 PM PDT

    •  Ya darn right I'll tip ya, y'betcha geewilligers. (1+ / 0-)
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      'N goshdarnnit, ya cute little moosehugger, I'll even run ya down with a snowmachineythingey if that's what it takes.

      And hey, out here in this great northeast, you get it.  You get it that good ol' Tom McClintock has a  Alaska-size carpet bag what's going to keep ya warm in them southern Californicatin' winters, an' I wanna give a great big shout-out to all ya north Californicators for keepin' your genitals dry, and your Todds warm 'n fuzzy, and your daddies well stocked with moosemeat.

      [off camera, mic still open]  John?  John?  Did I say that right?

      If we're not willing to boldly refute the lies, the lies will stand as truth. (-6.75, -6.72)

      by cn4st4datrees on Thu Oct 16, 2008 at 09:17:55 PM PDT

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  •  this is great news!!! (7+ / 0-)


    great blog.

    Democracy forever teases us with the contrast between its ideals and its realities, between its heroic possibilities and its sorry achievements. ~Agnes Repplier

    by Rebelatheart on Thu Oct 16, 2008 at 07:52:51 PM PDT

  •  Why does California have to be the loser state of (9+ / 0-)

    the election? This election we have losers like McClintock to beat, and initiatives like Prop 8 (constitional ammendment to ban gay marriage) and I think Prop 4 (parental notification of abortion).

    What the hell is wrong with us?

    •  Wow. That's pretty funny stuff. And true. Are (5+ / 0-)

      we really gonna let Dems make great gains all across this country, and surrender territory here in CA?

    •  One word: Mormons (4+ / 0-)
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      Birdman, voracious, abrauer, bruinhoo

      The Mormons have seized on the fact that most of California's election money is going out of state this year. (Mainly for the presidential race.) They have used this vaccumn to try and push their bigoted agenda here in Cali.

      This isn't just a Californian Mormon assault on liberals, it's a national attack. We are being overwhelmed by outside of the state religious-right money.

      As for McClintock: You can take your useless SoCal ass back home and stay the fuck out of NoCal douchebag. You are going to lose.

      'Can someone die from a broken finger?' Miami Blues

      by Psychotronicman on Thu Oct 16, 2008 at 08:14:06 PM PDT

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      •  I know, what the hell? We have Wally Herger (3+ / 0-)

        to shame us in Washington. Isn't that punishment enough?

        •  California will always be a lightning rod... (2+ / 0-)
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          cn4st4datrees, voracious

          ...for these religious hypocrites. I suspect the real reason they like to come to Cali to talk smack about our 'liberal sins' is so that after their followers aren't looking these closet-cases can go out cruisin' for some gay love.

          Can't blame em'. I'm straight and even I admit Cali has some pretty good looking gay men.

          'Can someone die from a broken finger?' Miami Blues

          by Psychotronicman on Thu Oct 16, 2008 at 08:22:44 PM PDT

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      •  Hey, we don't want the fuckhead back here (3+ / 0-)

        in SoCal!

      •  It's corporate lobbyist money, they're just using (1+ / 0-)
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        ... the LDS and the Catholic Churches as convenient conduits by bringing up the dog whistle issues every election to drag the conservative religious voters to the polls.    I've tracked the money trails down. I wrote a diary about it yesterday and another follow up piece on it today.  Dear Treasurer (McClintock's)  We're holding the football, McClintock's broke

        This is why McClintock might not care to be speaking to the editorial board.  They might ask him a question about his financial difficulties.  

        As tempting as it might be to bash the Mormons, don't.  This does nothing for us.  They're being used.  Their hierarchy in Utah told them to do it and they don't really have a choice in the matter.  Well, they do have a choice, but it is a difficult thing when you're being told to do silly things as a test of religious faith.
        Some of them are acutely aware that for a person of one faith to advocate taking away the civil rights of another, based on physical characteristics, is fraught with perils for their public image. I know of no LDS marriages that destroy any sacred aspects of my personal belief system, and I'd wish they would stop picking groups of people to try to demonize.  I was much more offended when the current Republican incumbent, Doolittle, decided to go on his Latino/Hispanic/NativeAmerican/Indigenous bashing spree  in 2007, equating Mexican Americans with Al Queda terrorists, especially having researched and written so much about the Gonzogate firings of the US attorney generals to try to derail the Brent Wilkes corruption trial, which would have involved Doolittle if Wilkes' attorney could have gotten him to respond to a subpoena.  

        I've seen McClintock go off on this same line of race baiting attack, and it's disgusting, because I know these pharmaceutical and health insurance companies, plus big Oil,  are using it as a smokescreen to fight universal health care access for all lower income people.  And it's just a big power ploy by the Republican Party to make other people's lives so much more miserable.

        "Toads of Glory, slugs of joy... as he trotted down the path before a dragon ate him"-Alex Hall/ Stop McClintock

        by AmericanRiverCanyon on Thu Oct 16, 2008 at 09:43:51 PM PDT

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  •  I live 3,000 miles away (5+ / 0-)

    from CA-04, and I've given Charlie Brown some credit card love.

    You all should join me, because the ideological difference between Charlie and McClintock is probably the greatest among the few open seats this year.

    Here's where to go to do the right thing, credit-card-love-wise.

    Feel free to send a few bucks to other worthies you'll see at the link.

    The Republicans want to cut YOUR Social Security benefits.

    by devtob on Thu Oct 16, 2008 at 08:10:50 PM PDT

    •  Love right back to ya! (1+ / 0-)
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      I live 3,000 miles away from CA-04, and I've given Charlie Brown some credit card love.

      Sure hope you can make it out here sometime.

      I live in Quincy, in Charlie's district.  Usually got a couch open for visitors.

      If you're ever out my way, drop me a line (email through my DKos homepage).  I'll make breakfast for you.

      If we're not willing to boldly refute the lies, the lies will stand as truth. (-6.75, -6.72)

      by cn4st4datrees on Thu Oct 16, 2008 at 09:03:59 PM PDT

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  •  good grief! McClintock is a blockhead! (3+ / 0-)
  •  Pimping Quincy (CA-04). Pimping Quincy BBQ. (2+ / 0-)
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    tmo, AmericanRiverCanyon

    Charlie Brown will be in Quincy, California, this Saturday, October 18, at Pioneer Park (Fairgrounds Road), for an informal meet-n-greet barbeque.  Stuff your face.

    Starts at noon and goes till 3:00 p.m.

    Wanna meet me?  Just ask for Forrest.

    Oh, piss on Forrest.  C'mon up to our great country and meet Charlie Brown.

    Quincy's on Highway 70/89, about seventy-five miles up and out of Oroville into the mountains.

    We got trees, we got water, we got balloons for the kiddies.

    Tom McClintock will be conspicuously absent.

    Need better directions?  Email me: treekossack(at)gmail(dot)com.  Direct link is at my Daily Kos homepage.


    If we're not willing to boldly refute the lies, the lies will stand as truth. (-6.75, -6.72)

    by cn4st4datrees on Thu Oct 16, 2008 at 09:01:09 PM PDT

  •  Tips, heck, I'll give you a piccie (1+ / 0-)
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    Oct 2, 2008. Oroville Community Center, League of Women Voters Candidate Forum.  McClintock and staff before the forum.  Note the expression on the onlooker's faces to the right. (click on image for full view )  

    He had just come thru a crowd of chanting Charlie Brown supporters out front, and they were clearly rattled. The expression on the women's faces on the right hand side are priceless. One was there in some sort of journalistic capacity (she has a camera, too) and the other lady with the purse is really checking him out.

    The tall woman to the left in the black and white dress was at the September "press conference" PR stunt that Move America Forward put on when they released the swiftboat hanging effigy ad, and was one of the people blocking me from going into the room and taking any pictures. Catch the spike heel shoes.

    I had been there for about an hour at that point. Charlie Brown and his peeps had gotten there even earlier, and Charlie was sitting quietly in the audience watching the local city candidates have their question and answer period.  I had gone up and said hello, and was trying to set up my laptop to take notes- I tried liveblogging it here but the diary editor was not letting me post so I ended up putting it over on progressive blue.  My husband had my little videocam, and he was assigned that, so I could wander around and take still pictures.  
    The picture that I didn't take, that I wished I had, was of people coming into the room, looking around, and then very quietly going over and standing behind Charlie Brown, sitting in the back,  and listening to the debate for awhile before they left.  I am just kicking myself for not getting that picture.  But I can describe the scene.  He had a whole bunch of firefighters just standing there behind him at one point and probably didn't know it.  I made eye contact.  They were smiling.

    "Toads of Glory, slugs of joy... as he trotted down the path before a dragon ate him"-Alex Hall/ Stop McClintock

    by AmericanRiverCanyon on Thu Oct 16, 2008 at 09:02:01 PM PDT

    •  Arh, arh, arh! (1+ / 0-)
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      That gal to the right (in the full picture, not seen above) seems to be saying

      "Do I even want to go over there?"

      Clearly, she does not.

      BTW, good ol' Tom came to town (Quincy, CA) the other night (Friday, October 10), to square off against Charlie in a town-hall style debate sponsored by the California League of Women Voters, with co-sponsors Quincy Chamber of Commerce and Feather River College political science department.

      I diaried it.  Tom McClintock Blew Me Off Tonight.

      Be my guest if you want to know more about how McClintock handles a knowledgeable voter.

      If we're not willing to boldly refute the lies, the lies will stand as truth. (-6.75, -6.72)

      by cn4st4datrees on Thu Oct 16, 2008 at 09:30:38 PM PDT

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  •  I wonder how Ose is feeling right now (1+ / 0-)
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    Zack from the SFV

    For right wing Republicans, the objective is to win primary elections.  Moderate Republicans that might add some impurities to their precious ideology must be defeated.  General elections?  Well, if it works out, fine.  If not, we can complain about Democrats.

    Because of people like McClintock, the Republican Party is no longer viable in the California.  Soon it will wither away and something new will emerge. I don't know what a one party system looks like and I doubt that I would like it.  But the GOP is heading into the dustbin of history.

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