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Blogger Interrupted has captured the audio of a robocall, paid for by the Ohio Republican Party, in which Ohio state representative Kevine DeWine claims that Democrats will steal the election:

Your vote is critical to the combat the Democrats' plan to swell up voter rolls with bogus voters and rig the election.

This is the same Ohio Republican Party that used every effort--legal and illegal--to purge Democrats from voter rolls in 2004.  This is the same Ohio Republican Party that cheered when Kenneth Blackwell said he was going to "deliver" Ohio's electoral votes for Bush in 2004.  This is the same Ohio Republican Party that is seeking to prevent newly registered voters from voting in this landmark election.

This is the same Ohio GOP, employing the same disgusting tactics and belching out the same tired lie that it is Democrats, and not Republicans, who are subverting the electoral process.

It's the same shady politics as 2004.  Let's make sure that Ohio yields a different result this time around.

Donate your time, donate your money.

Leave everything on the road.

Originally posted to Daily Kos on Mon Oct 20, 2008 at 08:35 AM PDT.

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  •  Total chuztpah (16+ / 0-)
    They steal the 2000 election outright in Florida and on the Supreme court, yet complain when they are about to trounced?  Unreal.
    •  Beyond pathetic (5+ / 0-)

      This downward spiral of not trusting American elections (by both sides) is not the path towards a better democracy.  

    •  Thank you for this diary! (2+ / 0-)
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      Ahianne, OhioNatureMom

      Yes, chutzpah indeed. Now the world can see exactly what sort of pathetic baby whiners the Ohio GOP and its current deputy chairman and future chairman, l'il Kevvy Whiny, are. Boo hoo hoo, Kevvy. Listen: why don't you go out and find me one of these bogus voters? I'll even make you a bet that after election day, you cannot find more than single digits of such voters- if indeed any at all. If I win, you have to kiss Chris Redfern's feet in front of the Statehouse at high noon on a day of my choosing. (For non-Ohioans, Redfern is the state Dem chair, aggressive and a little cocky, who has, with the full support of the DNC, implemented here in the last 3 years an 88-state strategy that echoes Howard Dean's 50-state strategy. This was what enabled the Obama campaign or would have enabled the Hillary campaign to come into Ohio and find infrastructure and grassroots already in place to hook up with his campaign. Kevvy not like.)

      Ohio Republicans are the biggest bunch of babies. They gutted the state for 16 years in which they controlled everything (1990-2006) and now they just can't believe people are waking up to them. Sad.

      We're retiring Steve LaTourette (R-Family Values for You But Not for Me) and sending Judge Bill O'Neill to Congress from Ohio-14: http://www.oneill08.com/

      by anastasia p on Mon Oct 20, 2008 at 08:59:23 AM PDT

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      •  Sorry for the strike-through (1+ / 0-)
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        Ahianne

        It was unintended. Redfern refused to endorse in the primary specifically because he said the state organization should be ready to immediately throw its strength behind whoever was the nominee.

        We're retiring Steve LaTourette (R-Family Values for You But Not for Me) and sending Judge Bill O'Neill to Congress from Ohio-14: http://www.oneill08.com/

        by anastasia p on Mon Oct 20, 2008 at 09:02:58 AM PDT

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      •  I listened to Diane Rehm this morning. (2+ / 0-)
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        RunawayRose, OhioNatureMom

        The first hour was about the ACORN controversy, with a rep from them, a journalist who has been covering the matter, and a Republican shill. The shill was desperately trying to throw mud where there was none; the others pointed out the thinness of his allegations versus the Rethug's long record of vote supression. It's not just Ohio, it's nationwide, but the Whiner and his accomplices are our particular burden.

        Another OWW4O (thanks, Cyber Kat!)

        by Ahianne on Mon Oct 20, 2008 at 09:10:43 AM PDT

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    •  Someone call the Waaaaaaaahmbulance! (0+ / 0-)

      REPUBLICANS: The Older White Meat.

      by AdmiralNaismith on Mon Oct 20, 2008 at 09:26:18 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  Bank your vote. VOTE EARLY and SPREAD the word!! (0+ / 0-)

      http://www.dailykos.com/...

      I think you'll enjoy this YouTube video we just put together about Vote Today Ohio. It's called "Finish the Job." Turn on your speakers or plug in your headphones, and click the still frame below.

      Free Image Hosting at www.ImageShack.us

      Our message is simple: Obama needs our help to finish the job in Ohio.

      Winning here will take hard work. During "Golden Week" (Sept. 30 - Oct. 6, a week of same day registration and voting), we brought 3300 voters from under-represented communities to the polls -- many of whom wouldn't have voted without our help.

  •  Every time I hear the GOP whine about Ohio, (8+ / 0-)

    I remember Rush Limbaugh in 2004 saying that the Democrats just couldn't understand why people wouldn't vote for them, so they accuse people of stealing the election.

    "My greatest weakness? It's possible that I am a little too awesome." --- Barack Obama

    by Shelbyville Manhattan on Mon Oct 20, 2008 at 08:37:02 AM PDT

    •  And I will always remember (2+ / 0-)
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      Ahianne, OhioNatureMom

      the media in Ohio calling any suggestion that there were problems with the election "sour grapes' and "conspiracy theories" and the GOP dismissing them as the outpouring of "sour losers." And I remember Kenny Blackwell releasing a statement that spit in the face of voters, saying the "election ran smoothly and every person who wanted to vote got to vote" (an egregious, provable lie. So we kicked your sorry butt in 2006, didn't we, Kenny? And on November 4, we are going to hopefully give l'il Kevvy a lot more to whine about.

      We're retiring Steve LaTourette (R-Family Values for You But Not for Me) and sending Judge Bill O'Neill to Congress from Ohio-14: http://www.oneill08.com/

      by anastasia p on Mon Oct 20, 2008 at 09:01:57 AM PDT

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      •  I remember (2+ / 0-)
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        RunawayRose, OhioNatureMom

        ..people standing in cold November rain for hours, trying to vote. How many votes were lost because some couldn't wait that long? I'm thinking it's time to call vote supression criminal behavior, and enforce a/o enact laws so that we can nail these bastards.

        Another OWW4O (thanks, Cyber Kat!)

        by Ahianne on Mon Oct 20, 2008 at 09:17:42 AM PDT

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        •  We can provide security at polling places (3+ / 0-)
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          RunawayRose, Ahianne, OhioNatureMom

          And eject troublemakers who come into Democratic precincts to try and cause delays by challenging all the dusky-hued voters.

          REPUBLICANS: The Older White Meat.

          by AdmiralNaismith on Mon Oct 20, 2008 at 09:29:28 AM PDT

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          •  Not needed (3+ / 0-)
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            AdmiralNaismith, RunawayRose, Ahianne

            Challengers are now illegal. Observers are allowed, but must be approved and have paperwork and be sworn in. They cannot interfere with the voting process in any way. Only a pollworker may challenge a voter. Polling location coordinators are tasked with ejecting any observer who violates the non-interference rule. A challenger can't even get in the door.

            We're retiring Steve LaTourette (R-Family Values for You But Not for Me) and sending Judge Bill O'Neill to Congress from Ohio-14: http://www.oneill08.com/

            by anastasia p on Mon Oct 20, 2008 at 09:55:46 AM PDT

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        •  I agree (2+ / 0-)
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          RunawayRose, Ahianne

          I think any attempt to suppress the vote or to mislead voters in any way should be a criminal felony. Tens of thousands of voters were likely lost that way in Cleveland and Columbus, if not more. It could possibly have been enough to make up Bush's tiny margin of victory (slightly more than 188,000 votes).

          We're retiring Steve LaTourette (R-Family Values for You But Not for Me) and sending Judge Bill O'Neill to Congress from Ohio-14: http://www.oneill08.com/

          by anastasia p on Mon Oct 20, 2008 at 09:54:04 AM PDT

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      •  Small correction tho (0+ / 0-)
        While Blackwell was certaibnly dedicated to delivering Ohio's votes to Bush, the person who created a scandal by saying so was Diebold CEO and Bush supporter Wally O'Dell.
    •  this is all done in an attempt (1+ / 0-)
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      OhioNatureMom

      to rally the base and get them to the polls. That's all this is. They don't believe a word of it. Don't get pissed, get even and then some. Pull every one of your friends and family members to the polls and get to work getting others to the poll.

    •  The main thing I remember: (1+ / 0-)
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      OhioNatureMom

      "You lost. Get over it."

      I got a feeling I'll be dusting off that line for frequent use soon.

      REPUBLICANS: The Older White Meat.

      by AdmiralNaismith on Mon Oct 20, 2008 at 09:28:18 AM PDT

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  •  GOP: (13+ / 0-)

    Project Much?

    What they claim is frequently (reliably!) what they're doing.

    The fundamental business of the country... is on a sound and prosperous basis. Hoover, 1929 The fundamentals of our economy are strong. McCain, 2008

    by ogre on Mon Oct 20, 2008 at 08:37:11 AM PDT

  •  The funny thing about this (5+ / 0-)

    Is that this tends to delegitimize the result, already admitting they've lost and the only reason they'll lose is we cheated...

    "Polls are like crack, political activists know they're bad for them but they read them anyways."-Unknown

    by skywaker9 on Mon Oct 20, 2008 at 08:37:56 AM PDT

  •  Will this ad be countered by one of ours? (2+ / 0-)
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    skywaker9, Crabby Abbey

    Also, has anyone heard the Dem SOS speak about what has gone on?  What are the big Ohio newspapers saying?  Seems to me this issue could really hurt us?

    We need Special Prosecutors. NOW.

    by CalDoc on Mon Oct 20, 2008 at 08:38:10 AM PDT

    •  I don't think it will (3+ / 0-)
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      CalDoc, wishingwell, RadioGirl

      It gets their base pissed but that's about it..

      "Polls are like crack, political activists know they're bad for them but they read them anyways."-Unknown

      by skywaker9 on Mon Oct 20, 2008 at 08:38:57 AM PDT

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    •  You worry too much (2+ / 0-)
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      CalDoc, Ahianne

      SoS Jennifer Brunner is very sharp, much sharper than l'il Kevvy DeWhiny. The big Ohio newspapers are all ultra-conservative and have been blowing this up like crazy. The Cleveland Plainly Republican (Plain Dealer) has followed an interesting trajectory. They reported the charges against Acorn in August and more or less debunked them, since they were obviously false, and this was before the GOP was flogging them. When the GOP started flogging them, they again front-paged the stories and inflated them, even though they were forced to include quotes from the two Republican members of our county board of elections saying there was no problem because Mickey and his friends would never be able to vote. I think now they are backtracking again. The Plainly Republican is in a tizzy. I'm trying to figure out why they endorsed Obama yesterday after more than six months of open campaigning, even in news stories, for McCain. In the last month, they have put a poll that showed McCain leading in Ohio on the front page of the SUnday paper twice with a giant type-size headline. They bury any poll with Obama leading in Ohio deep inside. That's only a sample.

      We're retiring Steve LaTourette (R-Family Values for You But Not for Me) and sending Judge Bill O'Neill to Congress from Ohio-14: http://www.oneill08.com/

      by anastasia p on Mon Oct 20, 2008 at 09:06:51 AM PDT

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  •  Call 614-228-2481 (7+ / 0-)

    And tell the Ohio Republican Party to stop lying.

  •  Diebold not coming thru this time? (4+ / 0-)
    •  Diebold didn't "come through" last time either (1+ / 0-)
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      Ahianne

      As virtually no touchscreens were being used in Ohio in 2004. My county, Cuyahoga, is the largest and we were on punch cards

      We're retiring Steve LaTourette (R-Family Values for You But Not for Me) and sending Judge Bill O'Neill to Congress from Ohio-14: http://www.oneill08.com/

      by anastasia p on Mon Oct 20, 2008 at 09:09:56 AM PDT

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  •  Un-American (3+ / 0-)
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    RadioGirl, Crabby Abbey, Coilette

    Voting is a right - those who try to take it away should be in prison.

  •  Projection is the major (4+ / 0-)
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    skywaker9, WI Dem, RadioGirl, Crabby Abbey

    offense mechanism (and defense mechanism) of abusers.

    If the shoe fits, shove it!

  •  Pimping my diary (0+ / 0-)

    I'm really, really sorry to do this, but this is relevant. I posted this last night, and lots of people read and commented with excellent things to say. Anyway, one of the two local field organizers, who grew up in Florida, moved here in September and has registered to vote and voted early. A Fox News wannabe is trying to turn this into a great example of voter fraud, and a bunch of locals have taken to threatening him online: http://www.dailykos.com/...

    If I did something egregious by posting this link, please admonish me nicely!

    •  Well. I just scolded someone upthread (1+ / 0-)
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      RunawayRose

      ..for diary pimping, but there is one significant difference. Your diary (I read it last night) is directly related to the topic of this story. Just don't overdo it.

      Another OWW4O (thanks, Cyber Kat!)

      by Ahianne on Mon Oct 20, 2008 at 09:23:06 AM PDT

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  •  In keeping with the trend of this campaign (1+ / 0-)
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    Ahianne

    The fact that they're accusing us of doing it means they did it first...

    "Polls are like crack, political activists know they're bad for them but they read them anyways."-Unknown

    by skywaker9 on Mon Oct 20, 2008 at 08:39:49 AM PDT

  •  Sometimes, you just have to laugh. (9+ / 0-)

    Really.  I'm an Ohioan.  I saw what happened here four years ago...I carefully followed all the details of the Tom Noe case...remember him?  He's now serving federal time for violating campaign contribution laws.  And he's just the tip of the iceberg.

    If it makes anyone feel better, yesterday evening I talked to my mother who lives in a small town in Ohio.  Obama's "ground game" is going strong...she's had two people show up at her door.  Better still, she said that in her neighborhood, and many  neighborhoods like hers, Obama signs and bumperstickers are out numbering McCain signs and bumper stickers by at least 3-1.  On the anecdotal side, she told me that at least five people who voted for Bush in 2004 are voting for Obama.  And hold on...these are all people in their 70's and beyond.

  •  And still the MSM won't cover (2+ / 0-)
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    skywaker9, WI Dem

    this, and related stories.  Pathetic.  The Republicans use a strategy of "all lies, all the time" and still we get this idiotic "false equivalency" in what masquerades as reporting.  

    ...just another hooligan from the droogie clique

    by RadioGirl on Mon Oct 20, 2008 at 08:40:09 AM PDT

  •  How can you steal an election (6+ / 0-)

    you are overwhelmingly PWNING??????

  •  "Projection" (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Julie Gulden, WI Dem

    A favorite of McCain and the Republicans - projection. They accuse Dems of doing the nasty when in fact they have done it. Republicans let us know what they are about to do  - they first accuse Dems of doing it.

    Are you still registered to vote? http://www.votersunite.org/info/RegInfo.asp

    by mrobinson on Mon Oct 20, 2008 at 08:40:53 AM PDT

  •  shady-ass characters (1+ / 0-)
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    WI Dem

    These people will stoop to anything to sabotage an election. Projection much?

    -7.38, -5.23 The wait is over. Sen. Obama, walk into your season. It's your time.

    by CocoaLove on Mon Oct 20, 2008 at 08:41:10 AM PDT

  •  Lock these bastards up. (3+ / 0-)
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    Ahianne, anastasia p, WI Dem

    Why is Ken Blackwell still a free man?
    Lock him up.

    2008, the Year the Republican Party dissolved into a puddle of goo

    by shpilk on Mon Oct 20, 2008 at 08:41:13 AM PDT

  •  What if Democrats did this? (0+ / 0-)

    Seriously, if they did robocalls about how e-voting might steal your franchise or how Republicans were purging rolls, Fox News would announce that the moonbats had taken over.

  •  We bought the voting machine companies? (1+ / 0-)
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    SecondComing

    When did that happen?

  •  This is maddening (1+ / 0-)
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    flumptytail

    You can always tell what the rethugs are up to...they accuse us of being or doing whatever they are being or doing. Heh.
    What a bunch of hypocrites. Wow. We need to kick their asses so bad! Hmmm, maybe the news of Obama's legion of lawyers is scaring them.

  •  "Rigging" as defined by Republican Newspeak (2+ / 0-)
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    Ahianne, flumptytail

    "Making the election fair in a way that causes the Republicans to lose."

  •  they've got a lot of nerve... (1+ / 0-)
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    Ahianne

    ... claiming this, after the incredible number of Republicans I've heard bitching about how "Democrats always claim the election was rigged to explain their losses, meh meh meh."

    The election hasn't even happened yet, and they're already getting that meme ready.  And they keep complaining about Acorn as if it were huge, and as if the bogus voters they signed up were actually going to vote.  When they start finding that "Mickey Mouse" has actually cast a vote, then it's fraud.  Until then, it's just a company with bad business practices.

    "Does anybody know what the difference between a bulldog and a hockey mom is? The bulldog gets vetted!" - Bob Barr

    by Front Toward Enemy on Mon Oct 20, 2008 at 08:42:24 AM PDT

  •  nitpick (0+ / 0-)

    Wasn't it Walden O'Dell who said that he was committed to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to Bush? Blackwell said something afterwards about helping to deliver a strong effort on Issue 1, or something like that. Or maybe he said this too.

    •  it was both, is my understanding (2+ / 0-)
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      SecondComing, HudsonValleyMark

      But you are correct, O'Dell was more explicit. But Blackwell reiterated the same.

      It's possible I'm a little too awesome - Barack Obama, 10/16/08

      by Georgia Logothetis on Mon Oct 20, 2008 at 08:47:10 AM PDT

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    •  No, Blackwell didn't say something afterwards (1+ / 0-)
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      Ahianne

      He said it BEFORE. As SoS overseeing the elections he stumped the state on behalf of Issue 1 saying gays were worse than barnyard animals. He made robocalls the weekend before on its beahlf using his position as an elected official!!!! I have a dent in my wall where I threw my telephone receiver.
      Oh, and he was state co-chair of the Bush-Cheney campaign.

      Now they have the gall to call Jennifer Brunner partisan? What a laugh! She has followed through on her promise not to endorse or become involved in any campaign, not even the contentious primary when a lot of people wanted her to come out for Hillary (Or Obama, but I think she was Hillary supporter)

      We're retiring Steve LaTourette (R-Family Values for You But Not for Me) and sending Judge Bill O'Neill to Congress from Ohio-14: http://www.oneill08.com/

      by anastasia p on Mon Oct 20, 2008 at 09:16:18 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  we may be talking past each other (0+ / 0-)

        I was asking specifically about georgia10's statement that "Kenneth Blackwell said he was going to 'deliver' Ohio's electoral votes for Bush in 2004." Not the same question as whether he campaigned for Bush and/or for Issue 1.

        Yeah, it's pretty ridiculous (albeit predictable) that they are tarring Brunner as a partisan.

  •  Just remember (0+ / 0-)

    This is what these folks think is a good idea:

    "Polls are like crack, political activists know they're bad for them but they read them anyways."-Unknown

    by skywaker9 on Mon Oct 20, 2008 at 08:42:59 AM PDT

  •  Proof Republicans are Rigging the Election (2+ / 0-)
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    skywaker9, feduphoosier

    The #1 Republican tactic is to blame their enemies for Republican bad action. Look at every single attack Republicans have made on Democrats since Reagan/Bush stole into power. Every single attack is the devastating truth about Republicans, but the party names swapped to attack Democrats. Because Republicans know that Americans will notice that someone is doing these bad things, because the effects of these bad acts on America's wellbeing are obvious and undeniable. So instead Republicans just take the cheaper route and blame Democrats. Which is entirely feasible, since Democrats are so unable to either defend themselves simply or to counterattack Republicans with those charges.

    It's "premptive blame transfer", which is the "Bush Doctrine" in its most essential form.

    Republicans have made lies about Democratic election fraud into one of their top campaign strategies. Therefore, along with lies about judgement and experience, lies about "socialism", lies about healthcare, lies about terrorist associations, these lies about election fraud are exactly the same: actually true about Republicans.

    "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - HST

    by DocGonzo on Mon Oct 20, 2008 at 08:43:01 AM PDT

    •  No it's proof (0+ / 0-)

      they no longer have "rigging" ower so they have to throw around wild charges to create chaos in the process.

      We're retiring Steve LaTourette (R-Family Values for You But Not for Me) and sending Judge Bill O'Neill to Congress from Ohio-14: http://www.oneill08.com/

      by anastasia p on Mon Oct 20, 2008 at 09:17:07 AM PDT

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      •  Why Not? (0+ / 0-)

        Why would these reversed charges be the only exception to all of their unbroken history of denial projection? What evidence is there that they've lost any of their rigging power that they used successfully through this decade?

        "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - HST

        by DocGonzo on Mon Oct 20, 2008 at 09:19:55 AM PDT

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        •  They've lost rigging power in ohio (1+ / 0-)
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          DocGonzo

          becuase the rigging was done by the Secretary of State. He has been replaced. They are throwing a tantrum about the fact that she has worked hard to try to assure that as many people as possibly get to vote with as much easy as possible. They hate hate HATE that.

          We're retiring Steve LaTourette (R-Family Values for You But Not for Me) and sending Judge Bill O'Neill to Congress from Ohio-14: http://www.oneill08.com/

          by anastasia p on Mon Oct 20, 2008 at 09:57:12 AM PDT

          [ Parent ]

          •  Some, But Enough? (0+ / 0-)

            I think you're right, but Republicans had quite a lot of rigging power, especially in Ohio. I don't think they've lost it all, just losing major battles. Perhaps enough. We won't know until it's over.

            "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - HST

            by DocGonzo on Mon Oct 20, 2008 at 11:17:53 AM PDT

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  •  Who knew that the Repubs are now the party (1+ / 0-)
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    Silence is Complicity

    worried about voter issues... What's next universal health care?  It's so hilarious watching them whine about voter fraud after everything the past 2 elections.. Ahhh poor guys and tell me all about it..

    "If a free society cannot help the many who are poor, it cannot save the few who are rich." JFK (1917-1963)

    by ebbinflo on Mon Oct 20, 2008 at 08:44:19 AM PDT

  •  Done (3+ / 0-)

    Donate your time, donate your money.

    I think we're covered on the money part.  $150 million is astonishing.

    I'm so excited about voting that I'm taking a vacation day to vote early and make a few calls.

    "The Only Thing We Have to Fear Is Fear Itself" - Franklin Delano Roosevelt

    by djbender on Mon Oct 20, 2008 at 08:44:24 AM PDT

  •  Same Ohio party who had oddities happen (1+ / 0-)
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    Ahianne

    in 2005 and 2006 in Mean Jean Schmidt's area too.  Remember the sudden blackouts? And then a miraculous Schmidt win?

    •  maybe Cayahoga county will have another (0+ / 0-)

      terrist alert in the middle of vote counting, to weed out all those fake dem votes

      •  That wasn't cuyahoga (1+ / 0-)
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        Ahianne

        which would have caused an immense meltdown and delayed the state results for days. It was rural Warren county.

        We're retiring Steve LaTourette (R-Family Values for You But Not for Me) and sending Judge Bill O'Neill to Congress from Ohio-14: http://www.oneill08.com/

        by anastasia p on Mon Oct 20, 2008 at 09:19:36 AM PDT

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    •  I do remember (1+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      Ahianne

      in 2005 the delayed returns in Scrunchie's home county, Clermont, supposedly on account of "dampness," that came in late and put her on top over Paul Hackett.

      We're retiring Steve LaTourette (R-Family Values for You But Not for Me) and sending Judge Bill O'Neill to Congress from Ohio-14: http://www.oneill08.com/

      by anastasia p on Mon Oct 20, 2008 at 09:18:39 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  btw..if making sure EVERYONE can vote is rigging (0+ / 0-)

    then it's no wonder that SUPRESSING THE VOTE by every illegal and legal means possible is considered fair game.

  •  Oh this just chaps my ass. (1+ / 0-)
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    Ahianne

    I complained to the WI McCain headquarters yesterday about the 3 robocalls we've received.  After denying "they" had anything to do with it, the guy hung up on me.  I sent an email to the Republican National party and as someone else suggested, I'm going to write a letter to the editor of our paper.

    Just disgusting.  Asshats all!

  •  Letters to the Editor please (1+ / 0-)
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    flumptytail

    Plus e-mails to any official of any level including city Mayors, council members, etc. you can find in Ohio. Let them know we don't appreciate slander in the Democratic Party. Do it right now if you can!

  •  Can someone ask the GOoPers (3+ / 0-)
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    Ahianne, kefauver, Churchill
    to explain how "bogus" voter registrations can steal an election? (And, yes, I am fully aware the the Democratic Party HAS NOT registered bogus voters and that the ACORN scron is right-wing hyperbole. So ignore that obvious flaw in the GOP whine.)

    Because even if 10 trillion new voters registered in Indiana, it doesn't change the outcome of ANY elections. Until an individual commits voter fraud, there is no effect on the election.

    "She was very young,he thought,...she did not understand that to push an inconvenient person over a cliff solves nothing." -1984

    by aggressiveprogressive on Mon Oct 20, 2008 at 08:47:23 AM PDT

  •  I guess that TRUE VOTER FRAUD... (1+ / 0-)
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    does happen.  Wouldn't you know it...the first person to be arrested for this is a REPUBLICAN from California. See:

    http://www.latimes.com/...

  •  This is why I no longer answer my phone (4+ / 0-)

    unless I know who is calling.

    And I've already early voted here in Ohio, and am planning to take election day off to volunteer all day.

  •  If you haven't volunteered yet, then please - for (4+ / 0-)

    the Love of everything Good and Holy - do it now!

    What are you waiting for? THIS IS IT! This is the big game - Super Bowl, World Series and the Stanley Cup all in one.

    It's the ninth inning, the bases are loaded, and it's all up to you...

    Uncle Sam Pictures, Images and Photos

    Want some inspiration? Keep repeating these words:

    "President Palin"

    palin women's rights foes Pictures, Images and Photos

  •  "not authorized by any candidate?" (1+ / 0-)
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    Ahianne

    I imagine that State Representative Kevin DeWine doesn't approve of the ad either.

    Surreal.

    Sort of like the television commerical with the woman eating a five dollar bill with the tiny subtitle - Do not attempt.

    You have selected "clumsy bludgeoning." For $10.oo would you like your eyes scooped out with a melon-baller? You are now dead.

    by SecondComing on Mon Oct 20, 2008 at 08:52:05 AM PDT

  •  DeWine is McCain's Ohio Chair? (0+ / 0-)

    Is McCain trying to lose?

    Owning a home is a success. Owning seven homes is excess.

    by kefauver on Mon Oct 20, 2008 at 08:52:34 AM PDT

  •  It is a post election position (0+ / 0-)

    This is an attempt to inject the narrative "they stole the election" into the post election environment, therefor de-legitimizing an Omama win.   It allows conservatives all over the country to chant the mantra "they rigged the voting machines in Ohio" therefore Obama is not MY president.  Listen for the first notes of this refrain to be sung by Rush, Sean Hannity et all shortly after the polls close, the rest of the mindless republican songbirds will chime right in!

  •  McCain tried to get tlak radio guy fired (0+ / 0-)

    Talk Show Guy Tom Leykis in 1995 Phoenix had a run in with McCain.  McCain was scheduled to come on his show and talk about some boring political stuff.  Anyway, McCain didn't show up and didn't call.  His show hear him on a competitor's talk radio show.  Leykis heard about it and started kidding McCain about it on the air, not nearly as bad as Letterman did, but just some good-natured kidding.  Anyway, the kidding went on for a few days.  I guess Leykis should have let is slide, but he kept it up.  

    Anyway, McCain called the station manager and tried to get Leykis fired.  He was very mad about the whole thing.  Anyway, McCain only likes free speech when the media is in his pocket.  Leykis was just rubbing it is for not going on his show, which is what talk radio show people do.  Leykis is a liberal, but was sort of a right-winger back then, to fit into the Phoenix area.

    Leykis' radio show is now called Blow me up tom.  He talks about women and poontag.  It's just sort of a man show on the radio, but he covers politics during the elections a little bit.

    80 percent of success is just showing up - Woody Allen.

    by Churchill on Mon Oct 20, 2008 at 08:57:56 AM PDT

  •  McCain tried to get TalkRadioGuy Tom Leykis fired (0+ / 0-)

    80 percent of success is just showing up - Woody Allen.

    by Churchill on Mon Oct 20, 2008 at 08:58:37 AM PDT

  •  Yes, Democratic corruption is the October surpris (0+ / 0-)

    e in Ohio. It's not the robocalls alone -- new huge Democratic scandals are being revealed in the Ohio papers every day. I've diaried this at http://www.dailykos.com/...

    The problem is that the Democratic corruption is real, and painfully known to voters in Ohio. You can't accuse the Republicans of guilt for pointing the finger at real fraud, corruption, and abuse. And the phony charges, like those leveled at SOS Brunner, get camouflaged amidst the legitimate accusations.

    Nor can you simply point to the Republican corruption in the state. That's just not an answer. The fact is that we have TWO thoroughly corrupt major parties in the state of Ohio. That is why Ohio voters hunger for a potent third party movement, and why a strong Indpendent will help Jean Schmidt get reelected in OH-02

    In short, the ODP asked for this be neglecting the corruption in the party all this time, and by merely pointing fingers at the other party.

    And the Obama campaign made a tragic error in July, when it chose to merge with the ODP, rather than maintain a separate campaign operation.

    That, in a nutshell, is why Obama's margin in Ohio is running more than ten points behind what it is in Michigan and Pennsylvania.

    Many months ago I warned that Democratic corruption would be the GOP October surprise in Ohio. It was easy to see, and the party apologists are simply steeped in denial.

    Will it take losing Ohio again to finally wake people up? That, at least, is what many Ohio voters are thinking, and why the polls stay locked at an even race. The voters want a pox on both parties.

    •  You need to be careful (0+ / 0-)

      about recklessly throwing around charges of "Democratic corruption" and having our efforts founder on the grounds that "they're all the same." Sorry, pal, they're not. Some local Dem corruption? Absolutely. I'm in Cuyahoga county. On a state level?  Point out to me the widespread corruption on the level of Taft-Blackwell-Montgomery-Petro-McDonnell when every statewide official was on the take and helping to gut our state and hand over its resources to cronies and contributors. Now? Even our Cleveland Plainly Republican was forced to run a story recently about how Gov. Ted Strickland is returning any gift that costs more than $25 even honorary degrees! Jennifer Brunner and Rich Cordray are above reproach. Lee Fisher, our lt. gov, who heads the economic redevelopment effort, has never been suspected of anything.

      And I should point out that for all the showiness of the FBI raids on the offices of Cuyahoga County Dems Jimmy Dimora and Frank Russo, no charges have been filed. I'm not the hugest Dimora fan in the world but for the Plainly Republican to demand his resignation just because of a dramatic FBI raid, probably driven by the completely compromised Bush "justice department"when they never called for Taft to resign after he pleaded guilty, is just insulting.

      We're retiring Steve LaTourette (R-Family Values for You But Not for Me) and sending Judge Bill O'Neill to Congress from Ohio-14: http://www.oneill08.com/

      by anastasia p on Mon Oct 20, 2008 at 09:48:39 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  Who exactly are you fooling? (0+ / 0-)

        You think the populace does not know what's been going on in this state? Ok, maybe the ODOT stripper kickback scandal and the housing authority scandals in Cuyahoga County are total fabrications. It's your county -- you know better. But those kinds of things have been happening all over the state under Democratic county administrations.

        Read my diary, or the newspapers -- DUI arrestees released for payoffs in Democratic Waverly, a totally corrupt City Center project in Democratic Portsmouth, protestors in Columbus demanding investigation of the corrupt state family court system. And your squeaky clean Mr. Strickland accepted $10,000 in campaign contributions from Cleveland "entrepreneur" Dan Moore, while at the same time endorsing Mr. Moore's application for a $5 million dollar federal grant.

        So, pal, am I making all of that up? Are people supposed to forget it all and vote a straight Democratic ticket in two weeks anyway? Are we shocked, shocked, to discover that such things happen in Ohio? And does it really take Republican robocalls to point them out?

        Any sentient being could have seen this coming. The answer is not further denial -- it's a public commitment to clean up the party. And now, two weeks before the election, is exactly the proper time to start.

  •  The Rest of the Story (0+ / 0-)

    It does not matter how many people vote Democratic in Ohio, because all their votes will be changed to Republican by the machines.

  •  Gotta love .. (0+ / 0-)

    Obama's  body language.  You can tell he is steaming when McLame does his air quotes 'health of the mother" stick but Obama takes a drink of water and settles in .  You can tell he just wants to say screw you but the calm cool collected Obama does what he does best, let's McCain hang himself with his own words.  
    Women we have come too far to let this nasty old man take our rights away.
    Get out the vote!!
    Obama/Biden '08

  •  Whine whine (0+ / 0-)

    Snivel snivel

    Bitch bitch

    Piss and moan.

    It's a real drag getting your ass handed to you due to people recognizing your abject failure on every imaginable level.

    Of course they're going to invent excuses. It's what every toddler does when faced with unpleasant reality. Most "Conservatives" never grew up.

    Why trust the scientific method when you can believe that the Easter Bunny is sitting on a cloud waiting to come give you free-market candy?

    You have selected "clumsy bludgeoning." For $10.oo would you like your eyes scooped out with a melon-baller? You are now dead.

    by SecondComing on Mon Oct 20, 2008 at 09:08:45 AM PDT

  •  Letter to the editor-Wisconsin State Journal (1+ / 0-)
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    Editors, The Wisconsin State Journal

    We are quite disturbed at the level of vitriol in this year's presidential election.  We hear of McCain/Palin supporters yelling "terrorist" and "kill him" at rallies; we see pictures of McCain supporters carrying monkeys with Obama stickers attached; we read stories of a McCain supporter using a noose to hang a "ghost" with Obama written on it.  

    This kind of hatred and race-baiting frenzy should be stopped immediately.  When asked about it McCain has taken a victim stance and claimed he's heard just as bad from the Obama rallies.

    The last straw for our household was receiving three McCain/Palin robocalls in the past few days.  What we heard was a warning that Obama is "friends with
    terrorists" and an Obama presidency will put our democracy in jeopardy.

    We understand that elections can get down and dirty.  But creating divisiveness, using covert racism (or overt) and fear in attempts to sway an election is the greatest threat to our beloved country.  We need leadership not hot-headed and heavy-handed politicking.

    McCain campaign - stop the hate.

    Sincerely,

    (juslikagrzly and RavingRev)

  •  Typical mechanism of distraction... (0+ / 0-)

    This is all too typical - Attempt to create a buzz by accusing the opposition of doing something that you are already quietly doing, in the hope that it will be believed and distract the voters from your actions.

    Somehow, people have forgotten that a false voter registration is not the same as a false vote. A real person has to show up and successfully vote under a false registration for a vote to be recorded. Most of these are prevented at the polling place by the usual, routine record checks.

    "...Reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." Richard Feynman

    by QuestionAuthority on Mon Oct 20, 2008 at 09:13:24 AM PDT

  •  does anybody buy this crap? (0+ / 0-)

    maybe it rallies the lunatic fringe, but I would think that would turn off most people.

  •  General Powell, I'm with you, dude... (0+ / 0-)

    You are the Maximum.  Bless you, sir.

  •  I'll be there! (2+ / 0-)
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    Ahianne, flumptytail

    On my way Ohio to bury those punks McCain-Palin.

    It's time to put the punks McCain-Palin away (GOTV!).

    by noofsh on Mon Oct 20, 2008 at 09:22:38 AM PDT

  •  We have always been at war with Eastasia. (0+ / 0-)

    I hope the polling places in Cleveland, Toledo, and Columbus have good security.  The GOP intends to send a small army of professional harrassment experts to Democratic precincts with the sole purpose of causing long waits at the polls by challenging each and every voter and making nuisances of themselves.  

    Having some people on hand to escort troublemakers out and keep them out would be essential to allowing votes to be cast and counted.

    REPUBLICANS: The Older White Meat.

    by AdmiralNaismith on Mon Oct 20, 2008 at 09:25:58 AM PDT

    •  That's illegal (1+ / 0-)
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      AdmiralNaismith

      Challengers are no longer allowed in or around polling places. They would be ejected. Observers are allowed by they are specifically barred from inserting themselves in the voting process in any way. The polling location coordinator would call the police if this happened. They are specifically tasked to do so. Any GOP "army" trying to break the law in this way would result in horrendous blowback for them.

      We're retiring Steve LaTourette (R-Family Values for You But Not for Me) and sending Judge Bill O'Neill to Congress from Ohio-14: http://www.oneill08.com/

      by anastasia p on Mon Oct 20, 2008 at 09:50:45 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Happening in Cincinnati as we speak. (0+ / 0-)

     Joe Deters, the right wing prosecutor here in Cincy wants to question every registration.  

    •  You can question registrations (0+ / 0-)

      in advance, I suppose, but you CANNOT send people into polling places on election day to challenge them. Only poll workers are allowed to challegne a voter. Sorry, it's the law now.

      We're retiring Steve LaTourette (R-Family Values for You But Not for Me) and sending Judge Bill O'Neill to Congress from Ohio-14: http://www.oneill08.com/

      by anastasia p on Mon Oct 20, 2008 at 09:58:25 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  GOP (Rovian) defense has always been offense (0+ / 0-)

    Rovians call everything by a name that is the polar opposite of what it really is (The "Patriot Act," my favorite example,) and love to run a hurry up offense against the Democrats by loudly blaming them - in advance - for whatever the Rovians plan to do themselves.  

    Of course the GOP plans to steal or repress our votes.  They've done it in the last two elections.  Nothing new here.

    As I recall, they did the same smoke screen last time as well.  If the Democrats in Congress had demanded  a special prosecutor investigation into the DOJ prosecutor firings back when the issue first came up (this would have outed all of the dirt on GOP smoke screen tactics,) the GOP would be hampered in their current ACORN smear campaign.  House Democratic leadership is either epically stupid, or we have a lot more Liebermans running around in the Democratic party than we realize.

    I can never believe the the media is still stupid enough to buy this hogwash (I'm guessing that individuals within the media aren't that naive, but they expected to push this BS as part of their 'talking points.')

  •  Nice of them to leave the phone number (0+ / 0-)

    614-228-2481

    Everybody should give them a call to say "Hi!"  :)

  •  Steps to 'rig' the election for Obama (0+ / 0-)
    1. Inform the populace about Obama's policies
    1. Register people to vote in record numbers
    1. Make sure every ( every Democrat and Republican and Independent ) vote counts
    1. Win

    Dastardly scoundrels!

  •  Shorter Ohio GOP: (0+ / 0-)
    It's completely unfair that Democrats are snatching away our God-given right to steal the election.

    They have not done these awful things because they are bad conservatives; they have done them because they are good conservatives. -- Thomas Frank

    by sagra on Mon Oct 20, 2008 at 02:58:59 PM PDT

  •  The same Ohio where Diebold CEO Wally O'Dell (0+ / 0-)

    wrote in a fund-raising letter dated August 13, 2003, that he was committed "to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the President."

    http://en.wikipedia.org/...

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