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A recent diary included a poll asking what would be the big surprise of this election. After 2004...well, I won't say nothing can surprise me any more, because I probably would have said that on November 2nd.  Nonetheless, at this point, certainly it would take something so unimaginable and unexpected that the possibility had never even been raised over the past year, not even in jest. I am prepared for almost anything to happen...

Election 2004 had its share of surprises, but the shock of that election was not an October surprise or the fact that, not only was Florida a mess again, but so was Ohio. In 2004, it was John Kerry's pre-emptive concession.

And now here we are, again...

I have wondered quietly over the past months what will happen if Obama does not emerge with a decisive victory the night of November 4. I have not heard Obama say anything about the circumstances under which he would or would not concede, but if he has, I'm sure that there are those here who are aware of it and can enlighten me.

I have also wondered if his most dedicated supporters have any particular expectations of him in this matter. Since Kerry vowed to fight for every vote, the expectations among the thousands of people who had worked tirelessly for months to secure and then mobilize those votes were extremely high. Obama's supporters, I have no clue.

And then there is the matter of recounts. I have wondered under what circumstances Obama would request a recount, and, once started, how far he would be willing to take it...would he bring it to a halt at any point that he decided that he wouldn't win the recount, or would he stick with it until the last vote was counted?

So I write this little diary, to see what I can find out. Perhaps someone out there has heard Obama address these questions? And surely people here have some thoughts regarding the circumstances under which they think he would concede or request a recount, as well as opinions about when they think he or any other candidate should or should not concede, and should or should not halt a recount in progress.

Originally posted to Free Spirit on Sat Nov 01, 2008 at 02:52 PM PDT.

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  •  Lemme know what you think. (2+ / 0-)
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    Debbie in ME, marykk

    I have no sense of Obama on this issue at all, nor of his supporters' expectations.  In a broader sense, having watched Gore struggle on for weeks, and John Kerry concede in hours, I'm wondering what people think about the proper time and circumstances for a concession vs. a challenge.

  •  There will be no recounts. (1+ / 0-)
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    Debbie in ME

    Obama is set to win in a landslide. Go look at electoral-vote.com

  •  I expect he will follow Jim Webb's (3+ / 0-)
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    Big Tex, Arken, Debbie in ME
    example from his 2006 election night: declare victory with conviction and move forward.

    'The votes are in, and we won.' - Jim Webb, 11/07/2006

    by lcork on Sat Nov 01, 2008 at 03:10:06 PM PDT

    •  Empty Answer (0+ / 0-)

      Anyone can project how a candidate will respond in an easy victory. It is only those who know a candidate all the way to the bone who have a feel for how they are likely respond under a more challenging set of circumstances.

      •  I beg your pardon? (0+ / 0-)

        For your information, Jim Webb did not win an "easy victory".  It was so close that we did not know until very late that he was ahead in the vote count.  Indeed some of his staunchest volunteers had gone home in despair before we knew the outcome.  Once it became clear that he was ahead and all the precincts had reported, George Allen made a somewhat half-hearted speech extolling the virtues of the democratic process and leaving open the door to a possible re-count.  He did not, in fact, conceed until Thursday - two days after the election.

        What Jim Webb did, immediately after George Allen spoke on election night was applaud Allen for his devotion to the democratic process, and then without further elaboration declared,

        "but the votes are in and we won"

        He wasted no time before claiming victory and controlling the narrative.

        If Senator Obama wins a less than decisive victory, that's exactly the way I would expect him to handle that situation.

        'The votes are in, and we won.' - Jim Webb, 11/07/2006

        by lcork on Sun Nov 02, 2008 at 03:56:30 PM PST

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