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According to the creepy, angry and mendacious Zell Miller (a little more than 4 years ago):

"If this is a national party, sushi is our national dish. If this is a national party, surfboarding has become our national pastime."  Source. (quoting Miller's book, A National Party No More)

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In A National Party No More, Miller rants and drones on and on and on, ad nauseum, about how the Democratic Party and its leadership will marginalize itself into irrelevancy by continuing to lose the South and that it will continue to lose the South because, basically, it (the Democratic Party) is not right wing enough.

Well, Virginia's gone Democratic.

Florida's gone Democratic.

And in North Carolina, out of 4.2 million votes cast for President, about 12,000 separate McCain and Obama.  

From a National, Electoral Vote, standpoint, it stands about Obama 349 and McCain 147.

So, how're those predictions working out for you, Zell?

A little over a week ago The Hill reported this re:  Miller --

"The conservative Democrat from Georgia has kept a relatively low profile this presidential election. In 2004, Miller delivered a blistering attack on then-Democratic nominee Sen. John Kerry (Mass.) during his keynote address at the GOP convention."

Funny, that.


And then there's this year's Zell Miller:  Joe Lieberman.


Tin-eared putz.

How can someone with such political experience be so incredibly clueless?

In an earlier Comment I wrote:

Republicans  (talking here about the Party Leaders/Top Hangers-on)  have all the opportunity in the world to soul-search and re-calibrate who they are and what their Party stands for in order to return to relevancy.  

They won't.

With "leaders" like Mitch McConnell, Sarah Palin, Jeff Sessions and other strange, creepy and base people they will only become more shriveled and angry.  McCain's gracious concession speech will be utterly lost on them.  And many of their own followers will abandon them.  And they will fall even further.

Oh, and by the way, Zell Miller and Joe Lieberman.  Heh.  And how do they look today?


That about sizes it up.

Originally posted to BenGoshi on Wed Nov 05, 2008 at 05:40 AM PST.

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Comment Preferences

  •  The GOP: A National Party No More. - nt (18+ / 0-)

    "We in the gloam, old buddy," he said, "We definitely right in the middle of it." -Larry Brown

    by BenGoshi on Wed Nov 05, 2008 at 05:41:14 AM PST

    •  I don't know (1+ / 0-)
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      they still won a lot of votes.

      what would they have done if

      -our nominee wasn't so clearly superior to theirs?
      -they didn't put forward a joke for VP?
      -their incumbent president didn't have 70% plus disapproval?
      -the D campaign wasn't head and shoulders ahead of theirs?
      -Americans weren't uniformly down on the country's direction?

      I think this bit about the collapse of the GOP is overdone. They did well, considering so much was stacked against them (of course, they did the stacking).

      An ambulance can only go so fast - Neil Young

      by mightymouse on Wed Nov 05, 2008 at 06:14:10 AM PST

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      •  Oh, note that I'm not dancing on the GOP's... (3+ / 0-)
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        vcmvo2, mightymouse, athensga


        . . . grave, yet.  What I'm saying is that over the next couple of years the idiocy of Miller and Lieberman (and McConnell and Sessions and Palin, et mal) will not be jettisoned by the GOP, but will be even more closely embraced and that that will further marginalize the Republican Party.  

        In sum, they'll do it to themselves over the next election cycle or two.


        "We in the gloam, old buddy," he said, "We definitely right in the middle of it." -Larry Brown

        by BenGoshi on Wed Nov 05, 2008 at 06:17:48 AM PST

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        •  let's hope so (1+ / 0-)
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          now that they are out of power there is less benefit for them to stick together. If Obama is deft, he can abet their marginalization.

          we need to crank up our noise machine another level to match the crap they will spew. that may be a role for all the volunteers Obama brought out - somehow neutralize the RW propaganda and develop continuing support for our guy.

          I guess what I am saying is that the election shows there is a still a substantial proportion of Americans who will vote R against their best interests. As long as that is so, the R party as currently constructed has a chance.

          An ambulance can only go so fast - Neil Young

          by mightymouse on Wed Nov 05, 2008 at 06:29:15 AM PST

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  •  Where IS Holy Joe today? (7+ / 0-)

    Joe promised to stand with his BFF McCain through thick and thin.  Where is he now?  What's his latest political volte-face going to be?  Who can he betray next?

  •  The GOP is wrapped in the Confederate flag (6+ / 0-)

    and voters in the rest of the USA are wary of anything that is wrapped in a confederate flag. They have made themselves strange and exotic to the rest of us, and until they become a little more universal in their approach they will be consigned to minority status.

    And isn't it nice to see that Virginia sided with the Union this time around?

    The weak in courage is strong in cunning-William Blake

    by beltane on Wed Nov 05, 2008 at 05:50:09 AM PST

  •  Well, Zell's sushi metaphor (2+ / 0-)
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    BenGoshi, historys mysteries

    may just have been a gut reaction to eating raw fish and what we missed was that the real national contest is between gut reactions by instinct-driven people and people whose behavior is directed by conscious thought.  
    That may well be the real divide.  If so, then it would seem that the instinct-driven just aren't prepared to govern in the modern technological age.  There is no deus in the technological machine.  Human intelligence is the operative agent.  It's simply not possible to rely on the magic of the free market or any other ideology, if humans are to survive.

    The conundrum good and evil presents can't be solved by simply throwing knowledge out and relying on the gut.  The instinct-driven life is bound to be brutish and short.

    How do you tell a predator from a protector? The predator will eat you sooner rather than later.

    by hannah on Wed Nov 05, 2008 at 06:01:31 AM PST

    •  The instinct-driven life. (1+ / 0-)
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      What you say, especially if that instinct is bent on tapping into the darker angels of the soul.  Some instincts drive us to good.  Republicans just tend to ignore those, it seems.


      "We in the gloam, old buddy," he said, "We definitely right in the middle of it." -Larry Brown

      by BenGoshi on Wed Nov 05, 2008 at 06:04:46 AM PST

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  •  I really, really (2+ / 0-)
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    BenGoshi, vcmvo2

    can't stand Zell. And it's shame too, because I used to like him. He had a pretty progressive record as governor early on, at least as far as southern Dems go and his keynote speech in support of Clinton in 92 was gold, but he's turned into a major league (expletive deleted) since he almost lost the 94 gov race.

    •  Well, it's actually *good* that he screeched... (0+ / 0-)

      . . . all those hyperbolic screeches and that Holy Joe has thrown in so wholly (heh) with the GOP:  it only serves to throw their idiocies into sharper contrast against the background of reality.


      "We in the gloam, old buddy," he said, "We definitely right in the middle of it." -Larry Brown

      by BenGoshi on Wed Nov 05, 2008 at 06:13:47 AM PST

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  •  I hope the 30 pieces of silver was worth it. NT (1+ / 0-)
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  •  please pass... (2+ / 0-)
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    BenGoshi, historys mysteries

    the wasabi, domo arigato.
    tung sol

    'cause you're the green manalishi with the two prong crown--Peter Green, Green Manalishi

    by tung sol on Wed Nov 05, 2008 at 06:29:02 AM PST

  •  That traitorous weasel (1+ / 0-)
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    makes me sick to my stomach! I wish I lived in CT so that I could vote him out of office- creepy the whole lot of them!


    by vcmvo2 on Wed Nov 05, 2008 at 09:33:00 AM PST

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