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I'm a little perplexed as to why the DKos map and the Virginia State Board of Elections website both showed Perriello ahead last night with one precinct left to report, but now the DKos map shows 100% of precincts reporting, with Perriello ahead by 1157 votes, (157,851 for Perriello to 156,694 for Goode), and the SBE site shows Goode ahead by 302 votes (Goode: 157,070; Perriello: 156,768). WTF??!!

I stayed up until 1:00 a.m. last night monitoring the results of this race on both sites, and went to bed somewhat comfortable in the knowledge that Perriello appeared to have a sufficient--although razor-thin--margin for victory with insufficient votes in the outstanding precinct to cover the margin even if Goode took 100% of the votes there.

So what the hell happened here? And why does the DKos map show 100% of the precincts counted with Perriello ahead while the SBE appears to have done a recount in mid-count and changed their results?

I wish I'd taken sequential screenshots of the incoming results from both sites as I was monitoring them last night, but was too exhausted from volunteering at the polls to even see straight, much less do anything resembling work. So I don't remember, or have any documentation, of what the counts were in the late hours of the night as the final precincts reported. I just know Perriello appeared to be sufficiently in the lead to stave off the remaining precinct.

I hope someone out there has been paying close attention to this race and can explain these bizarre results to me. Is this provisional ballot counting, that's being added to the previous numbers, or what?

I'm still crossing my fingers that DKos is right and Perriello won, but how can the SBE site be wrong?

Update #1:
This Roanoke, VA news site seems to show the SBE TAKING VOTES AWAY from Perriello. Again, WTF??!!

Update #2:
Thanks to iamjackshandle for the link to the SBE change history which shows the races appears to have pivoted on the Danville electronic VERIS machine malfunction. Does anyone have any history on this kind of VERIS issue? This all sounds very screwy to me.

Update #3:
I changed the title to reflect the shadiness of the situation in this race. Please rec this diary up to bring attention to this situation! We can't let Goode steal this race from Perriello!

Update #4:
The Virginia SBE site  now shows 100% of the precincts reporting and Goode winning by 448 votes! The Danville electronic vote switch made the difference! Listen up, Kossacks, we've got to publicize this issue and demand an investigation of the Danville votes! Again, please rec up this diary to make our fellow Kossacks aware of this scandal. We cannot let this stand!

Update #5:
More craziness, this time in Perriello's favor:
VA SBE change history

Goode is now up by only 146 votes, which means the Lunenburg County changes swung about 300 votes Perriello's way.

Maybe this isn't over, after all!

Update #6:
faithfull at Raising Kaine also has a good diary on this

Update #7:
SBOE added a provisional vote to Perriello's tally, bringing the difference to 145.

Faithfull over at Raising Kaine says the SBOE is counting provisional ballots today and canvassing all returns.

We may not have a definitive answer until November 24th, which is when VA states the returns must be certified.

Update #8:
Changing seemingly by the minute, SBOE updated counts in Appomattox and Lunenburg Counties, bringing the difference to 110.

CNN is now showing Perriello ahead by 522, with a higher total vote tally than SBOE. I'll have a breakdown of the county-by-county differences between the two counts later. But it initially looks like CNN is on top of the SBOE changes, plus their own additional numbers possibly coming from provisional ballot counts not posted on the SBOE site.

Update #9:
Okay, just keep clicking on the SBOE and CNN links above to see the new data. It's already changed again since I posted the last update, and it looks like this see-saw is going to continue throughout the day.

Originally posted to Crispy Wits and Raisons on Wed Nov 05, 2008 at 06:37 AM PST.


Were you watching the VA-05 returns last night?

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  •  There may be an automatic recount (2+ / 0-)
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    WahooMatt, elwior
    law triggered by such a slim margin.

    Take a look at the News Channel 8 site - they probably have more detailed information about the status of that race.

  •  Provisionals, absentees, military ballots, etc (0+ / 0-)

    I'm not sure if the SBoE counted all that.

  •  From (7+ / 0-)


    The most competitive political race in the region was too close to call Tuesday night between U.S. Rep. Virgil Goode, R-Rocky Mount, and Democratic challenger Tom Perriello of Albemarle County.

    Wednesday morning numbers showed Perriello ahead in the 5th District congressional race by about 1,000 votes with several absentee ballots yet to be reported in various localities across the district, which stretches from Southside north to Charlottesville.

    Earlier in the evening about 9:30, The Associated Press called the race for Goode -- but the AP "uncalled" it shortly before 11 p.m.

    CNN called the race for Perriello.

    But neither candidate would declare victory or concede.

    "I'm confident," said Perriello, a security analyst whose campaign surged late with a blitz of television ads and a tour around the district. "This has been an incredible turnaround. I'm excited to be ahead."

    But he added: "We need to let the process play out."

    While he said he had an "inkling of an idea" that the race would be so close, Perriello added he is not sure what will happen next or the timeline to determine the winner.

    It could take a while before a winner is declared. The majority of the absentee votes yet to be reported were in precincts in which Goode beat Perriello on Tuesday.

    There were still absentee votes out in Bedford and Lunenburg counties. Goode appeared to win in Campbell and Lunenburg counties with majorities.

    If the absentee ballots mirror the other votes in those jurisdictions, it still appears possible for Goode to edge Perriello by a handful of votes. As of Wednesday morning, Perriello was ahead of Goode, 157,851 votes to 156,694 votes.

    Those absentees had not been counted as of 11:40 p.m. And no matter what the absentees show, the race will likely be within the margin for a recount.

    In Virginia, there are no automatic recounts, and only the presumptive losing candidate can ask for a recount and only in cases where the difference between the apparent winner and loser is not more than 1 percent of the total votes cast for the two candidates.

    There's more in the article but it's Goode yammering and I really cannot f***ing stand Virgil Goode.

    This ain't no party. This ain't no disco. This ain't no foolin' around!

    by Snud on Wed Nov 05, 2008 at 06:45:13 AM PST

  •  Surprise (0+ / 0-)
    Glad to see it.  

    The thought of John McCain with his finger on the button is almost as scary as the thought of Sarah Palin a heartbeat away from the presidency

    by Paleo on Wed Nov 05, 2008 at 06:51:42 AM PST

  •  Periello won (1+ / 0-)
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    Every year the State Board of Elections website disappoints those of us whose tax dollars paid for it. The CNN numbers, to my knowledge, had the absentee ballots, while the SBE site did not.

    Congratulations, Rep.-elect Tom Periello!

  •  CNN and SBE differ (2+ / 0-)
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    elwior, Crispy Wits and Raisons

    because SBE adjusted individual precinct counts in the middle of the night, with a net gain for Goode of just enough to get him over the top. I don't know if this is standard practice or not. The comment by the changes in each case is "VERIS went down at midnight and changed totals." You can see the precinct-by-precinct changes if you drill down in the SBE site.

  •  Thanks for keeping on top of this. (1+ / 0-)
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    I've been trying to figure this out since last night.  Very weird and stressful.

    Perriello would be a really excellent representative.

    Kingman, Barstow, San Bernardino!

    by jem6x on Wed Nov 05, 2008 at 09:20:41 AM PST

  •  What's the actual difference now? (0+ / 0-)

    McCain's platform: Noun, verb, POW!!

    by elwior on Wed Nov 05, 2008 at 09:47:57 AM PST

  •  Did someone get a definite on this? (0+ / 0-)

    I just went to the Virginia State Board of Elections Website, and as of 3:37PM EST, the "unofficial" results were 157,456 Perriello and 157,425 Goode.  Is that still changing?

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