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The AIG Bonus Scandal having been disposed of for the moment, Congress is all a-flitter, all of a sudden, about the new "Greatest Threat To The American Way Of Life In All Of World History Of The Week"...and this week the threat is The Mexican Drug War.

The Mexican Drug Cartels, Senator Joe Lieberman told us in a March 25th hearing, are the number one organized crime threat we face in America today.

The violence, we are told, is beginning to affect America’s National Security...and unless I’m mistaken, Congress is looking to spin up for some sort of action that might range from sending thousands of troops to the US Southwest—and beyond—to going after users in the US "by any means necessary" to perhaps even getting all "Jack Bauer" on some Mexicans who would, presumably, have some useful information.

Although no one’s discussed it yet, we will probably hear someone even propose sending cartel leaders to Guantanamo (Michelle Bachman...I’m thinking of you...).

However, there is another way to disarm these dangerous cartels...and history tells us it works.

So Congress, before you go passing some "warrantless wiretapping for drugs" 4th Amendment exception, allow me to suggest that instead of a drug war, what we really need...is a drug peace.

I certainly do not drink all the time.
I have to sleep you know.

--W.C. Fields

If you really want to understand today’s War On Drugs from the mind of a Mexican Drug Cartel "senior manager", imagine the America of about 1929.

Alcohol was only available from you and your friends—or it was available from your enemies, who you were trying to kill with all the ingenuity you could muster.

Your enemies were, of course, also trying to kill you; so every day at work you needed to be looking over your shoulder...and to be willing to shoot first and ask questions later.

The police, the Courts, and the various elected officials were, at worst, a "business expense".

Corporate America had embraced the concept of "vertical integration"; and in Detroit Henry Ford’s River Rouge Complex combined all of the elements of car manufacture, all in one place: a steel mill, a glass factory, a tire plant...and all of it ending in an assembly line.

Criminal America had seen the same light, which was why The Purple Gang, also based in Detroit, was engaged in liquor smuggling, liquor distribution (they were reported to be Al Capone’s largest supplier), and, naturally, the extortion of money from the speakeasies—not to mention robbing or kidnapping the occasional high-roller speakeasy customer.

The Purple Gang even allied themselves with the Sugar House Gang to ensure vertical integration was more efficient. Because of Prohibition, the availability of products used to make alcohol was suddenly restricted; meaning whoever controlled the distribution of corn sugar controlled who would be manufacturing liquor.

The Sugar House Gang (named after the product they controlled and the place they sold it) would tell The Purple Gang who had been buying corn syrup. Once the customer had distilled the liquor, The Purple Gang would rob them...and then sell the goods to Capone, or another customer...and then vertical integration was complete!

The Purple Gang was so tied in to the bootlegger-on-bootlegger violence of the era that they even have a tangential connection with the Valentine’s Day Massacre; which seems to have been related to a dispute among rival liquor distributors "Bugs" Moran and Al Capone (who, as everyone knows, was in Florida at the time...so he couldn’t possibly have anything to do with it).

It was estimated The Purple Gang might have been responsible for as many as 500 murders before they were targeted by Federal officials.

Murders, kidnapping, bootlegging, extortion, public corruption, rotgut liquor that could cause blindness--or even death--the invention of the "drive-by" shooting...all of it was part and parcel of daily life in 1920s Prohibition America.

In fact, Prohibition had created "drug cartels" so dangerous to National Security that President Herbert Hoover had named Al Capone "Public Enemy Number One".

(Of course, some might argue that Hoover’s real Public Enemy Number One was the Great Depression...but we’ll address that question another day.)

Under great public pressure, Prohibition ended in 1933, having lasted roughly 14 years.

This discussion began with an examination of the question of how you might reduce the power of the Mexican Drug Cartels, you’ll recall; so let’s end this conversation by posing some questions that tie the whole thing together:

--When’s the last time you heard of three carfuls of guys from Jack Daniels using their Tommy guns to first shoot up, and then burn, Jim Beam’s distillery so that they could take over their turf?

--Mexican Drug Cartels make billions of dollars annually importing virtually every drug you might want: they import the reefer, I’m told, and the cocaine, the heroin, the meth, the ecstasy...and probably Viagra, to boot.

You know what the one drug is that Mexican Drug Cartels don’t import?

Tequila.

--So if liquor has become a legal business...and Jack Daniel’s sees no business imperative in a raid on Jim Beam...and Mexican Drug Cartels aren’t making money smuggling tequila (at least not since the 1930s, anyway)...and the last drive-by shooting that involved the liquor business was sometime in 1932 or early 1933...and every single "Mafia Liquor Cartel" was basically out of business the moment Prohibition ended...you think maybe it’s time that we thought about making some of the other drugs a legal business, too?

I’m pretty sure I know who won’t like the idea...and I’m pretty sure it’s going to be the suddenly much less powerful Mexican Drug Cartels.

Originally posted to fake consultant on Thu Mar 26, 2009 at 03:35 AM PDT.

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  •  what's the point in ending a war in iraq... (13+ / 0-)

    ...just to start one in california, arizona, new mexico, texas...and mexico?

    "...this election has never been about me. it's about you."--barack obama

    by fake consultant on Thu Mar 26, 2009 at 03:36:50 AM PDT

    •  Drug wars (8+ / 0-)

      Bad news. The drug wars in the southwestern part of the United States have already begun.

      Et des boyaux du dernier pretre serrons le cou de dernier roi.

      by johnrhoffman on Thu Mar 26, 2009 at 04:14:41 AM PDT

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      •  true enough... (6+ / 0-)
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        sberel, trashablanca, KozmoD, jgtidd, BYw, whaddaya

        ...the question is: will we once again let the "fear spin" propel us into the same kinds of "safety vs. freedom" choices that far too many of us accepted as necessary during the last administration?

        "...this election has never been about me. it's about you."--barack obama

        by fake consultant on Thu Mar 26, 2009 at 04:30:15 AM PDT

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        •  Abstract drug war thinking (3+ / 0-)
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          sberel, trashablanca, fake consultant

          So far, most people are not concerned when a person involved in drug trafficking in the United States is killed by a narcotrafficante hitman who has come across the border from Mexico to fix a business deal gone bad.

          How will we react when "collateral damage" begins to occur as the bombs and bullets fly? How will we react when an innocent bystander is mistakenly kidnapped and killed instead of a drug dealer?

          The bullshit is only ankle-deep, and it is rising fast.

          Stand up! Legalize it!

          Et des boyaux du dernier pretre serrons le cou de dernier roi.

          by johnrhoffman on Thu Mar 26, 2009 at 06:56:42 PM PDT

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          •  the other "spin-up" scenario: (3+ / 0-)
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            Spoc42, OMwordTHRUdaFOG, TH Seed

            "remember the maine!"

            to pull it off, you mount a campaign that points out the threat of murder and kidnapping in mexico, you add the threat of innocent americans on vacation...or worse yet, spring break...and then you wait for some nice sweet photogenic family who is either the victim of violent murder or kidnapping...and voila! suddenly people want to go to mexico and "fix the problem".

            "...this election has never been about me. it's about you."--barack obama

            by fake consultant on Thu Mar 26, 2009 at 09:47:59 PM PDT

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    •  all sorts of reasons (10+ / 0-)

      for starters, a war on "mexican drug cartels" should help not only with firing up the white supremacist  minuteman-sympathetic vote in those states, while tossing more mexicans in prison thus stalling the inevitable shift of the southwest and mountain west to solid D states with majority-minority electorates.

      not to mention lots more funding for military/intel contractors looking for post-iraq work, more money for law enforcement's riot squad toys, and a general expansion of urban warfare/crowd suppression capability going into what promises to be a protracted economic slump.

      really, for the usual suspects, what's not to like?

      surf putah, your friendly neighborhood central valley samizdat

      by wu ming on Thu Mar 26, 2009 at 05:20:28 AM PDT

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    •  Gangs in America have invented a new politics (4+ / 0-)

      The justification for government is the consent of the governed. We now have third generation organizations spread not just across America but around the world that don't consent to be governed by any "authority" other than that of their gang.

      The portrayal of gangs as violant disfunctional deviant subcultures focused on doing whatever is necessary to gain wealth, power and territory is outdated by a couple of decades. They are now functional, and well organized.

      Its now possible to imagine manipulations of the economy, the markets, politics, international relations, and even the press and the media by gangs.

      Its questionable whether their violence should be considered more deviant than say the accumulation of wealth by armies of conquest.

      Most groups accept their benefit at the expense of others as something nobel or patriotic. Especially where it is recognized as a commitment to service to the community even at the expense of ones personal benefit and a "warrior" ethos of proving ones right to status amonst a band of brothers, we all support the troops.

      Despite or even because of the risks and rewards involved many gangs have been attractive to self actualizing risk taking type A leadership personalities. The degree of commitment to groups is often exemplified by the degree to which symbols of US as opposed to them are recognized.

      If you are an American patriot how come you don't have an American flag tatooed on your face? Is you patriotism not the most important thing in the world to you? Group cohesion is enhanced by exclusivity, interaction, religious fervor, brotherhood, deviance and control.

      Well funded by illegitimate operations, possessed of entrepenurial charisma and in connections that found their services useful some gangs are now multinational organizations invested in "legitimate" businesses with networks or connections that go way beyond the control of "contraband" or drugs.

      The old school illegal biker, homeboy or prison gang warrior focus on robbery, prostitution, gambling, loansharking, weapons, explosives, extortion, has expanded its focus to a more modern statement of MOS to include communications and control.

      Gang operations now include other controlled substances such as identities, drivers, licenses, green cards, passports, birth certificates, social security cards and information that allows for extraordinary degress of communication and control.

      Gangs are involved in  multination financial manipulation in the stock market, they are invested in basic materials, and capital goods, in commodities like oil and gas, in precious metals, and in industries like construction, manufacturing, that require capital when money is tight.

      With the gangs of the thirties reporters could actually hang out in speakeasies and get the drift of the action. Most citizens remain blissfully unaware of how prison gangs, motorcycle gangs, and their communities are networked.

      With drugs illegal government had no way of knowing whats going on other than by capturing an occasional informant or snitch. With retribution addressed not just against the individual but family, and friends, it was rare that people took the risk of cooperating with authorities.

      Now that gangs have networked themselves into important positions in legitimate industries incuding the military industrial complex where they provide mercenary armies for "security" and executive "protection", have involvement in international covert operations, and linkage to the various intelligence services

      The borders of the US include not just Mexico but Canada and a lot of coastline. The borders of the rest of the world are nonexistant by comparison.

      If you were to map the networks of all religious, financial, cultural and operational networks both known and suspected to be acting in their own rather than US interests and consider their territory as officially ungoverned and or "criminal" then the amount of territory "governed" by the US may have shrunk a lot more than we realize.

      Live Free or Die --- Investigate, Incarcerate

      by rktect on Fri Mar 27, 2009 at 05:16:04 AM PDT

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      •  Violent disfunctional deviant subcultures (2+ / 0-)
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        I take it you are including the Bush family in that group.

        The Prince of Peace has been usurped by the God of War.

        by Spoc42 on Fri Mar 27, 2009 at 06:33:35 AM PDT

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        •  heads my list (1+ / 0-)
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          I'm not sure if most people think of their extended families as gangs, or even if we spend as much time gangbanging with families as we do with significant others, but chances are most of us have a group we belong to that we have stronger bonds to than we do to our government.

          If gangs caught on to the idea of lobbiests as a buyin to their slice of the pie and began paying the various fees, contributions, taxes, tithes, bribes, and political dues necessary to get in line with the haves and have mores to feed at the trough and then made it known they intended to vote as a block, and began telling the media how things actually work it might be scarier than the revolution on our southern border.

          The same way loyal bushies have set themselves up as moles in Obama's administration and continue acting to thwart his desires with their bad expertise, gangs are now established in the military, in various intelligence services, and even in critical industries including healthcare.

          Live Free or Die --- Investigate, Incarcerate

          by rktect on Fri Mar 27, 2009 at 07:03:47 AM PDT

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          •  certainly that is another technique... (1+ / 0-)
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            ...that has been used to some effect by "mafia" gangs--but woe to the gang that government decides is a to their existance...or one that has become "the outrage of the week"--at least, until the next week.

            "...this election has never been about me. it's about you."--barack obama

            by fake consultant on Fri Mar 27, 2009 at 12:46:37 PM PDT

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      •  i would point out... (1+ / 0-)
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        ...that there is one element missing from this analysis: victimization.

        to really make the affiliation stick, you need an "us versus them", which naturally leads to "we can protect you" or "together, we can defeat them".

        and as you point out, it's not just a "criminal gang" issue--political "gangs" exist, as do ethnic and religious ones.

        "...this election has never been about me. it's about you."--barack obama

        by fake consultant on Fri Mar 27, 2009 at 12:42:46 PM PDT

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        •  I mentioned symbols of US as opposed to them (1+ / 0-)
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          fake consultant

          but not the protection racket.

          I expect the earliest versions involved sacrifices to the gods, and tithing to the priests, quickly followed by taxes on the water used to irrigate fields.

          I'm not sure if protection of businesses and trading first originated with the MARTU (the flood of camel nomads into ancient Sumer) or the SAGAZ (the displaced agricultual workers / brigands, highwaymen, robbers) but it was a major feature of the sea peoples and warlords who presided over the trade routes of the ancient near east.

          About the time man first domesticated beasts of burden and began accumulating flocks; warlords with crews of mounted bowmen who moonlighted as cattle rustlers began offering to protect the herds and accompanying caravans as guards only to prey on them as they reached the barran lands  between settlements.

          In the tale of Wen Amon the Peleset and Tjecker pirates / traders / mercenaries hung out around the docks and in the guize of traders offered to deliver cargos from Egypt to Byblos but oce out of sight of land appropriated their cargos.

          In the time of Rob Roy the protection racket was developed into what amounted to a tax on the herds with failure to pay it being grounds for appropriation of their best specimens.

          It came to the the slums of New York with the Irish before the civil war and to the railroads with the Pinkertons. The Scots brought it with them to the American West where the rustlers operated under the guise of regulators and it became a major part of Italian gangs extortion rackets in Chicago in the thirties.

          In modern gangs this protection tax is standard for all illegal operations carried out within a gang's turf and the newest inroads into legitimate business in need of insurance and protection of their capital in the form of derivitives would be recognizable to the first people to come up with leaving food to protect and nourish the ancestors existance in the underworld.

          Live Free or Die --- Investigate, Incarcerate

          by rktect on Fri Mar 27, 2009 at 01:58:40 PM PDT

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          •  one other purpose of "protection"...... (1+ / 0-)
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            ...is distilled into one (slightly paraphrased) sentence in the movie "goodfellas":

            "...what people could never understand is that people like us [the protection racket]...we're like the cops for the crooks..."

            "...this election has never been about me. it's about you."--barack obama

            by fake consultant on Fri Mar 27, 2009 at 11:45:59 PM PDT

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            •  Men of Honor (1+ / 0-)
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              fake consultant

              To live outside the law you must be honest.

              Sociologically its interesting how many outlaws have very rigid constitutions with strict discipline and priest like hierarchies. Power now comes according to how much protection you really do offer the group.

              The original idea of protection against racial and religious discrimination has lead to timocracies that have a lot in common with ancient warrior cults and brotherhoods that could be generally described as timocracies. Gangs have gone from gene to oinkos and phratre and are now emerging from city state and kingdom to empire.

              Whats gradually happening is that relatively intensive isolated personal coersion by physical violence is being replaced with more business like and impersonal war on a larger dynamic even as more subtle positive and negative sanctions of an economic nature are being applied territorially on a group level.

              My interest is in the codification of norms, mores, rules and laws to include standards of measure from common law attitudes and values.

              Personal power and status now come not just from fear of violence eminating from the enforcers but from the perception of the individual as sacrificing personal agrandizment to take responsibility to improve the quality of life for the group; to really be a protector.

              The idea of all members as having shares in the endeavor not just according to their ability to earn and participation in coming up with betterments to the system but also their success in leaving no man behind as regards improving the community collectively.

              That socialist ethic coming out of the popular fronts of the Americas is anything but new but starkly in contrast with capitalisim.

              Whats being protected has gone from our thing in the sense of us vs them to our thing in the sense of new world order.

              In order to do business with the group you have to be a part of it. The business in all the various contrabands, drugs, weapons, scams is lucrative, but more so when access to the supply is consolidated and controlled.

              The old days when any biker could cook up a batch of meth in his trailer have dissapeared; competing with hand made labor intensive poor quality product against industrial strength high quality inexpensive product doesn't work.

              Taking that ethos mainstream with legitimate industries and markets and a moderating charismatic influence that has caused a more inclusive evolution of principles toward the seduction of recognized personal responsibility, trust, self actualization and achievement has some fascinating implications.

              Live Free or Die --- Investigate, Incarcerate

              by rktect on Sat Mar 28, 2009 at 04:24:27 AM PDT

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  •  The war on drugs wastes money (11+ / 0-)

    we could be giving to the rich.....

    And they said a black man would never be President.....

    by xxdr zombiexx on Thu Mar 26, 2009 at 04:06:05 AM PDT

  •  even the Economist knows that (8+ / 0-)

    the war on drugs should be ended and all drugs should be legalized. That is their conclusion from a comprehensive review and analysis of the costs and effects of the drug wars since around 1900.

    •  i respect the economist... (4+ / 0-)
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      sberel, trashablanca, KozmoD, whaddaya

      ...but i would want to see their model.

      for example, did they consider the effect of drug legalization on the sales of chips ahoy, home-delivered food, and looney tunes dvds?

      it's possible that a "tweaked" model might present an even more comelling picture than theirs...

      "...this election has never been about me. it's about you."--barack obama

      by fake consultant on Thu Mar 26, 2009 at 04:36:18 AM PDT

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      •  I was surprised by the Economist - (4+ / 0-)

        I had just recently resubscribed after giving up on them in the 80s.  the reporting and analysis is quite good.  Lots of international news - actual news, and good science reporting.  The economic reporting is good but they still lean way right on economics and labor.

        They did however strongly criticize Bush and they are aghast at the plundering of America by the financial "geniuses".

        •  as long as you can see... (4+ / 0-)

          ...which way they lean, the wise analyst can often compensate for that lean--and the happy result is the ability to glean useful knowledge from sources that might not have seemed so useful before the gleaning process began.

          to paraphrase martha stewart: "learning in unexpected places. it's a good thing."

          "...this election has never been about me. it's about you."--barack obama

          by fake consultant on Thu Mar 26, 2009 at 01:06:29 PM PDT

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  •  They Busted Another Medical MJ Dispensary (9+ / 0-)

    Yesterday,contrary to what our new Atty Gen. has said the US Atty in Ca. bust a well established, but small time operation. Known for their being one of the real co-ops it's not the kind of place to break Ca. laws. This crap has to stop. The US Ayyts in Ca. seem to have mind of their own but somehow I don't believe they are operating on their own.

    Free Charles Lynch, He is facing 100 yrs in prison for following Ca. Laws. Charged w/5 non-violent Marijuana violations. Does that equal what Madoff did ?

    by SmileySam on Thu Mar 26, 2009 at 04:38:22 AM PDT

    •  My first reaction was "Bush Moles" (6+ / 0-)
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      We are seeing a real backlash against Obama's changes, and I totally suspect republican/Bush appointees to be at the root of things like this.

      That marijuana vomiting story? That's part of the back lash...

      And they said a black man would never be President.....

      by xxdr zombiexx on Thu Mar 26, 2009 at 04:54:28 AM PDT

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      •  i imagine there is some of that... (5+ / 0-)
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        ...and to complicate things further, some of the moles are likely true believers who are not acting for entirely political reasons--but who instead feel they are "saving us from ourselves", or something similar.

        but there are likely other reasons as well, as we address below.

        "...this election has never been about me. it's about you."--barack obama

        by fake consultant on Thu Mar 26, 2009 at 05:01:09 AM PDT

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    •  there is a larger story here... (5+ / 0-)
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      sberel, KozmoD, BYw, CA Physics Grad, whaddaya

      ...and i don't know enough to give good commentary...but this wall street journal article lays out a lot of nuance that would add to the discussion.

      they suggest some of this is coming from california attorney general jerry brown, who may have gubenatorial ambitions in 2010.

      he suggests the state's law enforcement community is convinced some percentage of dispensaries are not truly serving medical clients and that they are asking him for the enforcement.

      the us attorneys do operate quite independently, but here's a quote from the us attorney for southern california's office:

      "The policy is to go after those people who violate both federal and state law, to the extent that people do that and try to use medical marijuana laws as a shield for activity that is not designed to comport with what the intention was of the state law," Holder said. "Those are the organizations, the people, that we will target. And that is consistent with what the president said during the campaign."

      i don't know what amount of wiggle room will be given to "comport with the law", but i suspect that's where the area of controversy will be found.

      "...this election has never been about me. it's about you."--barack obama

      by fake consultant on Thu Mar 26, 2009 at 04:55:26 AM PDT

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      •  The rumor is the "State Law" they may have (5+ / 0-)
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        sberel, alizard, fake consultant, TH Seed, BYw

        broke is being behind in their Sales Tax payments to the State. Of course you can imagine them saying if it was good enough to bring down Al Capone, why not use taxes to bust the dispensary. If such nit-picking is all it takes then no one is safe. People break numerous laws daily they no nothing about.

        As for this particular store, they were one of the real co-op type outlets, not in it for the money, and were known for providing meds to those that couldn't afford it. It was not a fancy nor a flashy type place. They tried to stay as nondescript as possible with one small sign on the building.

        Our biggest problem will be to get national media to call Holder and Obama on this and coming busts. Judge WU stopped the sentencing of Charles Lynch on Monday until the DOJ sends him the new policy in writing. The public should be allowed to see what the DOJ sends Judge Wu.

        Free Charles Lynch, He is facing 100 yrs in prison for following Ca. Laws. Charged w/5 non-violent Marijuana violations. Does that equal what Madoff did ?

        by SmileySam on Thu Mar 26, 2009 at 07:48:28 AM PDT

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        •  i live in washington state... (1+ / 0-)
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          ...and it may be because i'm just not paying attention, but i cannot remember the last time i heard of a medical marijuana-related bust in this state.

          that said, it's easy to get the impression that our gov. is looking to find a way to "regulate the thing to death".

          it's not the biggest issue in the world, but the idea that we pass laws and our elected leaders then spend lots of time looking for ways to ignore those mandates drives me nuts--and this issue is a perfect exemple of that process.

          "...this election has never been about me. it's about you."--barack obama

          by fake consultant on Thu Mar 26, 2009 at 01:21:49 PM PDT

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    •  Operating on their Own? You betcha (2+ / 0-)
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      sberel, fake consultant

      Bush's bunch is still in office. Giddiyap on your personnel stuff, Holder(sp?)

      •  a lesson we could learn from mr. obama... (1+ / 0-)
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        sberel

        ...is that the campaign doesn't end when the voting is over.

        we need to make the effort to keep selling the benefits of medical marijuana--and as far as i'm concerned, legal drugs generally--so that elected officials feel compelled to follow what, to them, won't just appear to be a one-day mandate, but, instead, a larger and more permanent shift in the minds of the voting public.

        "...this election has never been about me. it's about you."--barack obama

        by fake consultant on Thu Mar 26, 2009 at 01:29:52 PM PDT

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  •  Nicotine delivery systems are the most dangerous (6+ / 0-)

    drugs. Tobacco products create an addiction that is harder to break (clinically speaking) than heroin addiction. The death rate from tobacco far exceeds that caused by alcohol, including car wrecks. All arguments against most other drugs then comes down to moralistic rants against pleasure and self-serving lies from the law enforcement part of the drug problem.

    The darkest hour is just before the dawn. Persevere.

    by OHdog on Thu Mar 26, 2009 at 04:51:15 AM PDT

  •  You've Been Rescued (4+ / 0-)

    "What the cynics fail to understand is that the ground has shifted beneath them"

    by ItsJessMe on Thu Mar 26, 2009 at 08:24:34 PM PDT

  •  drug wars, tinfoil version (1+ / 0-)
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    fake consultant

    Vietnam & herion
    Nancy Raygun, Olie North, Cocaine & contras.
    Read 'killing pablo' the DEA was, inadvertently,at best, just helping a 'friendlier' cartel control the coke business in columbia.
    That's whats happening NOW in Mexico, the Federalez are taking over the local rackets, according to the cops i know in the rio grande valley in texas. Bill Bonano & other mafia members claim it also happened in the USA, the 'feds' took over the drug & murder 4 hire 'rackets'. truth is often stranger than fiction.

    even the Devil slaves for the fortunate

    by OMwordTHRUdaFOG on Fri Mar 27, 2009 at 10:15:03 AM PDT

    •  for those of you... (0+ / 0-)

      ...who think this comment might be a little...ummmm...off the track, consider the first paragraph from this february 2004 "fort worth star telegram" article:

      The investigation of more than a dozen state police officials in Ciudad Juarez who are suspected of carrying out killings for a drug cartel has refocused attention on Mexico's efforts to eliminate historic corruption.

      whether the federales are taking over the rackets, or merely employed by rackets, is impossible for me to determine...but it is indeed a "through the looking glass" situation...and i gotta tell you, if these are our allies, this is just another drug war we're gonna lose.

      "...this election has never been about me. it's about you."--barack obama

      by fake consultant on Fri Mar 27, 2009 at 12:59:33 PM PDT

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