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I've known plenty of people over the years had their rights abused under color of authority. I've known people who went to jail for exercising their constitutional rights.  I've also known people who took their cases to the US Supreme Court and WON.

I like to believe we still have a modicum of freedom, but I am not naive.  I've seen what excessive force looks like up close.  I've felt the thud of a truncheon on the occipital bone.  You really do see stars.  You also lose your peripheral vision.  The only reason I didn't pass out when the officer tagged from behind was I was intently focused on the trigger of the AR-15 pointed at me from the front.

Oh...and up until that point I was doing everything exactly as I was being told.   Calmly and slowly and clearly.  See I figured they told me to take off my glasses because they knew they had screwed up and didn't want me able to read their badges.  I was so focused on the rifle, I didn't think someone might hit me.

I share this to make it clearn I'm sensitive to victims of police abuse.  I think it's important given the recent posting about the alleged abuse of Steven Anderson   Something in his story smelled wrong, so I checked the source.  I had no idea how right I was.

I want to be clear about my objections here because it is not my usual practice to question the integrity of people who claim abuse at the hands of the authorities -- especially when they are active solid members of their community.  Having said that, let me start raising some concerns:

First, if you are given lawful orders by a uniformed officer, you have to obey them.  If you want to argue with them, you have your representation do that later.  Of course, that will require some evidence.

Second, if you are going to create a video record for evidentiary purposes, you do it in a way that meets the rules of evidence.  

Third, if you actually sustain injuries and receive medical attention... there is a paper trail of discoverable evidence.  

Finally, if you have a congregation of followers who can attest to your virtue, you want to wrap them around you when you show up in court and make sure the media is along for the ride.

Why?  Because a cop that beats the crap out of a defenseless, law-abiding, white preacher man is going to bring down a whole lot of unwanted attention on his bosses.  That's no way to advance your career.

The video posted struck me as odd.  Something doesn't ring true.  Something smells wrong.   Either the guy's story is out of whack or ... something else is going on.

Since he identified himself on the video, I figured it was worth looking around to see what was already available regarding Pastor Steven Anderson.  I didn't have to go far.  This isn't his first YouTube video.  Turns out he is quite the YouTube afficionado.  sanderson1611 has posted ALOT of stuff.  

Joined: August 16, 2007
Last Sign In: 4 hours ago
Videos Watched: 3,937
Subscribers: 855
Channel Views: 85,135

855 subscribers?  That's a fair amount.  He's also got 371 videos posted to YouTube, so he is sure feeding the flock.  Of particular interest to me is his list of "Favorites".  I put up a few to make this point:  I think the encounter was no accident.  I think it was a set up.  I think we may be seeing the beginning of a wave of people provoking incidents to justify the ravings of people like Beck.  If this gets a lot of play on FOX, I will consider that evidence in support of my suspicions.  I suggest you read the essay first, then check out the videos if you are inclined.

Keyes: Stop Obama or the US will cease to exist?   Hooo...boy.  Crazy is as crazy does.  But wait, there's more.

Ok... now you might say... Hey... if someone looked at the stuff you write let alone watch, they could paint you as one sick sonuvabitch...what's your point?

Well, it turns out over the last few months the good Pastor Anderson has had quite an interest in the DHS.

DHS Checkppoint Blog entry 14?????

On November 26th, I was stopped & seized for about the 50th time since the beginning of 2008. The seizure took place at an internal suspicionless Homeland Security checkpoint along Southern Arizona's SR86 near mile post 146. SR86 is an East-West public highway located over 40 miles North of the border and never intersects the border at any point.

During the stop, Agent Gilmore admitted he knew who I was & all three agents told me I wasn't being detained. Nonetheless, these facts didn't stop the agents from refusing to allow me to go about my lawful business, choosing instead to escalate the encounter by requesting that I move to secondary inspection for more intensive scrutiny absent my consent or any articuable suspicion.

While continuing to deny that I was being detained and refusing to allow me to leave, the agents threatened me with arrest for impeding their operations.

After close to eight minutes of being unlawfully detained, a Border Patrol supervisor eventually arrives on-scene and wastes no time in telling me that I'm free to go with no further scrutiny.

Ok... now that sounds a hell of a lot like the story from TWO DAYS AGO.  Same beginning and everything.  Hmmmmm......  

I'm starting to wonder if maybe we're looking at more than a simple law-abiding preacher spreading the word of The Lord and seeking to save souls.

Abusive Border Patrol Agents w/ Nun Chucks at NM Checkpoint
This is a 27 minute video of him and NM border patrols.  

"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized." - 4th amendment of the US Constitution

Highlights:

(5:35) Agent whips out his nun chucks in anger
(7:45-8:00) The agent tells me in less than perfect English, "In the Border Patrol Checkpoint, the person's rights doesn't matter here."
(16:50-17:10) I'm told that the police will arrive in less than 10 minutes to arrest me
(19:00-19:40) I'm accused of being a terrorist
(26:20) I'm told that I'm free to go without being searched

Thank God we live in a free country! But how long will our freedom last if we ignore our Bill of Rights?

The highest power in the US government is the Constitution, which is the supreme law of the land...not border patrol agents on a power trip that are about 75 miles from the border.

Rom 13:1 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.

2Co 3:17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.

Pro 29:12 If a ruler hearken to lies, all his servants are wicked.

Ok... now I'm starting to think this is no casual encounter.  Especially given the category: Non-profits and Activism.  I'm also less inclined to believe this was an over reaction by authorities seeking to create a situation.  I'm thinking we have someone with missionary zeal seeking to stir the pot.

That's a problem for a whole lot of reasons.  Not the least of which is it diminishes legitimate protesters.   It also gives fuel for crazy actors.  I think we are going to see more of this in the future.  May as well get used to looking for it.

UPDATE:   This is the corker

From his wife's blog

My kids had the following conversation at the store yesterday, very loudly, and within ear shot of several other customers:

John (4 years old): Barack Obama, and the devil, and the government are worser than anything else in the world.

Isaac (5 years old): Mom, John actually told me that he thinks Barack Obama is worse than the faggots.

Ah, precious moments!

Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it. - Proverbs 22:6

By the way, don’t bother writing me angry comments about teaching my children to hate homosexuals.

When I said something didn't smell right, I had no idea how nasty this was going to get.  I wish I could say I am surprised.  

Oh... if you want a peek into the worldview that spawns this madness... and you have an hour you don't need.  Here's another of Pastor Anderson's "favorites":

The Obama Deception HQ?  This is a full-length "shockumentary" that wraps together a whole range of nutty ideas and serves them all up half-baked for people who will swallow anything.  Seriously, if you have issues with the way Michael Moore manipulates the audience, don't watch this.  Unfortunately, this guy is not going to cloud cuckoo land alone.  As you can see from his wife's blog, he's bringing the whole family along for the ride.

Originally posted to Henry Porter aka 8ackgr0und n015e on Thu Apr 16, 2009 at 06:16 PM PDT.

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Comment Preferences

  •  I'm willing to accept Pastor Anderson is... (29+ / 0-)

    a man of faith.  I'm willing to accept that Pastor Anderson is sincere in his love for The Lord.  At the risk of carrying coals to Newcastle, I would remind Pastor Anderson that the Bible is very clear about "bearing false witness."

  •  Religious leaders fanning the flames of fear? (6+ / 0-)

    Now why would a religious leader fan the flames of fear that might be capitalized on by conspiracy theorists and lunatics?

    Interesting

    Could be a reason that is something like this

    Douchebags for tea bags! FOX/GOP = NO! 09

    by MinistryOfTruth on Thu Apr 16, 2009 at 06:41:43 PM PDT

  •  This 'suspicionless internal (1+ / 0-)
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    Joy Busey

    checkpoint' stuff started over a year ago. It's not since the election. The posters were railing against the DHS police state stuff during Bush/Cheney.

    Maybe there's more of it now, or maybe you weren't aware of it then. Maybe Beck and his ilk have seized upon it as something to pin on Obama, like so much other stuff. It just shows the obvious: It's below the radar on the media until a Democrat is in the Oval Office. Only THEN will FOX show what's been happening for over a year already, as if Obama had just started it.

  •  You probably right (1+ / 0-)
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    JVolvo

    Mannity will probably be announcing the martyr's appearance any time now.

    The offense is that people who weren't out looking to cause an incident, who have legitimate gripes against the authorities in these type of events will be passed over as kooks.

  •  Obama was stupid to come up with the (2+ / 0-)
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    Joy Busey, JVolvo

    'Civilian National Security Force' phrase. The wingers are spinning it into a myriad of paranoid plots against the people, combining that phrase with whatever initiative is announced, and then twisting it into a nefarious gestapo plot to impinge on our freedoms.

    Listen to this Michael Savage clip wherein he combines the CNSF with Van Jones' green corps, calling them 'green-shirts' and likening weather-strippers to brown-shirts. Next, Mark Levin echoed here (scroll down). Of course, every time Obama appoints a dark-skinned person to a second-tier post (not requiring Senate confirmation), there will be similar squawking.

  •  He states that the internal checkpoint stops (6+ / 0-)

    happened in 2008 and then ties it to Obama. When, you know, Obama couldn't have had anything to do with it until this year.

    And these checkpoint have been up since before 2008, at least if they're the same ones I've been through in New Mexico. Driving north from El Paso to Alamagordo, or going from Las Cruces to Alamagordo, you go through these checkpoints. They are clearly border checkpoints, even though they are not directly on the border. In fact, I don't remember if I had to show any "papers" - they asked me a couple of questions, but were polite and professional, and I don't think they even asked to see my drivers license. Of course, I wasn't trying to start something...

    "You can fight ignorance, but you can't fight stupid." -- My mother, on CPAC

    by Sarbec on Thu Apr 16, 2009 at 06:53:25 PM PDT

  •  I've spent too much time in Indian country... (2+ / 0-)
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    ... to think that these sorts of abuses are new.  Not unprecedented, sadly.

    The river always wins. -- Mark Twain

    by Land of Enchantment on Thu Apr 16, 2009 at 07:21:49 PM PDT

  •  The Fourth Amendment (2+ / 0-)

    has been taking a beating for years under the pretext of preventing drug use. Nobody cared, because it was only DFH's and brown people who got hassled. Court rulings have consistently gone in favor of law enforcement.

    Now the precedent has been set. If check lanes for drunks and suspicionless stops to check for drugs are OK, why not to catch illegal immigrants or possibly a terrorist or two? This guy may be a nutter, but he has a point.

    "All that serves labor serves the nation. All that harms labor is treason. -Abraham Lincoln

    by happy camper on Thu Apr 16, 2009 at 07:24:47 PM PDT

    •  My issue is not doubting the 4th is under attack (3+ / 0-)
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      mint julep, Joy Busey, happy camper

      It's the cynical use of that threat will be used to justify the people pushing the 2nd amendment to the front of the pack.

      •  Actually, the 4th amendment... (0+ / 0-)

        ...went down sometime before 1997, had to have been a SCOTUS ruling. I know this because it was explained to me by 3 AGs (including Reno) and a chief justice of a state supreme court. After I complained that my legal files had been illegally seized, searched and held for more than 120 days without warrant by Harry Connick - the New Orleans DA.

        Because it was my lawyer they had targeted, I had no right to expect privacy for legal files, which included investigation reports that were evidence in a lawsuit in another state (though the plaintiffs' insurer was Baton Rouge, had gone criminally bankrupt, an ex-LA gov was appointed overseer and looted another $10 million, went to prison and the government took over...).

        I was informed that no one has 4th amendment protections in any investigation of any crime unless you are convicted using evidence that should have been covered by sworn warrant. Then you may assert the 4th on appeal. If you aren't the primary subject of said investigation and are not suspected or charged or convicted of a crime, you never had protection at all.

        Was a big surprise to me, but the opinions were unanimous. Funny how that flew in under the radar.

        BTW, I keep a gun. I'm certainly not so dumb I think I could ever take on the local squad (2.5 officers. really small town), much less DHS or the US Army. But it's fine with me the 2nd is still intact.

  •  Not sure exactly what your point is (0+ / 0-)

    and I don't have TWO (NOT one - 1:53:40, according to the YouTube itself) hours to waste watching nonsense - but I did live in Perris, Calif., from 1996 to 2000. Ten miles south: Temecula, Calif. Temecula's "claim to fame"? "The first border checkpoint on I-15 north of the border." Full-time, 24/7, the entire time I was there (again, 1996 to 2000).

    Accept it. We're FUCKED.

    by grndrush on Thu Apr 16, 2009 at 09:56:02 PM PDT

  •  While I think (0+ / 0-)

    Steven Anderson is a first-class whackjob...that doesn't mean he doesn't have a point.

    I don't like these roving checkpoints either. They're not anywhere near the border, their purpose is not to catch illegal immigrants, but to get people with pot. And, in the process, people who are neither illegal immigrants nor transporting pot get caught up in it and they don't know how to react.

    The Supreme Court cases on this subject are a bit confused. It's not entirely clear that these checkpoints are legal.

    And, on top of that, we might ask about the use of Tazers. These semi-lethal devices are taking the place of nightsticks in the cop arsenal of devices and I, for one, am not happy that this is happening.

    Again, Steven Anderson is a first-class whackjob (just go look at his video on YouTube for "pisseth against the wall). However, this does not mean that he isn't bringing to our attention that far from the actual border, people are being stopped and searched in the name of border security, when that's not even the case.

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