Skip to main content

We need some real historians in the MSM who will brand all of this sovereign/secessionist/tea party crap as a rerun of the old "south will rise again" propaganda than has been around since the days of reconstruction. The beaten southern secessionist rebel states have kept this idea alive among the white population within their respective states since the Civil War. This idea has been symbolized for decades by proudly displaying the Confederate Flag at every opportunity
Following reconstruction, Southern white Democrats grudgingly existed within the Union without dispute as long as there was no interference from the Federal government. Currently all the power and influence in the Republican party is concentrated in the Southern states, so it is natural that the Republican Party would preach the Southern segregationist, secessionist, racist dogma. This is all that is available to the current Republican activists. The real intent and purpose of this new Southern Republican strategy is provided below the fold.

To clear up the confusion behind the utterances by Limbaugh, Beck, and the Texas insurrectionary Governor Rick Perry it is useful to layout the current events impacting this subject.

(1) A uniform front of southern governors immediately announced that they would not accept the Government’s Stimulus money targeted for the unemployed in their respective states. For the sake of brevity, I will call this group of governors the Confederate Group as this sentiment has been expressed by Governors of the States of Mississippi, Georgia, Alabama, Louisiana, and Texas.

(2) Until recently the Confederate Group were bereft of any plausible reason for rejecting this money other than weak statements that they disagreed with the distribution requirements that the Federal Government attached to acceptance of the Stimulus funds. These arguments were highly ineffective and logically inane when one considers that each state is suffering the greatest amount of unemployment since the great depression. However, the right wing media pundits have since seen fit to resurrect the long discredited theory of fringe groups who claimed the Sovereignty of States Rights superseded Federal rights. Thus far only the Legislative bodies of the States of Georgia and Texas have passed resolutions not only declaring the Sovereignty of their respective states but openly reserve the right to secede from the Union under the conditions of their own choosing.

(3) Thus far two of the five Confederate States have announced their willingness to secede from the Union if their demands based on their Sovereign Rights are not agreed to and acted upon by the Federal Government. This is the present status. Meanwhile, the employment situation grows steadily worse and the right wing propaganda machine continues to actively preach armed sedition against the Federal Government.

Many Americans living outside the Confederate States are failing to take Rick Perry and his cohorts seriously. In the case of Rick Perry the only straw that the media can grasp as a possible explanation for the Texas Governor’s secessionist statements is that he is desperately trying to appeal to the Texas right wing fringe group for support in the upcoming Republican Governor’s primary in his fight against former Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison. While this might have some validity, it is certainly not the real reason behind his actions. "There are much bigger fish to fry."

What is actually developing here is a very ugly situation that if not dealt with swiftly and firmly can escalate to the level of reenactment of some phases of the Civil War. Let me explain what the Confederate Group is really planning for Barack Obama and the Federal Government. Their plan is based on the following events:

(a) Withhold the Federal Stimulus funds to the unemployed in their respective states in an effort to drive as many white low income people as possible to the point of utter desperation for the want of the basic necessities of life for themselves and their families.

(b) The Confederate Group and their financial supporters will sponsor protests and rallies through out their regions in the south. They will attract huge crowds to these affairs by providing plenty of food and liquor for the white folks in attendance. People will also be treated to continuous speeches by the most virulent bombastic fiery demagogues available. Liberal doses of racist slogans will be incorporated in these speeches which will clearly imply that just as the SOVEREIGNITY granted to States under the Constitution supersedes the rights of the Federal Government, so does that same Sovereignty give white people the right to rebel against Barack Obama and ALL OF HIS PEOPLE in the Federal Government. At this point the speakers will urge all of the attendees to "Go out and do something about Obama and HIS PEOPLE!"

(c ) In the past when roving mobs of white people attacked peaceful innocent black residents living amongst them, the news media always calls it a riot, and I would expect the same news treatment here. White mobs attacking black businesses, homes and churches is not far fetched, it has happened many times before in the south and the southwestern states of this country. (For further information check out the link below.)
http://en.wikipedia.org/...
This is what the Confederate Group is attempting to stage, and the goal to involve all five southern states in wide spread civil unrest. If such a condition does arise in the south and southwest it will require a heavy Federal military intervention to extinguish and it will be costly in term of property destruction but also in the loss of life. Naturally the actual instigators of the insurrection will all engage in a loud and unrelenting national media chorus calling upon the President to resign as the only way to end the unrest. Their argument will be of course that these rioters are racists who are just not ready to accept a BLACK PRESIDENT, but it is more important for us to preserve the Union, so the President must step aside to pacify them.
   
The current national dialog needs to clear and honest. It needs to stop pussy footing around the ugly facts behind these latest attacks against President Obama and what they portend. It is obvious that these attacks are racially motivated and are precursors designed TO APPEAL to those unfortunate desperate people who have long been in the terrifying grip of unemployment and are facing homelessness and severe poverty. These poor people are suffering each and every day, and they are looking for SOMEONE to BLAME. They have no financial training and don't understand why their loved ones are starving and without medical attention, while Wall Street Bankers get BILLIONS of bailout dollars. As Limbaugh said recently about these unemployed masses, "They don't know what to think, so we'll tell them". This is a serious time bomb that is ticking away. The right wing fanatic demagogues think that time is on their side. As long as they keep stoking the airwaves with ANTI-GOVERNMENT talk, the fires of revolt and rebellion will continue to grow daily.  

My concern with the growth of this sovereign/secessionist talk among the Confederate Governors is that the Obama Administration is so busy with the plethora of problems that it inherited from the Bush Administration, that it is not actively developing a counter plan to cope with the possible resulting region wide public unrest and riots. I think the White House is counting on a quick economic revival to keep a lid on this problem. However, employment is a lagging indicator in the marketplace, so it will be at least eight months before the rise in unemployment begins to level off. IMHO I don’t think the south/south western situation will remain fluid for this amount of time. I hope the above scenario does not occur, but unfortunately the events of the day are moving towards making this an actuality.

I realize that the Governor of Alaska has also embraced many of the secessionists’ sentiments in her campaign speeches. However, strictly from a geographical point of view, Alaska can not be physically included in the regional area of the five south/south western states that are currently engaged in the sovereignty/secessionist fever. Therefore, under these circumstances what the Governor of Alaska has to say on this issue is really of little consequence.  

Originally posted to otherwise on Sun Apr 19, 2009 at 04:00 PM PDT.

EMAIL TO A FRIEND X
Your Email has been sent.
You must add at least one tag to this diary before publishing it.

Add keywords that describe this diary. Separate multiple keywords with commas.
Tagging tips - Search For Tags - Browse For Tags

?

More Tagging tips:

A tag is a way to search for this diary. If someone is searching for "Barack Obama," is this a diary they'd be trying to find?

Use a person's full name, without any title. Senator Obama may become President Obama, and Michelle Obama might run for office.

If your diary covers an election or elected official, use election tags, which are generally the state abbreviation followed by the office. CA-01 is the first district House seat. CA-Sen covers both senate races. NY-GOV covers the New York governor's race.

Tags do not compound: that is, "education reform" is a completely different tag from "education". A tag like "reform" alone is probably not meaningful.

Consider if one or more of these tags fits your diary: Civil Rights, Community, Congress, Culture, Economy, Education, Elections, Energy, Environment, Health Care, International, Labor, Law, Media, Meta, National Security, Science, Transportation, or White House. If your diary is specific to a state, consider adding the state (California, Texas, etc). Keep in mind, though, that there are many wonderful and important diaries that don't fit in any of these tags. Don't worry if yours doesn't.

You can add a private note to this diary when hotlisting it:
Are you sure you want to remove this diary from your hotlist?
Are you sure you want to remove your recommendation? You can only recommend a diary once, so you will not be able to re-recommend it afterwards.
Rescue this diary, and add a note:
Are you sure you want to remove this diary from Rescue?
Choose where to republish this diary. The diary will be added to the queue for that group. Publish it from the queue to make it appear.

You must be a member of a group to use this feature.

Add a quick update to your diary without changing the diary itself:
Are you sure you want to remove this diary?
(The diary will be removed from the site and returned to your drafts for further editing.)
(The diary will be removed.)
Are you sure you want to save these changes to the published diary?

Comment Preferences

  •  Many still believe the wrong side won the (0+ / 0-)

    Civil War.

    No this video does not express my sympathies.

    We shall overcome, someday. Yes we can.

    by Sam Wise Gingy on Sun Apr 19, 2009 at 04:15:23 PM PDT

  •  I think your tinfoit hat's too tight (4+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    willb48, bythesea, ciganka, Subo03

    That is all.

    •  I hope your humor holds (0+ / 0-)

      I hope that your humor about the current situation is justified during the course of the rest of the year. I not.......

      •  No I'm not trying to be funny (6+ / 0-)

        What you're saying makes no sense.  

        First, and most importantly, Rick Perry and the other Southern governors you're talking about are morons, and could not remotely have engaged in the kind of coordinated conspiracy you're talking about.  Sarah Palin can't even strategically negotiate a victory over her 19 year old grandbaby's daddy.  Her own Republican legislature is blocking her crazy shit.  Yet she's going to help lead a secessionist revolt? Please.

        Second, the well-off rich "Republican Jesus" worshipers in the south who control the levers of power are too chickenshit to try to do anything that would put them at risk of arrest or harm.  

        I mean, I could go on.  Others can fill in other examples.

        But, in short: It's. Not. Going. To. Happen.

        •  Not to mention (0+ / 0-)

          some of the republican supporters are driven by the abortion issue and they do not support this racism.  

          Another point, the Texas legislature just put a big dent in Perry's budget, so there is extensive push back against his statement about secession.  They also set aside funds to pay unemployment benefits from another source.

          I see the ugly death throes of racism as these attitudes results in ever increasing marginalization.  The racism is out there, in our faces, very shocking, but also being rapidly discredited.  

  •  this is insulting (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    willb48, ciganka

    and I'm a transplant to the South.

    Justice, mercy, tolerance, hope, love, grace, and redemption are all Judeo-Christian values.

    by Benintn on Sun Apr 19, 2009 at 04:33:35 PM PDT

    •  Insulting?? (2+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      TheUnknown285, HylasBrook

      Whether you come from the south or the north, history damn sure don't change, and the tactics of local southern politicians have not changed since the days of reconstruction. Check out "Slavery By Another Name" byDouglas Blackmon also a son of the south and a writer on the Wall Street Journal.

      •  and inane to boot (1+ / 0-)
        Recommended by:
        ciganka

        it's as screwy a set of assumptions as I heard out of the tea party absurdity last week.  yes, 30% of Texans think their state can secede, that means 70% don't.  Also thinking you have the right ot secede does not mean you are involved in a conspiracy to do so.  All Perry did last week was make himself and his tea party suporters look like fools.  That's no reason for us to follow suit.

        Always grateful to wake up alive.

        by Subo03 on Sun Apr 19, 2009 at 05:05:25 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

  •  The trouble with the South was that Sherman, in (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    ssgbryan

    accomplishing his goal of bringing Hell to the South and thereby shortening the Civil war, concentrated on the destruction of property and avoided killing Southerners. Had Sherman properly concentrated on killing the white Southern Elite, reconstruction would have been completely successful and a racist slave holding dominant culture would have been replaced by something much more benign upon the destruction of the Southern Elite.

  •  South Carolina didn't want the money either (0+ / 0-)

    Also Alaska didn't want it. I think maybe one or two non-southern states didn't want the funds either.

  •  There is a reason not to take it seriously (4+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    happy camper, dalfireplug, ciganka, Subo03

    I'm from the South and I can tell you that these secessionists you're worried about are a tiny and highly mocked minority.  This is just GOP desperation and idiocy showing.

    Your political compass Economic Left/Right: -6.50 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.67

    by bythesea on Sun Apr 19, 2009 at 04:54:23 PM PDT

  •  No (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    HylasBrook, ciganka

    Some of this just patronizing to the south. Not everyone in the south is "racist" or bigoted. And I don't think that race is the sole driver behind these talks. Had Edwards or Clinton won they would be doing the same thing. In fact, when Clinton was president, similar talk was filling the airwaves.

    What I am more concerned is that this rhetoric may incite the more extremist, borderline militia group types to plan violent attacks. A lot of what is going on reminds me eerily of the time period between 1993 and 1996.

    And with today being the anniversary of the OKC bombing part of me is wondering if these militia groups are a threat. After Clinton left office the arrival of the Bush administration and 9/11 pushed these groups to the background.

    However, with a new administration too liberal for their taste, I fear that they may come back. I fear that they may start doing bad things again. Beck's recent show where he doused an actor with water from a mock fuel can scared me.

  •  "State's Right-ists" in Teabagger's Clothing (0+ / 0-)

    "Give me but one firm spot to stand, and I will move the earth." -- Archimedes

    by Limelite on Sun Apr 19, 2009 at 05:16:16 PM PDT

  •  Even the looniest lunatics (0+ / 0-)

    know that these states could never stand alone as sovereign nations. Especially Alaska, which would be at the mercy of those Russians that Palin can see from her house.

    "All that serves labor serves the nation. All that harms labor is treason. -Abraham Lincoln

    by happy camper on Sun Apr 19, 2009 at 05:38:33 PM PDT

    •  a little explaination (1+ / 1-)
      Recommended by:
      HylasBrook
      Hidden by:
      Subo03

      is required. Please do not misunderstand this diary. I don't believe for a minute that these states intend to leave the Union. The point of their stategy is to GET OBAMA OUT OF OFFICE. It is their intent to generate conditions for widespread race riots in these southern states which under certain circumstances generate calls for Obama to resign. That's the essence of their plan period.

    •  It would not be long before (1+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      happy camper

      an Alaska that secceeded would be the 11th province of Cananda as part of that countrys  expansionist agenda.

      it tastes like burning...

      by eastvan on Sun Apr 19, 2009 at 05:46:52 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Well, now we know. (0+ / 0-)

    What are you, psychic?  

  •  This entire post is a joke, right? (0+ / 0-)

    I mean, really, you seriously expect people to believe this?

    Yeah, there are some mean racist types down south.  But I can tell you from my experience in the US Army, some of the worst racists I ever met come from the MidWest and the North. Timothy McVeigh, OKC bomber,and White Power/Arayan Nation supporter, was born and raised in New York state.

    In South Carolina, the idiot governor Sanford has been cowed into accepting the stimulus money by a fairly united group of local and state leaders, of both parties.  

    See this article from the State, leading political paper in SC: http://www.thestate.com/...

    But recent polls suggest most South Carolinians disagree with Sanford’s position.

    A Crantford and Associates poll, conducted for the S.C. Democratic Caucus, found 53 percent of those surveyed disapproved of Sanford’s effort to reject the stimulus money.

    A poll by Richard Quinn and Associates, known for its work for Republican candidates, found much the same thing. The Quinn poll, which surveyed only Republican and independent voters, found 52 percent of Republicans and 66 percent of independents said Sanford should accept the federal stimulus money after a brief explanation of both sides of the issue.

    S.C. Democrats hope Gov. Mark Sanford is on voters’ minds when they head to the polls in November 2010..."Mark Sanford is hurting his own party," said Trav Robertson, a Democratic campaign adviser. "There’s no question about it whatsoever."

    SC is not known to be one of the more progressive states, but even they think anti stimulus Sanford is an idiot, so what makes you think they are going to go for seccession. Been there, done that, it failed, they learned their lesson.

    Let's talk about more practical things.. Downstate Georgia might be prone to what you are talking about, but not Metro Atlanta; Mississippi is almost 40% black and other minorities, doubt a Confederacy could take there.

    Otherwise, I doubt you have ever lived in the South or known many southerners.

    Maybe you forget.. Virginia voted for Obama.  North Carolina got rid of Liddy Dole and voted for Obama. North Carolina is actually a refutation of your thesis... It has been having high unemployment long before the current downturn, and yet got rid of a nationally known Republican Senator, and went for Obama.

    I can see from your diary record you have had some pretty good diaries in the past, but stick to something you actually know something about.  The South is not one of them..

  •  What you say makes a lot of sense. (0+ / 0-)

    It could be the talk of 'secession' is a dog-whistle.  Northerners & the MSM will dismiss it as empty talk.  It's unlikely the southern governors will seceede, but TALKING about it publically will bring out the folks that are poor, white, and angry.

    Even if they don't go after the federal government, they will go after "uppity" blacks in their local communities, attacks that will be labeled "isolated incidents" even when they are not.

    Obama needs a secret "southern strategist" to help fight this problem politically before it becomes something that has to be dealt with by the national guard.

    Someone like James Carville, who knows the south would do fine.  David Axelrod is a brilliant strategist, but I don't think he's a southernor.

    Let's hope this doesn't happen, but wishing never makes things so.  President Obama, being a man of peace may not realize the danger these rabble rousers could do to our country.

    The land was ours before we were the land's...Robert Frost, The Gift Outright

    by HylasBrook on Mon Apr 20, 2009 at 04:02:50 AM PDT

Subscribe or Donate to support Daily Kos.

Click here for the mobile view of the site