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This has probably been kicked around here before, but, hey, it's summer, and I haven't been around to catch up on everything.

I remember seeing KO announce, after his devastating demonstration that O'Reilly contributed to the culture that led to the assassination of Dr. George Tiller, that he would retire the O'Reillly callouts. I wondered about it at the time, because it seemed to me that, while he sometimes went a bit overboard in his sarcasm, KO was performing a major public service in his monitoring of O'Reilly's daily pompous nonsense.

According to yesterday's New York Times, it was the bigwigs at GE and News Corp. that engineered the truce, and it was business that was the basis for it.  The story does not indicate that anyone considered that Olbermann might be right about O'Reilly and O'Reilly wrong about KO.

As the Times' lead says:

It was a media cage fight, televised every weeknight at 8 p.m. But the match was halted when the blood started to spray executives in the high-priced seats.

Turns out it was the old on-the-one-hand-on-the other-hand song-and-dance again, this time at the corporate level.  And who was the mediator?  The oleaginous Charlie Rose.  At one of those executive powwows that attract hangers-on like Rose, he presided over a discussion with Murdoch and GE Chairman Jeffrey Immelt.  (Can't you just picture it?)

Over time, G.E. and the News Corporation concluded that the fighting “wasn’t good for either parent,” said an NBC employee with direct knowledge of the situation. But the session hosted by Mr. Rose provided an opportunity for a reconciliation, sealed with a handshake between Mr. Immelt and Mr. Murdoch.

GE apparently ran scared when O'Reilly-inspired email campaigns, a GE shareholders' raid and bogus claims about GE's business in Iran started upsetting the board and investors.  Instead of taking the opportunity to make a courageous stand, GE quickly bowed to pressure and called Olbermann off.  Fox has also seemingly cooled down O"Reilly.

This then spread to other MSNBC programs:

Shortly after, Phil Griffin, the MSNBC president, told producers that he wanted the channel’s other programs to follow Mr. Olbermann’s lead and restrain from criticizing Fox directly, according to two employees. At Fox News, some staff members were told to “be fair” to G.E.

I can't say I'm surprised; I know the bottom line always rules.  But it's a shame that the case against O'Reilly, which needs to be made daily, is no longer available on MSNBC.  This reminds me of the "balanced" journalism that the tradmed practices.  No matter where the truth lies, the object is to consider both sides in a controversy equal.

Originally posted to Vico on Sat Aug 01, 2009 at 02:05 AM PDT.

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  •  From Keith's POV I Found What He Had To Say (6+ / 0-)

    to be both accurate and at times pretty darn funny. But, and this is just me, it got to be a little too much (same w/ Rush). Anybody that watches his show just a few times gets they're both tools.

    But there is a lot of important news to report, and even giving them say :30 seconds, is :30 seconds I don't get Keith's slant on the news (which I really, really like).

    "We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence then, is not an act, but a habit." - Aristotle

    by webranding on Sat Aug 01, 2009 at 02:15:09 AM PDT

  •  Yes, the almighty dollar rules in the end (5+ / 0-)

    It is ever thus.

  •  Corporations are in the business of making money (13+ / 0-)

    Movement Conservatives are in the business of enabling greed and top-down class warfare by couching it in Culture War issues and mindless Jingoism.

    This turn of events reminds me of why the far Right hates Michael Moore and the Liberal blogs so much: they found a way to get their messages out without having to submit them to a filter that is hostile to the ideas/point of view they represent.

    With Moore, it was movie/cable/DVD distribution not being subject to a Movement Conservative bias. With the netroots, it was the internet being a middle-man free medium directly to those who wanted to follow and participate in its content.

    I hope KO and Rachel Maddow don't end up having a Movement Conservative "co-host" foisted on them next.

    You can't claim solidarity with people if you also want to bomb them

    by LeftHandedMan on Sat Aug 01, 2009 at 02:24:19 AM PDT

    •  I'd Disagree w/ You A Little About Moore (3+ / 0-)
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      Sherri in TX, LeftHandedMan, mudslide

      It is cause of Harvey and Bob Weinstein that Moore is getting the support he is now getting. They've realized there is a lot of money to be made, maybe not Potter or Iron Man money, but still a lot of money to release films that most of the other major studios wouldn't touch with a ten foot pole. I think their record speaks for itself.

      "We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence then, is not an act, but a habit." - Aristotle

      by webranding on Sat Aug 01, 2009 at 02:29:53 AM PDT

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      •  I wasn't specific enough (2+ / 0-)
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        Vico, webranding

        about who was behind him, why, and too broadbrush about the benevolence of the industry to liberal views. The corporate interests can't afford to alienate the creatives, not that they might not wish they could shut out a Moore from the suit level.

        I see both players and movers and shakers in Hollywood, some of the most powerful men and women in the entertainment industry in front of and behind the camera, who aren't automatically hostile to liberalism. Conservatives have a bitch of a time gatekeeping and controling artists and the people who make money off of them.  

        While I agree that the Weinsteins are a huge part of his success, and I was too broadbrush, I do believe that Moore would have had film festival and distribution options because of powerful progressives like Robert Redford in the industry.

        He wouldn't have necessarily found his films impossible to make or distribute due to Movement Conservative gatekeeping, something that I truly believe infuriates Movement Conservatives about Hollywood. They have never been able to find a way to gatekeep it.  

        My bad. You are right.

        You can't claim solidarity with people if you also want to bomb them

        by LeftHandedMan on Sat Aug 01, 2009 at 02:40:57 AM PDT

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        •  No Worries. I Wasn't Saying You Are Wrong (2+ / 0-)
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          Sherri in TX, Vico

          I am just a huge fan of the Weinstein brothers. They have this novel concept, support movies that are enjoyable to watch. I have no idea their political leanings, my gut is even if they are liberal, their support for folks like Moore is more about making money then anything else. I am just happy they are around.

          I mean if you can find a movie that was made for $5 million and it can make $40M at the box office and in DVD sales, that is just as good as producing a movie that costs $200M to create and makes $500M (well almost).

          "We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence then, is not an act, but a habit." - Aristotle

          by webranding on Sat Aug 01, 2009 at 02:49:16 AM PDT

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    •  Ugh. (8+ / 0-)

      At Fox News, some staff members were told to "be fair" to G.E.

      The 'Fair and Balanced' Fox News? They must have giggled off the record at that. They are "always" fair to the people they cover, so, no change!

      The thing about the far Right is that, once they have established that they have found a crack, they will keep picking at it to make it worse.

      Next, they will be demanding GE set up Movement Conservative co-hosts or demand that Olbermann be fired for 'violating the spirit of the truce' almost immediately.

      You can't claim solidarity with people if you also want to bomb them

      by LeftHandedMan on Sat Aug 01, 2009 at 02:30:09 AM PDT

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  •  So first amendment be screwed, huh ? (1+ / 0-)
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    golconda2

    The bottomline is the tops, I suppose. The frigging first amendment does not extend to hurting corporations. Any further proof needed to show they are bigger than the country ?

    USA, USA, USA.... whatever.

    repub = a politician with a conservative mind and a liberal penis
    fox = fascist obnoxious xenophobic
    rnc = rush, newt, cheney

    by amk for obama on Sat Aug 01, 2009 at 03:35:20 AM PDT

    •  well the first amendment does not apply (4+ / 0-)
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      Sherri in TX, Vico, drewfromct, golconda2

      it just says the government can't muzzle you, it doesn't say your employer can't.

      "Look Dave, I can see you're really upset about this...I honestly think you ought to sit down calmly, take a stress pill and think things over." ~ HAL

      by LuLu on Sat Aug 01, 2009 at 04:55:13 AM PDT

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      •  Yeah, how convenient. We'll buy one arm of (2+ / 0-)
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        LuLu, golconda2

        public information and muzzle it. Cute.

        repub = a politician with a conservative mind and a liberal penis
        fox = fascist obnoxious xenophobic
        rnc = rush, newt, cheney

        by amk for obama on Sat Aug 01, 2009 at 05:08:29 AM PDT

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      •  Which is exactly why (2+ / 0-)
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        Vico, LuLu

        it just says the government can't muzzle you, it doesn't say your employer can't.

        Wingnuts keep screaming for "smaller government", but feverishly believe in the total deregulation of private industry.

        I wold laugh at the naivete of the rank and file Wingnuts if it weren't such a serious problem. They're concerned about government getting too powerful, and rightly so, IMHO, but they literally can't wait to be enslaved by the Lords of the New Feudalism.

        Al Qeada is a faith-based initiative.

        by drewfromct on Sat Aug 01, 2009 at 06:05:57 AM PDT

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  •  Cannot say I am surprised (2+ / 0-)
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    Vico, LuLu

    I am amazed that it happen at all! Corporations are there to help each other and screw the public right?

    What were they thinking?

    Is he going to apologize to Dick also?

  •  GE CEO Jeff Immelt Caved In to Fox Noise (4+ / 0-)
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    sen bob, Vico, LuLu, drewfromct

    because the business couldn't stand the defamatory lies of Fox Noise/ Rupert Murdoch and Bill O'Reilly.  He had to muzzle Keith Olbermann for GE's sake.  I'll bet it's only a matter of time before K. O. will be looking for a new gig (where the news and TRUTH are what matter).

  •  I've said it before, and I'll say it again. (4+ / 0-)
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    askew, golconda2, henlesloop, second alto

    Keith can't get a break - not even here.

    "He talks about Fox News way too much!  He should stop already!"

    "He stopped talking about Fox News!  How dare he!  He gave in to corporate!"

    So which is it that you want?  More attention to the ClusterFox (his term), or less?  Call out Billo and the disgusting asses at Fox (which he still does from time to time), or leave them alone?  Make up your freaking minds.

    Drives me nuts.

    Reminds me of the old joke about the feuding hunters... one buys a dog that can walk on water, and the other hunter just looks at him, and says "What, he can't swim?"

    You want a public option? Sign here!

    by Diogenes2008 on Sat Aug 01, 2009 at 05:17:59 AM PDT

    •  I love Keith and Rachel (1+ / 0-)
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      Vico

      as much as anyone, but I always remember that they have to watch what they say if they want to keep their jobs.

      They work for GE, not us.

      It's useful to bear that in mind when watching them.

      Al Qeada is a faith-based initiative.

      by drewfromct on Sat Aug 01, 2009 at 06:09:20 AM PDT

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  •  I hated that segment anyway. (0+ / 0-)

    It recognized daily Faux Noise as a News Channel instead of a Propaganda Channel that it is.

  •  Just f'n great (1+ / 0-)
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    Vico

    Orally continues to lie defame and insult anyone who doesn't meet his warped sense of life and KO now just gets to sit there and let it happen. I guess we'll have to be content on letting KO rip on Limbuagh on a nightly bas.....OH OH, Immelt makes a deal with Limbaugh's syndicators with Larry King as "peacemaker". What a fucking joke!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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