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You've heard some variation on this argument against public health insurance. But if you need yet another dose of this Obama-wants-to-euthanize-grandma crap, you can always count on RedState to bring teh stupid. And by the time you read it, someone will have lost their insurance, gone bankrupt, and maybe died because we lack public health care.
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Obama wants to kill white people so he can give their money to lazy minorities that are too unmotivated to earn an honest living picking cotton and tap dancing.

The theme of "Government plot to kill us all!!!" is a cliche that Alex Jones, Lyndon LaRouche, the militias, white supremacists, successionists, Nazis, and domestic terrorists attach to everything they don't like.  Why does the MSM repeat each the-government-will-slaughter-you-so-go-blow-up-a-federal-building-to-stop-the-New-World-Order tropes from the white supremacist/terrorist fringe? Because GOP congressmen keep repeating them?

Let's review - what are the government plots to slaughter us?

FEMA
Swine Flu
The Census
Health care reform

Let's watch some videos, and put this in context..

Look at other examples of elaborate paranoia promoted by the right wing bomb building fringe:

The federal government was supposedly plotting to hand over the country the UN, who would of course do what the UN does best, go on a killing spree.

The may be using bioweapons like swine flu or bird flu. David Ickes rips the lid off it.

An then of course there are the FEMA death camps (Glenn Beck says he can't disprove this one).

Thousands of rail rail cars with shackles welded to the walls wait in rail yards around the country, and many of them are rumored to have giullateens welded into them, which will haul away your body and your severed head. I sounds a little unwieldy, but it's a popular scenario. Because it's all about the New World Order taking over.

And then of course there is the Census, and Michelle Bachmann warns us that the information will be used to round us up, although some  nutcases say that we'll simply be dragged out an shot on our own front lawns.

Which of course brings us full circle to Obamas plot to kill Grandma, as so articulately explained by Virginia Foxx (Insane - NC)

And just to make sure we cover the domestic terrorism angle, here's Randell Terry threatening violence and terrorism to the National Press Club if we get health care reform.

So what are the roots of this? Why do these stories routinely seem to take root in the white supremacist/militia groups?  Remember that Fascism and Nazism are fundamentally conspiracy theories about how the Jews and mongrel races were going to slaughter all the white people. And even before they got off the ground, there was virulent antisemitism, such as the hoax book "The Protocols Of The Elders of Zion," which was all about how the Jews were plotting to trigger a war that would slaughter all the white people.  

It's worth mentioning that this is the same crap that Muslim suicide bombers are weaned on, which is just one more thing they have in common with American neonazis.

The GOP has become a bundle of cliches, but it sticks with these themes because they work at a visceral level with a certain part of the population. And that is what Hitler said about his use of antisemitism - the goal was to hammer home these paranoid fantasies with the stupidest 10% of the population, and that could be enough to take over the country.

Originally posted to bernardpliers on Tue Aug 04, 2009 at 06:02 PM PDT.

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  •  Alex Jones isn't a racist. (5+ / 0-)

    He's just insane. He has pieced together a Grand Unified Conspiracy Theory that explains everything from the JFK assassination to autism. And they were peddling the FEMA death camp crap under Clinton, too, it was just on poorly-produced VHS documentaries rather than the internet.

    "I set up a stage, put up a few banners, stuck a podium up there, and started shouting 'Yes we can.' Next thing you know there's 150,000 people here." -Joe

    by Geiiga on Tue Aug 04, 2009 at 06:12:48 PM PDT

  •  Ugh (0+ / 0-)

    Can we please finally get back the stupid  use of the term "Nazi".    

    It's  used to freely, cheaply, and inaccurately around here that it's lost all meaning.

    NAZI's were members of the National Workers Socialist Party in Germany during the 1930's and 40's.  OK?

    "In every revolution, there's one man with a vision." -James T. Kirk

    by The Navigator on Tue Aug 04, 2009 at 06:14:34 PM PDT

    •  Ha! (1+ / 0-)
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      blueyedace2

      "I set up a stage, put up a few banners, stuck a podium up there, and started shouting 'Yes we can.' Next thing you know there's 150,000 people here." -Joe

      by Geiiga on Tue Aug 04, 2009 at 06:17:10 PM PDT

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      •  Um, yeah. (0+ / 0-)

        "In every revolution, there's one man with a vision." -James T. Kirk

        by The Navigator on Tue Aug 04, 2009 at 06:39:51 PM PDT

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        •  I've been doing a lot of research on conspiracy. (1+ / 0-)
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          Really, the only thing that makes the Birthers special in any way is the readily available, easily understood evidence debunking their claims. I mean, to understand that the controlled demolition claims aren't true, you have to have to have a lot of understanding about metallurgy and demolition (this is assuming your paranoia extends to thinking the quoted experts are in on it).

          Most of the other conspiracy theories rely on arcane knowledge and strange leaps of logic. That book has a lot of what I call "hoofbeats=zebras" thinking. There's one bit where, due to the fact that the Nazis never bought into Einstein's Jew relativity, their science was far superior to ours, and they obviously had a time machine that Hitler used to escape the bunker where he allegedly committed suicide.

          Ridiculous? Yes. But I don't have any particular evidence that Hitler didn't have a time machine.

          "I set up a stage, put up a few banners, stuck a podium up there, and started shouting 'Yes we can.' Next thing you know there's 150,000 people here." -Joe

          by Geiiga on Tue Aug 04, 2009 at 06:52:29 PM PDT

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          •  A fellow kookologist? (2+ / 0-)
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            bablhous, bernardpliers

            I was more active back when I worked third shift and spent all night listening to the crazies on Art Bell's radio show.

            The lesson of that history is that you must not despair, that if you are right, and you persist, things will change. -Howard Zinn

            by blueyedace2 on Tue Aug 04, 2009 at 07:01:32 PM PDT

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            •  I Wish I Had An Excuse To Listen To Art Bell (1+ / 0-)
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              It's like a local homeopathic health program where it sounded so reasonable for the first 2 minutes, but then they would straight to their obsession with enemas for the rest of the hour. But Art Bell is just too late for me.

            •  Ah, I listened to him a lot. (0+ / 0-)

              I used to drive from Topeka to Dallas almost every weekend, leaving after I got off work at 11pm Friday, and getting back home in time for my 4 o'clock shift Monday. One of my overnight driving games I called "radio roulette." The objective was to see what the furthest AM station was that I could pick up. An alternate game I called "Coast to Coast," where I tried to get that show from a station on the east coast and one on the west coast. I rarely "won" that one.

              "I set up a stage, put up a few banners, stuck a podium up there, and started shouting 'Yes we can.' Next thing you know there's 150,000 people here." -Joe

              by Geiiga on Tue Aug 04, 2009 at 07:24:24 PM PDT

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    •  GOP Would Not Exist Without Mein Kampf (5+ / 0-)

      http://www.dailykos.com/...

         Short Guide To Nazi Propaganda Talking Points

         Things The Nazi Were Against:
         Trade unions
         Communists
         "Liberals"
         "The liberal press"
         "Socialism"
         "Socialists"
         "Democrats"
         "Social Democrats"
         Homosexuals
         Pacifists
         Atheists/secularists
         Religious tolerance
         Mixed marriages
         Redistribution of wealth/class warfare
         Contraception
         Sex education
         Immigrants
         Multiculturalism
         Bilingual anything
         Universal education
         Art that does not glorify the state
         Darwin and teaching evolution
         Elementary teachers who don't teach nationalism
         University professors
         People who don't support the troops
         ...and of course Jews

         Things The Nazi Were For:

         Pre-emptive war
         Censorship
         College students ratting out professors for lack of loyalty
         Torture
         Abstinence
         Marriage
         High birth rate
         State control of the media, arts, and science
         Personality cults
         Making nationalism part of the curriculum
         Worship of an idealized version of the past
         Rebellion against "weak" authority
         Blaming minorities and immigrants for everything
         Invoking destiny and being judged by history
         Claiming to do "God's will."

      •  Yeaaahhhhhh.... (0+ / 0-)

        You do realize, the Republican party predates the publication of Mein Kampf.

        Don't you?

        Nazi's also, by the way, more than anything, were for a strong central state with considerable control over its populace.

        "In every revolution, there's one man with a vision." -James T. Kirk

        by The Navigator on Tue Aug 04, 2009 at 06:42:35 PM PDT

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        •  Jonah Goldberg Blew It Wide Open (1+ / 0-)
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          Compare the talking points above to his book - Goldberg wrote a transparent ripoff of Mein Kampf, substituting "liberal" for "Jew."  Goldberg rewrote Mein Kampf for contemporary meth addled wingnut trailer trash with the emphasis on Hitlers "Causes of the Collapse."

    •  As someone sitting... (3+ / 0-)

      ...about 17 miles from the birthplace of George Lincoln Rockwell, I'd say it's a bit broader than that.

      "I guess the Americans with Disabilities Act needs to be revisited again to include "Republican" as a form of mental impairment ..." -- Helen Thomas

      by dsteffen on Tue Aug 04, 2009 at 06:24:34 PM PDT

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      •  That Was An Entertaining Wikipedia Article (2+ / 0-)
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        blueyedace2, dsteffen

        A lot of surreal things happen around DC, a lot which barely makes the papers.

        •  Heh. Glad you liked it. (1+ / 0-)
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          bernardpliers

          The city of Bloomington has, I think, been hoping any recollection of its connection with GLR will just wither and blow away.

          The house he was born in was still around when I was a kid, but was razed, IIRC, sometime in the 1970's to make room for a parking lot for a hospital.

          I think the city was glad to see it go -- didn't want to see it turned into a neo-Nazi shrine or anything.

          "I guess the Americans with Disabilities Act needs to be revisited again to include "Republican" as a form of mental impairment ..." -- Helen Thomas

          by dsteffen on Tue Aug 04, 2009 at 07:42:52 PM PDT

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  •  But there's no target for the paranoid dummies. (3+ / 0-)

    The republicans think that they can ride paranoia and the stupid, but it's diffuse and without a target.  It can't be mobilized; at most, it will make the US an ungovernable failure.

    "Buy your Birkenstocks now before they're Federally Mandated. Stock up on Jolly Ranchers before they're taxed like cigarettes."

    by Inland on Tue Aug 04, 2009 at 06:14:46 PM PDT

  •  Nice Collection (4+ / 0-)

    Just WOW
    how do these people get away with spreading this stuff ??

  •  Self-fulfilling prophecies (5+ / 0-)

    Screech at the top of your lungs that everyone hates you and wants to kill you; run up into people's faces and bellow hysterically; and, sooner or later, someone is likely to react badly.

    In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice; but in practice, there always is a difference.

    by blue aardvark on Tue Aug 04, 2009 at 06:19:09 PM PDT

  •  generally not a fan of Nazi comparisons (2+ / 0-)
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    Hillbilly Dem, blueyedace2

    but it's a good collection of these wing-nutzis.

  •  Good use of the race card. It's so nice to (0+ / 0-)

    play the race card.  Any criticism of Obama and we throw it out and the repugs go on the defensive and end up so busy claiming not to be racist that their original drivel gets forgotten.  

    Eat recycled food. It's good for the environment and OK for you.

    by thestructureguy on Tue Aug 04, 2009 at 06:46:23 PM PDT

  •  When you reach... (1+ / 0-)
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    bernardpliers

    David Icke level kookiness you've really gone off the deep end.

    The lesson of that history is that you must not despair, that if you are right, and you persist, things will change. -Howard Zinn

    by blueyedace2 on Tue Aug 04, 2009 at 07:05:45 PM PDT

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