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The majority of Americans want health care reform.  Democrats hold a majority in Congress.  Nevertheless, leading Dems like Dick Durbin are 'signaling' that they are 'ready to compromise' to pass a bill.

It begs the question:  Compromise with who? (Pretend for a moment that you didn't shout 'HEALTH CARE LOBBYISTS').

Realistically, will the majority of Americans accept that a majority of the Congress has their hands tied on health care reform by an increasingly shrill minority?

Why turn yellow when an independent audit has just identified that about 1/2 of our health care spending is completely wasted, with profit-driven testing & insurance paperwork accounting for $1 out of every $5 spent? That's a 'Stimulus'-size health care orgy every year!

Why are Dems so afraid of not being able to improve on a dismal system that is leeching the life out of our economic system and our society?

On health care, compromise will not be seen as 'bipartisan', 'noble' or 'wise'.  Rather, the following conclusion is far more likely in the heartland:  What's the point of giving Dems power if they won't use it to hold up their end of the deal?

I'm not a Democrat - but I can't help but feel pity for a party that doesn't seem to know what to do when polling matches their principles.

Are Democrats more afraid of passing health care reform on their watch because they actually think it might fail? Do they really think that they can 'set the dialogue' for a future in which they explain that the failed health care reform was 'compromised' from birth? Sorry, won't do.

Truth be told, I wouldn't mind seeing the Democratic party fail...though it would preferably happen about 1 minute after the Republican party. Nonetheless, I'm mystified by how spineless the Dems are...no wonder they can't get any respect despite their party platform more closely matching that of the majority of Americans.  Dems are poised to implode under their own inability to handle an unprecedented Presidential victory coupled with fillibuster-proof majorities in Congress.  

Seems likes there's not much change to believe in after all.

Originally posted to BOknows on Tue Aug 11, 2009 at 03:02 AM PDT.

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  •  Tip Jar (0+ / 0-)

    To DailyKos I'm a troll, Naderite, right wing conservative. Fortunately, I like dissent...just shake, stir and relax.

    by BOknows on Tue Aug 11, 2009 at 03:02:17 AM PDT

  •  Okay. (0+ / 0-)

    Give me the names of 50 Senators who will vote for a public option.

    Can't do it?  I thought not.  There are 44 in favor, 41 opposed, and from the remaining fifteen it's very difficult to find six who might vote yes.

    And that's to get to 50.  How are you going to get to 60 to get cloture.  Find me those names.

    Unless we are willing to face reality, we will have 1961 and 1963 all over again.  In 1961 Medicare lost in the Senate by four votes.  In 1963 Medicare lost in the Senate by two votes.  It took until 1965 to get it passed.

    Schumer and Durbin are willing to vote for co-ops in order to get a bill out of the Senate.  Then, it will go to conference, where the public option (by whatever name) will be reinserted.

    •  This is a signature issue for Dems.. (0+ / 0-)

      ...as healthcare reform goes, so goes the Dems.

      I'm not a Dem, and I'm much more enthused about Energy reform, so it's fairly easy for me to be objective about this issue.

      Unfortunately, the math is simpler than you seem to like.  Most Americans can't name more than a few senators, but they can process some simple facts.

      Fact #1:  The majority of Senators have a 'Dem.' in front of their name.  In fact, that's now a fillibuster proof number.  

      Fact #2:  Nearly all Americans that vote know this simple Fact #1.  

      Fact #3:  A majority of the same group of Americans want health care reform.  They will not accept less.

      The outcome is simple to predict.  

      Absent real reform, Dems will not be able to 'position' themselves out of this one.  If they lose on healthcare reform, they lose the 2010 elections and likely the 2012 prez.

      Of course, that will make it that much easier for a 3rd party to move into the debate...so there is a silver lining.

      To DailyKos I'm a troll, Naderite, right wing conservative. Fortunately, I like dissent...just shake, stir and relax.

      by BOknows on Tue Aug 11, 2009 at 04:07:14 AM PDT

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      •  This blog is dedicated to electing Dems... (0+ / 0-)

        ...so you'd better watch the third party cheerleading.

        •  Drink the kool-aid (0+ / 0-)

          Do you work to elect dems simply for the sake of preserving the letters D-E-M in the political arena?

          I suggest that cheerleading blind adherence to a political party is exactly the reason why I like the idea of 3rd parties.

          To DailyKos I'm a troll, Naderite, right wing conservative. Fortunately, I like dissent...just shake, stir and relax.

          by BOknows on Tue Aug 11, 2009 at 04:28:55 AM PDT

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  •  Saw an interesting blog yesterday. (0+ / 0-)

    Basically, it talked about how the Senate was unrepresentative of the people--senators representing about 30 percent of the people wield about 70 percent of the power.

    Interesting point the author made, though, was that the unfair dominance is less Repub over Dem than Rural over Urban.

    Of course, rural Dems vote like Repubs, so it amounts to the same policies, but I just thought it was interesting.

    Wish I could find the link now.

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