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Many of us have heard about Remote Area Medical. They are the real-life heroes who are, without a lot of Odrama, are quietly helping the millions of Americans who can no longer afford to go to the doctor or the dentist.

A few weeks ago, they held their annual two day health care fair in Wise County, VA.

Well, the New York Times has an update today on the first few days of their Los Angeles event.

August 11-18, 2009
The Forum
3900 W. Manchester Blvd.
Inglewood, CA 90305

Predictably, thousands of people who can no longer afford mainstream health care lined up for care, some coming the day before to stand in line overnight because they knew that there could easily be more people than slots.

It being LA, where the appearance of having money is everything, many were shy and implied that they were there because "it was a great deal".

But the reality is that, like everywhere else in the US, the prices in the Los Angeles medical community are more than many can afford, or their insurance deductibles and co pays too high. (According to the New York Times, many attending the event were "insured", but for some reason, they couldn't afford to actually use it to get medical care.

This bodes ill for any health reform which asks Americans to pay the full price via premiums. Because at least 60-80% can no longer afford those premiums.

Read more about the unsustainable costs and why they doom any insurance-fixated "health reform" efforts.

Thousands Line Up for Promise of Free Health Care

Originally posted to Andiamo on Wed Aug 12, 2009 at 07:56 PM PDT.


Do you personally realize the implications of unaffordable health care prices for any insurance-based health reform "solution" that charges premiums, user fees or "cost sharing" based on costs that, unsubsidized, are already unaffordable for 70-80% of us?

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  •  Tip Jar (7+ / 0-)

    Not one Canadian who lost a job in this tough economy was bankrupted by medical bills or lost their right to government sponsored medical care.

    by Andiamo on Wed Aug 12, 2009 at 07:56:06 PM PDT

  •  See RenaRF's Rec List diary. n/t (0+ / 0-)

    "Go well through life"-Me (As far as I know)

    by MTmofo on Wed Aug 12, 2009 at 08:00:42 PM PDT

    •  I always encourage him to do his own, you should (3+ / 0-)
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      churchylafemme, MTmofo, pale cold

      ... rec this instead of dissing it.  He is providing another perspective, that the NYC wall street crowd is too insulated and too racist to acknowledge that the uninsured are not that way because they are "ee lee gal aye lee ins" or that they merely refuse to purchase insurance, and hence are "lazy" which is what the Republicans are all claiming.  

      "Toads of Glory, slugs of joy... as he trotted down the path before a dragon ate him"-Alex Hall/ Stop McClintock

      by AmericanRiverCanyon on Wed Aug 12, 2009 at 08:56:08 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  I find it telling that you try to trivialize (0+ / 0-)

        much of what I and many others who base their criticisms on unfortunate facts, say, while offering "solutions" that are intentionally broken.

        Not one Canadian who lost a job in this tough economy was bankrupted by medical bills or lost their right to government sponsored medical care.

        by Andiamo on Thu Aug 13, 2009 at 07:27:12 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

        •  If you had read the PDF that I linked you would (0+ / 0-)

          realize that its not the uninsured, its probably by now 70% of all Americans (it was around 60% in 2005) who can no longer afford the crappy employer provided health care that they get now, unsubsidized. The public option's quality will make it MORE EXPENSIVE than what they have now.

          The incredibly disruptive catastrophe of trust that we are headed towards is completely avoidable.

          Not one Canadian who lost a job in this tough economy was bankrupted by medical bills or lost their right to government sponsored medical care.

          by Andiamo on Thu Aug 13, 2009 at 07:31:25 AM PDT

          [ Parent ]

  •  I listened to Obama's N.H Town Hall.... (0+ / 0-)

    I wrote this diary, but that really was the tip of the iceberg.  

    Here's one of his responses:

    Of course. Well, first of all, I already mentioned that we would be taking savings out of Medicare that are currently going to insurance subsidies, for example. So that is absolutely true.

    I just want to be clear, again: Seniors who are listening here, this does not affect your benefits. This is not money going to you to pay for your benefits; this is money that is subsidizing folks who don't need it. So that's point number one.

    He's talking about taking away Medicare Advantage, which is something that many seniors relish.  It is cheaper, including drug benefits for free.  He is not explicit and many are reassured since he always says, "if you like your present policy, you can keep it" without adding, "unless you are on Medicare, then we will take it away."

    And he is just a bit condescending, ridiculing those who say keep your hands off of our medicare.  He plans to put his hands on it pretty severely.

    And we wonder why so many are irate.  

    •  The thing that bothers me the most is that (1+ / 0-)
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      literally half of us are too rich for subsidies but we still wont be able to afford public option insurance at what it will need to cost to be self supporting.

      The only people who will be able to afford it unsubsidized make a lot of money. They make so much money that they probably already have insurance.

      Not one Canadian who lost a job in this tough economy was bankrupted by medical bills or lost their right to government sponsored medical care.

      by Andiamo on Thu Aug 13, 2009 at 07:18:09 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  your comment on my post (0+ / 0-)

    thanks for your great work. sorry, just figuring out how to work kos.  we are still posting analysis on the health reform proposals at

    as you probably figured out by now: in HR 3200, individuals can join the health insurance exchange, including the public plan. The only problem is that it doesn't get up & running til 2013.  No subsidies for premiums over 400% of poverty - but there is an out of pocket limit, which is v. important.  Senate is another story entirely.

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