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Yeah, Joe Lieberman is a wanker. But consider the forum given to him yesterday to keep on lying about healthcare reform.

If Schieffer had bothered to challenge Lieberman on the blizzard of misinformation he spewed out in those few minutes, he would have exposed the hollowness of Lieberman’s arguments. But as is usually the case, all the questions he asked were about the politics of reform....

Among the baloney that Lieberman sneezed all over Schieffer:

  • He said a public option would "hurt the economic recovery." The public option, and the rest of health-care reform, won’t take effect until 2013.
  • He said including a public option will "end up causing the government to raise taxes, will probably raise premiums, or it will put us further into debt." The legislation mandates that the public option be paid for entirely by premiums, so it can’t cause the government to raise taxes or take on more debt. As for the public option "rais[ing] premiums," if Lieberman has an explanation for how it is supposed to lead private insurers to raise their premiums, I’d sure like to hear it. Some argue that competition from the public option will lead insurers to lower their premiums, while others are skeptical. But this is the first time I’ve heard anyone suggest what Lieberman did, because it is simply nonsense.
  • He said "The public option I think was raised in the last year by people who really want to have a government-controlled health insurance system." Actually, there were versions of the public option in the plans proposed during the 2008 campaign by Obama, Hillary Clinton, and John Edwards.

You don’t have to be a health-care wonk to know that these things are false. All you have to be is informed on the debate that is currently gripping Washington. But Schieffer challenged Lieberman on none of his claims -- in fact, Schieffer didn't ask him a single substantive question during their discussion about health care.

Lazy? Stupid? Indifferent? It doesn't really matter which of those things Bob Schieffer is. What matters is that once again, Joe Lieberman got a national forum to self-glorify and spew a bunch of lies.

Originally posted to Daily Kos on Mon Nov 02, 2009 at 12:36 PM PST.

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  •  Usually these shows offer a different (11+ / 0-)

    POV from someone in the opposing political party for balance - was there a Democrat on to rebut him?

    Your flag decal won't get you into heaven anymore - John Prine

    by blueyescryinintherain on Mon Nov 02, 2009 at 12:39:05 PM PST

    •  The GOP/Lieberman Argument (6+ / 0-)

      ... against the public option -- as explained by Chan Lowe, editorial cartoonist for the South Florida Sun-Sentinel


      (Click on cartoon for larger image)

      :: ::

      Critics complain that the public option is a Trojan horse that will eventually usher in the dreaded single-payer government health plan, and be the death of private insurers. I'm not sure where the threat lies here: it's like saying that introducing penicillin will mean the death of venereal disease.

      Anyway, it should please states-rights conservatives that the Democratic leadership is offering a state opt-out as a sweetener.  This way, blue states can have their public option, and red states can--on principle--reject its subversive, godless, socialistic philosophical underpinnings if they want to.

      Of course, if the red-staters begin to notice that the blue-staters' premiums are falling precipitously, there may be a reapportionment of legislators in the next statewide elections. Money always talks, and...well, you know the rest of the expression.

      Latest Diary, October 20th - A riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma

      by JekyllnHyde on Mon Nov 02, 2009 at 12:48:54 PM PST

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      •  Forgot Link (0+ / 0-)

        Latest Diary, October 20th - A riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma

        by JekyllnHyde on Mon Nov 02, 2009 at 12:50:25 PM PST

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      •  However, there is some logic to Lieberman's point (0+ / 0-)

        Not to defend Lieberman, but his supposition that a public option would cause private insurance rates to go up isn't entirely crazy.  Let me see if I can illustrate the point.

        Let's say you're a hospital emergency room.  A certain procedure costs you $500 to perform.  Now, a private insurer negotiates with you to pay $550 for the procedure and all is well.  Then the public option comes to you and says they'll pay you only $400 for the procedure but that you will get access to their big pool of patients.

        So of course, at $400, you're losing money, but what you can do is renegotiate with the private insurer at a higher rate, say, $650.  This means that, on average, you're still making money.  Thus the cost savings in the public option is passed onto the private insurer.

        Now why would you do this as that hospital?  Because if you don't, then those patients on the public option will show up at your emergency room anyhow.  So you'd rather take the lower fees rather than get nothing at all.  Then you make up for those losses by passing the cost onto private insurers or the uninsured.

        One example though of how this is happening today is in the pharmaceutical industry.  In the US we pay a lot more for drugs than other countries do.  We do so because we don't engage in collective bargaining with the pharma companies.  So what happens is France goes and negotiates a price for the entire country and gets a lower rate because of it.  In the US we don't so we all pay a higher rate.  If we negotiated prices in the US, we'd see the price of the drugs go up in France because pharma wouldn't be offsetting those losses by charging us.

        •  Does Pharma run an ad every 10 minutes during (1+ / 0-)
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          prime time television in France pushing marginal drugs of dubious effectiveness?  I don't think so.  If they stopped running up a huge advertising budget for boner pills and the like, they would incur much less expense and could set their prices on merely exorbitant rather than outrageous.

          And it feels like I'm livin'in the wasteland of the free ~ Iris DeMent, 1996

          by MrJersey on Mon Nov 02, 2009 at 01:30:43 PM PST

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      •  Did Lieberman get immunity from fact check (0+ / 0-)

        when he became an Independant Republican?

        it tastes like burning...

        by eastvan on Mon Nov 02, 2009 at 02:07:57 PM PST

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    •  The village refuses to recognize the fact that (3+ / 0-)

      Holy Joe is Not a Democrat.  And from the tender treatment accorded to him by the Democratic leadership, even after he paraded himself all over the stage at the Republican Convention and actively campaigned for McCain, I cannot blame the village for that assumption.  The Republicans would have accorded him the Jim Jeffords treatment and shunned him, spit on the ground when he walked by, and offered up prayers for God to smite him.  What form of retribution is administered by the Democrats: The Comfy Chair.  Please sir, give me another.

      And it feels like I'm livin'in the wasteland of the free ~ Iris DeMent, 1996

      by MrJersey on Mon Nov 02, 2009 at 01:20:27 PM PST

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      •  Not this village. Diary poll last nite on Joe (0+ / 0-)

        (that is still open) here has more than half of us advocating for Lieberman's ouster from the Democratic Caucus right now, based on the fact that his disloyalty has already far surpassed the bounds of acceptability, and an additional 30% saying that if he joins the Repugs in a filibuster, he should be shown the door.

        "But there is so much more to do." - Barack Obama, Nov. 4, 2008

        by flitedocnm on Mon Nov 02, 2009 at 02:02:50 PM PST

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        •  The "village" is the general term for the (1+ / 0-)
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          DC press corp as examined in this article linked here.  I was not referring to "the village" as this site since most of us here wanted Holy Joe to walk the plank since he ungraciously refused to bow out when the Democrats in Connecticut chose not to nominate him, and he then took to opportunity to be elected by Connecticut Republicans.  Democratic leadership were the enablers, however, because they continued to forgive and reward Joe every time he worked against Democratic interests.  If Joe had his way, McCain would be President, Palin would be VP, and he would be chairing a Senate committee for the Republicans.    

          And it feels like I'm livin'in the wasteland of the free ~ Iris DeMent, 1996

          by MrJersey on Mon Nov 02, 2009 at 03:51:05 PM PST

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  •  The Senator just wants attention. (5+ / 0-)
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    He wants his hand held for the vote.  It's just sad commentary when someone well-behaved like Ben Cardin isn't rewarded for his good behavior while Joe Lieberman is rewarded for bad behavior.

    Operator, operator -- what's the number for 9-1-1? - Homer Simpson

    by jim bow on Mon Nov 02, 2009 at 12:40:17 PM PST

  •  Joe wants the ring (8+ / 0-)

    The folded coffin flag means nothing to me but a receipt from the Masters of War to the pawns in the games.

    by BOHICA on Mon Nov 02, 2009 at 12:41:22 PM PST

  •  The talking heads (13+ / 0-)

    are increasingly merely bringing on people who will spout only the talking points with which they agree. See Jed's video of Chris "Softball" Wallace today (below).

    Schieffer is a far-right tool, we have known this for a long time.

    The best way to save the planet is to keep laughing!

    by LaughingPlanet on Mon Nov 02, 2009 at 12:42:16 PM PST

    •  The networks (2+ / 0-)
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      which pay the pundits know how much ad revenue they stand to lose if we actually enact a public option which doesn't spend billions on advertising.

      The corporate "liberal" media knows who butters their bread, and they're not about to bite the hand that feeds them. Lazy and corrupt they may be, but not stupid.

      Al Qeada is a faith-based initiative.

      by drewfromct on Mon Nov 02, 2009 at 12:45:16 PM PST

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    •  Schieffer's bro was W's ambassador to Japan (2+ / 0-)
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      ... and later W's ambassador to Australia.

      http://www.nytimes.com/...

      Tom Schieffer was recently nominated by President Bush - his friend and former business partner in the Texas Rangers baseball team - to be ambassador to Japan, and Bob Schieffer, the longtime host of "Face the Nation" on CBS, will soon become interim anchor of "CBS Evening News."

      What would Bob do if he had to introduce a segment on the evening news about how Japan and the United States are confronting North Korea? And how would Tom respond to CBS inquiries about classified data concerning not only North Korea's suspected nuclear arsenal but also American economic strategy in Asia?

      No problem, both of them say.

      Thank you, Justice Souter.

      by MJB on Mon Nov 02, 2009 at 04:09:09 PM PST

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  •  The public option will cause (8+ / 0-)

    bleeding welts to break out on my dog's rump.

    There, I'm as credible as Lieberman.

    klaatu barada nikto

    by JohnGor0 on Mon Nov 02, 2009 at 12:42:28 PM PST

  •  Since Lieberman (6+ / 0-)

    says he doesn't want the government to be running anything, does that mean he'll be firing his entire office staff and replacing them with temps from a private employment agency? Or will he just retire and no longer be a part of the gov't-run Senate altogether?

    Put your money where your big, fat, lying mouth is, Joe!

    Al Qeada is a faith-based initiative.

    by drewfromct on Mon Nov 02, 2009 at 12:42:41 PM PST

  •  Talking Points (5+ / 0-)

    ..just talking points. Schieffer serves 'em up, Lieberman pops them back over the net. No return. Quite the game, eh?

    Here we are now Entertain us I feel stupid and contagious

    by Scarce on Mon Nov 02, 2009 at 12:43:04 PM PST

  •  Shows How Far CBS Has Fallen....... (8+ / 0-)

    The network of Cronkite and Sevaried is now just a fluffer for the the likes of Lieberman.

  •  Schieffer doesn't do that...not in his dna... (4+ / 0-)
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    don't rock the boat....I got mine....screw you.

  •  Lazy? Stupid? Indifferent? No........ (6+ / 0-)

    Just a pawn doing the bidding of his corporate masters in the MSM.

    YOu want the million dollars Bob? Do the story like "THIS".

  •  The visual of Joe Lieberman sneezing baloney (2+ / 0-)
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    is one I can do without.

    In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice; but in practice, there always is a difference. - Yogi Berra

    by blue aardvark on Mon Nov 02, 2009 at 12:44:05 PM PST

  •  Lazy? Stupid? Indifferent? (5+ / 0-)

    you've found the new abbreviation for the MSM=LSI

  •  the so-called "news" is complicit in such lies (1+ / 0-)
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    frandor55
    Republicans and other fascists can tell any lie, the bigger the better, on TV... unchallenged.
    The so-called "newsmen" who sit back and allow it are as evil & traitorous as the Republicans who tell the lies.

    "She's petite, extremely beautiful, and heavily armed." -Sheriff Bud Boomer, Canadian Bacon

    by Tom Seaview on Mon Nov 02, 2009 at 12:46:19 PM PST

  •  Schieffer has always (3+ / 0-)

    seemed confused and befuddled to me, not particularly on top of things. I'd be much more surprised had he done a great interview full of skepticism and knowledge.

    Seek you change the be.

    by itsbenj on Mon Nov 02, 2009 at 12:46:41 PM PST

  •  I'm tellin' ya, guys ... (3+ / 0-)
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    darrelplant, Tuba Les, Tom Seaview

    ... in a weird way, we dodged a bullet on Bush v. Gore in 2000. We could have ended up with Joementum as VP. The philosophical question is whether 8 years of Bush/Cheney would be worse than having a President Lieberman right now.

    ---

    •  Maybe (1+ / 0-)
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      I certainly would rather have had Gore as President than 8 years of Bush. Maybe as VP Lieberman would have been SO bad that Gore would have dumped him after 4 years.

      As for Lieberman being President now? That would have meant 5 Democrats elected in a row, not impossible, but unlikely. It was Bush/Cheney's poor showing that caused the resurgance of Democrats starting in 2006. Without Bush to rally the Democrats, Republicans would have certainly done better at this point.

      But you are right. Lieberman is such a rat that if he had become President, we would suffer big time.

      I am confused. No, wait! Maybe I'm not!

      by Tuba Les on Mon Nov 02, 2009 at 01:49:56 PM PST

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  •  Expecting Journalism from CBS (5+ / 0-)
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    wsexson, AllanTBG, jds1978, stanjz, Tom Seaview
    is like expecting peanut butter to come out of a dogs ass.
  •  I'm convinced that journalists are the dumbest.. (3+ / 0-)
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    people on the planet.  They certainly validate this generalist statement every time a story like this comes up.   I remember everyone I ever ran into in college, that was in the journalism school, was there because they couldn't handle the business school, or their economics major.

  •  Lieberman should run for President in 2012 (2+ / 0-)
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    He's the one Republican who has put up an effective opposition to Obama and the Democrats.

  •  He is a complete tool (4+ / 0-)

    and lying at will.

    If he is so worried about the fiscal situation of the government he would ask if we can afford these stinking wars that are bankrupting the country.

    He is partially right about the public option to the extent that the father of it (George Hacker) is a Single Payer advocate.

    The bitter truth of deep inequality has been disguised by an era of cheap imported goods and the anyone-can-make-it celebrity myth - Polly Toynbee

    by fladem on Mon Nov 02, 2009 at 12:49:55 PM PST

  •  How about (2+ / 0-)
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    jds1978, George Pirpiris

    'Dear Friend of the Bush Family', which we've all known for years and yet we keep praising him for his integrity and signing him up to moderate Presidential Debates.

  •  Lazy? Stupid? Indifferent? (2+ / 0-)
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    Remove the question marks.  The remnants of the old-media, Bob "Tell us how you feel about God" Schieffer included, exhibit all three characteristics.

    They really can't compete with bloggers, and have given up.

    "I'm just sayin... don't bring that horse in here!" -- Cassandra

    by tc59 on Mon Nov 02, 2009 at 12:51:05 PM PST

    •  Ya gotta wonder if CBS has given up on Sunday AM (0+ / 0-)

      (by hanging in there with this sad, weak entry), or if it's intentional.

      I've given up on all Sunday AM shows.

      I think that people want peace so much that one of these days government had better get out of their way and let them have it. - Dwight D. Eisenhower

      by scrape on Mon Nov 02, 2009 at 01:23:45 PM PST

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      •  They don't even watch it anymore. (1+ / 0-)
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        Just fill some time because we are required to by law.

        "I'm just sayin... don't bring that horse in here!" -- Cassandra

        by tc59 on Mon Nov 02, 2009 at 01:26:52 PM PST

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        •  When you consider how sad the sets for MTP & FTN (0+ / 0-)

          look, it really does appear they are simply filling time. They're sure not put more than a buck fifty into furniture and backdrops. This Week uses the Newseum's windows and their view as a backdrop (a cheap way to look good). But these other two shows look like they're done in someone's basement.

          I think that people want peace so much that one of these days government had better get out of their way and let them have it. - Dwight D. Eisenhower

          by scrape on Mon Nov 02, 2009 at 01:31:55 PM PST

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          •  Spend too much on furniture and the News Division (0+ / 0-)

            is no longer a profit center and we all know that it is critical for all these corporations to make a profit from the news.

            And it feels like I'm livin'in the wasteland of the free ~ Iris DeMent, 1996

            by MrJersey on Mon Nov 02, 2009 at 01:34:21 PM PST

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  •  Go on Maddow, you cowardly prick. (6+ / 0-)

    Seriously. He whines piously about how no-one wants to debate the issues, then he only shows up in venues where he knows no-one will debate the issues. Weasly little fuck.

    “If I can't dance to it, it's not my revolution.” — Emma Goldman

    by Jyrinx on Mon Nov 02, 2009 at 12:51:23 PM PST

  •  Bob Schieffer Is Nothing (4+ / 0-)

    But another enormous GOP tool ........

  •  Bob S= Rush's ditto head (2+ / 0-)
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    After Bob's quoting Rush, I was unable to finish viewing "Face the Nation."  It is very clear that Fox is leading the news network.  Someone like Bob has become Rush's ditto head.  It is not surprising that he did not want to question Joe.  Now, how can we hold journalists accountable?  

  •  One more possibility: (3+ / 0-)
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    Lazy? Stupid? Indifferent? It doesn't really matter which of those things Bob Schieffer is. What matters is that once again, Joe Lieberman got a national forum to self-glorify and spew a bunch of lies.

    COMPLICIT.

    Multi-millionaire media talking heads like Schieffer are well rewarded by the corporations they work for, and these corporations have a big interest in killing healthcare reform.  They've been making a lot of money for a long time, squeezing money out of Americans by threatening their our lives.

    Schieffer and his ilk may indeed be lazy, stupid, or indifferent.  But they're also part of the cozy Beltway-corporate axis that makes a lot of $$$$ by painting false pictures of what most Americans experience.  He gets paid very nicely to keep the discussion within acceptable corporate bounds, just like Joe Lieberman does.

    Fox "News" = Republican PRAVDA.

    by chumley on Mon Nov 02, 2009 at 12:57:55 PM PST

  •  Schieffer's demise (3+ / 0-)
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    Schieffer used to be fairly competent reporter, one of the last from the old Cronkite/Rather days.  When he was given his shot at punditry he immediately made it clear that he was Pro-Texan (he's a Texan, I believe)... ie.  with Commander Codpiece man-love and he never looked back.

    So it's no surprise that he's given Lieberman and other republicans more than sufficient air time to share their rather narrow, plutocratic views of life, the universe and everything.   It's something called VDS, Villager Dystopian Syndrome, where everything is worse since That Man became President.  The last evidence of VDS was from 1992-2000, and wonder of wonders, HoJo was behaving like a moralistically craptastic republican then too.

  •  Forget 'Face the Nation'; (2+ / 0-)

    I'd rather watch Face THE NATION.

    Ref.: http://www.thenation.com/

    Barack Obama in the Oval Office: There's a black man who knows his place.

    by Greasy Grant on Mon Nov 02, 2009 at 01:01:59 PM PST

  •  remove Lieberman's Committee Chair (0+ / 0-)

    If he is going to not be a part of the Democratic Party why is he being tolerated in such an important position?

  •  Schieffer, Gregory, Stephanopoulos? (4+ / 0-)

    They have all become little more than a clean safe place for interviews, where you are guaranteed a happy ending!

    Isn't it time for God Satan to stop dithering on Dick Cheney's heart?

    by seenos on Mon Nov 02, 2009 at 01:05:12 PM PST

    •  They don't challenge anyone too hard because they (0+ / 0-)

      may never come back, and in the village, access is much more important than encouraging someone to tell the truth.

      And it feels like I'm livin'in the wasteland of the free ~ Iris DeMent, 1996

      by MrJersey on Mon Nov 02, 2009 at 01:23:44 PM PST

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  •  Shieffer is McCain's base (1+ / 0-)
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    didja see the fool in his box at the GOP convention cheerleading for McCain? They are socially close buddies and Shieffer gets to fly on his wifes private jet and be served by loyal servants.

  •  Uh,was there a time when Schieffer was different? (1+ / 0-)
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    I don't remember it.

    More and more, "news" and opinion shows compete on how much controversy they have on.

    Sore Loserman figured this out years ago.

  •  It's the total lack of good journalism. (1+ / 0-)
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    It's not confined to Schieffer but all news media. They do not journalistic work on the topic or the person being interviewed. They don't investigate the topic (public option in this case) so have no knowledge of or ask intelligent question about the subject. They don't investigate the person being interviewed for what their previous positions were, their financial back ground etc.

    The media simply sit there while person makes a statement.

    Most news consists of statements issued by this or that person and no checking of facts.

    Schieffer should have noted that Lieberman promised CT voters health care reform and asked Lieberman what he proposed that would lower costs, provide universal care and improve US outcomes from 37th to top 10.

    Ask Lieberman (and every politician) why European systems work so well with lower cost, 100% coverage and top 10 results using "government run" health care systems?

  •  Would it matter? (1+ / 0-)
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    Schieffer is absolutely a tool, don't get me wrong, but it's not like Holy Joe would stop uttering these bullshit rationales just because somebody pointed out that they are all bullshit. Hell, I'm sure he knows they're bullshit. His entire public persona is 100% grade-A bullshit, but he's never let that stop him. You might have swayed the 8 people who watched Face the Nation  yesterday and were swayable, but even that is doubtful.

    No, I think the rage he would be more properly directed at Senate leadership. Why is Lieberman still caucusing with the Democrats and chairing an important committee again? Oh, right, 60 votes. That really worked out well.

  •  Can't you just imagine it (1+ / 0-)
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    with LIEberman being called in by his healthcare overlords:

    Overlords: Ok, Joe this is what we need you to do. Call a press conference and start insinuating that you'll protect the Country from this evil public option thing.

    Joe: (panting and drooling saliva) (giving ugly dogs a good name) roh-k

    Overlords: Go on lame media outlets and spew your lies unchallenged!

    Joe: (rolling over looking for a tummy scratch while  panting with the usual drooling) roh-k

    Overlords: When anybody challenges you mock them and call them the fringe left. Ok that ought to do it. Now Joe get your ass moving. Oh and here's your biscuit you sorry ass.

    Joe: roh-k Masters

    We used to elect politicians that mirrored the people, now we elect politicians that mirror the corporations.

    by rsie on Mon Nov 02, 2009 at 01:16:44 PM PST

  •  CBS should just shorten their letters to BS (2+ / 0-)
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    I'm not sure which wanker I despise more- Bob Schieffer or Chip Reid.

    In an insane society, the sane man would appear insane

    by TampaCPA on Mon Nov 02, 2009 at 01:20:06 PM PST

  •  How dare we criticize Bob Schieffer for (0+ / 0-)

    doing the job he is paid to do:  let whatever right wing hack who is on the show spew lies and distortions without challenge.  That is Schieffer's job, isn't it?

  •  just more evidence that CBS and the entire (0+ / 0-)

    media are nothing but a socialist, heathen, communist left wing Obamanot cabal who want to control all thought.

  •  How about just (0+ / 0-)

    asking him what made him change his mind since 06??  These "journalists" are brainless turds.

    "Mediocrity cannot know excellence." -- Sherlock Holmes

    by La Gitane on Mon Nov 02, 2009 at 01:26:01 PM PST

  •  Is it really gonna take till '13 (0+ / 0-)
    for public option to kick in?  That's not good.
  •  Scheiffer sucks and he's always sucked. \ (0+ / 0-)

    Not only is he a card carrying member of the corporate media, he's very partial to Rethuglican rule despite years of the being eyeball to eyeball with the evidence that Rethugs don't make very good rulers.

    "They had fangs. They were biting people. They had this look in their eyes,totally cold, animal. I think they were young Republicans."

    by slouching on Mon Nov 02, 2009 at 01:50:01 PM PST

  •  Bob Schieffer is a Cheney buddy (0+ / 0-)

    Expecting Bob Schieffer to follow up on disinformation (look it up) is naive.

    Schieffer repeatedly offered Dick Cheney a forum for disinformation.

    My sad observation is that Schieffer would prefer to be on FauxNoise to join Bernie Goldberg.

  •  Dinosaur journalist just working on reputation (1+ / 0-)
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    now. When will these anachronisms retire for good? Grumpy old white men still leading the debates, showing up occasionally for "specials?" Can't they feed their egos by writing their memoirs or something?

    The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts. Bertrand Russell

    by gereiztkind on Mon Nov 02, 2009 at 02:45:32 PM PST

  •  Lets hope someone calls him out on it (0+ / 0-)

    There was no follow up question.

    How would this have been different on Fox?

    The easiest follow up would be "Why have you abandaned so abruptly your support for Universal Healthcare?"

  •  Lieberman slammed in today's Hartford Courant. (0+ / 0-)

    A friend just called me and told me to check out todays Hartford Courant for an editorial and some columns that paint a very unpleasant picture of Joe Lieberman.  I haven't had a chance to check it out yet, but I wanted to suggest that anyone interested go to The Hartford Courant, November 2, if they're interested.  Joe Lieberman has been saying that he's going to campaign for Connecticut Republicans and by now I think most people in Connecticut are sick of listening to this man.  He's like a bad dream that keeps coming back.

  •  Sleazerman goes where the money is.... (0+ / 0-)

    I`ll bet that if a good investigative reporter were to probe this man`s behavior the last several years, there would be criminality galore.
    The Dems SHOULD TAKE THE LYING SCUMBAGS CHAIR AWAY FROM HIM.

  •  Schieffer's Brother Is Bush's Ambassador (0+ / 0-)

    Bob Schieffer's brother, Tom Schieffer, was Bush Jr's US Ambassador to Australia for Bush's entire first term, then his US Ambassador to Japan for the entire second term. I mentioned it when Bob Schieffer moderated the Bush/Kerry debate in 2004, but everyone I knew in the TV news biz said "professionals don't let that interfere with doing their job". Bullshit.

    That stark fact should appear in a caption under Bob Schieffer's face every time it floats across a TV screen. Just like under Andrea Mitchell's face should stand a caption explaining that she's Alan Greenspan's wife.

    Someday Net TV will let us tag them for ourselves, so we don't forget. Until then, just look at the lies and cooperation between what's billed as natural enemies, armed with the truth.

    The mediacracy hates us.

    "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - HST

    by DocGonzo on Mon Nov 02, 2009 at 09:43:36 PM PST

  •  Bob is a great friend of the bush family. (0+ / 0-)
    Ergo, he is a right-wing shill.  He needn't say a word, he just has other right-wing shrills to do it for him.  Ergo, Joe LIEberman.

    Indict, convict, imprison. "Those who do not learn from the past are condemned to repeat it." George Santayana

    by incognita on Tue Nov 03, 2009 at 08:29:18 AM PST

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