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Why does the richest nation in the world treat people so poorly?
Why would a country extinguish its own prosperous middle class?
Why is our national education system failing?
Why are fundamental human rights denied to gay and lesbian soldiers and couples?
Why are our individual rights to privacy and protection being eroded?
Why are we destroying our environment for profit?
Why do our minorities suffer ongoing economic, educational and institutionalized discrimination?
Why is health care for profit not a crime?
Why is credit card loan sharking not a crime?
Why is there no intelligent long range awareness of climate change and the world population explosion?
Why is Congress owned by Wall Street?
Why is there Fox News?
Why do we torture and kill in the name of freedom?
Why have we let the wealthy become so powerful?
Why is our power structure so resistant to change?
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Each of these questions is disturbing when considered alone, but taken together they paint an alarming picture of a civilization moving towards self destruction.

"Something's happening here, what it is ain't exactly clear"

My question to you....  
What "why" questions would you ask?...
and do you have any answers?

What is the dynamic that is shredding the fabric of our nation?

The sooner we understand it, the clearer will become the corrective action we collectively need to take.

Ironic that with all the talk of health care for individual citizens, our nation itself is symptomatic.
We need an accurate diagnosis that shows how all these dysfunctions are all interconnected symptoms of an underlying dynamic.  

Here's the meta question for the United States of America in November of 2009.
What the hell is going on?.......
and how do we fix it?

Originally posted to crystal eyes on Wed Nov 04, 2009 at 08:33 AM PST.

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  •  All good questions and all have the same (3+ / 0-)
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    crystal eyes, mochajava13, publicv

    answer. The Oligarchy wants it this way and they will play the masses one against the other to keep it that way.  Ad infinitum...

    GS was profitable in 63 of 64 trading days last quarter.  A percentage of 98.4 of the time they were on the winning side of the trade.  Are they really that good?  I'm sure the new SEC commissioner will get right on it...oh wait, he's a GS guy...nevermind.

    ~War is Peace~Freedom is Slavery~Ignorance is Strength~ George Orwell "1984"

    by Kristina40 on Wed Nov 04, 2009 at 08:46:30 AM PST

  •  Because there is a power structure we (2+ / 0-)
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    need to rid this country of, where people are seen as things and not humans.  The better people are taken care of, the better educated we are, the least effective this power structure will be at attaining their goal.  What is their goal?  

    I think it has to do with corporatism and the global market.  There are so many people in the entire world to pitch products too, and key corporations have grown so globally, that there is no allegiance to the nation that spwawned them.

    Money is the god and the key that allows them to undermine and forward their agenda of weakening the human race to bend humans to their will and feed their greed and feel like we need them, and maybe just to force a few of us off a cliff with their heavy handedness in tactic.

    One day money will have to be defeated, so they can be defeated.

    'If we lift our voice as one, there's nothing that can't be done' MJ

    by publicv on Wed Nov 04, 2009 at 08:47:21 AM PST

  •  Howard Dean's prescription: Our belief system (3+ / 0-)
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    TexMex, greengemini, publicv

    needs to be real

    The way we`re going to win elections in this country is not to become Republican lite. The way we`re going to win elections in this country is to stand up for what we believe in.

    If cats could blog.... they wouldn't.

    by crystal eyes on Wed Nov 04, 2009 at 08:50:37 AM PST

  •  Because the monied interests and their supporters (2+ / 0-)
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    crystal eyes, greengemini

    are the only ones that show up at the polls, and very few voters are motivated by rational issues.  When particiation increases, these issues benefit.  When it declines we retrench as a society.  Expectations are unrealistic. It will take more than one election cycle to fix the problems.

    "Nothing is more powerful than an idea whose time has come." Victor Hugo

    by lordcopper on Wed Nov 04, 2009 at 08:51:35 AM PST

    •  It is curious.... (2+ / 0-)
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      Why do poor conservative flunkies vote against their own financial self-interest in such numbers year after year?

      My answer: We don't teach critical thinking skills in school, and the rich own television content.  We are conditioned to respond like Pavlov's dogs to a television command.

      If cats could blog.... they wouldn't.

      by crystal eyes on Wed Nov 04, 2009 at 08:59:03 AM PST

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      •  You are close. Critical thinking is (1+ / 0-)
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        crystal eyes

        indeed needed, but our system does not have a place for it.  We can only vote for one of two evils.  Critical thinking will not make a great deal of difference.

        Might and Right are always fighting, in our youth it seems exciting. Right is always nearly winning, Might can hardly keep from grinning.

        by hestal on Wed Nov 04, 2009 at 09:03:05 AM PST

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      •  True, but we're talking about motivation. A vast (2+ / 0-)
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        crystal eyes, greengemini

        majority of potential voters agree on the issues, they simply aren't motivated to add their voices to the conversation.   Possibly because the decision is cast as all or nothing, or the lesser of two evils.

        One thing I've discovered is that most people don't like conflict.  As a person who is comfortable with conflict, I've often found it difficult to understand human behavior.  It's taken me years to understand that some people simply don't want to take a stand on contentious issues, or even stand up for their rights.

        "Nothing is more powerful than an idea whose time has come." Victor Hugo

        by lordcopper on Wed Nov 04, 2009 at 09:26:27 AM PST

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  •  I believe it's fear, (3+ / 0-)
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    crystal eyes.

    We've allowed fear to override any reasonable thinking process.  We've elected officials who convey and reflect actual/rational and fictional/irrational fears.

    Fear leads to hate, in my experience.

    Fear, that if someone has the same as what others have got, the others might, not even will, just might, somehow lose something and that loss might escalate to some sort of loss in themselves or their lives and/or anyone that they care about and/or their lives.  Having more than someone else gives many status and worth.

    Fear causes a world of ills on seemingly endless levels.

    How to stop it?  I believe looking at things rationally and logically is a start.  Thinking for oneself is another.  Speaking solely for myself, I've stopped allowing "experts" tell me what's best for me.  Even doctors.  While they've paid a lot to possess and exercise a plethora of book-knowledge and have earned my respect, I've lived in my body for well over 50 years.  I know a bit more about my body than they do.  Me, personally, is not completely or wholly depicted on page 732 of any medical journal.  I'll take their advice, after all this is what I pay them for; however, any of them having the final word about me or my life just isn't happening.

    Thinking for oneself is key - in my life, anyway.  As long as my gray matter continues to function, I'll continue to do so.

    "Ancora Imparo." ("I am still learning.") - Michelangelo, Age 87

    by Dreaming of Better Days on Wed Nov 04, 2009 at 08:53:29 AM PST

  •  Read History (2+ / 0-)
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    The United States was founded by people who were ruthlessly ambitious and willing to kill to get what they wanted.  The number of Indian people killed in the process, beginning with Columbus, has been estimated in the range of 10 million or more people.  

    Slavery, an extension of the colonizing process begun by the Columbus and the Spanish, continued for centuries before a maturing public sense of morality overcame the sheer greed involved.  Centuries.  

    We still are a people who ignore what we do not want to see, particularly when people in other countries are affected.  We have treated the rest of humanity to a manifestly two faced way of being.

    The need for progress is the need to recognize history as the dark place we all come from, and to move towards the light of the future as it should be.  

    This cannot be done through naivete.  It is imperative to understand history well and thoroughly in order to understand the magnitude of the challenge involved and to be capable of being equal to it.

    hope that the idiots who have no constructive and creative solutions but only look to tear down will not win the day.

    by Stuart Heady on Wed Nov 04, 2009 at 09:00:44 AM PST

    •  I think you are on to something (1+ / 0-)
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      greengemini

      We still are a people who ignore what we do not want to see

      Perceptual distortion is at the root of our dysfunction.

      We are suffering from spin sickness.

      From morning to night we listen to half truths and lies in commercial advertising, news management and political framing.  

      I'm not sure we know what the truth sounds like any more because we so rarely hear it.  

      If cats could blog.... they wouldn't.

      by crystal eyes on Wed Nov 04, 2009 at 09:07:56 AM PST

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  •  The answer to your question is obvious, (0+ / 0-)

    Dear Diarist, and several commenters have answered it above.  But the answer to your second question, "how do we fix it?" is not so obvious.

    Howard Dean's idea won't work -- he means well, but he is saying, "stay the course."  In fact that is what most people propose: "stay the course."  They will deny it, but it is so.  Most people have no answer.

    The answer is that we must replace the current system with a new one, one that involves millions of our citizens each year in the administration of all branches of our national government.  We need to replace the corrupt election system.  We need to use modern technologies to carry out the principles laid down by the framers: limited power, for a limited time, for a limited purpose.  There is much more to say about this but it has already been said.

    The problem that stands between now and a victorious future is the instinctive reluctance of the people, even unhappy ones, to work for change.  People are willing to work within the existing system.  This site has proven that fact in spades.  But challenging the system, saying that the system must be replaced never gets off the ground.  

    Unless and until the People are willing to replace, let me repeat: "REPLACE" the current system then we are doomed to repeat our history.

    Might and Right are always fighting, in our youth it seems exciting. Right is always nearly winning, Might can hardly keep from grinning.

    by hestal on Wed Nov 04, 2009 at 09:01:01 AM PST

  •  all of that is because (1+ / 0-)
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    crystal eyes

    We now have a culture of laziness and partying. We worship taking time off and not working and going on holiday. People who have no money go on cruises and vacation trips to Mexico.
    Tine away from work has more value than a great job.
    Every time we used the word we it excuses us individually.
    So many of us like to be ignorant and no bother with stuff, kinda the "Let George do it"  mentality.
    "Not my problem"
    Obama is certain part of the solution as we see in him some one who says he will pick up a mop and work to clean the mess.
    GWB was someone who spent lots of time seeking "balance" and hanging out cutting brush.
    However that said, bad times will help us realize that if WE don't do it it won't get done.
    Too many parents protest home work, hand their kids things, they don't deserve. Then are disappointed when they don;t want to continue thier education.  "We shouldn't have to go to university to get a good paying job."

    We no longer admire a hard worker.

    We have fractured ourselves into a myriad of factions and very personal interests and have no real sense of community.
    We don't like to follow authority and want to see what is in it for us.
    I have always thought that we lost something when the 60's came along and it became about me me me.  Don't tell me what to do, down with the establishment(parents).
    I never bought into the whole set of values that came with the hippy revolution and it's turn on and drop out message.

    This is an exaggeration to be sure and an over simplification.

    We don't see ourselves as Americans.  I think that Obama and company have started to turn this culture around but the rest of us need to jump on board and get with it.
    Smart people are called nerds
    Industrious people are called suckers
    Apathetic people who don't care about things are .......cool
    We sit and watch boring people do stupid stuff like families swapping moms and follow young people around their house and enjoy when "animals going bad" because anything else would make you think.

    I was a teacher so I am pretty judgmental.
    How many time i was told that I "was soooo dedicated", as a back handed slap for working too hard by other teachers.

    We as Democrats and Americans need to grab back the values concept from the Republicans who don't really believe it.

    •  I'm a teacher too (1+ / 0-)
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      and my key to a successful classroom was "community building through personal transformation". I taught Special Ed kids with severe emotional/behavioral problems.  
      When my kids learned that being successful with others means changing their belief systems.  It means taking responsibility for their actions and learning how to have real accomplishment in their life.
      They can change their life path of delinquency and dropping out to success and inclusion by changing their thinking.

      Cultivating values, beliefs, and disciplined skill-building sound so Republican because they have stolen the family values brand and have misused it.

      I agree, let's be Democrats who live our values.

      If cats could blog.... they wouldn't.

      by crystal eyes on Wed Nov 04, 2009 at 10:00:10 AM PST

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  •  Some answers, if I may.... (0+ / 0-)

    Why does the richest nation in the world treat people so poorly?

    Compared to every other country? It doesn't.

    Why would a country extinguish its own prosperous middle class?

    Because that prosperous middle class is a bunch of cheapskates who don't want to spend all their income on T-shirts.

    Why is our national education system failing?

    Because there's so much more to know. It used to be you could get a decent job with what is now considered a grade-school education. Plus there was coproral punishment.

    Why are fundamental human rights denied to gay and lesbian soldiers and couples?

    I could explain, but there are some here who would donut me out of existence.

    Why are our individual rights to privacy and protection being eroded?

    Because they are new and the people on the Supreme Court fondly remember when they weren't there.

    Why are we destroying our environment for profit?

    Because we don't want to live in extreme poverty.

    Why do our minorities suffer ongoing economic, educational and institutionalized discrimination?

    In general they don't.

    Why is health care for profit not a crime?

    Because doctors, nurses and other healthcare workers do not wish to live in poverty.

    Why is credit card loan sharking not a crime?

    you got me there.

    Why is there no intelligent long range awareness of climate change and the world population explosion?

    Because a century and a half ago, large amounts of people would die because of harsh winters, desease, and in the case of women, chlidbirth. Rich people lived in what we consider poverty.

    Why is Congress owned by Wall Street?

    It's not. It's owned by the people, who don't pay congresspeople enough and don't have the time to research every single issue that comes before them.

    Why is there Fox News?

    because Rupert Murdoch makes money off it.

    Why do we torture and kill in the name of freedom?

    Because they would kill and torture us in the name of something else first.

    Why have we let the wealthy become so powerful?

    Because the rich are always powerful, and when they are overthrown, the popluar leadership becomes wealthy in their stead.

    Why is our power structure so resistant to change?

    Besides because it was DESIGNED that way? Dunno.

    •  Why do we live in such different worlds? (1+ / 0-)
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      fascinating that you and I share a national identity can hold such different views.

      I think that is part of the problem.
      There is a reality split as we become two nations...  the red and the blue.

      If cats could blog.... they wouldn't.

      by crystal eyes on Wed Nov 04, 2009 at 09:20:52 AM PST

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        •  Yes we do (1+ / 0-)
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          Because they would kill and torture us in the name of something else first.

          I could explain, but there are some here who would donut me out of existence.

          I'm the parent of a happily married gay daughter and a conscientious objector.

          but I'm much more interested in sharing about our differences than arguing loudly about how I am right.

          I think a sports fan mentality has overtaken intelligent political discussion, part of the subversion of our system as political entertainment for ratings.

          If cats could blog.... they wouldn't.

          by crystal eyes on Wed Nov 04, 2009 at 09:37:48 AM PST

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          •  I'm thrilled about your daughter, but your son... (0+ / 0-)

            is he in the stockade for desertion? The term "conscientious objector" is a term used by draft boards for exemptions. Has your son somehow been drafted? I received one of the very last draft cards back in the '70s and the draft was officially over before I got it. It's been all-volunteer ever since.

            As to the first answer you quoted, The people I'm talking about objected to our setting foot on Saudi soil because we weren't good enough to do so. I remember the Blackhawk Down incident back in 1993, when they tortured and killed some Soldiers for the crime of feeding the hungry. The World hates us because they owe us. Europe has never forgiven us for the Marshall Plan, for example.

            The reason we are in 'two' wars is that we were forced into them. Iraq III was a consequence of Iraq I (Iraq 2 was on the day Clinton was impeached), and Afghanistan was a consequence of 9/11. I saw the smoke and smelt the burning flesh, although I didn't get there for two days.

            The problems we're facing in the AfPak war is not our fault, It's primarily Pakistan's and they're paying for it big time, but not to us.

            What I notice is that you believe in Utopia and are wondering why we don't live there. Well, generally most war crimes are those that are committed in the name of Utopia. Doing the right thing badly sometimes produces bad results.

            •  I'm the Viet Nam era CO (0+ / 0-)

              and I did my 2 years alternative service in an orderly in a lock up psych ward during the war.  Interesting times.

              "Realism vs utopia" depends on the universe you live in.
              In my world, the only way humanity can survive is to evolve beyond our many outdated primitive mind sets.  "Be fruitful and multiply" is going to kill us all.

              That which has always been is not always a good guide for what needs to be.

              If cats could blog.... they wouldn't.

              by crystal eyes on Wed Nov 04, 2009 at 10:36:34 AM PST

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