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The far-right fascists at who, after the invasion of Iraq, would gleefully advocate treason charges against anyone who "bashed" commander-in-chief George Bush in time of war, seem to think it's okay when the commander-in-chief is a Democrat.  

One low in the right-wing's institutionalization of "I-can-say-anything-I want, but-you-can't" was reached when Bill O'Reilly clearly equated dissent against war with treason in 2005, and attacked Air America:

"[Air America] must know the difference between dissent from the Iraq war and the war on terror and undermining it," and that "any American who undermines that war ... is a traitor...So, all those clowns at the liberal radio network, we could incarcerate them immediately. Will you have that done, please? Send over the FBI and just put them in chains, because they, you know, they're undermining everything and they don't care."

But where is O'Reilly now?  Can anyone imagine him not jumping on similar comments posted on Kos, against Bush, like the following progression of this hate-filled Freerepublic thread regarding the recent Ft. Hood shootings::

Why is anyone surprised?

We already have a DIRTY MOSLEM TRAITOR in the Oval Office.

What’s one more moslem piece of garbage?

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[Quoting a previous posting] **If you are Islamic, you may not serve in our military. Period.**

I'm getting closer to:

If you are Islamic, you may not serve in our military live in this country.


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I’m getting closer to:

If you are Islamic, you may not live.

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It is routine at this site to assert the president is really a Muslim.  Then the commenter crosses into ominous suggestion.  The problem is this kind of invective is read by minds perhaps even more deranged than the poster.  That's why there are clear laws against threatening, even subtly, the person of the president.

These are the people who gleefully trot out the word "haters" against the left, in the kind of Kafka-esque reversals of reality we became accustomed to under George W. Bush, who once invited the DC chapter of his Freerepublic brownshirts to the White House.

Will the double-standard prevail?  Will those who threw people out of Bush rallies for wearing "Out of Iraq" tee-shirts be allowed the kind of speech which is truly virulent and hate-filled, compared to the simple dissent they condemned?  Do your job, FBI.  The direction of this thread posted at Freerepublic, can only be read as one suggesting violence.  The right-wing fascists have bullied, threatened, and shouted down all who disagree with their warped views for long enough.  This time they crossed a line.  The things which squirm and wriggle under rocks like this website are not things which should be ignored.  Pull them by their worm-like tails into the light of day.

FBI crime line: 1-800-CALLFBI (225-5324).  

Originally posted to Sue4theBillofRights on Mon Nov 09, 2009 at 11:44 AM PST.

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  •  Never fear. Fox Security is on it. (5+ / 0-)

    [I]f you say anything untoward, obscene oranything like that, Fox security then will contact your local authorities, and you will be held accountable.

    As God is my witness, I thought turkeys could fly.

    by ticket punch on Mon Nov 09, 2009 at 11:49:05 AM PST

  •  I think this is the domain of the Secret Service. (4+ / 0-)

    "We the People of the United States...." -U.S. Constitution

    by elwior on Mon Nov 09, 2009 at 11:55:10 AM PST

      •  Pretty sure they're already on it. (1+ / 0-)
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        I don't doubt that they're monitoring sites like FreeRepublic for credible threats against the President.

        And they're not like Congress, where more calls will put pressure on them to act.  If they think it's a threat, they'll address it whether or not people tie up their phone lines.

        Call Congress and demand 2 Senators, 1 VOTING Rep, and full home rule for DC citizens. Anything less is un-American.

        by mistersite on Mon Nov 09, 2009 at 12:08:10 PM PST

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      •  call your local police or dial 0 for operator... (2+ / 0-)
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        VClib, elwior

        ...and ask for the number.

        However, the item quoted in this diary may not be sufficient to pass the threshold for a threat to the president.

        It sounds more like blowing-off-steam than a direct threat.  

        However, better to be vigilant than complacent in times like these.  

        •  true it's a minimal threshold, but this kind of (1+ / 0-)
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          talk is completely unacceptable when the president is mentioned repeatedly (and mistakenly) as a "Moslem."  The nuts are out there, and they read this crap.

          •  yes, agreed. (1+ / 0-)
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            This kind of crap is totally unacceptable, even the "blowing off steam" variety.  

            The Secret Service is under an extremely heavy load right now and needs a serious budget and personnel increase.  That's why we should exercise a bit of judgement in determining which cases to report.  

            However, bottom line is, one never knows (and we're not qualified to assess) which of these cases will end up going lone wolf.  

            The quote in this diary is a tough one for a judgement call, that's for sure.   What I would do is keep an eye on the poster, read his/her posting history, and assess the threat potential.  

            But of course the other problem with this crap is that it creates a social climate that gradually shifts the bar in terms of what is and what is not acceptable.  And the more of this language that goes around, the greater the likelihood that the noise will swamp the signal and make it more difficult to detect the one that eventually does show up somewhere armed and planning to do an evil deed.  

            My usual thing for cases of this type is "observe and report only," in other words, do not attempt to communicate with persons-of-interest (POIs), just observe what they do and report anything that appears to suggest criminal activity.

            However there is a case to be made for having a bunch of sleepers on sites such as Freep, who can wake up and chime in at a time like this, doing it from "within character" as "conservatives," to shout down this garbage.   Comments along the lines of "Cut the crap, you sound like a nut and that kind of stuff is giving us a bad name.  The way to deal with Obama is to tie up his agenda in Congress and be ready for 2012.  Racism and bigotry make us look like troglodytes, and vague threats of violence make us look like terrorists.   Now cut it out!"

            I'm of divided mind on this particular case as you can probably guess.  Officially the position is "observe and report," but there is a degree to which this stuff needs to be dealt with culturally by making it unacceptable in the places where it is starting to rear its ugly head.  

  •  I ventured over to Freerepublic... (2+ / 0-)
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    mango, Nada Lemming

    this weekend to see what they had to say about the health care bill. I made it through about 250 comments before I threw up in my hazmat suit. Disgusting as that was, it was nothing compared to the comments! Calls for civil war, secession from the union and the hate expressed for LA Rep Cao was something to see. I sure wouldn't want to be him when the teabaggers get their hands on him.

    Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.

    by reflectionsv37 on Mon Nov 09, 2009 at 11:58:11 AM PST

  •  The FBI won't (0+ / 0-)

    But the Secret Service might.

  •  You know, I'm beginning to believe (2+ / 0-)
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    glitterscale, IreGyre

    that the FBI under Hoover was no different than it is right now.  The only time they act is when it is politically favorable to them.

    The religious fanatics didn't buy the republican party because it was virtuous, they bought it because it was for sale

    by nupstateny on Mon Nov 09, 2009 at 12:25:19 PM PST

  •  And another thing (1+ / 0-)
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    Why do right-wing ratfuckers say "moslem"?  It's a very interesting tell.  As soon as I hear that pronunciation/see that spelling I know immediately what kind of person I'm dealing with.  Is it similar to their insisting on calling the sane political hemisphere the "democrat party"?  I really don't quite get it, other than they perceive it to be disrespectful, so it's de rigeur.

    Where the brook puts out of the roots of the old tree and flows to the meadow

    by peterborocanuck on Mon Nov 09, 2009 at 12:25:36 PM PST

  •  but when they do it it's okay... (0+ / 0-)

    because they are RIGHT!  Just ask them.  Go ahead.  Ask them.  Ask...

    Never walk into a public restroom while breathing through your mouth.

    by quityurkidding on Mon Nov 09, 2009 at 12:25:51 PM PST

  •  Christian and Muslim fanatics both should (0+ / 0-)

    be removed from the military or at least watched very closely.  Religious tolerance for rabid believers has no place in the military.  

    Eat recycled food. It's good for the environment and OK for you.

    by thestructureguy on Mon Nov 09, 2009 at 12:31:47 PM PST

  •  The repugs shouted louder & stopped them!! (0+ / 0-)

    The dems are hiding behind "freedom of speech" and we tolerate the 'treasonous" talk in our midst and in our gatherings.  The repugs moved the offenders out of the front row, and sent them on the way. The repugs did not tolerate "dissenters" in their midst. So, are the dems wrong to allow the idiots in?? Should the dems tolerate more than the repugs?? The crap is done so, because the society is willing to listen and a platform is available. Fox broadcasts all the treasonous behavior in the name of free speech. Actually it is good tv and it allows them to beat up on the president and the dems on the public airwaves. No platform for treason, no audience for the offenders the detractors would be chastaised as fools and ignored.

  •  Due to the high volume of calls during this (0+ / 0-)

    presidency, you may be subject to long hold times. If you'd like to leave a message, one of our agents will return your call as soon as possible.

    "Misery's the river of the world. Everybody Row!" - Tom Waits

    by the fan man on Mon Nov 09, 2009 at 02:49:30 PM PST

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