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Today I received another survey from the national Democrats. The last one was from the DNC and this one is from the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee. Like its predecessor, this survey is supposed to remind me of our shared goals as Democrats and inspire me to donate money to helping elect more "D's" to Congress in 2010 and 2012.

Although my initial reaction was to drop the mailer to the ground, jump up and down on it, tear it to shreds and then throw it away, I instead decided as I did with the survey from the DNC, to enclose a note explaining that because of their performance over the past 11 months that they've controlled the White House and Congress I wouldn't throw water on national Democrats seeking my support if they were on fire.

I don't know about you, but I phone banked, precinct walked, donated money and wrote letters to the editor on behalf of Obama and other Democrats running for office in 2008. If what we got is "change you can believe in", I'd hate to see what "same broken, corrupt system, different party in charge" looks like.  

Originally posted to Carole Mills on Thu Dec 24, 2009 at 01:48 PM PST.

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  •  I don't like the alternative... (4+ / 0-)
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    marina, second gen, Blogvirgin, ban nock

    so I will more than likely donate and canvas. Sorry..but if the Republicans take over the senate, do you really think its going to get any better? Do you want Michelle Bachmann to chair a committee as Gingrich promised? Ewww...sorry. I don't even live in her state but might donate to the Democrat.

    •  You have to be willing to lose (1+ / 0-)
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      in order to win.

      •  We did lose. We lost Reagan's years in office. We (4+ / 0-)
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        Dube, marina, second gen, ban nock

        lost eight years under George W. Bush. Each time we lose they set the country back forty years. When the Dems get in we spend all of the term trying to undo their madness and get back to where we should be.

        I'm not willing to lose again. I will donate, phonebank knock doors and do whatever is necessary to load up the Congress with more Dems. Especially the Senate. My state has two Democratic Senators. Yours doesn't have any. There is plenty of work for you to do.

        Sitting here in my cheerleader uniform, drinking the kool-aid; sharing my thoughts with you. Gimme an O!

        by Blogvirgin on Thu Dec 24, 2009 at 02:09:06 PM PST

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        •  You forget that we have also lost (2+ / 0-)
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          danmac, allenjo

          during the Clinton years as well. The answer is not more bad Dems but more better ones and the culling of those who have proven not to work in our interests. That will be difficult as long as any old mole with a D after their name is considered worthy of our time, money and effort.

          We have seen what that gets us and it really isn't a whole lot  better, it only muddies the brand.

          A Republican is someone who can't enjoy his privileged position unless he is certain that somewhere, someone is in excruciating agony. I Love OCD

          by nippersdad on Thu Dec 24, 2009 at 02:13:05 PM PST

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          •  More "better" Dems? (2+ / 0-)
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            Blogvirgin, ban nock

            Didn't this website rally hard to help get Jim Webb elected?

            50% of something is better than 100% of nothing.

            by second gen on Thu Dec 24, 2009 at 02:17:46 PM PST

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            •  Sure did, ActBlue candidate have been pretty (0+ / 0-)

              disappointing on average. I'm hoping we can bring that average up once we finally manage to figure out what Progressivism actually entails. That in itself would make sorting the wheat from the chaff a lot easier.

              A Republican is someone who can't enjoy his privileged position unless he is certain that somewhere, someone is in excruciating agony. I Love OCD

              by nippersdad on Thu Dec 24, 2009 at 02:49:18 PM PST

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        •  I live in Washington State (3+ / 0-)
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          (my handle is an old one from my college days)

          Patty Murray voted against drug importation that would have lowered drug costs for seniors and the rest of us.

          Patty Murray voted against capping interest rates on credit cards at 15% (check your wallet: if you are paying more than 15% on your credit card, guess who you can send a love letter to?)

          Patty Murray is a third-term Senator, fourth on the caucus leadership team, in a Senate that as we all just saw, did everything it could to keep single payer or a public option from getting passage.

          Come November, I will be voting against Patty Murray. If there is a candidate in the primary, I will vote for that candidate. If there is a credible candidate on the Left, I will vote for that candidate. If there isn't, I will vote for whichever Republican is on the ticket.

          Because those aren't my values.

          •  What about the values of the Republican? (1+ / 0-)
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            I agree with you on everything but that. I have a very difficult time voting for a conservative Democrat and have actually voted for other dems in primaries who probably didn't stand a chance of winning. But unless the Republican candidate is better than the democrat, I am not going to vote for them just to spite the Democrats. You did not add "I will vote for whichever Republican is on the ticket if I can relate to their values."

            I would prefer not to vote at all if both candidates are against what I believe is right.

            •  You have to vote strategically Rian (0+ / 0-)

              Look, from someone like Murray's standpoint, as long as they can build a big warchest (which shouldn't be difficult after the votes she's made on behalf of Big Money), and use their influence within the state party to prevent any credible primary challenge, then they have nothing, precisely because they know that people will always come home in the general.

              So I think we've got to demonstrate that we will go to the hilt.

              And I don't mean to diminish your point in any way; it took me a long time to get to be willing to vote for a Republican just to throw out a Rep--I mean a bad Dem.

              What we really need are 1)credible primary challengers and 2) credible third party challengers.

              But the same argument will always be used "oh, you'll just throw it to the Republicans".

              So if we're serious at all, we literally have to be willing to "throw it to the Republicans".

              Or else we might as well pack up and go home.

  •  They won't like what I will say to them!!! (2+ / 0-)
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    allie123, allenjo

    Never walk into a public restroom while breathing through your mouth.

    by quityurkidding on Thu Dec 24, 2009 at 01:59:36 PM PST

  •  Oh surely now there are a few (1+ / 0-)
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    ahem, fluids, you would provide them with if they were on fire.

    The phrase 'trickle down' springs to mind.

    Those who labour in the earth are the chosen people of God. - Thomas Jefferson

    by Ezekial 23 20 on Thu Dec 24, 2009 at 02:01:43 PM PST

  •  I called both senators yesterday (0+ / 0-)

    Left a message for the staffers.

    Thanked all of them for staying in DC so long into the holidays to make HCR happen. I said I know it's probably hard to be away from freinds and family, (and a bunch of fresh powder back here) but that they were realy helping out me and my family by passing HCR, and I thanked them again and wished em a Merry Christmas.

    One of the staffers told me I'd just cancelled out the bad vibes of 3 hrs worth of screamers.

    "Don't fall or we both go" Derek Hersey

    by ban nock on Thu Dec 24, 2009 at 02:28:13 PM PST

  •  in my universe, I notice a lot of difference (1+ / 0-)
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    between George W Bush and Barack Obama.  

    You shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

    by TX Dem 50 on Thu Dec 24, 2009 at 02:31:07 PM PST

    •  Clarify. Explain. (1+ / 0-)
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      Yeah, Obama is smart and I like him. But where's the "change we can believe in"? I'm not seeing it. He hasn't done enough to retain my support.

      When a government violates the unalienable rights of the people, it loses its legitimacy.

      by Rayk on Thu Dec 24, 2009 at 02:32:44 PM PST

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      •  we should alert FOX NEWS (0+ / 0-)

        apparently, the diarist has found out that there is no difference between Obama and bush, so the tea baggers can just relax and FOX news can go back to covering the balloon boy. Hear that Glenn Beck, nothing to see here, move along...

        (To expound, uh, health insurance reform that includes hundreds of billions of subsidies to poor and middle income people, moving us out of Iraq, working with other nations on climate control, the dialogue with other nations, a Nobel prize, stem cell research policy unfettered by religous overtones, fewer right-wing crazies in the govt.  Next year I will see something on DADT.  Yes, I notice CHANGE I CAN BELIEVE IN!)

        You shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

        by TX Dem 50 on Thu Dec 24, 2009 at 02:41:13 PM PST

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        •  I'm glad that you see (2+ / 0-)
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          nampa45, allenjo

          change you can believe in, but you must be looking at a different set of accomplishments. We have a massive Senate healthcare bill, that has no reform in it whatsoever, no costs control and a mandate that requires 30,000,000 Americans to buy health insurance from the insurance industry. There are some good things in the bill, but it isn't even close to what the President campaigned on (although he's now claiming he never campaigned on the idea of a public option - - what is it with these guys, do they not understand how video cameras work???? We may be slowly remvoing troops from Iraq, but we're beefing them up in Afghanistan with almost the identical rationalizations the Bush administration used to justify Iraq (again, video cameras tell the story). Guantanimo is still open, over 500 soldiers have been driven out of the military under don't ask, don't tell since Obama took office, his bailouts of the banking and financial institutions (which I supported) turn out not to have any meaningful reform or regulations attached to the massive giveaway to prevent financial ruin from happening again, he's sent his DOJ to court to defend the secretive anti-civil rights practices of the Bush administration, and the Democratic congress with President Obama's blessing has added more restrictions to a woman's right to choose than Republicans ever hoped to accomplish. I could go on, but I'm sure you see where I'm headed. Everything you mentioned in your post, Obama has spoken eloquently about, but I've yet to see the actions from either him or Congress backing up his soaring rhetoric.

          •  change (0+ / 0-)

            is a process, not a single event. Progress has been made on all of the issues you mention.  Obama has been in office 11 months -- you may have set your goals a tad high if after 11 months, to quote you: "i wouldn't throw water on national Democrats seeking my support if they were on fire."  

            You shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

            by TX Dem 50 on Thu Dec 24, 2009 at 07:58:09 PM PST

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            •  Some of us see weak bills and "compromise" (0+ / 0-)

              that's NOT change we can believe in.

              Promising to do something is not the same as doing it.

              We're still occupying two countries, escalating a war (NOT ending it), handing zillions of tax dollars to health insurance companies (while possibly providing SOME healthcare for those who can't afford it. Yay!), running Gitmo, and many other things that should have CHANGED after Bush was gone, and the Dems got majorities in both houses of Congress.

              No. Obama = nice guy, but not great president.

              When a government violates the unalienable rights of the people, it loses its legitimacy.

              by Rayk on Fri Dec 25, 2009 at 02:36:33 PM PST

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  •  I give money to the ACLU... (2+ / 0-)
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    they CAN be depended on.

    When a government violates the unalienable rights of the people, it loses its legitimacy.

    by Rayk on Thu Dec 24, 2009 at 02:31:38 PM PST

  •  good post (1+ / 0-)
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    THEY need to hear from us. IMO this is a good start, and the alternative is just failure to get anything.

  •  My HOPE is turning to HOPELESSNESS (2+ / 0-)
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    rubine, allenjo

    There will only be change when those unaffected are as outraged as those who are.

    by quidam56 on Thu Dec 24, 2009 at 02:45:34 PM PST

  •  I don't mind that we didn't get all that we hoped (0+ / 0-)

    for, but I do mind being shoved aside and referred to as the fringe.

    I've dumped every request for donations for the last 6 months.  I use ActBlue.

    The religious fanatics didn't buy the republican party because it was virtuous, they bought it because it was for sale

    by nupstateny on Thu Dec 24, 2009 at 03:31:45 PM PST

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