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Harry Reid is guilty of having been alive during a time when the word "negro" was in common use.  He is also guilty of being bone-headed.  I know the man isn't a racist given his life's work and I'm a firm believer that all people are imperfect, but let's just level hereL Harry Reid needs to, at the very least, step down as the Majority Leader in the U.S. Senate.

The biggest reason for this is that he always kind of sucked at being the Majority Leader.  I don't know about you, but I'd prefer a Majority Leader Schumer or even Durbin over Harry Reid.

Another reason is because he'll never quite live this one down.  Seriously.  Again, he's obviously not a racist- this just speaks to how inarticulate he can be.  See; the Iraq War is "lost".

Another reason is because he looks to be getting absolutely killed in Nevada right now.  How the heck is he going to come back and win in November?  Granted, if he is stepping down as Majority Leader that might not help him win in November either.  But that's if Reid can even possibly win.  I don't think he can, especially after bone-headed comments like that.  Then again, I also don't know if there's another Democrat that could have a serious chance of winning statewide in Nevada this year.

So there's my half a cent.  What's yours?

Originally posted to Setrak on Sun Jan 10, 2010 at 05:58 PM PST.

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  •  Take your half cent back (12+ / 0-)

    Please.

    I am that gadfly which God has attached to the state, and all day long and in all places...arousing and persuading and reproaching you.-Socrates

    by The Navigator on Sun Jan 10, 2010 at 06:05:22 PM PST

  •  He should step down, but not for this kerfuffle. (11+ / 0-)

    We just need a stronger person to heard Democratic cats.

  •  after HRC and CAP'n'trade have passed the senate (8+ / 0-)

    then you can have him for dinner or lunch ...if you want ..but don't ape the republicans because the only thing they are after is to derail the process.

  •  I am not entertaining Republican smear books (22+ / 0-)

    Enough said.

    Sad, so sad that we are letting Halperin unleash this book that is designed to do NOTHING but smear Democrats and as many as possible.

    If you have a subscription to TIME, cancel it.

    Watching CNN, turn it off.

    If we as a community cannot launch cooridinated and focussed attacks on our media enemies, then we fail.

    Media Matters and Jason Linkings won't be around forever.

    And fuck you Halperin, this is personal for me.
    I can't wait till we catch you plagarizing, lying or doing something dirty on tape.

    •  IF it were a smear, (4+ / 0-)

      Harry Reid would have fought it.  And he'd probably have won the Reid vs. Halperin fight, too.  Instead he confirmed that he did say what is being reported.

      Give me a break, to hell with Firedoglake.

      by Setrak on Sun Jan 10, 2010 at 06:09:23 PM PST

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      •  And so what? (1+ / 0-)
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        bronte17

        We didn't ask for Biden to resign over racially insensitive remarks over the same man?

        Show some backbone, you think Reid is a racist?

      •  I Want To Say A Few Things About This: (6+ / 0-)
        The President has forgiven it.
        It's much too soon to do anything rash or harmful to the legislative agenda.
        This issue only achieves hype because of the routine pretense that bigotry and racism, discrimination, injustice, institutionalized unfairness and centuries of prejudice aren't still warping the lives and feelings of a whole lot of Americans.
        I have hammered Harry Reid. But not lately. I concluded, after watching fairly intently for the past 2 years, that the senate and its string pullers are content to have Sen Reid front for them. I don't think the disappointments are anything more or less than what the powers want.
        Yes, his remarks are, at best, awkward, embarrassing, uncultured, suspicious, and undignified.
        But the damage is to himself, mostly.
        Lyndon Johnson was capable of acting better than his preset notions when it mattered most.
        Harry Reid should limp along a little farther down the road and try to prove there's better in him, too.
        This was and is the president who talked about beginning a national dialogue on race. So, we can have some now and, with a little faith and good will, survive it well and heal and grow up some together.
        I'm speaking from my heart. I don't believe it will work well for the country if Reid goes the way of Al Campanis or Jimmy The Greek. People do have unpleasant feelings which they occasionally articulate. That is not wrong. And not surprising. We're just too prissy and publicly phony and suspicious and angry and sometimes manipulatively kneejerk shallow to overcome the held over attitudes of generations still struggling in us.
        I'm not even saying that there aren't good arguments for Reid to step off. But i want to be very and wisely careful about jumping away every time the ugly shadows of our miserable history shroud the light of reason. And Harry might well apologize in such a way that his humility could bring us forward. I think that might be best.
    •  What is your problem? (2+ / 0-)
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      rock the ground, FistJab

      Can you point to anything that's been reported from the book that isn't true?

      I am that gadfly which God has attached to the state, and all day long and in all places...arousing and persuading and reproaching you.-Socrates

      by The Navigator on Sun Jan 10, 2010 at 06:09:39 PM PST

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      •  My problem is I am a Democrat, and I hate GOP (1+ / 0-)
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        PinHole

        So what?

        Are you not a partisan?

        Sorry, after seeing my party get smeared, then cry and ask when the GOP was done in 2004,  not letting that happen again.

        Even if I have to burn the house down.

        I would rather have no Democratic party, then one that is mocked and rolled over.

        •  Odd (3+ / 0-)
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          coffeetalk, tnproud2b, cap76

          The book could not have been written without the cooperation of democratic sources, who were willing to talk to the authors.  If the book contains falsehoods, fine, attack it.    But I have no problem with someone writing a book that contains unflattering, but true, information about our elected officials.  They should be held accountable.

          I am that gadfly which God has attached to the state, and all day long and in all places...arousing and persuading and reproaching you.-Socrates

          by The Navigator on Sun Jan 10, 2010 at 06:17:57 PM PST

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          •  We will see, till then go to Politico and HP and (0+ / 0-)

            see how they are cheaply making select excerpts that trash Democrats all into single stories.

            They are saying that Biden was fully cut from the campaign, that Obama practialy hates him.

            Another exert makes it seem that Clinton's compliment on Obama is also a racist attack.

            Until further vindication, I will look at this book based on it's author, a long time Republican media hack.

            Also as far as Dem sources, I never trust that.

            According to David Plouffe, who I Still have great respect for, in his book he LIES that Evan Bayh was on the short list.
            The fact that he would keep up that lie a year later amazes me.
            If the Obama campaign actually had him on that list, well then Obama better get a new election team for 2012.

            •  How do you know any of this? (1+ / 0-)
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              FistJab

              And I hope the authors of this book have better editors than you do.

              I am that gadfly which God has attached to the state, and all day long and in all places...arousing and persuading and reproaching you.-Socrates

              by The Navigator on Sun Jan 10, 2010 at 06:30:07 PM PST

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              •  Because I read the NEWS, I follow this every day (0+ / 0-)

                for years.
                I thought everyone did.

                I can't beleive you are almost backing a piece of shit like Halperin over a fellow Kossack.

                Anyone who would think, for a second that BARACK OBAMA would have EVAN BAYH even 1000 feet close to his admin is insane.
                And if Plouffe was serious, he should give up on Demcoratic politics.

                If you are still scratching your head, I suggest googling Evan Bayh's career and find out who created him, who mentored him, and who funded him into politics.
                Trust me, it was people that wanted Obama to lose, why on earth would you want your own enemy as your VP?

                It would have been as stupid as when the DNC picked Lieberman for Gore.

                •  You mean (3+ / 0-)
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                  wu ming, crose, FistJab

                  Anyone who would think, for a second that BARACK OBAMA would have EVAN BAYH even 1000 feet close to his admin is insane.

                  ....the same Obama who selected Hillary Clinton as his VP, and Rick Warren do to the invocation at his inauguration? Or Time Geitner?

                  And I'm not "backing" Halperin.  I haven't even read the book....either have you.

                  I am that gadfly which God has attached to the state, and all day long and in all places...arousing and persuading and reproaching you.-Socrates

                  by The Navigator on Sun Jan 10, 2010 at 06:46:35 PM PST

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                •  What makes you think Plouffe is a liar (0+ / 0-)

                  about something like whether Bayh was on Obama's list of possible running mates?  The fact that you don't like Bayh or you don't think he's progressive enough?  That doesn't make Plouffe a liar.

            •  Also (2+ / 0-)
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              tnproud2b, FistJab

              Until further vindication, I will look at this book based on it's author, a long time Republican media hack.

              Mark Halperin is  a "long time Republican media hack".  What, are you just making this up as you go?

              And what does "until further vindication" mean anyway?

              I am that gadfly which God has attached to the state, and all day long and in all places...arousing and persuading and reproaching you.-Socrates

              by The Navigator on Sun Jan 10, 2010 at 06:32:33 PM PST

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            •  why in heaven's name do you think Plouffe (4+ / 0-)

              was lying about that? That's absurd. What does he have to gain from lying about that? Good grief.

              Obama's campaign was about bringing change to the country. His presidency is about defining what that change means and how to achieve it.

              by marabout40 on Sun Jan 10, 2010 at 06:45:04 PM PST

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              •  Man, I give up, I guess this site fails at inside (0+ / 0-)

                baseball.
                When they leaked Bayh as a VP pick, it was assumed then as lie so that Bayh wouldn't call out sick when it came time to get Indiana to deliver.
                Bayh was vehemently anti Obama, proven when he threatened his state delegates not to endorse, even though he already had.

                The only gain I could think Plouffe would think was there, was to again placate Bayh from not further smearing the party or attacking the president.
                Don't forget too that in December 2008, Bayh led the pack to create a NEW Blue Dog coalition in the Sentate (which Rachel Maddow smeared him out of)
                Maybe he owed a favor to Al From.

                Trust me, Evan Bayh is a moron, can barely form a sentence and the least loyal of democrats.

                Ask him if he will ever go on the Rachel Maddow show again?

                Picking Evan Bayh in 2008 would have been as smart as picking Joe Lieberman (sans McCain endorsement)

            •  umm in plouffes book bayh was on the short list (2+ / 0-)
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              renzo capetti, FistJab

              the final list of 3.

              He and Ax went to meet with him, kaine and biden privately and reported back to Obama putting in his words "the thumb on the scale" for Biden.

              LGF: We should make a distinction between republicans,conservatives,and fucking lunatics.(as well as democrats,liberals,and fucking moonbats)

              by vc2 on Sun Jan 10, 2010 at 06:50:51 PM PST

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              •  Maybe they really did it, maybe it was just a (0+ / 0-)

                show.

                But I refuse to believe he was a real pick.

                If he was, let us make sure we NEVER allow the VP Steering committee or whatever they called themselves the ability to work at that level again for the party.

                I repeat my meme, I don't see the leap in logic in choosing Bayh over Lieberman.

                •  How does that make Plouffe a liar? (4+ / 0-)
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                  tnproud2b, The Navigator, FistJab, cap76

                  We get it -- you don't like Bayh.  

                  But Plouffe -- who is certainly in a position to know -- says he was one of the finalists for Obama's VP, given serious consideration.

                  What proof do you have that Plouffe is a liar?

                  •  Ok, maybe Plouffe didn't lie, but he is (0+ / 0-)

                    disingenious to say that Bayh was a "real" pick.

                    Just as real as Obama picking a republican.

                    Its not that I don't like Bayh, my personal feelings for him have nothing to do with the facts.

                    Bayh is as loyal as lieberman, as corrupt as Lieberman.

                    Wait stop it right there, you know how Bayh's wife got a job at Wellpoint with no experience as soon as her husband got elected?

                    Again if the VP commission was serious, then the Democratic party has some major problems, and we better be vigilant such incompetence never happens again.

                    TIll then read this classic:
                    http://www.theatlantic.com/...

                    and this detailing the corruption of Bayh and his wife:
                    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...

                    In the end, I think the whisper campaign and the bringing of Bayh for interview was just a favor, or an attempt to settle down our enemies at the DLC.
                    We needed to do a solid for their loser titicular head.
                    Maybe they want Bayh to replace Al From when he retires and they need him to look good.

                    •  earth to george (1+ / 0-)
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                      Eiron

                      the democratic party has major problems, and useless DLC hacks like bayh and lieberman are at the very vital center of the DC party establishment, and very much form the majority of obama's cabinet and advisors.

                      it's not pretty, but let's stop pretending like the past two decades didn't happen.

                      surf putah, your friendly neighborhood central valley samizdat

                      by wu ming on Mon Jan 11, 2010 at 04:07:09 AM PST

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        •  "Smear" implies spreading a story that is not (1+ / 0-)
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          FistJab

          true.  Reid admitted that the story about what he said was true by apologizing for what he said.  

          Printing an unflattering story that is true does not, in my view, constitute a "smear."  But your definition may vary.  

    •  Also; (3+ / 0-)
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      coffeetalk, George Pirpiris, FistJab

      this book is going to smear plenty of Republicans, too.

      Give me a break, to hell with Firedoglake.

      by Setrak on Sun Jan 10, 2010 at 06:11:03 PM PST

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    •  Keep playing ostrich ... nt (0+ / 0-)
    •  Joe Klein Redux (1+ / 0-)
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      George Pirpiris

      Same old smear tactics as last time.

      I'm from the Democratic wing of the Democratic Party...

      by Betty Pinson on Sun Jan 10, 2010 at 06:59:43 PM PST

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  •  He's ineffective (9+ / 0-)

    But he shouldn't leave over this.  That would just be caving in to unreasonable demands.  I mean give me a break.  

    The best apology against false accusers is silence and sufferance, and honest deeds set against dishonest words

    by Alec82 on Sun Jan 10, 2010 at 06:08:58 PM PST

    •  He's going to be defeated in November (2+ / 0-)
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      tnproud2b, FistJab

      so who cares whether he steps down or not.  A bag of dog crap would be a more effective majority leader, so I'm actually looking forward to seeing Reid defeated.  

      Good riddance.

      No Welfare for insurance executives -- KILL THE BILL.

      by simca on Sun Jan 10, 2010 at 06:37:40 PM PST

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      •  He won't be defeated n/t (1+ / 0-)
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        Tailspinterry
        •  he wont be defeated (4+ / 0-)
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          simca, Eiron, tnproud2b, FistJab

          I live here in nevada and i will tell you that Harry Reid is headed for an ass kicking in Nov. Unless you live here you have no idea how disliked he is, alot of my Dem. friends will not vote for this man. I cant wait to see him defeated he is an embarresment to the good people of NV.

          •  I do live here in Nevada (2+ / 0-)
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            askew, Tailspinterry

            And the Dems I know really like the guy.  So we're obviously not hanging out with the same people! haha

            I had the pleasure of hearing him speak the other day at UNLV on health care reform and the place was packed with supporters.  So he's not out of this race in the least.  And by the way, would your friends really prefer somebody like Danny Tarkanian?  Really?  I think I'll pass on that one.  We already have one crappy Republican senator...let's not have another please.

            And one more thing...I went out canvassing for the Nevada State Democratic Party about 2 months ago and people seemed okay with him.  They had more criticism for others in the state instead of him.  

            •  Dream on, my friend. (0+ / 0-)

              Harry is toast.  Good riddance.

              No Welfare for insurance executives -- KILL THE BILL.

              by simca on Mon Jan 11, 2010 at 09:08:42 AM PST

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              •  So all of my Dem friends opinions are invalid... (1+ / 0-)
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                askew

                While your Dem friends opinions are the final verdict?

                •  It's just common sense (0+ / 0-)

                  Reid has alienated his base with his weak performance and out-and-out complicity with the Repukes to the point where a large chunk of his base is rooting hard for him to lose.  These people will be staying home or even voting for his Republican opponent.

                  I don't live in Nevada, but if I did, I would be among those voting Republican -- Reid is such a disaster as Majority Leader that it is worth losing a seat to the Repukes as long as it topples him from the ML seat.  

                  No Welfare for insurance executives -- KILL THE BILL.

                  by simca on Mon Jan 11, 2010 at 03:09:17 PM PST

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      •  I would prefer… (0+ / 0-)

        …that if Harry is defeated by anyone that it is in a primary from the left several months before November.

        Teh stoopidTM, it hurts. Buy smart, union-printed, USA-made, signs, stickers, swag for everyone: DemSign.com

        by DemSign on Sun Jan 10, 2010 at 08:35:14 PM PST

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        •  Dem party is too weak in NV (0+ / 0-)

          and too controlled by Harry.  

          Just sit back and watch the show -- Harry is going down in November.  His fate is sealed.  And I, for one, am 100% fine with that.

          No Welfare for insurance executives -- KILL THE BILL.

          by simca on Mon Jan 11, 2010 at 09:07:58 AM PST

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  •  While I think she's doing a fine job at State... (0+ / 0-)

    ...there's a part of me that would have preferred that Clinton remain in the Senate, as I think she'd have made a good majority leader.

    But I don't see Reid stepping down minus some serious pressure from his Democratic colleagues.

    Rammer jammer, yellowhammer, Give 'em hell, Alabama!!!

    by turnover on Sun Jan 10, 2010 at 06:09:19 PM PST

    •  Oh, and: (4+ / 0-)
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      homogenius, glendaw271, ETF, renzo capetti

      I think it'd be a huge political error for this to happen now.

      Rammer jammer, yellowhammer, Give 'em hell, Alabama!!!

      by turnover on Sun Jan 10, 2010 at 06:10:46 PM PST

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    •  I'm not so sure about that. (1+ / 0-)
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      vc2

      I love Hillary right where she is. I voted for her in the primary, but I think she's in the right place and I think Obama's in the right place, even though he pisses me off sometimes.

      I think she did a great job as a freshman-and-a-half Senator, but I don't think she was ready to enter the leadership yet. That takes time.

      I don't want Reid to step down over this. I wish he was next in seniority to become Pres. Pro Tem when Byrd retires. Byrd should have done a Strom Thurmond and accepted "Pres. Pro Tem Emeritus" so Teddy could have served as Pres Pro Tem.

      But I'm not sure that Durbin is that much better.

      Anyways, YMMV.

      "Jane, you ignorant slut." --Dan Aykroyd, Saturday Night Live

      by homogenius on Sun Jan 10, 2010 at 06:14:40 PM PST

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  •  Oh yeah--let's enable the rethugs. (16+ / 0-)

    Righto--let's all jump to their tune.

    Can we not have an honest discussion about this?

    C'mon--this is an insult to Obama. It's an insult to every African-American who has had to fight an uphill battle to succeed and be better, smarter, more disciplined, more scandal-free, and yes, neater, better groomed and dressed, and more articulate than their white peers. And it's an insult to all the other people of color and non-European=American origin, and women, and LGBT people, and people with disabilities and everyone else who was not a male, hetero, abled WASP!

    Let's cut the shit, people. Reid was making a careless comment about the state of the American electorate. NOT about Obama. NOT about what he, personally, believed.

    Do you really want to endorse the false equivalency between Harry Reid acknowledging the unfair disadvantage that Obama faced and Trent Lott praising the legendary segregationist Strom Thurmond who fought against black civil rights even as he fathered a daughter through an affair with a black woman?

    I'll be the first to say that Harry Reid is not an effective Majority Leader. But do you really want to buy into the Republicans' bullshit?

    "Jane, you ignorant slut." --Dan Aykroyd, Saturday Night Live

    by homogenius on Sun Jan 10, 2010 at 06:09:58 PM PST

  •  If Reid loses his Senate race... (4+ / 0-)

    we probably get better leadership in the Senate.  And if he manages to win, then we get to see Republicans gnashing their teeth and pulling out their hair.  Win, win.

    I don't think he'll win, though.  It may be too early to call, but I don't see how Harry revives his abysmal poll numbers by November.

  •  Another example of how sad Establishment Dems are (0+ / 0-)

    weak and afraid of the MSM, nothing ever changes.
    Halperin obviously had this book written for a long time.
    There "bad" quotes that smear Biden, Obama, Clinton, etc.

    Its obvious this a planned political attack book.

    The fact the DNC is not attacking the book's credibility speaks volumes.
    I guess Dem's liked the swiftboat attacks.
    We love having the crap kicked out of us.

    And I am sure Rahm will make sure Halperin has as much access to the WH as possible.
    There is no way otherwise, Rahm backed down from Fox, he will def back down from CNN and ABC.

    Also speaking of the boy wonder, he will be doing an interview tommorow morning.

    Guess what show?  His Best Buddies new show on a 9am, hosted by Chuck Todd and Savannah Guthrie.

    •  RAHM EMANUEL!!! (11+ / 0-)

      Booga, booga, booga!

      Rahmbo will steal your children and suck their blood. He's coming for YOOOOOOUUUUUUU!!!

      Meh.

      "Jane, you ignorant slut." --Dan Aykroyd, Saturday Night Live

      by homogenius on Sun Jan 10, 2010 at 06:26:13 PM PST

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      •  I think it comforts people... (7+ / 0-)

        ...to pin the flaws on Rahm as opposed to President Obama.  

        The best apology against false accusers is silence and sufferance, and honest deeds set against dishonest words

        by Alec82 on Sun Jan 10, 2010 at 06:29:58 PM PST

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        •  I think it's silly and unrealistic scapegoating.. (6+ / 0-)

          and in many cases it is the result of anti-Semitism and racism towards the President.

          And I finished this letter with unshakable faith that the dream will be fulfilled for this generation, and preserved and enlarged for generations to come.

          by Elise on Sun Jan 10, 2010 at 06:39:26 PM PST

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          •  No, Rahm is the hero for all the pro DLC'ers on (0+ / 0-)

            this site.

            Its sad to see this contigent building up on here.

            So you are calling me an anti semite and a racist for hating incompetence in the Democratic party.

            FAIL

            •  Rahm has nothing to do with the DLC... (4+ / 0-)
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              askew, renzo capetti, vc2, littlebird33

              and I'm not pro-DLC. It's sad to see people attack him and scapegoat him on every issue. He's at fault sometimes, sure, but not for every little thing.

              And I finished this letter with unshakable faith that the dream will be fulfilled for this generation, and preserved and enlarged for generations to come.

              by Elise on Sun Jan 10, 2010 at 06:58:57 PM PST

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              •  Ok in this case, and why I bring him up is he (0+ / 0-)

                LOVES the inside the Beltway MSM.

                He hates any kind of media that is on the side of truth that isn't framed or created by him.

                Maybe if once in his life Rahm addressed the party base, be it an OFA broadcast, a DNC broadcast, an appearance at NN09 would have been nice, anything.

                But no,  at least tommorow he will be the FIRST guest on Chris Todd's brand spanking new show :D

                And sadly, you are right, in this capacity I have lost faith in the president to hire the right people.

                I am sure Dean would love to be the second COS, or return to the DNC.

                And I don't mention Dean because I am a "deniac"
                I mention Dean because I don't know anyone else in the establishment, who has been elected, run campaigns etc, that is as credible as him.
                So I use him more as an example.

                And Elise, Rahm has nothing to do with the DLC?

                Really.

                Explain why he refused to speak at NN09 and America's Future Now (held in DC)
                but could speak 2 weeks later (after America's Future Now) in DC to the DLC.

                Please don't ever say he is not DLC:

              •  nothing to do with the DLC? (0+ / 0-)

                just "co-chair of the DLC's Bi-Partisan Congressional Debate Series, and co-author, with DLC President Bruce Reed, of The Plan: Big Ideas for America, as White House chief of staff."

                rahm got his start in the proudly DLC clinton admin, and has been intimately involved with the DLC ever since, and generally pushed their policy goals, for his entire career.

                this is hardly a secret.

                surf putah, your friendly neighborhood central valley samizdat

                by wu ming on Mon Jan 11, 2010 at 04:24:41 AM PST

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            •  For fuck's sake (4+ / 0-)
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              bronte17, Alec82, cap76, littlebird33

              OK, I'll spell it out for you.  Your position is, seemingly, that Rahm is some loose cannon who the President cannot control who is undermining the President's agenda.

              The position that I hold, and that I believe that most of your interlocutors hold, is that Rahm is the President's hatchet man, doing exactly what the President wants him to do and making himself a lightening rod for the criticism that the President, who has to run for reelection in three years.  From that perspective, Rahm is not a meaningful issue - fire him, and President Obama will replace him with someone just like him.  Because the President is doing what he wants to do.

              The urge to save humanity is almost always a false face for the urge to rule it. ~ H.L. Mencken

              by Jay Elias on Sun Jan 10, 2010 at 07:01:40 PM PST

              [ Parent ]

              •  You are right on my position (0+ / 0-)

                I do think Rahm is a loose canon, I do think he leaked without permission on HCR and the effort to kill the career of Greg Craig as a form of political revenge.

                When Obama picked Rahm, unlike others here I APPLAUDED it.

                Why, because unlike most here I am an immoral partisan.

                I knew Rahm hated Obama and the DNC that rode him into office, but at the end, I figured he would be loyal to his boss, as the results would come back to him.

                I dunno, call me crazy, hatchet man for Obama or not, I don't think Rahm gives a shit about holding onto power in 2010, or 2012, especially if he is gone.

                Good or Bad, Karl Rove can rightfully take alot of credit for Bush's 2004 victory.

                Call me crazy, but I don't think Rahm will reap the partisan legacy for our side, as Rove did for his side.

              •  Eh. (0+ / 0-)

                Sure that's true.

                But that doesn't in any way deny that Rahm also influences Obama.  It's never a one-way deal with that kind of power.

                This is someone who always has Obama's ear.

                Do you think he's so stupid that he doesn't know how to use that power, that incredible level of access, to persuade to his own advantage?

                •  I think Obama wants to be influenced by Rahm (0+ / 0-)

                  Sure, he has a voice on things.  It seems to me that it is obviously a voice that Obama seeks out.  Chief of Staff is the job where you put the guy you want closest.

                  It just strikes me as rather absurd to think that Obama is not obviously choosing to be influenced by Rahm.

                  The urge to save humanity is almost always a false face for the urge to rule it. ~ H.L. Mencken

                  by Jay Elias on Sun Jan 10, 2010 at 08:30:41 PM PST

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                  •  So? (0+ / 0-)

                    Whether he wants it or not, he is being influenced by Rahm, and that's where a lot of our objections come in.

                    As far as what he wants, I don't know Obama personally so I have no idea what he wants.  I think he plays his cards very close to the chest.  But that's just me, maybe I'm thick.

                    Fact is, Rahm has a lot of power and there can be distinctions drawn between what he does and what Obama does.

                    •  I don't know how much they can (0+ / 0-)

                      It is Obama's administration.  I see no reason to believe that it doesn't operate how he wants it to.

                      The urge to save humanity is almost always a false face for the urge to rule it. ~ H.L. Mencken

                      by Jay Elias on Sun Jan 10, 2010 at 09:23:13 PM PST

                      [ Parent ]

                  •  P.S. (1+ / 0-)
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                    Having said that, I agree with Alec82 that there are some folks who use blaming Rahm as a way to avoid blaming Obama.

                    But there are others who blame Rahm for his own actions.

                    •  Sure... (1+ / 0-)
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                      ...I just don't see a lot of Rahm's actions as being without the explicit consent of the President.

                      They are the White House.  I don't believe one word Rahm says gets out without their intending it to.

                      The urge to save humanity is almost always a false face for the urge to rule it. ~ H.L. Mencken

                      by Jay Elias on Sun Jan 10, 2010 at 09:24:09 PM PST

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                    •  I agree, I did that for a long time over the (1+ / 0-)
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                      summer, as the leaks "derailing" healthcare came out, the leak that the President didn't want it, etc.

                      The attacks on Greg Craig, the attack on HCAN, the attack on etc.

                      At the end of the day, I am not delusional, Obama didn't fire him for any of that, and when Rahm does leave/get fired, he won't say a word.

                      The better question I think is, if Obama hired Dean for COS, would Dean have done all the same things?
                      I doubt it.

                      I do believe at the bottom of my heart, Rahm has a twisted agenda and one that threatens the President's and the parties legacy.
                      And I don't promote legacy for the sake of legacy, more as a reflection on good policy.

                      I want 80 years from now for our grandkids or great ore great great to look back and have a cool name for our era in history, and talk about the courage it took to pass HCR (hopefully) and financial reform (really hoping) and the environment (hahahahaha yea that will happen :D)

                      So to close, I won't use Rahm as an excuse, Obama made his decision and he is keeping his "decision" at least another 6 months
                      http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...

          •  nice trolling there, elise n/t (0+ / 0-)

            surf putah, your friendly neighborhood central valley samizdat

            by wu ming on Mon Jan 11, 2010 at 04:11:47 AM PST

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        •  Obama's flaw was hiring Rahm (0+ / 0-)

          When someone fails at their job to that degree.

          When they leak to exact revenge or a political score on another Democrat, I would fire them.

          If Obama hired Mark Penn, would you say the same?

          Looking at it now, Mark may have done a better job then Rahm, I guess we will never know.

          •  Did Mark Penn win us a majority in Congress? (2+ / 0-)
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            Last I checked...no.

            And I finished this letter with unshakable faith that the dream will be fulfilled for this generation, and preserved and enlarged for generations to come.

            by Elise on Sun Jan 10, 2010 at 07:01:54 PM PST

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            •  Did Rahm do that? (0+ / 0-)

              No I remember him and Carville smearing Howard Dean and calling for him to resign for not winning enough seats with the DLC strategy.

              Honestly, tell me, from a strategist point of view, what makes Rahm better then Penn, cause last I read they still use the same playbook.

              Sorry, I just don't trust "democrats" that threaten (HCAN) or smear (Greg Craig) other Democrats for their own gain.

              Don't blame me for having standards on the people that represent and strategize for us.

              I supported Obama early on as it seemed his nomination would move the trash out of our party and make the Dems stand up to the media and GOP once and for all, how naive I was.

              •  Yes, Rahm did that. (2+ / 0-)
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                As Chair of the DCCC he recruited and worked to help win a bigger majority in Congress. Howard Dean's 50 State strategy actually worked hand in hand with that to make that happen.

                And I finished this letter with unshakable faith that the dream will be fulfilled for this generation, and preserved and enlarged for generations to come.

                by Elise on Sun Jan 10, 2010 at 07:22:53 PM PST

                [ Parent ]

                •  Rahm is now a hero to us? (0+ / 0-)

                  He was 50% of the 2006 win?  DLC tactics won us the house?
                  Man. this site is going to shit.

                  And I believe you are sane and rational, maybe trying to make the best of a bad situation.
                  But just look at who is reccing you.

                  I just don't see how he and Penn from a strategist perspective line up as different people.

                  And you say Rahm isn't a member of the DLC, why is it then that is the ONLY special interest group he addressed in 2009.
                  Not the AFL-CIO, not NN, not AFN, nothing.

                  To the people that rec "pro rahm comments" please reconcile how Rahm would not dare to address a panel, or the closing or opening events of Netroots Nation.
                  He is a Democrat right?
                  He wants Dems elected right?

        •  You think? (1+ / 0-)
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          Alec82

          I think you know.

          The urge to save humanity is almost always a false face for the urge to rule it. ~ H.L. Mencken

          by Jay Elias on Sun Jan 10, 2010 at 06:52:23 PM PST

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        •  There are facts and there are the higher "gut" (1+ / 0-)
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          Alec82
          facts of faith. You are dealing in facts. They are dealing in the gut facts of faith. You are not going to convince them because all your facts serve their gut facts:

          http://www.docudharma.com/...

        •  The above is about being awake (2+ / 0-)
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          Nightprowlkitty, Alec82

          We had this conversation before. I think I have become more awake about the party over last few months. The problem was never Bush. It is this country.

          You should read the diary. It is a bit new age, but it actually capture the meta fight that's happening in the party. If you prefer, the battle is between an emerging faith based community that grew up during Bush due to their primarily political interaction growing out of this decade, and those who are reality based because they require empiricism. These faith based voters are found in every quadrant of politics where Democratic or Republican.

      •  Im sure you support Halperin's book (0+ / 0-)

        And Im sure you will support Rahm as he allows Halperin access to the WH.

        Why are you still on this site.
        You obviously need to go to the site the DLC funds.

        Also now you are the in house Rahm defender, please answer me why he refuses to speak at NN10, and America's Future Now.
        Why won't he interview on Rachel, but he will interview with Chuck Todd.

        These are the Dems you want?

        I bet when Rahm steps down to run for Mayor of Chicago as many reports are indicating, you will insist the only replacement that is suitable is Mark Penn.

        Also, HG, did I know you from MYDD in 2008?

        •  FYI, you're acting quite trollish. (0+ / 0-)

          I am that gadfly which God has attached to the state, and all day long and in all places...arousing and persuading and reproaching you.-Socrates

          by The Navigator on Sun Jan 10, 2010 at 06:53:40 PM PST

          [ Parent ]

          •  Huh? (0+ / 0-)

            As apposed to HG's initial comment to mine, look upthread to the comment I am responding too.
            If anything be fair and call us both trolls, unless there is a political motivator here.

            And coming from a person who doesn't view Halperin as an enemy of the party or administration, how am I not surprised you call me a troll in this context.

            Funny too noone EVER reponds to Rahm's appearance at the DLC, over the appearance of any other special interest group that caters to dems. (look down this thread)

          •  How so, explain? (0+ / 0-)

            I was reacting to a very rude, and immature comment by him.

            Sad thing is via Demographics I fall into the youngest of categories here on this site, 25-35. I would expect that kind of silly comment by someone else, maybe even on HP.

            I don't think Rahm wants to eat my children.

            I think he is an incompetent strategist, an unloyal Democrat, and generally spiteful of the party and it's agenda, and even more spiteful of his base.

            If HG loves Rahm so much, he can detail out the traits that counter my opinion.

    •  I thought Obama's staff (1+ / 0-)
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      hated Halperin.

      Wasn't there a quote somewhere of Plouffe or one of the wonderkids saying "if Halperin says we're losing, we must be winning"?

      My impression was Halperin was no friend of the Obama staff.

      I'm from the Democratic wing of the Democratic Party...

      by Betty Pinson on Sun Jan 10, 2010 at 07:02:24 PM PST

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      •  Okay, being a little fecicious here, point being (1+ / 0-)
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        made is that Rahm is very very cozy with the Beltway media.

        Hence my point that he has made several appearances on Morning Joe, and tommorow on Chuck Todd's new morning show, plus the Sunday shows.

        My greater point, is that "access" will not be cut to Halperin or Time/CNN, as they hide behind the neutral meme.

        I hope Obama's staff and press team remember Halperin, and I really really hope the DNC had a leaked copy of this book before release, if we didn't what a blind side.

  •  If Reid should resign over this... (11+ / 0-)

    ...then Biden should resign, as should Obama, as should Hillary Clinton...hell, we should purge everyone in the official Democratic Party that ever said anything that could be interpreted by people as patently absurd and offensive.

    I'd rather Reid quit because he was an ineffective Senate Majority Leader, than over some slight that everyone else is demanding a resignation over.  Geez.  It's at points like these where I appreciate the president's ability not to be so damned petty...

    In this era of politics, everyone wants to win, but no one wants to be responsible--including the voters.

    by vcthree on Sun Jan 10, 2010 at 06:12:49 PM PST

    •  God Bless, see through the right wing spin (3+ / 0-)
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      Bush Bites, JeffW, vcthree

      The RNC is going nuclear on this.

      WHY?

      Because Gingrich got all "racialist" on Steele just the other day as the long knives for Steele were coming out again.

      http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...

      •  It's not even about that for me... (3+ / 0-)
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        Virginia mom, George Pirpiris, ETF

        ...but, rather, the concept that Senator Reid should resign NOW over comments that are two years old, and just now coming out in a book.  Granted, it's a GOP okey-doke, and I'm not taking that one, but this concept that all of a sudden he should quit because he said something that many people in the party were saying is hypocritical.

        Let's be honest, here--many voters were saying that in their own living rooms; you think that Reid saying this was a shock?

        Reid, IMO, ought to at least step down from the ML post, but only because of his constant capitulation to the minority for the last three years, and not because he said something that many of his own colleagues were saying.

        I do see it for what it is: it's a media-produced "controversy" that they can now sit around roundtables and start pitching that good ol' fashioned "inside-the-Beltway" Conventional Wisdom that has gotten this country so far over the years...because they've never, ever misread the pulse of the people, ever, right?  They've never been wrong.  Just ask Mark "John McCain won the week" Halperin.

        In this era of politics, everyone wants to win, but no one wants to be responsible--including the voters.

        by vcthree on Sun Jan 10, 2010 at 06:28:57 PM PST

        [ Parent ]

  •  no. Reid should stay. that's it. n/t (8+ / 0-)

    I ♥ President Barack Obama

    by ericlewis0 on Sun Jan 10, 2010 at 06:14:03 PM PST

  •  If you can find a better Democrat for his seat... (8+ / 0-)

    ...I'm all for it.

    I have no interest in supporting his Republican opponent.

    The urge to save humanity is almost always a false face for the urge to rule it. ~ H.L. Mencken

    by Jay Elias on Sun Jan 10, 2010 at 06:15:07 PM PST

  •  Oh, you are serious... (3+ / 0-)

    I was looking for the snark tag.

    Here we are now Entertain us I feel stupid and contagious

    by Scarce on Sun Jan 10, 2010 at 06:18:31 PM PST

  •  No one should resign over a faux pas. Look at (3+ / 0-)
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    ETF, Medina Mahmoud, nokomis

    his record and decide what to do.

    By the way, I'm white but my son's bi-racial, so I tend to have thin skin when it comes to racist remarks.  Reid's comments didn't rise to that.

    Political liberal / Bible believing Christian / Lousy at litmus tests

    by VirginiaJeff on Sun Jan 10, 2010 at 06:18:50 PM PST

  •  They'll have a new vote for Majority Leader... (0+ / 0-)

    ...after the election, won't they?

    Look, he's a dead man politically if he's dumped now.

    Let him keep the title until after the election, then vote him out.

  •  Another silly distraction. Everyone involved (7+ / 0-)

    has moved on. I will pay you one cent to move on too.

    Between birthers, deathers and mouth-breathers, the gop has got 'teh crazy' and 'teh stoopid' covered.

    by amk for obama on Sun Jan 10, 2010 at 06:21:03 PM PST

  •  He'll be gone soon enough (0+ / 0-)

    and Nevada will have two Republican senators.

    [message deleted] - Barack Obama

    by Bob Love on Sun Jan 10, 2010 at 06:21:51 PM PST

    •  Reid has been such a shit ML (1+ / 0-)
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      manwithnoname

      that Republicans are actually better off with Reid where he is.  Reid did a far better job of getting Bush's legislation passed than Bill Frist did.

      I am looking forward to seeing Reid defeated -- I firmly believe he is a Republican mole.  Incompetence and spinelessness alone cannot explain the breadth of this man's incredibly abysmal performance.

      No Welfare for insurance executives -- KILL THE BILL.

      by simca on Sun Jan 10, 2010 at 06:42:38 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

  •  Harry Reid Was For The PO (3+ / 0-)
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    He was strong enough to step up and support it.  It was President Obama who did not support him.  He did get HCR thru the senate.  I think that is worth a lot.  I do think that Senator Reid could be tougher, but he is getting things done against repugs who have been nothng but obstructionist, and with some democrats who are repug lite.  He is still standing.  He is also the man who encouraged President Obama to run for president.  I have often been angry at Harry Reid, but he is not all bad.

  •  He should step down , yes (5+ / 0-)

    but not now, not on the GOP's terms.  If he's re-elected to the Senate, then I'd be happy to see Schumer or Durbin challenge him.

    "Valerie, why am I getting all these emails calling me a classless boor?"

    by TLS66 on Sun Jan 10, 2010 at 06:22:20 PM PST

  •  Harry Reid's clearly an ineffectual leader (4+ / 0-)

    I wouldn't shed a tear if he were to lose his Majority Leader post.

  •  Reid (and the dems) would like like wimps to be (2+ / 0-)
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    bullied into Reid resigning anything over this.  If there is a strong candidate in the wings, like in connecticut, Reid should consider dropping out sometime in the not too distant future. And I'm in favor of a new majority leader as well, but not tied to this faux scandal.  I do like Durbin when it comes time to pick.

  •  Personally, I disagree (6+ / 0-)
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    I like Harry Reid.  The President was not offended.  Harry Reid is good at what he does.  That's my half cent.  I'd vote for him if he were in my state.  He has seniority, knows the senate rules very well, and does a good job.

    He is not exactly a handsome man, but I do not think that that is an issue that is very important.  I try to look at whether someone works their tail off for America.  If they do, I can forgive a lot of tactlessness.

    I can't think of anyone paying any attention to Mark Halperin.  He so wants to stir up trouble among the Democrats, to get them at each other's throats.  He reminds of a little kid that likes to tattle and get a lot of his friends or competitors in trouble.  I have no respect for Halperin.  I figure he has a good looking face, looks trustworthy, so people talk to him openly.  Harry Reid should have been on his guard, but who is all the time?

  •  If he goes (2+ / 0-)
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    Setrak is responsible for finding two Democratic candidates to take "strong Republican" Senate seats.  May I suggest:

    John McCain
    Jim DeMint

    Let them step down.

    50 states, 210 media market, 435 Congressional Districts, 3080 counties, 192,480 precincts

    by TarheelDem on Sun Jan 10, 2010 at 06:25:10 PM PST

    •  I think I'm not alone in wishing (1+ / 0-)
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      renzo capetti

      Napolitano ran for U.S. Senate instead of going to Homeland Security.  There were plenty of capable candidates for that job, but only so many for U.S. Senator from Arizona.  It remains possible that a strained Republican primary between McCain and Hayworth could leave an opening for a Democrat to exploit.

      In South Carolina?  Good luck.  I haven't seen any evidence yet to suggest that DeMint has anything to worry about beyond finding his own sanity and Christian values.

      Give me a break, to hell with Firedoglake.

      by Setrak on Sun Jan 10, 2010 at 06:29:21 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

      •  Rumblings from Tea Party folks (0+ / 0-)

        ...in South Carolina.  It's why DeMint has gotten louder and more DeMinted of late.  Trying to co-opt them.  He is definitely worried about a challenge to his right. Yeah, right.  How can that be possible?  But it is my home state of South Carolina. It's possible.

        50 states, 210 media market, 435 Congressional Districts, 3080 counties, 192,480 precincts

        by TarheelDem on Mon Jan 11, 2010 at 03:44:54 AM PST

        [ Parent ]

  •  This is a sad place. (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    ETF

    I have several tabs open on my browser right now and I jsut realized that all the other ones are more cheerful.

  •  I agree (4+ / 0-)
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    Elise, proud2Bliberal, Setrak, cap76

    I would like to see him not run for re-election. He is not doing well in the polling, he has not been an effective majority leader in my opinion, and I think our chances would be better if a less tainted democrat were running for election.

    I think a huge mistake was made in NJ by the democratic party standing behind John Corzine, who had such poor chances in New Jersey from the outset due to his unpopularity. Yet they persisted in running this bad candidate, he lost, and now here we are, stuck with a republican governor.

    The same, I am afraid, will happen with Reid running for re-election.

    Proud member of People for a Reality Based Daily Kos.

    by CatM on Sun Jan 10, 2010 at 06:30:34 PM PST

  •  I think you are wrong here (7+ / 0-)

    Apart from the fact that to allow halperin and gop to push him out is just what they want, i have a little more respect for him as maj leader than i did before.

    I know the bill is flawed but that he managed to get the 60 votes, sneak in Sanders amendment at a time that repubs couldn't fight it and then went for an end run around them re the conference (yes i know some here think it was around progressives but it wasn't, it was to shut the gop out and stop their stalling tactics) tells me he had a lot more than i imagined.

    He managed to pull ALL the votes together, in a way that sure we don't love but unless you are a kill the biller, will give us the first steps in HCR for decades.

    considering the huge differences in the spectrum of the senate dems, that was quite a feat..you cant get one mad enough to vote no by threatening.

    LGF: We should make a distinction between republicans,conservatives,and fucking lunatics.(as well as democrats,liberals,and fucking moonbats)

    by vc2 on Sun Jan 10, 2010 at 06:40:21 PM PST

  •  Someday I hope to hear a Democrat defend (2+ / 0-)
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    a fellow Democrat and not join the vast neocon noise machine in calling for their resignation.

    The spineless pols inhabiting the party are more likely to attack a fellow Democrat than attack a GnoPer.  Cowards and Idiots all, save Grayson.  If the right wing is not screaming bloody murder you are doing something wrong.

    Let's hear some nastiness about Rove, Steele. Palin, Cheney, Bush, DeLay, McCain, etc.

    "The alternative to thinking in evolutionary terms is to not think at all" Sir Peter Medawar

    by J Edward on Sun Jan 10, 2010 at 06:47:50 PM PST

  •  So many need to go, not hust harry Reid. n/t (0+ / 0-)

    'If we lift our voice as one, there's nothing that can't be done' MJ

    by publicv on Sun Jan 10, 2010 at 06:50:26 PM PST

  •  bitch slap theory (2+ / 0-)
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    Tailspinterry, renzo capetti

    This is the usual bs Republican approach of trying to take down their opponent with feigned outrage.

    Reid like Lott? Ridiculous. Reid was talking about how voters might see Obama while Reid was expressing his support for him.  Lott was saying the US would have been better off if Thurmond's segregationist policies had been in effect.

    If Democrats bow to Republican pressure, they show that they can get slapped around.  Democrats need to push back on this big time. Steele has no credibility with claiming racism -- he of the fried chicken comments.  And Liz Cheney being offended? Please.

    We can't pile on, no matter what we think about Reid.

  •  This is a bad diary.. (5+ / 0-)

    No one should jump on the GOP bandwagon to bury Reid.  Reid fought for public option and was refused help by the White House.  The bill, even without public option, is a good bill and Reid has done a very good job putting a coalition together.

    He is a good Senator who should be supported by the netroots.  There are reforms needed to reassert majority rule in the US Senate, but taking Reid out is not the answer.

    Alternative rock with something to say: http://www.myspace.com/globalshakedown

    by khyber900 on Sun Jan 10, 2010 at 06:51:27 PM PST

  •  I don't think he's a racist (2+ / 0-)
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    Tailspinterry, George Pirpiris

    but he's really not cut out for majority leader - he's let Joey walk all over him.

  •  Media Matters is already Swinging at this Book! (4+ / 0-)

    http://mediamatters.org/...

    Greg Sargent gets a comment from Jay Carney, Vice President Biden's communications director, about a new book's claims that Biden and President Obama had a strained relationship:

       We aren't going to comment on rehashed rumors about the campaign. But I can say that if the authors were concerned with accuracy they might have checked their reporting with people on the Vice President's staff. They did not. I can also say that the President and Vice President have worked together very closely and successfully this past year.

    It's worth keeping in mind that the book in question is co-authored by Mark Halperin, an editor-at-large at Time magazine -- where he worked with Carney, who served as Time's Washington bureau chief before going to work for Biden.

    Also worth keeping in mind: concern for accuracy is not among Halperin's strong points:

       Halperin says (repeatedly) that President Obama was the one who failed to seek bipartisan agreement. That is the exact opposite of what happened. This is not a matter of interpretation; it is a matter of clear facts. The Republican proposal consisted entirely of tax cuts. That happened. It's a fact. The Democratic stimulus package included a mix of tax cuts and spending. That happened. It's a fact. When Mark Halperin says it was Obama and the Democrats who refused to seek bipartisan agreement, he is demonstrating that he is either so woefully uninformed about basic facts or so blatantly dishonest that, in either case, he cannot be taken seriously.

    Want to read more about Halperin, go to that eeeeevil leeeebral website media matters and check him out

    http://mediamatters.org/...

  •  Mmmmmm. (0+ / 0-)

    Pie.

    The question is not whether the chickens needed replacing, the question is whether the fox should have been guarding them in the first place.

    by happymisanthropy on Sun Jan 10, 2010 at 07:21:06 PM PST

  •  For those that voted he not run for re-election (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Tailspinterry, George Pirpiris

    and step down as ML, I hope you know that there probably isn't another Democrat that could win here in Nevada currently.  So we'd get stuck with another Republican senator...keep in mind, we're already screwed with John Ensign.  I'd much rather have a senator like Harry Reid instead of getting another Republican senator like Danny Tarkanian (he jumped all over this story once it was revealed...cheap shots).

  •  How about a BLUE state Maj. Leader? (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    George Pirpiris

    Wouldn't that be a nice concept? When was the last time we had one?

    Let's see... Here, in regressive order, are the constituent states of Democratic leaders since the 1920 creation of party leaders:

    Nevada: 2005 to present (Reid)
    South Dakota: 1994-2005 (Daschle)
    Maine: 1989-1995 (Mitchell)
    West Virginia: 1977-1987 (R.C. Byrd)
    Montana: 1961-1977 (Mansfield)
    Texas: 1953-1961 (L.B.J)
    Arizona: 1951-1953 (McFarland)
    Illinois: 1949-1951 (Lucas)
    Kentucky: 1937-1949 (Barkley)
    Arkansas: 1923-1937 (Robinson)
    Alabama: 1920-1923 (Underwood)

    •  Nevada is blue by some metrics, (1+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      George Pirpiris

      Sen. Reid was key to getting the early caucus date for Nevada that sparked the current resurgence. Obama won Nevada by 12.5%. Four out of five state constitutional officers below governor are Democrats. Three of the state's five congresspeople are Democrats and two are women. Democrats had a 100K registration advantage in November 2008, now about 80K, but expected to rise as new voters still choose D over R. The Nevada State Democratic Party is quite robust with lots of energetic staff, a dedicated E-Board, loyal volunteers, busy offices, well-attended events and funraising. The dozen or so clubs and caucuses within the NSDP are the focus for grassroots organizing.

      ....the only thing we have to fear is fear itself. FDR 1933

      by Tailspinterry on Sun Jan 10, 2010 at 10:34:17 PM PST

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  •  A weak GOP tactic (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Tailspinterry, George Pirpiris

    The very first thing I noticed about, then Senator Barack Obama was that he had the look and articulate speech which would enable him (combined with his capabilities) to become the first Black President of the United States...thus, I started an organization to help stimulate and invigorate others to agree.

    Greg Jones
    National Director
    Blacks4Barack

    There was absolutely NOTHING wrong with Senator Reid's assessment....which is evident by the historic outcome.

  •  Hes not a racist (0+ / 0-)

    and he should run for relection.  If they voters don't want him, they won't elect him

    Laughter is a force for democracy - John Cleese

    by GlowNZ on Sun Jan 10, 2010 at 08:42:40 PM PST

  •  You don't change horses in the middle of (0+ / 0-)

    the stream. Old saying there. Especially a wide one like now.

    WTF is with Halperin to stir this BS now.

    Reid's going nowhere and this is a non-starter for outrage.

    <div style="color: #a00000;"> Our... constitutional heritage rebels at the thought of giving government the power to control men's minds. Thurgood Marshal

    by bronte17 on Sun Jan 10, 2010 at 11:38:31 PM PST

  •  Rather see a ML Feingold or Brown than... (0+ / 0-)

    Durbin or Schumer.
    Let's get the heck out of every position filled by a DC insider.
    Change!

    St. Ronnie was an asshole.

    by manwithnoname on Mon Jan 11, 2010 at 03:09:15 AM PST

  •  if we could find a better majority leader (0+ / 0-)

    and a better senator from nevada, i'd agree with you. i'd like to believe both are possible, but neither are assured. the senate dems can always find a way to outsuck expectations; reid is their collective manifestation, in a sense.

    surf putah, your friendly neighborhood central valley samizdat

    by wu ming on Mon Jan 11, 2010 at 04:03:33 AM PST

  •  NO.HE.DOESN'T.NEED.TO.GO. (0+ / 0-)

    "I'm asking you to believe not just in my ability to bring about real change in Washington....I'm asking you to believe in yours."~Barack Obama~

    by TULIPS4DOLPHINS on Mon Jan 11, 2010 at 06:00:47 AM PST

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