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Kevin Landrigan of the Nashua Telegraph on President Obama's visit to the southern New Hampshire city (over the border and just north of Scott Brown's voters):

But Obama’s defiant defense of the need to reform health care drew, by far, the biggest response.

..."I do not quit; we are going to get that done," said Obama, claiming comprehensive health care reform is near the finish line rather than out of the running.

A standing ovation from this crowd of more than 1,000 at Nashua North High School began slowly but steadily grew, prompting Obama to nod and twice repeat, "We have to get it done."

And for the Claire McCaskills of the senate who are wondering whether they should emulate Evan Bayh's reelection strategy rather than practice public service: are you anxious about using reconciliation to fix the worst parts of the bill?

Well, then, Judd Gregg's got your bipartisanship right here:

"The point, of course, is this: If you have 51 votes for your position, you win," Gregg told his Senate colleagues on the floor.

He added, "Reconciliation is a rule of the Senate (that) has been used before for purposes exactly like this on numerous occasions... Is there something wrong with majority rules? I don't think so."

In other news, that standing ovation must surely have come from the Tea People who snapped up all the tix to "crash" the event "inside and outside".


But even if his newly combative approach notches the president some rhetorical wins, he risks alienating people at the same time.

Earth to AP: the President already has alienated people throughout 2009, the year of Lucy and the Football.  Scott Brown kept all the McCain voters; Not so much for Coakley and the Obama voters.  In that margin was the GOPer victory, and not all of it can be blamed on Coakley's astoundingly poor campaign.

(Crossposted from Blue Hampshire, with slight edits and title change for a national audience.)

Originally posted to Dean Barker on Wed Feb 03, 2010 at 03:17 AM PST.

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  •  So, is that the HCR (0+ / 0-)

    with the Public Option that Obama previously insisted was "essential" and with the negotiations on CSPAN, or the HC"R" plotted behind closed doors which is a cave-in to Big Pharma and the insurance companies?

    Just wonderin'.

    She said that she was working for the ABC News
    It was as much of the alphabet as she knew how to use

    by Paolo on Wed Feb 03, 2010 at 04:04:31 AM PST

    •  And this quip advances the dialogue (7+ / 0-)

      in what way?

      •  It doesn't. (8+ / 0-)

        However, that's all he/she does.  Finds ways to bash the president.  It's so tiresome and predictable.    

        •  Let's Hear It For The Sidecar Reconciliation Bill (1+ / 0-)
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          Wolf Of Aquarius

          There is nothing inconsistent with wondering if we are going to get the Faucus Bill 'as is' or something better.


          •  I'm nervous of all calls for "side car" (0+ / 0-)

            The same folks who used to say "kill the bill" have now evolved to side car confusion. Some convoluted scheme to get many ponies. I'm  scared it's still the same anti health care folks hiding behind a new banner.

            "Don't fall or we both go" Derek Hersey

            by ban nock on Wed Feb 03, 2010 at 05:33:19 AM PST

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        •  Oh, my bad. I'm sorry. (0+ / 0-)

          So you believe there will be a public option in Obama's HCR? I'll be the first to congratulate him if there is. Sadly there's not much evidence that he's still pushing for one, is there? Despite the earlier statements, which I'll include here again to be tiresome and predictable:

          – In the 2008 Obama-Biden health care plan on the campaign’s website, candidate Obama promised that “any American will have the opportunity to enroll in [a] new public plan.” [2008]

          – During a speech at the American Medical Association, President Obama told thousands of doctors that one of the plans included in the new health insurance exchanges “needs to be a public option that will give people a broader range of choices and inject competition into the health care market.” [6/15/09]

          – While speaking to the nation during his weekly address, the President said that “any plan” he signs “must include…a public option.” [7/17/09]

          – During a conference call with progressive bloggers, the President said he continues “to believe that a robust public option would be the best way to go.” [7/20/09]

          – Obama told NBC’s David Gregory that a public option “should be a part of this [health care bill],” while rebuking claims that the plan was “dead.” [9/20/09]

          --Think Progress

          Forgive me for expecting and hoping he would follow through on this. If you have evidence that he is, please provide it.

          She said that she was working for the ABC News
          It was as much of the alphabet as she knew how to use

          by Paolo on Wed Feb 03, 2010 at 05:39:40 AM PST

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          •  can you please give me a list or (5+ / 0-)

            a headcount of the senators who would support including it at this point, and include a mechanism for how it's done, and that those senators also would agree on using that mechanism to include this?

            If it's doable and Obama says "nah, I don't want it" I'll be pissed.  If it's not doable, and Obama says better this than nothing, I'd have to agree.  Where we seem to be disagreeing around here is that some think he can twist arms behind the scenes to get to a magic number, and isn't doing it because he doesn't care enough about either the public option, or about breaking his promises (why he would want to do either when it's an obvious polling win for him escapes me in this logic, but whatever).  That degree of behind the scenes ability to force Senators into line on this seems to be unknowable for certain, and so our conclusions reflects pretty much what people are inclined to believe.  Thus being pretty hard to win an argument about, no?  Posturing that either side is "right" also seems hard to prove.  And definitely unhelpful since it's just leading to more and more divisive finger-pointing and name-calling around here.  Just my sense, but what do I know...

            (Sadly, in Kathmandu no longer.)

            by American in Kathmandu on Wed Feb 03, 2010 at 05:56:23 AM PST

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    •  Actually (6+ / 0-)

      this is the HCR that:

      gives the keys to the US Treasury to Aetna & United Health, so they throw away Joe Lieberman and Ben Nelson since they got a better offer;

      mandates every American (including the estates of those who have died since the Constitution went into effect) give 37.22% of their income AND assets to Big Pharma, and include this provision in their wills;

      denies actual health care to anyone not employed by the private sector health insurance companies or big pharma, allowing us to
        :close all clinics and hospitals in the country except for 6 in Hartford and New Haven;
        :fire every single person in the medical/nursing/allied health field, therefore REALLY reducing spending on health care

      drops every single American from every health care plan ever invented, since no claims will ever be paid, thereby saving the health insurers a TON of money in costs, increasing profits and "adding to shareholder value."

      Just wonderin' when these sort of comments and diaries are going to end........

      "God has given wine to gladden the hearts of people." Psalm 104:15

      by WineRev on Wed Feb 03, 2010 at 04:39:59 AM PST

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  •  Thank you for posting this diary (4+ / 0-)

    we cannot allow DKos to be spun away from healthcare.
    Washington reads this site--even if it seems like it ignores it.
    Keep healthcare on the rec list daily.

  •  listened in on a conference call of a senator (3+ / 0-)
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    DWG, kafkananda, Wolf Of Aquarius

    up for election Monday, most questions were "are we going to get health care done"

    Didn't hear a one from "bill killers" or "sidecarers".

    I'd say it's still on most radar screens.

    "Don't fall or we both go" Derek Hersey

    by ban nock on Wed Feb 03, 2010 at 05:24:51 AM PST

  •  Crowd reaction more important than Obama's words. (1+ / 0-)
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    Dean Barker

    From what I saw, that was NOT staged--it was a spontaneous reaction that revealed the depth of emotion and support for REAL health care reform.

    I actually felt a little tingle up my leg.....

    Seeing that reaction make a couple of things abundantly clear:

    1. Had Obama lifted a finger last August, we could have swamped the tea baggers with our own public demonstrations.
    1. It exposed the fundamental intellectual bankruptcy of rahm and the blue dogs.

    Voting for a republican because you are disappointed in Obama is like leaving your kids with a pedophile because you're pissed at the babysitter.

    by Azdak on Wed Feb 03, 2010 at 06:55:57 AM PST

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