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Catching this, not much up yet, gives me a chance to catch up on the Brit Iraq War Inquiry, still ongoing.

First the Brits with theirs, next the Dutch and theirs and now some very prominent Aussie's are calling for their own! Could the pressure start mounting on the Power that controlled the whole extremely failed policies of the previous decade? Time will tell but most residents of this country are apathetic and arrogant as to most everything especially baring their guilt and guilty in mass, as the The pitbull in lipstick said at the no American Flags tea gathering, "We don't want to look back'"!

With all the questions that need to be answered, especially as to the growing lists of proof debunking much of what was stated in the lead up to and continued occupation of there's one I never hear asked nor can find anything on, how much did it cost this country to buy the so called 'coalition of nations' that signed on their support to our countries leadership?! Especially the many who only sent a few military troops or most who sent none!

Doctors call for inquiry into Australia's war on Iraq

The Medical Association for Prevention of War has called for an independent inquiry into Australia’s involvement in the Iraq War.

MAPW president Dr Bill Williams said: "It’s time to quiz the men and women who sent Australians to war in Iraq. Let us scrutinise their reasons. Were they valid? Was our intelligence accurate? Was our participation legal?  >>>>>

Australian Iraq war inquiry?

February 05, 2010

Does Australia need its own commission of inquiry into its decision to invade Iraq? >>>>>

That's it so far on hopefully a growing Australian story and better yet their own Inquiry, but we can help these doctors and the Australians in support of their call!

Now to catch up on the British Inquiry, since my last.

The Listening Post - Media coverage of the UK's Iraq war inquiry - Part 1

Short: Goldsmith 'misled' cabinet over Iraq

2 February 2010 Former international development secretary Clare Short accuses Lord Goldsmith, the former attorney general, of misleading the Cabinet over the legality of the Iraq war. Katie Razzall reports.

Why Clare's career was cut Short

4 February 2010 BLAIR lied over Iraq. The four words you'd think would dominate any inquiry into the war.

But amidst all the soft-soaping and issue-dodging, it came down to one brave woman to say them. Clare Short.

Snip

Her ovation from the gallery was well deserved.

But it will be scant consolation for a career lost because there's no room for principles in our politics any more. >>>>>

'Something profound has been lost'

6 February 2010 Clare Short believes she was right not to resign sooner over Iraq: 'If I'd wanted to be popular, I just would have gone'. Photograph: Eamonn McCabe

Clare Short's failure to resign before the Iraq war drew criticism. This week, she was applauded after giving evidence at the Chilcot inquiry. Now about to leave parliament after 27 years, does she have any regrets?

For once, the timing couldn't have been better. It wasn't just, as Clare Short points out, that the Chilcot inquiry gave her a full three hours, "so I could say the whole thing"; it was also that she's standing down at the next election, and "it felt really good to go out and sit there and say my piece, put it on the record," before she leaves. >>>>>

Not Holding Leaders Responsible

For Crimes Only Breeds More War

One reason the U.S. is continuously at war is that its leaders "are never held to any criminal responsibility for their actions," a law school dean writes.

The U.S. hanged World War II German and Japanese war criminals "but no American leaders are held to criminal responsibility by America, no matter how dastardly their conduct," writes Lawrence Velvel, dean of the Massachusetts School of Law at Andover.

"And we of course will not let any other country or body hold them to criminal responsibility for horrendous conduct," writes Velvel, in his school’s "Long Term View" magazine. Indeed, he noted the President George W. Bush "with unaccustomed foresight refused to let America support and ‘participate’ in the International Criminal Court lest Americans be triable for their actions." >>>>>

Archbishop of Canterbury chides Tony Blair over Chilcot inquiry

5 February 2010 More Dostoevsky please! Rowan Williams says ex-PM needs more soul-searching after evidence to Iraq war inquiry

The archbishop of Canterbury has renewed his criticism of Tony Blair by urging the former prime minister to recognise his "absurdity" in the wake of the Chilcot inquiry into the Iraq war — and suggesting he read more Dostoevsky.

Repeating a previous quip that Blair is "very strong on God, very weak on irony", Rowan Williams said the former prime minister had perhaps not done enough soul-searching. >>>>>

POODLE'S NEW TERRIER

Tony Blair asked "the 2010 question" at the Iraq War Inquiry: where would we be if we hadn't invaded in 2003? His self-appointed apologist Richard Madeley claims that no one has answered the question. Well, let's try.

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Hundreds of thousands of Iraqi civilian victims of war would not be dead, two million would not be refugees in Jordan and Syria. 179 British servicemen would be alive. Untold billions of taxpayers' money would have been spent on the NHS or schools.

Snip

There may be a downside. Tony Blair could still be Prime Minister, with Richard Madeley his yapping Pekingese in Downing Street. But you can't have everything. >>>>>

A few more points are made in the above.

Chilcot will change the way Muslims see the west

5 February 2010 If there is any hint of whitewash in the Iraq inquiry, it will only exacerbate an already inflamed situation

As we watch the ­unfolding drama of the Chilcot inquiry, we should be aware that this is not simply an act of domestic cleansing. Whatever the implications for our political and judicial institutions, it is crucial that the British people learn how we came to go to war. But Muslims are also waiting for the outcome of the investigation, and this makes the inquiry an opportunity that we can ill afford to lose. >>>>>

The above is the reason the United States Must hold their own Inquiry but better yet hearings leading to possible indictments, for we have caused the hatreds to grow and shown exactly what others once only used as their propaganda towards us proving it wasn't propaganda but truth. It would minimize the blowback that continues and will for the coming decades, especially in those just born or not born yet having not grown up, this past decades within the death and destruction wrought, as we try to become what we say and think we are!

Iraq Enquiry - Tony Blair’s ‘no regrets’ may return to haunt him, according to Philippe Sands QC

Last September I testified before the Dutch inquiry, which was equivalent to the Chilcot inquiry. I believe only two foreigners testified, Hans Blix and myself. I was grilled for about three hours. It had seven members, four of whom were legally qualified. They were extremely knowledgeable and well organised. That inquiry was presided over by a former chief justice of the Dutch supreme court, a respected authority.

They certainly knew how to ask questions. It was a stark contrast to the kind of questioning from the Chilcot inquiry, perhaps with the exception of Sir Roderic Lyne. It’s true, the composition doesn’t look ideal when you look at background and identities. But you learn to keep an open mind on these things, and the proof will be in the pudding. Let’s see what they report.
The Dutch inquiry reported three weeks ago. It concluded in a unanimous report that the Dutch government had taken an early decision, not based on justifiable intelligence, and that it was an illegal act that violated international law. >>>>>

Ann Clwyd tells inquiry why she backed Iraq invasion

4 February 2010 THE Prime Minister’s special envoy to Iraq said last night she had backed the 2003 invasion after becoming convinced Saddam Hussein was again planning to use chemical weapons against his own people.

Ann Clwyd, the MP for Cynon Valley, told the Chilcot Inquiry into the conflict that other avenues for dealing with the Iraqi regime had been exhausted.

As a human rights campaigner she had worked with Iraqi exiles in the Indict movement to get member of the Saddam government tried for war crimes but despite passing files to Scotland Yard no action was taken. >>>>>

That last sentence leads to another question I've had this one since Gulf War !, "Why didn't the United States and that Coalition of Nations bring charges in the Hague against Saddam at that time or right after his military was destroyed on the Highway of Death retreating back into Iraq from Kuwait?". Some of that may have had to do with the fact that those that gave Saddam the wink and nod to invade Kuwait were his most ardant supporters for years and some having helped place him in power in the first place.

And now maybe a trial or another Inquiry looms on the British

66 Iraqis launch torture cases against British troops

6 February 2010 Lawyers for 66 Iraqis, claiming torture and abuse at the hands of UK soldiers, started legal action Friday calling for a single inquiry into Britain s detention policy during the Iraq war.

There are now so many cases and claimants that the Ministry of Defence (MoD), Royal Military Police and the Court cannot hope to deal with them all individually within any sort of reasonable timescale,  said Public Interest Lawyers (PIL).

Thus, it will be argued in this fresh judicial review that the only rational approach now is for a single and independent public inquiry into all the issues and cases,  PIL said in a statement obtained by IRNA. >>>>>

Bush, Cheney and the Great Escape

Photo: phxpma; Edited: Lance Page / t r u t h o u t

With each passing day, it becomes more and more astonishing to encompass the fact that George W. Bush, Dick Cheney and their henchmen from the prior administration have managed thus far to escape any accounting whatsoever for the massive battery of criminal activity committed during their time in office. More than a year has passed since these men had their hands on the levers of power, and evidence of their myriad crimes and frauds is laying all over the countryside, yet nothing has come of it.

The British government has been running a wide-ranging inquiry into the manner in which the UK and United States were led to war in Iraq by then-President Bush and then-Prime Minister Tony Blair. An astonishing amount of damning evidence and information has been uncovered and publicly aired, including the following statements delivered by a senior member of Parliament (MP) on Tuesday: >>>>>

Still going through some articles, it's frankly amazing how well the British media not only is covering this Inquiry but actually does pretty extensive reporting on many issues, hell most of the best reporting of facts during the previous decade has come forth from the Brits and others, them times are long gone here across the pond!

Iraq War Inquiry

Watch the Inquiry Live when in Session

Written Transcripts by Date

Oral: The Video's by Date

See how the Inquiry is unfolding on the Sky News Timeline

BBC Iraq inquiry - day by day timeline of evidence given

Originally posted to jimstaro on Sun Feb 07, 2010 at 07:48 AM PST.

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  •  This Wk., if they get into and around DC (15+ / 0-)

    Wounded Warrior Veterans

    And the republican reps, in lock-step obstructionist always of Veterans needs, will be adorned with their finest 'purple heart bandages', big smiles and their lapel flag pins, as they speak of how much they 'support?' the troops and veterans!!

    America's Wounded Warrior Veterans March on the Congress

    The Military Order of the Purple Heart is stepping up to the call from Congress for input on how best to resolve the issues most important to the nation's veterans. America's wounded warriors from across the country will converge on Washington, D.C. during 8-12 February, 2010 to meet with their state's Senators and Representatives to educate them on these important issues Coming by twos and threes from almost every State and Territory, Capitol Hill will be awash in a sea of color as some 100 members of the Military Order of the Purple Heart travel the halls of Congress, their distinctive blue blazers adorned with America's oldest military decoration, the Purple Heart Medal, established by General George Washington in 1782 in Newburgh, New York. >>>>>

    Faith is taking the first step, even when you don't see the whole staircase.--Martin Luther King Jr.

    by jimstaro on Sun Feb 07, 2010 at 07:56:36 AM PST

    •  bears repeating, Jim (5+ / 0-)
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      One reason the U.S. is continuously at war is that its leaders "are never held to any criminal responsibility for their actions," a law school dean writes.

      The U.S. hanged World War II German and Japanese war criminals "but no American leaders are held to criminal responsibility by America, no matter how dastardly their conduct," writes Lawrence Velvel, dean of the Massachusetts School of Law at Andover.

      "And we of course will not let any other country or body hold them to criminal responsibility for horrendous conduct," writes Velvel, in his school’s "Long Term View" magazine. Indeed, he noted the President George W. Bush "with unaccustomed foresight refused to let America support and ‘participate’ in the International Criminal Court lest Americans be triable for their actions."

      "We are tired of war," he said. "We don't want it anymore."

      by allenjo on Sun Feb 07, 2010 at 08:58:43 AM PST

      [ Parent ]

    •  i'd like to see veterans protest the local (1+ / 0-)
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      radio stations that gave a pack of cheerleading chickenhawks (limbaugh, hannity, and spawn) the loudest megaphones in every US county to spew the bush WH propaganda 24/7 to lie them into iraq.

      US social and political reality is largely determined by 1000 radio stations blasting coordinated UNCONTESTED repetition all day long.

      by certainot on Sun Feb 07, 2010 at 09:47:26 AM PST

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  •  Clair Short was already on record about (7+ / 0-)

    the lack of consultation on going to war and discussion in the cabinet. She, rightfully, lost a lot of credibility by not leaving along with Robin Cook. She was already isolated in the cabinet (not new labour enough for Tony and his gang by far) and she could have gone out making a statement against the war.

    I am incredibly disappointed with the Chilcot inquiry as while it is getting information out, it is not capable of acting on this information. It is a literally safe venue and even still Blair dodged, weaved and distorted history that is on the record. If they would actually get a proper legal inquiry on this war instead I would be far happier.

    I am curious to see how the Australians will address the war, Howard seem to make a number of decisions that left Aussies rather unhappy.

    No society can surely be flourishing and happy, of which the far greater part of the members are poor and miserable (Adam Smith, 1776, I, p. 96).

    by NY brit expat on Sun Feb 07, 2010 at 07:57:08 AM PST

  •  And as usual, Americans seem unaware of all this (8+ / 0-)

    Don't look backward! Jobs! Death panels! Vapid blond media stars get plastic surgery.

    Oy.

    good thoughts, good words, good deeds -7.50, -8.51

    by Rogneid on Sun Feb 07, 2010 at 07:57:50 AM PST

    •  When another country takes action against its (4+ / 0-)
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      respective government, then that comparison may hold water.  Until that point, every country is taking the same basic approach.

      •  To a certain extent I agree (4+ / 0-)
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        with you ... however, the Brits, Dutch and maybe the Aussies are still going through the motions, I wish that they would actually move on to a war crimes trial or allow one to occur. In some senses, I don't know which is more frustrating, watching an inquiry in which the investigators are not empowered to call for a proper juridical investigation nor have the skills to actually interrogate those testifying properly (the Blair testimony was incredibly frustrating) or for a government to release some memos and then not clearly be moving to prosecution.

        It is frustrating for those that actually believe that international humanitarian law and international treaties should actually be as binding for powerful countries and their allies as it should be for losers in a war against them.

        I am waiting for further discussions and forced evidence from the UK government and FCO on international torture complicity with the US ... happily I am not holding my breath.

        No society can surely be flourishing and happy, of which the far greater part of the members are poor and miserable (Adam Smith, 1776, I, p. 96).

        by NY brit expat on Sun Feb 07, 2010 at 08:17:43 AM PST

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    •  The hockey pucks (3+ / 0-)
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      Talking points last night, and the 'teabaggers' only concerns now as most of them Supported the previous decades policies and attacked everyone not as ignorant as they as enemies of the state!!

      Faith is taking the first step, even when you don't see the whole staircase.--Martin Luther King Jr.

      by jimstaro on Sun Feb 07, 2010 at 08:06:03 AM PST

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  •  Bush lied, our soldiers died. (6+ / 0-)

    What more need be said?

    Of course I could go on about hundreds of thousands of dead Iraqi, a country wrecked, our military worn out, our economy in tatters, torture, and so on. But I think my simple initial statement captures it.

    We're shocked by a naked nipple, but not by naked aggression.

    by Lepanto on Sun Feb 07, 2010 at 08:02:12 AM PST

  •  Thanks for keeping after this (3+ / 0-)
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    My guess is that only about 1% in this country even know the Brits are doing an inquiry, let alone any other nations.

    It's not the latest hot model or dancing ingenue, after all. There's been virtually no coverage in the US press of this.

    Oh, and hooray for the Auzzies.

    If men could get pregnant, abortion would be a sacrament.--A Boston cabbie, to Gloria Steinem, in the 1970s

    by Mnemosyne on Sun Feb 07, 2010 at 08:47:34 AM PST

  •  The Brit press apart from that owned (2+ / 0-)
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    by the ex-ozzie Murdoch believes in reporting, they tend to like getting at whatever party is in power.

    Oh no, the dead have risen and they're voting Republican. - Lisa Simpson

    by LaFeminista on Sun Feb 07, 2010 at 09:16:10 AM PST

  •  will America be the only country... (1+ / 0-)
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    that does NOT hold their leaders accountible for the LIES that led us into war on IRAQ?

    How sad for our once great nation to fall this far to protect such a pathetic bunch of traitors.

    "Obama set his Phaser on stun and aimed at the GOP Retreat"

    by KnotIookin on Sun Feb 07, 2010 at 09:17:02 AM PST

  •  the left can force this by picketing the RW radio (1+ / 0-)
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    stations that were essential for selling this to the american public.

    that level of lies and fear and political intimidation could not have been sold by the war profiteers without the coordinated uncontested repetition coming from 1000 RW radio stations to 50 MIL people.

    after months of Bush WH propaganda laundered through the limbaughs and hannitys with their chickenhawk cheerleading, when dems wanted to continue discussion on giving bush war powers, it was the coordinated chanting of "stand up and be counted" from those 1000 radio stations, channeled through their screaming dittoheads, that forced that vote. the same way the disinformed dittohead/teabaggers/screamers stopped the public option.

    if the protests had gone directly to the GOP power centers, the limbaugh megastations that dominate political messaging and framing in the US and keep the media right, we wouldn't have gone to iraq, IMO.

    the other countries were easy to bully into this. if the left wants investigation too, wave the signs at the radio stations that lied us into this two trillion dollar human tragedy and crime. the media and politicians will have to notice, and may be thankful the radio bullies are  finally getting the attention they deserve.

    US social and political reality is largely determined by 1000 radio stations blasting coordinated UNCONTESTED repetition all day long.

    by certainot on Sun Feb 07, 2010 at 09:27:06 AM PST

  •  Combat deaths -- at home after the war (1+ / 0-)
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    No bugler played taps for Staff Sgt. Anthony S. Schmachtenberger.

    Staff Sgt. Anthony S. Schmachtenberger, left, and Spec. Steven Griffis took their own lives in 2009.

    There was no gun salute, no fallen soldier display of boots, rifle and helmet -- the traditional Army honors for a lost comrade. When a memorial service was held in the Fort Richardson chapel for Schmachtenberger last August, there was only a photograph of the soldier in uniform, propped on an easel. >>>>>

    Adding to the cheney/bush legacy!!

    Faith is taking the first step, even when you don't see the whole staircase.--Martin Luther King Jr.

    by jimstaro on Sun Feb 07, 2010 at 09:32:05 AM PST

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