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Earlier today, President Obama made a surprise appearance at the daily White House press briefing. (Watch it and read the full transcript on DKTV or view it at the bottom of this post.)

Here's a brief summary of some of the major topics he covered:

Bipartisanship: During the briefing, President Obama offered his wholehearted embrace of bipartisanship, but before you go jump off a cliff, he made it clear that to him bipartisanship doesn't mean caving into Republican demands on every single issue. President Obama said bipartisanship meant finding common ground where possible, and not letting petty partisan politics get in the way of progress on important issues. He acknowledged that both parties won't always agree on substantive policy issues, and he said that was a healthy thing, but came down hard against politically motivated obstruction such as the abuse of "holds" on his administration's appointees. "I won’t hesitate to embrace a good idea from my friends in the minority party, but I also won’t hesitate to condemn what I consider to be obstinacy that’s rooted not in substantive disagreements but in political expedience," he said. "We talked about this as well, particularly when it comes to the confirmation process."

Recess appointments: President Obama condemned the abuse of "holds" on White House nominations, singling out Shelby's "blanket hold." President Obama criticized such practices as petty politics and said they were getting in the way of governing. If the practice does not cease, he said he would be forced to use so-called recess appointments to get around Senate obstructionism. "If the Senate does not act — and I made this very clear — if the Senate does not act to confirm these nominees, I will consider making several recess appointments during the upcoming recess, because we can’t afford to allow politics to stand in the way of a well-functioning government."

Deficits: President Obama continued his focus on reducing the budget deficit, but instead of buying into the Republican framework on "cutting spending," he emphatically pointed to the biggest long-term structural budget problem: health care. "Everybody out there who talks about deficits has to acknowledge that the single biggest driver of our deficits is health care spending," he said. "We cannot deal with our deficits and debt long term unless we get a handle on that. So that has to be part of a package."

Health care reform: President Obama said he remained committed to seeing health care reform pass into law, outlining his three key goals: (1) Reduce costs, both for government programs and families and business; (2) Provide consumer protections so that nobody can be denied insurance because of a pre-existing condition; and (3) expanding coverage to insure more Americans. Obama said he was willing to "start from scratch" in the sense that he would once again give Republicans the opportunity to offer proposals to accomplish those goals, but that without a serious plan to accomplish the goals of health care reform, Republicans would effectively be choosing to stand on the sidelines. "What I will not do, what I don’t think makes sense and I don’t think the American people want to see," he said, "would be another year of partisan wrangling around these issues; another six months or eight months or nine months worth of hearings in every single committee in the House and the Senate in which there’s a lot of posturing."

Watch the briefing (transcript):

Originally posted to Daily Kos on Tue Feb 09, 2010 at 01:21 PM PST.

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  •  I thought the biggest driver of deficits (4+ / 0-)
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    is military spending. I realize healthcare is huge but defense is a bigger piece of the pie, isn't it?

    •  Nope, it is actually Medicare and health care (14+ / 0-)

      costs.

      Obama 1/10: "We don't quit. I don't quit."

      by Drdemocrat on Tue Feb 09, 2010 at 01:24:32 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

      •  The government owes money to Medicare and S.S. (5+ / 0-)

        and they're not about to ever pay it back.  That's part of the problem.  For a very long time, both Medicare and S.S. had surpluses which were spent, probably to pay for the bloated military budget.  Now there's no more Medicare surplus and I think that this year is the first year we don't have a S.S. surplus either.  The thought of having to pay back all that money sends shivers down the fake spines of the fools in Washington, especially the ones in the U.S. Senate.  These guys always seem to leave out the part about all the money they spent that for S.S. was actually against the law.  Gee, how I'd like to see a few of these people in jail.  I know that's mean, but I can't help myself, especially when it comes to the liars in the Senate.

        •  The military budget is still the biggest expense (9+ / 0-)

          because nobody pays a special tax to support it.  This is the first year we have a S.S. shortfall.  Until now, S.S. always had a surplus, but the politicians in Washington decided they were going to spend it.  It all started during the Vietnam War under President Johnson, and everyone else just kept taking it.  They wrote bonds suggesting that someday they would pay all that money back, but don't hold your breath waiting because they really can't afford it.  That's why Bush kept saying that all those IOU's were just meaningless pieces of paper.  Medicare also had a surplus for a long time, and it was also spent.  The problem now is that health care costs have gone through the roof.  You know, the "free" market.  I guess we have to sacrifice human lives in health care to pay for all the militarism we've been doing.

          Our military budget is bigger than all the military budgets in the entire world combined, and we still can't get rid of terrorists.  I wonder how big their budget is.

          •  you're absolutely right. the war apparatus (1+ / 0-)
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            Uberbah

            needs massive cuts.

            Watching this press briefing, I'm not sure Obama gets it.

            Drinking game! Everytime obama says bipartisanship, you take a shot.

            •  White paper on Defense spending and unemployment (1+ / 0-)
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              hester

              http://www.peri.umass.edu/...

              from THREE years ago:

              The U.S. government now operates with a military budget of nearly $600 billion per year....
              4.4 percent of GDP. An expenditure level of this magnitude will necessarily have a major impact in establishing the country’s policy priorities and overall economic trajectory.
              We have shown what are the employment effects of spending on the military in contrast with five domestic spending categories. Specifically, we have shown that spending on personal consumption, health care, education, mass transit, and construction for home weatherization and infrastructure repair all create more jobs per $1 billon in expenditures relative to military spending.It is true that jobs generated by military spending tend to pay relatively well, which is part of the reason that fewer jobs are created per dollar of expenditure than through alternative spending targets. However, we have also seen that $1 billion in spending on education, on average, generates more than twice the number of jobs as does military spending, and higher-paying jobs. Spending on health care, mass transit, and home weatherization/infrastructure creates jobs at a lower average level of pay than military spending. But these three spending targets do create substantially more jobs than military spending, with an overall level of pay, combining all workers’ paychecks and benefits, higher than the military. Moreover, a substantial majority of the jobs generated through a health care, mass transit or construction expansion pay more than $32,000 per year, our rough threshold for a minimally decent income level. The majority of jobs pay between $32,000 - $64,000, a rough middle-income pay range. Health care, mass transit, weatherization, and infrastructure repair are all also high priority areas for social spending. More spending in these areas could be combined with improving the average level of pay, while still creating more jobs per dollar of expenditure than the military.
              Increased personal consumption resulting from tax cuts is the only alternative spending target that we examined that is inferior to military spending along two dimensions—both the average pay and the total amount of compensation per $1 billion in expenditures are lower. There is also no reason why expanding personal consumption expenditures—particularly of the already affluent, whose level of expenditures have risen sharply since the early 1990s—should be considered as a primary focus of social policy.
              Overall then, there is a great deal at stake as policy makers and voters establish public policy spending priorities. As we have seen, by addressing social needs in the areas of health care, education, education, mass transit, home weatherization and infrastructure repairs, we would also create more jobs and, depending on the specifics of how such a reallocation is pursued, both an overall higher level of compensation for working people in the U.S. and a better average quality of jobs.

              •  within fairuse rules of this site, so no flaming. (0+ / 0-)
                •  OOOH! an * updated * analysis (0+ / 0-)

                  http://www.peri.umass.edu/...

                  From Oct 2009
                  Abstract

                  This study focuses on the employment effects of military spending versus alternative domestic spending priorities, in particular investments in clean energy, health care and education. We first present some simple alternative spending scenarios, namely devoting $1 billion to the military versus the same amount of money spent on clean energy, health care, and education, as well as for tax cuts which produce increased levels of personal consumption;. Our conclusion in assessing such relative employment impacts is straightforward: $1 billion spent on each of the domestic spending priorities will create sub-stantially more jobs within the U.S. economy than would the same $1 billion spent on the military. We then examine the pay level of jobs created through these alternative spending priorities and assess the overall welfare impacts of the alternative employment outcomes. We show that investments in clean energy, health care and education create a much larger number of jobs across all pay ranges, including mid-range jobs (paying between $32,000 and $64,000) and high-paying jobs (paying over $64,000). Chan-neling funds into clean energy, health care and education in an effective way will therefore create significantly greater opportunities for decent employ-ment throughout the U.S. economy than spending the same amount of funds with the military.

            •  HEY!!! (2+ / 0-)
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              It is totally irresponsible to encourage binge drinking.

              Yes, I know President Palin would be a disaster, and I do understand the ponies are on back order. Now, what the fuck was your point again?

              by WisePiper on Tue Feb 09, 2010 at 02:33:16 PM PST

              [ Parent ]

        •  Perhaps a US Atttorney... (0+ / 0-)

          ...can start seeking indictments against some of these scumsuckers (right after nailing Sen. Shelby for Extortion)!

      •  Impossible (0+ / 0-)

        Given that the military is over 50% of the budget.  

        Whoever profits by fighting a dragon has an interest in the dragon's remaining alive. --Nietzsche

        by not2plato on Tue Feb 09, 2010 at 01:32:00 PM PST

        [ Parent ]

      •  You have to deduct the money people pay (8+ / 0-)

        into S.S. and Medicare to really evaluate their place in the budget.  Somehow our politicians always forget to mention this.  What the GOP would like best is for everyone to keep paying into S.S. and Medicare, but for both S.S. and Medicare to be eliminated.  Then they would have all that money coming from hardworking people and wouldn't have to bother the hedge fund managers who only pay 15% in taxes.

      •  Nope - lack of taxes, (0+ / 0-)

        lack of incoming, too much outgoing.

        At the center of our government lies a bankrupt institution: Congress. -Lessig

        by mrobinson on Tue Feb 09, 2010 at 01:55:01 PM PST

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    •  well, the biggest part of the deficit (3+ / 0-)
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      is probably dropping federal tax revenue.  But if you ignore that, even zeroing out military spending would only take care of something like 1/3 of the current deficit.

      So if you made huge (and I mean huge - on the scale of cutting 1/3 to 1/2) cuts in military spending, then you might begin to make a dent in the deficit.  But it would be no where near enough to solve the problem.

    •  Long term (9+ / 0-)

      Medicare expenses are $40T more than tax receipts. The POTUS, as usual, is in command of the facts.

      Maybe instead of calling him "Commander in Chief" we should call him "Commander of Facts".

      In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice; but in practice, there always is a difference. - Yogi Berra

      by blue aardvark on Tue Feb 09, 2010 at 01:40:09 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

      •  We pay more than every other nation for health (4+ / 0-)
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        care, and we do not get the best results.  We have a high infant mortality rate and thousands of people die every year due to no health care at all.  Health care is also rationed according to wealth.  Anyone who doesn't believe this isn't paying attention.  We also pay more for prescriptions and it's forbidden for us to get them from other countries.  How criminal is that?  Yes, criminal fits.  We also have millions of people who cannot afford a dentist for either themselves or their children.

    •  But health care is more than 17% of our economy (2+ / 0-)
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      wishingwell, 3goldens

      or our gnp. That makes it a huge concern given that the cost increases are out of control. Expected to be more than 20% within ten years if nothing is done. Yet Britain's cost is 7% of its economy and covers all.

      I really don't understand how bipartisanship is ever going to work when one of the parties is insane. - John Cole

      by Gorette on Tue Feb 09, 2010 at 01:58:17 PM PST

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      •  It bugs me that nobody asks the basic question: (1+ / 0-)
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        Gorette

        Why in hell is healtch care more than 17%  of our economy and what would our economy look like if health care weren't bleeding it dry?

        Free speech? Yeah, I've heard of that. Have you?

        by dinotrac on Tue Feb 09, 2010 at 02:09:25 PM PST

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      •  In many countries, government runs health care. (2+ / 0-)
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        They set fees, etc., and it apparently works.  I don't see anyone trying to copy our system, do you?  We cannot do this here because we have ideologues of the so-called free market that would start a war over this.  After we invaded Iraq, we were paying for their government run health care system.  I don't know about now.  How much we still pay for Iraq seems to be a secret.  We also don't know the details of the oil contracts for U.S. and British companies.

      •  that's the real number (1+ / 0-)
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        Gorette

        that is astounding about health care. All that productivity wasted.

    •  Not even close nt (0+ / 0-)

      Free speech? Yeah, I've heard of that. Have you?

      by dinotrac on Tue Feb 09, 2010 at 02:04:15 PM PST

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  •  Looks like House GOP will show up at WH (8+ / 0-)

    healthcare meeting, at least Cantor will.

  •  Ah......Bipartisanship. (1+ / 0-)
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    Yeah.  That will happen.

  •  Obama's smacks down Cantor's definition (12+ / 0-)

    of bipartisanship.

    Obama 1/10: "We don't quit. I don't quit."

    by Drdemocrat on Tue Feb 09, 2010 at 01:26:01 PM PST

  •  Brilliant Preemptive Strike Mr. President (16+ / 0-)

    Get ahead of the Republican talking points!

    Loved the Spontaneous Q & A and calling on Fox's Major Garrett for the first question - Brilliant  Mr. President!

  •  Thanks for front-paging this topic Jed. :-) n/t (6+ / 0-)

    "There is no red America, or blue America, there is the United States of America." 2004 DNC Speech

    by BarackStarObama on Tue Feb 09, 2010 at 01:27:50 PM PST

  •  Sounds like the Barack Obama I voted for... (8+ / 0-)

    I hope that his actions will match his words.

    I've never claimed to be a leader of the DK eco community

    by RLMiller on Tue Feb 09, 2010 at 01:28:05 PM PST

  •  I like the fact that the CBO is going to (22+ / 0-)

    be there at the meeting because you know that the Republicans are going to spout out a lot of BULLSHIT and Obama is just going to ask the CBO head on LIVE TV if what they are saying is true.  Of course the CBO is going to do A LOT of fact checking of Republicans doing this meeting.

    I am kind of looking forward to it.  

    Bring on the popcorn!  I have a feeling that there is going to be some WHUP ASS during this meeting and Obama is going to do the whipping!!!

    Obama 1/10: "We don't quit. I don't quit."

    by Drdemocrat on Tue Feb 09, 2010 at 01:28:41 PM PST

    •  I wonder if they've had this in their pocket (6+ / 0-)

      Is this whole meet the opposition thing something they've been holding onto, or is it something that just popped up and worked, so they're sticking with it?  

      I tend to believe that the administration wanted to run the first year with the more contentious issues within the party, but then would be more aggressive about making it campaign style, speaking to the base, in the second year.  

      I could be totally wrong, but the way they've started off this year has been like the Saints in the Superbowl.

      People don't get up in the morning and ask, Do I want single-payer or managed competition? Wellstone

      by otto on Tue Feb 09, 2010 at 01:31:18 PM PST

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      •  I kinda think this strategy (5+ / 0-)
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        came about from his performance at the Republican Caucus meeting a couple of weeks ago.

        My guess is they saw the reaction of the public and the media to have this kind of interaction again.  

        And the Republicans accused Obama of back door negotiations and non transparency.

        So he's calling them on their objections to such practices and asking them to put up or shut up.  After the stink they made about it, they don't have much choice.

        They are probably wishing they didn't let the cameras in but more importantly now that it was, they should have thought more about the issues they were going to raise.  

        Now they are hoisted on their own petard

    •  I share those feelings Dr. This is going to be (2+ / 0-)
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      fascinating.  I have a feeling if the Republicans lame plans and obstructionism and lies are getting exposes ....Fox Noise will cut away to discuss how the Big Bad Democrats are picking on the sincere, sweet Republicans.

  •  MOAR PLEEZ! (3+ / 0-)
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    wishingwell, goheelsgodems, not2plato

    Call them out. Smack them down. Get the business of the people done.

    And pass the goddamn health care bill with the negotiated improvements into goddamn law already.

    Government is not instituted for the good of the governor, but of the governed; and power is not an advantage, but a burden. -Algernon Sidney

    by James Robinson on Tue Feb 09, 2010 at 01:29:03 PM PST

  •  Isn't Shelby's "blanket hold" crap (3+ / 0-)
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    otto, wishingwell, cybrestrike

    very much akin to the kid who takes his ball and bat home when his petulant tantrums aren't bowed to by the rest of the gang?

  •  I love it when my President presidents (9+ / 0-)

    Of course, this kills the "He hasn't given any news conferences" complaint...

    Once in a while you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.

    by darthstar on Tue Feb 09, 2010 at 01:34:07 PM PST

  •  He's starting to act Presidential (4+ / 0-)
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    wishingwell, JanL, Ky DEM, Vin

    You don't have power unless you use it.

    You can't hold the hammer unless at times you wield it.

    He will win if he acts like he is the adult and Congress is his kids.

    "Progress" is the core of progressive. Two steps forward. One step back.

    by captainlaser on Tue Feb 09, 2010 at 01:34:56 PM PST

    •  I always knew he could be tough as nail and (2+ / 0-)
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      ETF, Mr MadAsHell

      withstand the criticism and never lose his strength...as we watched him during the campaign..now we are seeing that.  

      I think he got tired of the bullshit and he is going full throttle ...he is showing his toughness.

      I heard he also yelled at Iran during the Press Conference but the wingnuts will still find that fault with that although Bush was forever doing that.

  •  You know, on health care reform, (9+ / 0-)
    the POTUS is setting it up such that unless the Repubs actually vote for a bill, that will just force the Dems to pass it thru reconciliation.  Oh, well, he tried to get them to play ball.  

    I was wise enough to never grow up while fooling most people into believing I had. - Margaret Mead

    by fayea on Tue Feb 09, 2010 at 01:35:43 PM PST

    •  Mb so (0+ / 0-)

      but on the other hand, the whole high wire act is about who looks bipartisan in the fall election cycle, and reconciliation looks non-bipartisan.  

      So, don't bet on it yet

      Whoever profits by fighting a dragon has an interest in the dragon's remaining alive. --Nietzsche

      by not2plato on Tue Feb 09, 2010 at 01:39:06 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

    •  My take, too (3+ / 0-)
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      wishingwell, zizi, ETF

      I mean, we've seen the polls...

      The American public - left either uninformed or misinformed by the village press- has very, very, very little understanding of how things work.

      If you want to use reconciliation, you have to sloooowwwwllllyyy tortuously walk the village media into it.  

      I guess everyone's got their own blog now.

      by zonk on Tue Feb 09, 2010 at 02:10:59 PM PST

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      •  Only if you're a Democrat, I think. (1+ / 0-)
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        fayea

        I don't remember the Bushies (+Nelson) tip-toeing around using reconciliation for their fucking tax cuts. Didn't they just full-speed-ahead? Did David Broder care?

        If you want to use reconciliation, you have to sloooowwwwllllyyy tortuously walk the village media into it.  

        We learn to love the struggle, and fear victory-- Me, Madison Wisconsin, c. 1970

        by PhilJD on Tue Feb 09, 2010 at 03:46:56 PM PST

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    •  Yes he wants the country to see that he is (2+ / 0-)
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      inviting the Republicans to dinner but if they choose not to eat, whine about how bad the food is,  everyone will see that.  

      That is my latest analogy.  It is like someone throws a tantrum because you never invited them to dinner. You invite them to dinner and they complain about the food and refuse to eat.

  •  So, we will have what (1+ / 0-)
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    another two months of health care debate?

    Another three months?

    I don't see the point of a meeting on CSPAN with the party one refuses to diss even while they slime you all day on TV and radio and in mailers all over the nation.  

    Mthinks the D's are getting rolled again...  

    Whoever profits by fighting a dragon has an interest in the dragon's remaining alive. --Nietzsche

    by not2plato on Tue Feb 09, 2010 at 01:36:36 PM PST

    •  GOP will show up to the meeting (3+ / 0-)
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      As I noted above, Cantor seems to have backtracked on his letter, and says he will come. Even Bill Kristol said, that when the president asks you to a meeting, you should go.

    •  not necessarily as I said in my post above (0+ / 0-)

      the President is inviting the Republicans to participate but if they are stubborn and do not give an inch and act all whiney....;people will see the Democrats had no choice but to move ahead on their own.

    •  They are indeed getting rolled, if this meeting (0+ / 0-)

      becomes the precursor for another round of endless empty "discussions." I'm afraid of that too, but I'm still (very cautiously!) optimistic...

      another two months of health care debate? Another three months? Mthinks the D's are getting rolled again...  

      We learn to love the struggle, and fear victory-- Me, Madison Wisconsin, c. 1970

      by PhilJD on Tue Feb 09, 2010 at 03:50:45 PM PST

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  •  "Can't allow POLITICS to get in the way"?!?! (2+ / 0-)
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    Why does he insist on falling back on "politics" as the generic dirty word of, well, politics?

    Why not call out Shelby as an ear-mark-grubbing hypocrite and say that this shows why the Senate needs to change its rules?

    Be the ball, Danny.

    by Simian on Tue Feb 09, 2010 at 01:37:15 PM PST

  •  Great definition of bipartisanship! (6+ / 0-)

    Now, act like you meant that.

    They have very few good ideas. You can probably fit them onto Sarah Palin's palm and have room for a moose stew recipe. This should not take long.

    In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice; but in practice, there always is a difference. - Yogi Berra

    by blue aardvark on Tue Feb 09, 2010 at 01:39:04 PM PST

  •  What about progressives and single payer? (4+ / 0-)
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    3goldens, ColoTim, NYCartist, kareylou

    President Obama said he remained committed to seeing health care reform pass into law, outlining his three key goals: (1) Reduce costs, both for government programs and families and business; (2) Provide consumer protections so that nobody can be denied insurance because of a pre-existing condition; and (3) expanding coverage to insure more Americans. Obama said he was willing to "start from scratch" in the sense that he would once again give Republicans the opportunity to offer proposals to accomplish those goals

    Move Your Money The truth is too big to fail. Justice is too big to fail. Peace is too big to fail.

    by Burned on Tue Feb 09, 2010 at 01:39:19 PM PST

    •  do they have the votes he needs? (3+ / 0-)
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      v2aggie2, ETF, Mebby

      i know its shocking, but when counting votes and you find you're short, you end up focusing on the things that will get you the votes you still need.

      •  Wait (2+ / 0-)
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        chuckvw, 3goldens

        Do you think the repubs will actually come up with something viable or vote for anything the dems come up with?

        Ha ha.

        I'm just asking for respect. The same respect he offers the Republicans.

        Move Your Money The truth is too big to fail. Justice is too big to fail. Peace is too big to fail.

        by Burned on Tue Feb 09, 2010 at 01:46:06 PM PST

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        •  you have his respect (3+ / 0-)
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          my point is that the political focus on where it should be, on getting the bill passed. of course the GOP won't change, but the effort he's making will provide the cover to ram something through by some parlimentary maneuver.

          introducing single payer now, after all that has happened and all the opposition to things like the PO, just to give those who view it as a line in the sand a feeling of respect, will set whole the effort back. you may not want to hear that but its the truth.

          •  I'm just going off of Obama's quote (0+ / 0-)

            about being willing to start from scratch and listen to their ideas.

            Might as well let a few liberals in.

            Move Your Money The truth is too big to fail. Justice is too big to fail. Peace is too big to fail.

            by Burned on Tue Feb 09, 2010 at 01:51:20 PM PST

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            •  He's not saying that (5+ / 0-)
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              wishingwell, Catte Nappe, Seeds, JanL, ETF

              Obama said he was willing to "start from scratch" in the sense that he would once again give Republicans the opportunity to offer proposals to accomplish those goals...

              He's saying that he's willing to give them a chance to speak their wishes again.  He's not saying that he would start the process over.  

              People don't get up in the morning and ask, Do I want single-payer or managed competition? Wellstone

              by otto on Tue Feb 09, 2010 at 01:55:22 PM PST

              [ Parent ]

              •  Exactly (1+ / 0-)
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                hester

                I do believe my quote says start from scratch and listen to their ideas. I don't understand why you think that's any different than what you said.

                What's the problem with letting a little single payer talk in too instead of just catering to the R's?

                It's a political play.
                Might as well go broad spectrum.

                Move Your Money The truth is too big to fail. Justice is too big to fail. Peace is too big to fail.

                by Burned on Tue Feb 09, 2010 at 02:03:36 PM PST

                [ Parent ]

          •  Sad to say, but of course you're right. (0+ / 0-)

            introducing single payer now, after all that has happened and all the opposition to things like the PO, just to give those who view it as a line in the sand a feeling of respect, will set whole the effort back. you may not want to hear that but its the truth.

            We learn to love the struggle, and fear victory-- Me, Madison Wisconsin, c. 1970

            by PhilJD on Tue Feb 09, 2010 at 03:52:55 PM PST

            [ Parent ]

        •  How would you see this working out? (0+ / 0-)

          I think that there are better paths to single payer than simple legislating it outright, and I've written to that end.

          However, I'm curious to know what this meeting would look like from your perspective.  Who would meet?  Have they already met?  What would the outcome of the meeting be?  

          People don't get up in the morning and ask, Do I want single-payer or managed competition? Wellstone

          by otto on Tue Feb 09, 2010 at 01:49:54 PM PST

          [ Parent ]

    •  I dont think single payer would even pass the (4+ / 0-)
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      wishingwell, v2aggie2, Seeds, ETF

      House.

      •  No, but showing respect for liberal dems (1+ / 0-)
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        would go a lot farther with a LOT of people I know than continuously letting Republicans have their no way no how crapfests.

        And if it never even gets introduced and backed by a president it sure as hell won't ever get passed.

        Move Your Money The truth is too big to fail. Justice is too big to fail. Peace is too big to fail.

        by Burned on Tue Feb 09, 2010 at 01:49:28 PM PST

        [ Parent ]

    •  Single payer is impossible (1+ / 0-)
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      wishingwell

      It would be the very best possible answer to simultaneously reduce costs and improve coverage; but it is not feasible. Not.gonna.happen.

      It would be a stunning victory if we got any part of a public option or expanded Medicare back on the table.

      •  Yes it would be stunning. (0+ / 0-)

        I think you and a couple of others read a little too much into my comment. lol

        I have as much faith in any republican HCR ideas as I have faith in my party of the people passing single payer.

        Zilch.

        Move Your Money The truth is too big to fail. Justice is too big to fail. Peace is too big to fail.

        by Burned on Tue Feb 09, 2010 at 02:11:09 PM PST

        [ Parent ]

  •  CSPAN should replay the hours & hours... (2+ / 0-)
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    ...of committee debate, republican amendments, votes which they won around 1/3 of the time, and stop this pathetic pandering to the false republican pretense of being locked out.

    With so many witnesses and direct evidence right on CSPAN why is the WH playing along with the lies? The Republicans have to be encouraged by this...suddenly it's even OK to start over? This smells rotten.  

    HR 676 - Health care reform we can believe in - national single-payer NOW.

    by kck on Tue Feb 09, 2010 at 01:39:44 PM PST

    •  I see the opposite, this is a chance to show (3+ / 0-)
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      the Republicans offering solutions that do not work and then the public seeing the Republicans throw tantrums and just saying NO and not working with the Democrats and acting like Asses.

      •  I could see that... (0+ / 0-)

        ...assuming no one has been paying attention for the past year. Today's polls on the fp seem to indicate people are paying attention though.

        I wear rose-colored glasses and can make lemonade out of arsenic anytime but that's how I see it.

        HR 676 - Health care reform we can believe in - national single-payer NOW.

        by kck on Tue Feb 09, 2010 at 03:32:18 PM PST

        [ Parent ]

  •  Quit offering the olive leafs (0+ / 0-)

    we dont WANT to work with the GOP.

    •  Let me give you a scenario (5+ / 0-)

      I like to play basketball.  I feel like I'm pretty good.  I've played with college players and a couple who have gone pro.  I'm not the best, I'm still pretty short, and I'm getting old.  

      However, let's say that you want to make it seem like you can beat me.  You keep saying how you'll kick my ass on the court, you keep saying that all I have to do is show up...  Yet for some reason, we never get in the same gym together.  Now you're going around talking up your game and talking about how bad you're gonna hang this whoopin' on me if we play.  

      When I show up at your gym on the day that you're playing, and when I say to you that I'm here to give you a chance to beat me, is that like bipartisanship?  

      Or is that me coming to kick your ass at basketball?

      People don't get up in the morning and ask, Do I want single-payer or managed competition? Wellstone

      by otto on Tue Feb 09, 2010 at 01:47:03 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

    •  Its olive branch, and its not a leaf or a branch (5+ / 0-)

      what he is offering, its a rope and the GOP will hang themselves with it. They are completely out of their league when it comes to this President.

      •  It's the other kind of branch (3+ / 0-)

        "I would be sent outside to "pick a switch" from a bush with which she would whip my bare legs when I brought it to her."

        (Quote from some book that satisfied my need for the phrase at the moment."

        It's that other kind of branch.  

        People don't get up in the morning and ask, Do I want single-payer or managed competition? Wellstone

        by otto on Tue Feb 09, 2010 at 02:06:10 PM PST

        [ Parent ]

  •  The Obama strategy (10+ / 0-)

    I love to speculate about strategy, so take it for what it's worth.  In my opinion, however, Obama is playing this right.

    Remember what the Republican base (and conservative independents (e.g., Tea Party)) think of Obama, right?  Obama is a Nazi, Communist, Socialist, who wants a New World Order and start concentration camps, etc.

    The story mentioned that people here, progressives, don't like the idea of bipartisanship, and I understand some of that.  But remember one thing--the Republicans like it even less.  Democrats and progressives I think (I hope) will mostly stay with the President as he tries to work with Republicans, but the Republicans know if they genuinely work with Obama they risk losing their base.

    This is part of a strategy to strip the independents from the Republican base, ultimately.  The Republicans can win Independents by working with Democrats in a bipartisan way (which, in my opinion, is the way that I think governance should work, by the way), but risk losing their base.  On the other hand, if they continue to obstruct, are rude to Obama and his socialist agenda, they will win their base, but lose independents.

    I think this is going to work.  Obama is getting ballsy now, I like it :)

    •  Yes the Independent moderate swing voters will (0+ / 0-)

      not want to vote for a party who obstructs, who whines, throws tantrums, and offers no real solutions.  

      As I hate to just say Indpendents as some of those teabaggers are right winger Independents and Lou Dobbs are right wing Indpendent types who just left the Republican party because it was not enough right wing.  

      •  Not real independents (0+ / 0-)

        At least, I don't consider them real independents.  Real independents, in my opinion, are in many cases moderates who just want the bickering to stop and for the government to accomplish something.  They hate "Party before Country", whether Republican or Democrat.  And they sure hate the "deals" that politicians make with each other.

  •  Never thought bi-partisanship meant caving to GOP (2+ / 0-)
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    Bipartisanship: During the briefing, President Obama offered his wholehearted embrace of bipartisanship, but before you go jump off a cliff, he made it clear that to him bipartisanship doesn't mean caving into Republican demands on every single issue. President Obama said bipartisanship meant finding common ground where possible, and not letting petty partisan politics get in the way of progress on important issues

    Bi-partisanship is code for caving into lobbyists and the Democrats sabotaging their own legislation but offering GOP rejection of bi-partisanship as the red herring excuse.

    When I hear Obama say "bi-partisanship" I hear Democrats making deals with lobbyists while he is talking about the GOP as if there was ever going to be a deal with them on anything.

    •  We've unfortunately been conditioned (7+ / 0-)

      It appears that there are a lot of people who have been conditioned to respond to the word "bipartisan" and not to the intent.  

      It's clear that the intent is not to accept their ideas, it's clear to me that the intent in this case is to not allow them to spew their bullshit and to make them own what they say.  

      It's why one asks questions that one already knows the answer to instead of just making the statement about what someone else believes.  

      When they have to say these things out loud to the president, they either won't, or they'll lose.  

      People don't get up in the morning and ask, Do I want single-payer or managed competition? Wellstone

      by otto on Tue Feb 09, 2010 at 01:53:22 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

  •  he's setting them up... (5+ / 0-)

    ...and when it comes time, he's gonna knock them down.

    I'm liking this tougher Obama.

    "Glenn Beck ends up looking like a fat, stupid child. His face should be wearing a chef's hat on the side of a box of eclairs. " - Doug Stanhope

    by Front Toward Enemy on Tue Feb 09, 2010 at 01:50:00 PM PST

    •  Stupid to think the GOP isn't better prepared (5+ / 0-)

      for this meeting. I'm sure Obama expects them to loaded for bear this time. This meeting will be sound bite mania.

      •  Well (3+ / 0-)
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        This is the president's strongest suit.  It is the way that he works the best.  We might think that it's better for him to chastsise Republicans up and down, but he really works best in an environment like this.  

        Regardless of how people feel about the president, I think we can agree that one of his main strengths is his ability to constructively discuss ideas with oppositional voices.  

        This is hardball, though.  So you're right when you say Republicans will be prepared.  However, they can barely get their act together to attend the meeting.  I'm going to be that there will be a lot of Republicans "out sick" on this day.  

        People don't get up in the morning and ask, Do I want single-payer or managed competition? Wellstone

        by otto on Tue Feb 09, 2010 at 01:59:34 PM PST

        [ Parent ]

      •  Oh, he knows that... (2+ / 0-)
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        I think he's scouted their learning curve, and I confident he'll be ready for it with a few surprises of his own. :)

        "Glenn Beck ends up looking like a fat, stupid child. His face should be wearing a chef's hat on the side of a box of eclairs. " - Doug Stanhope

        by Front Toward Enemy on Tue Feb 09, 2010 at 02:18:44 PM PST

        [ Parent ]

  •  transcript is much appreciated (n/t) (3+ / 0-)
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  •  All right! When he adds the bit about wrangling, (2+ / 0-)
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    what he says makes a lot more sense.

    "What I will not do, what I don’t think makes sense and I don’t think the American people want to see," he said, "would be another year of partisan wrangling around these issues; another six months or eight months or nine months worth of hearings in every single committee in the House and the Senate in which there’s a lot of posturing."

    The first I saw of this was on "the caucus" nyt and it did not include these remarks, just that he'd start from scratch if they accepted his goals. Certainly helps to have the complete transcript! I like what he's doing.

    I really don't understand how bipartisanship is ever going to work when one of the parties is insane. - John Cole

    by Gorette on Tue Feb 09, 2010 at 01:56:10 PM PST

  •  My >2 minutes of hate with Rush (2+ / 0-)
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    at lunch was hilarious (I have it on that station for our local morning liberal).  He wanted to make sure that his ditto-heads knew that Obama "hadn't had a press conference since, like, JULY!".  Wow! Even if it were true, I think that still beats Bush.  What liars these people are!

    -7.38/-6.05 If you can't be a good example, you'll just have to be a terrible warning. Anon.

    by Merry Light on Tue Feb 09, 2010 at 02:00:46 PM PST

  •  Ooo baby those sternly worded letters get me (0+ / 0-)

    all hot.  

    Really.  He doesn't have to do anything to keep me with him -- just talk that talk.

    We guarantee 40 million more customers to the insurance companies, then claim it's a good thing because the poor get a cup of coffee and a doughnut. - Jane

    by itswhatson on Tue Feb 09, 2010 at 02:01:12 PM PST

  •  BTHOM (2+ / 0-)
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    hester, otto

    The more I see this, the more I wonder what is really going on.  I hesitate to suspect as most do because it will probably be wrong anyway, and this health care struggle is depressing as it is.

    Did I mention that I am never, never, ever, voting or even thinking about voting for another republican, never, ever, ever again, not even local politicians.

    •  I can think of one republican in existance... (0+ / 0-)

      ...that I would vote for without hesitation to any local office he runs under.

      He impressed me THAT much.

      I wouldn't vote for him for national position though becuase that is not about the person, it's about the party.  And as much as I like the guy I wouldn't feel confident he'd stay impressive once the party was done with him.

      I am way too young to be this cynical.

      by DawnG on Tue Feb 09, 2010 at 02:25:01 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

  •  Recess Aopointments -- a time-honored tradition. (0+ / 0-)

    I'm not sure if there's a recent President who hasn't used them.

    If the other side won't play ball, get 'em while they're napping.

    Free speech? Yeah, I've heard of that. Have you?

    by dinotrac on Tue Feb 09, 2010 at 02:03:57 PM PST

  •  Glad you said this, less cliff jumping tonight (0+ / 0-)

    as it too damn cold and snowy in many regions to be climbing onto any cliffs to jump as with our luck, we would fall on the ice and just end up in a hospital with huge medical bills we cannot afford to pay.

    During the briefing, President Obama offered his wholehearted embrace of bipartisanship, but before you go jump off a cliff, he made it clear that to him bipartisanship doesn't mean caving into Republican demands on every single issue. President Obama said bipartisanship meant finding common ground where possible, and not letting petty partisan politics get in the way of progress on important issues

  •  Ben Nelson has no shame,,, (0+ / 0-)

    What a fucking asshole.Blocking someone who might be deemed pro labor.

    "Mr. Becker's previous statements strongly indicate that he would take an aggressive personal agenda to the NLRB, and that he would pursue a personal agenda there, rather than that of the administration," Nelson said in a statement.

    "This is of great concern, considering that the board's main responsibility is to resolve labor disputes with an even and impartial hand. In addition, the nominee's statements fly in the face of Nebraska's Right to Work laws, which have been credited in part with our excellent business climate that has attracted employers and many good jobs to Nebraska," Nelson said.

    TPM

    "Be convinced that to be happy means to be free and that to be free means to be brave." - Thucydides

    by JasperJohns on Tue Feb 09, 2010 at 02:11:40 PM PST

  •  a word for the President-- (1+ / 0-)
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    Ky DEM

    we all applaud you for trying to do the right thing. You tried to do the honorable thing, but, we all know, the GOP has no sense of honor. They think you are a fool for falling for their do nothing schemes. They don't care about America, just getting back into power. That's all there is to it. So the sooner you quit expecting those skunks to not stink, and just go on without them, the sooner America can start getting back on its feet. But remember this: America is declining and every day you try to work with the stonewalling GOP, that is another day further behind. They are never going to change. You know it and America knows it. Quit trying to bring them to the table. Give it up, let it go and move on. You don't need their poison and neither does America...

    Nothing in the world is more dangerous than a sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.--- Martin Luther King, Jr

    by azureblue on Tue Feb 09, 2010 at 02:14:30 PM PST

  •  I wish President Obama had been tougher on the (0+ / 0-)

    appointment holds.  He should have pointed out how many are in the areas of national defense and other areas that the Republicans claim to hold the high ground.  He should have said that Shelby's actions kept the country less than as safe as it should be, and perhaps Senator Shelby would like to take responsibility for any security breaches that might occur while these holds are maintained.

    Yes, I know Shelby has lifted many of the holds, but President Obama has got to be mean and tough, in that iron fist in velvet glove way.

  •  Is it my imagination (1+ / 0-)
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    wishingwell

    or has Obama decided to get tougher on Repubs this year? He really seems to be coming out and calling Repubs on stuff this year. Is that Plouffe's (Spelling?) influence?

    "If religion is the opiate of the masses, then fundamentalism is the amphetamine." Miz Vittitow

    by MillieNeon on Tue Feb 09, 2010 at 02:19:58 PM PST

  •  Am I seeing leadership here? (0+ / 0-)

    Here it comes...wait for it...wait for it...
    almost there...
    here it is...
    never mind.

  •  I want to see 70 Recess appointments !!! (1+ / 0-)
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    Ky DEM

    not a single one less. America needs a government.

  •  Gibbs instead became the story of the day (0+ / 0-)

    I'm all for making fun of Palin, but I don't think Gibbs should have.  Petty, but more important, he becomes the story, and the substance goes out the window. I didn't even know the President spoke, until I saw it here.

  •  I think Gibbs picked a fight w/ Palin on purpose (7+ / 0-)
    This reminds me of taking jabs at Limbaugh early last year.  Pick a person who is very popular in the extreme of their party yet unpopular to the country as a whole, and make them representative of who you are working against.  They had to know that the palm jab would get a lot of attention on the blogs, and especially on Fox.  I think they knew precisely what they were doing...
  •  "Bipartisanship" = The 14-letter dirty "B-word" (1+ / 0-)
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    vets74

    If the Republican'ts mend their obstructionist ways and to want play ball  in good faith, and given their history, we should expect that to happen when pigs start flying, we can call it Honest Problem Solving or something.

    Republican'ts keep talking about allowing people to buy insurance across state lines. OK, the idea is good, but doesn't the national exchange accomplish exactly that? And haven't the Republican'ts opposed national exchange during the legislative deliberations and votes? If they mean what they say about inter-state insurance system, they should then support the national exchange in large numbers. Put up, or shut up.

    One line HCR: Allow Medicare Buy-In for all. Pass it via the reconciliation process.

    by NeuvoLiberal on Tue Feb 09, 2010 at 03:18:36 PM PST

    •  GOPer obstructionism... (2+ / 0-)
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      NeuvoLiberal, ETF

      is the raison d'etre for the slow pace of Obama-Reid-Pelosi maneuvering.

      Our leadership threesome have set up a fight where the GOP either cooperate, or else get tagged as ambitious fools.

      Obama was adamant, today, that these meetings with GOP leadership will be a regular event.

      Yep....

      Angry White Males + Personality Disorder delusionals + Pro-Life Christians

      =EQ=

      The GOPer Base

      by vets74 on Tue Feb 09, 2010 at 03:55:38 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

  •  What's to Stop Repubs from Pulling a Jim Webb? (2+ / 0-)
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    Regarding recess appointments- can't they be easily thwarted by keeping the Senate "in session", like Jim Webb masterminded under Bush? They basically opened and closed a 60-second long Senate session each day thru the holidays. The Senate was therefore never in "recess."
  •  Thank you for transcript (1+ / 0-)
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    vets74
    Video is useless with my dialup. DKTV beta is good.

    ELECT BETTER POLITICIANS: NOTIFY DNCC AND INCUMBENTS, WHEN YOU DONATE AND WORK. PRAGMATIC PROGRESSIVES; THE CAT FOR CHANGE.

    by CuriousBoston on Tue Feb 09, 2010 at 03:25:31 PM PST

  •  Seems like a good place for these ::: (1+ / 0-)
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    Loose Fur

    Basis for the Minnesota billboard:

    Miss me yet

    And the odd man grinning at the thought of underwear:

    Smiley

    Angry White Males + Personality Disorder delusionals + Pro-Life Christians

    =EQ=

    The GOPer Base

    by vets74 on Tue Feb 09, 2010 at 03:44:44 PM PST

  •  Obama Protecting Military Deficit Spending Waste (0+ / 0-)

    Everybody out there who talks about deficits has to acknowledge that the single biggest driver of our deficits is health care spending

    No. The single biggest driver of our deficits is military spending. At least health care spending keeps people productive. Military spending almost entirely destroys value and productivity. Add "intelligence" spending to the military's many spending systems, and there's well over a $TRILLION each year spent destroying stuff. Lives, property, and America's (lucrative) respect and trust by others in the world.

    Obama would exclude military spending from even his "spending freeze" gimmick. And now he's pretending health care is a bigger deficit expense than the military.

    I voted for the guy who said he opposed "dumb wars". I got the guy who promotes stupidity about their cost.

    "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - HST

    by DocGonzo on Tue Feb 09, 2010 at 04:58:56 PM PST

  •  hmmm (2+ / 0-)
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    RinaX, ETF

    Instead of a focus on what we dis agree upon...
    Can we agree on these points?

    1. President Obama showing up at today's gaggle was not predicted.
    1. This issues of GOP obstruction could not have been made effectively a year ago.
    1. President Obama has a greater understanding of the real political reality in D.C. than we do.
    1. He is making visible, to folks that don't follow as closely as we do, what the GOP really is about.
    1. It is not 3 dimensional chess he is playing but basic Texas Hold'em
    1. If folks do not realize that he beat Clinton..and the powers..on all levels that tried to destroy him in the General Election? Cool.
    1. It will not be easy reversing decades dedicated to the purposeful dumbing down of America
    1. You can sing along to to this...

    http://www.youtube.com/...

    see if we can agree on these points,; this is what I call bipartisanship  

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