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In an interview, this fool conservative(who portrays to be another independent) said that the decison to spend time on Health care was a waste of Obama's first year in office.  Moreover, he says it is comparable to GW decison to invade IRAQ.  HOLY SHIT BATMAN!  Did he just compare the stupidist decision of all time(the IRAQ WAR) to HCR?  YUP!  this guy is in trouble.  Mark my words, he needs to apologize, and fast...

Join me over the jump for the quote and the WH response:

First, here is the quote:
["I sort of reject the notion that there is a communications problem with President Obama," Cook said in an interview with National Journal, when asked about the long-term damage to Democrats of the health reform effort.

"I think it's just fundamental, total miscalculations from the very, very beginning. Of proportions comparable to President George W. Bush's decision to go into Iraq. While Bush went, ‘We're going to go after Afghanistan as a reaction to 9/11,’ and then just pretty soon got distracted and obsessed with going into Iraq with varying rationalizations that sort of evolved over time."]

Hence, some Dems were taken aback at this revelation, and responded with laser guided missles to the heart of Charlie Cook(serves him right, he is a bias conservative brat)!
Here is the Democratic response:  

["Obviously, I think it’s inappropriate to compare Iraq to health care reform," said Democratic National Committee spokesman Brad Woodhouse. "Think about it. Iraq got President Bush down to a 27 percent approval rating. This week Gallup had President Obama at a 53 percent approval rating. Guess what? That was exactly the same percentage he won with in 2008. ... President Bush chose to go to war in Iraq; President Obama didn’t create the health care crisis."

Cook was unrepentant. "Yes, I think choosing to take a Captain Ahab-like approach to health care — I’m going to push for this even in the worst downturn since the Great Depression — is roughly comparable to Bush’s decision to go to war," he told me. "It basically destroyed the first year of a presidency."]

Well boys, we got ourselves a gunfight at the ok corral.  Expect this one to go down to the wire, with Mr. Cook not getting his weekly spot on Hardball, any longer.  LOL!

Originally posted to jovie131 on Fri Feb 19, 2010 at 09:07 PM PST.


Should Mr. Cook aplogize for his stupidity?

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  •  you can just tell how many trolls we have (2+ / 0-)
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    bythesea, soms

    when the poll says that so far 3 people has indicated that hcr is a bad move.  what progressive would say that???  

  •  Cook is one of those assholes... (1+ / 0-)
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    who looks at everything as meta politics and doesn't give a fuck about what happens to people.

    You got time to lean, you got time to clean.

    by gooners on Fri Feb 19, 2010 at 09:43:31 PM PST

    •  Meta-politics is his profession. (4+ / 0-)
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      LordMike, gooners, Draxinum, MrBarbo

      The Cook Political Report is regarded as the Bible of congressional district political analysis. He writes for the National Journal which is a bipartisan publication, was an aide to a Democratic senator, and on the staff of the Democratic Senate campaign committee before going out on his own. I don't see how you can infer that he doesn't care about people.

      I'm extremely progressive and I agree with Cook that the president pretty severely screwed up much of his first year in office by the incredibly poor way in which health care reform was managed by his administration. They squandered an enormous amount of time, seriously injured their image of quality leadership, and couldn't attend to other important initiatives from being bogged down in the morass.  The comparison to the Iraq war is over the top but like most pundits, he's paid to be pithy.

      "May God bless you with an understanding greater than what you're working with now."

      by Poli Sci Junkie on Fri Feb 19, 2010 at 10:22:47 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

      •  If Democrats were going to do healthcare (3+ / 0-)

        It had to be done quick.  Democrats needed to work nonstop for a month or two on it.  The August vacation should have been cancelled to work on healthcare.  If there is no healthcare bill, I dont see what Obama can run on in 2012, let alone Dems in 2010.  If a Republican was smart in 2012, they would come up with their own healthcare plan and shame Obama for not getting it done.  Mitt Romney could very well do this and many people would buy it.  

        •  I agree with your POV (1+ / 0-)
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          and living in Massachusetts, I know all too much about Mitt the shit. Romney can claim that he knows all about health care reform because he got it passed in his state when he was governor.  He can bash any Dem on health care if he gets a nomination (shudder).

          "May God bless you with an understanding greater than what you're working with now."

          by Poli Sci Junkie on Fri Feb 19, 2010 at 11:47:18 PM PST

          [ Parent ]

      •  agree, don't really get the point of diary (0+ / 0-)

        he's being over the happens...foot in mouth

        acting like he's Dick Cheney and we need to ruin him (which isn't going to happen anyway because 1) he's safe 2) no one cares) is a little head scratching

        also, like PSJ just said, Obama completely fucked himself the past year, and POLITICALLY his 2009-2010 was much worse than bush 2003-2004

  •  Cook Responds (0+ / 0-)

    First let's deal with the impartiality issue.

    Take a look at a little history.  In my National Journal and CongressDaily/AM columns, as well as in the Cook Political Report, I began warning about potential Republican debacle and Democratic wave as early as September 16, 2005 that Republicans could have a problem in the 2006 midterm elections, that while the numbers at that point didn't justify saying that Republicans would lose their House and Senate majorities, the numbers were looking very soft and we could see the possibility of another wave election (See
    "Bush Ratings Should Worry Hill GOP"

    Over the next ten months, I repeatedly, Republicans would say relentless drive home the point that Republicans were in trouble, and on August 5, 2006, wrote a column in National Journal, entitled "The Gathering Storm,"where I wrote:

    "Time is running out for Republicans. Unless something dramatic happens before Election Day, Democrats will take control of the House. And the chances that they'll seize the Senate are rising toward 50-50."  

    We were the first major independent political analysts to say this and a look at the contemporaneous blog chatter, this was hardly the conventional wisdom at that point.  In fact some liberal bloggers speculating that I was unreaslistically setting the bar too high for Democrats.

    From that point on, for the next three months, we wrote that it looked likely that Republicans would lose the House and the question was whether the Senate would flip over.

    My final pre-election column, published on November, 2006 said: "

    At this juncture, Democrats appear likely to gain 20 to 35 Houses seats -- more than the 15 they need to take control -- and perhaps far more. In the Senate, Democrats appear headed toward a net pickup of at least four seats. A six-seat gain, enough to grab the majority, is entirely possible. I doubt Democrats can add as many as seven Senate seats, but stranger things have happened. Witness the 1974, 1980, 1986, and 1994 elections.

    The final results were a Democratic net gain of 30 seats in the House and six Senate seats.

    At the time, Republicans didn't like what we were writing and certainly hoped that we were wrong and I took a few shots from the Bush White House.  But we were right.

    While there were several contributing factors to that Republican debacle, mounting deficits, a debt that went on to double under President Bush and a series of Congressional scandals, I think the biggest single factor in Republicans losing their Congressional majorities was the decision to go to war with Iraq, the end result was independent voters casting their ballots for Democrats by an 18-point margin.

    in this current, 2010 election cycle, ee began seeing problems for Democrats last summer.  First anecdotal evidence, then mounting problematic data in national polls and then in specific House and Seante races around the country.  Obviously the results of the New Jersey and Virginia gubernatorial and Massachusetts Senate race supported this narative that Democrats were in big trouble.  The fact that in the three major statewide races over the last year, and the three contested Congressional special elections (in California and New York), the Democratic nominees averaged nine percentage points below the performance of Sen. Obama in that jurisdiction further corroborated those views.

    Right now, the Democratic majority in the House is dangling by a thread.  The Senate majority is starting to look somewhat vulnerable as well, though losses in the six to eight range are far more likely than an eleven seat loss (or ten and a Lieberman party switch).

    In almost all midterm elections there are losses for the party holding the White House, a 16-seat loss in the House is the average for elected incumbents in their first-term, midterm election (the average in the Senate is actually a wash).

    Clearly Democratic losses are headed significantly worse than the average, we are currently saying a 25-35 seat loss in the House, it has been steadily increasing since early fall, and six to eight seats in the Senate.  All of the major independent election analysts (eg Rothenberg, CQ, Sabato, Silver) are predicting big losses, they just vary on the exact numbers.

    In my judgment, in the face of the worst economic downturn in the post-World War II era, embarking on huge, systemic health care reform was a collosal misjudgment.  The pollig data is very clear, since summer Americans have wanted a focus on the economy and jobs, indeed a recent Gallup Poll showed that 60 percent of Americans did not feel that President Obama had spent enough time on dealing with the economy and jobs.

    In 1992, when Gov. and presidential candidate Bill Clinton said that if elected, he would "focus on the economy like a laser beam."  Obviously that is what voters wanted last year and President Obama and Congressional Democrats are not perceived as having focused on the economy like a laser beam.

    If President Obama and Congressional Democrats expended the energy, focus and effort on the economy that they did on health care, their numbers would not be nearly as bad as they are today.

    A huge political miscalculation.

    I am all for major helath care reform and significant climate change.  It is true that there is never a good time to tackle these challenges and I certainly understand the argument that a new president needs to strike while the iron is hot.  But just because no year is easy, some years are harder than others and still others are virtually impossible.  

    In this political and economic climate, the kind of big reform wasn't possible.  The result is likely to be devastating losses in November for Democrats, just as Republicans suffered devastating losses in November 2006 after President Bush's fateful miscalculation on Iraq.  Republicans might well have had losses in 2006, but likely would have retained their majorities.  

    Next month, the Cook Political Report will turn 26 years old and will have covered a lot of elections.  When a party or ideological side is having a bad time, they often blame the refs.  I am a big boy, I can take it. But it is fascinating to me to read some of these commenters and see the delusion that goes through some people's minds, refusing to acknowledge that their side has made a mistake and that they may suffer huge losses as a consequence.    

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