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Cross posted at Plunderbund.

John Boehner makes it perfectly clear that no matter how many GOP ideas the White House incorporates, the Republicans are interested in seeing it defeated in ANY form, even as he admits that most Republicans agree with most of the bill (and yet, he didn't mentioned what these points were as a starting point in the recent health care summit.  I know, Boehner, disingenuous?  I'm stunned, too!)

From the Hamilton Pulse-Journal:

While Boehner said there are about eight to 10 points in the current health care legislation most Republicans agree with, he said Congress and the president need to find more common ground and not just "have some Republican crumbs sprinkled on top."

Boehner claims that the biggest area of disagreement is a mandate to buy insurance and fining businesses who fail to provide health insurance.

Boehner, who once said that the health care bill would "virtually eliminate Medicare Advantage" (that was, of course, untrue according to the CBO) and publicly decried the cuts in Medicare in the health care bill wants to balance the the budget:

Noting that legislators were able to balance the budget in the latter Clinton years, Boehner said following the event Monday that he believed spending got out of hand after Sept. 11 , when large funds were expended for the Department of Homeland Security and to fight in Iraq and Afghanistan.

However, he said none of these three areas could afford to lose funding and said he would rather see cuts made to three "entitlement programs" — Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security.

"I think they are important programs, but they aren’t sustainable in the long-term," he said. "We need to figure out ways to control that spending."

Boehner specifically cited concerns involving Medicare, which he said would "swell to levels I can’t imagine" as more baby boomers start to retire.

Now John Boehner wants to cut Medicare and Social Security.  Sounds like Boehner is signing up on Paul Ryan’s radical budget.

Originally posted to ohdemvoter on Tue Mar 02, 2010 at 04:27 PM PST.

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  •  Tip Jar (8+ / 0-)

    Paid staffer for the Jennifer Brunner Committee. Let's get Brunner elected to the U.S. Senate!

    by ohdemvoter on Tue Mar 02, 2010 at 04:27:19 PM PST

  •  John Boehner some reminds me of an (1+ / 0-)
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    insect that's learned to talk:  not many words, mind you, but has learned to talk.

    Oh, yes, and get an artificial tan.

  •  Elections have consequences (7+ / 0-)

    Why didn't the GOP push for HCR in the eight Bush years if it was so important to them?  Because the GOP and their benefactors like the status quo.  

    And Boehner why didn't you insist on paying for the Iraq and Afghan wars instead of forcing our grandchildren to pay for it?  Why all the concern about paying for things now but NONE during the Bush years?

    Politics is like playing Asteroids - You go far enough to the left and you end up on the right. Or vice-versa.

    by Jonze on Tue Mar 02, 2010 at 04:40:29 PM PST

  •  how's his orange tan holding up? (1+ / 0-)
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  •  How many Bush Administration Bills... (1+ / 0-)
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    Did Democrats have a major or even any say in?  I'd love for Boehner to point out legislation where he went out of his way to get Democratic ideas and support when he didn't need it...

    Politics is like playing Asteroids - You go far enough to the left and you end up on the right. Or vice-versa.

    by Jonze on Tue Mar 02, 2010 at 04:45:06 PM PST

  •  They should strip every one of those things out (0+ / 0-)

    and get a really good bill ready.  Tell the goopers that if they want to come on board we'll keep some of the things they want, if not, then the thing gets passed with as little of their input as possible.  Keep it up, make all filibusters real by continuous motions to force a vote and start playing some hardball.

    Oh, the alarm clock just went off and I realize the corporate dems that I have on my side are marginally better than goopers....never mind, back to sleep.

    They've got Charles Darwin trapped out there on highway 5" Bob Dylan

    by NearlyNormal on Tue Mar 02, 2010 at 04:46:55 PM PST

  •  Someone ought to remind Boner (3+ / 0-)
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    that the reason we went from surplus to deficit in the first place was a result of massive tax cuts for the wealthiest few.  It was then driven into the realm of absurdity by fighting two wars without making any changes on the revenue side.  Now we need to spend in order to fight the recession, but the only way to fix things in the long term is to reverse what has changed since Clinton AND fix what was still broken when he left office, namely healthcare including medicare.

    Certainly from our standpoint, this gives us a sense of momentum -- when the United States has accolades tossed its way, rather than shoes. - PJ Crowley

    by nsfbr on Tue Mar 02, 2010 at 04:50:26 PM PST

    •  Yes, and he tipped the Republican position when (0+ / 0-)

      he suggested we should try to rebalance the deficits b cutting Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security, instead of by reducing military spending and letting the Bush tax cuts for the very wealthy expire.

      Democrats should take the opposite position, which will mean we need to get serious about examining the military budget from top to bottom.

      We may have to bite the bullet and ask if we should continue to station troops in Europe when the collective EU GDP is larger than the US economy and the former USSR has collapsed.

      The original threat of a Soviet tank blitzkieg accross Europe are remote.  But, once military spending is in place it is almost impossible to reduce it.  

      But, if wars in Afghanistan and Iraq are so important we should make the prioritization and hard choices.

      PS Before folks point out that we're scheduled to be out of Iraq by August, let me note that this promise refers only to combat troops.  I suspect we continue to pay expenditures for contractors, trainers, advisors, and other forms of economic aid.  Has anyone seen ten year budget projections for the components of military expenditure?

      The means is the ends in the process of becoming. - Mahatma Gandhi

      by HoundDog on Tue Mar 02, 2010 at 07:01:05 PM PST

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  •  hey, ohdemvoter (0+ / 0-)

    what is your email address?  i'd like to get a candidate diary series kind of thing going.  mine is in my profile.

    People are upset Obama hasn't solved all the problems yet. C'mon, he's only been in office one year...the man went to Harvard, not Hogwarts. - Wanda Sykes

    by Cedwyn on Tue Mar 02, 2010 at 04:51:23 PM PST

  •  he needs to keep talking (1+ / 0-)
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    and repeat that he will cut social security and medicare regularly between now and November.  Everyday would be good.

    •  This would be even more powerful if Democrats (0+ / 0-)

      would reiterate our intent to protect these, which we haven't done.  In fact, part of the controversy surrounding the special bipartison commission is that Democrats are willing to put these on the table.

      IMO we should repeal the massive Bush era tax cuts, and Pentagon increases before even considering something that may be viewed as as betrayal by seniors and Medicare recipients.

      The Senate has already alarmed seniors by note passing the Doctors Fix for Medicare right up to the March 1 deadline.

      The means is the ends in the process of becoming. - Mahatma Gandhi

      by HoundDog on Tue Mar 02, 2010 at 07:05:01 PM PST

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      •  I agree (0+ / 0-)

        I understand everything on the table as a negotiating tactic, but in this case, everything is not on the table.  The military must be part of the consideration.   There is no reason other than pork for various powerful industry players that cuts in the military can't be made.

  •  Hey Modern (0+ / 0-)

    someone from Brunner's campaign is on dk now.
    I don' know if you can comment now, or can make reference to it on plunder.

    To paraphrase Warren Ballentine: "We may have come here in separate boats but we're in the same one now"

    by OHknighty on Thu Mar 04, 2010 at 09:26:53 AM PST

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