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So, Americans are beginning to vote over the internet in a big way:

33 states & millions of votes

Don't worry about it. Nothing could possibly go wrong. This cycle there will be about 3 million internet votes mixed into the system. That's just for starters. Your government "of the people, by the people, and for the people" has nothing to worry about with this.

The problems with computer voting machines have been discussed and debated. Many of the same problems apply to internet voting.

It's easy to hack.

The unanimous nature of voting can't be guaranteed.

It's another aspect of your privacy that goes into the crapper.

It is very easy for power-hungry, globalist fascist sorts to steal an election.

Every election.

Originally posted to Otherday on Tue May 11, 2010 at 03:09 PM PDT.

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  •  Tip Jar (4+ / 0-)

    Greenspan admits his free market faith was "a mistake" - Reliance on self interest creates a flaw "in how the world works."

    by Otherday on Tue May 11, 2010 at 03:09:19 PM PDT

  •  My Mom Runs Elections In Her District (2+ / 0-)
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    Kingsmeg, Otherday

    She is a Republican. But she is very proud that EVERYBODY in her district gets to vote. Every vote counts. There is nothing she is more proud of then everybody gets to vote. and every vote counts.

    When I bitched about the first Gore/Bush election and sent her links to articles she said if she saw any of that stuff she would have picked up the phone and called in the state police.

    I often joke that I know there is one district in this nation where every vote is counted.

    "In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

    by webranding on Tue May 11, 2010 at 03:16:39 PM PDT

    •  My mom too. (1+ / 0-)
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      MyLifeInKenya

      She's also a Republican. Has been an election judge for 30 years in Minnesota. No funny business.

      Such people are in no position to stop any funny business when it comes to internet or computer voting fraud.

      Greenspan admits his free market faith was "a mistake" - Reliance on self interest creates a flaw "in how the world works."

      by Otherday on Tue May 11, 2010 at 04:09:20 PM PDT

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  •  Holy crap ... (2+ / 0-)
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    DRo, MyLifeInKenya

    Voting by email?

    There's so much wrong with that I can't even begin to catalog it all ...

    Right off the bat I can think of a bunch of man-in-the-middle attacks to flip votes.  The email protocol just wasn't designed for this.

    He took a duck in the face at two hundred and fifty knots.

    by jrooth on Tue May 11, 2010 at 03:57:12 PM PDT

  •  HR'd for assuming my head is pretty (2+ / 0-)
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    debedb, Kingsmeg

    Always make new mistakes - Esther Dyson

    by RandomActsOfReason on Tue May 11, 2010 at 04:19:10 PM PDT

  •  Could be done.... (0+ / 0-)

    A purchase charged anywhere posted in nanoseconds to the proper account and the item purchased info is immediately sold to multiple marketers, linked back to the purchaser.  (Only because there's profit in it.)  

    But, I would not trust the corporations who would get the contracts for development as far as I could throw them.

    •  Those running it belong to the highest bidder. (4+ / 0-)
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      Kingsmeg, Betty Pinson, DRo, MyLifeInKenya

      I wouldn't put a coin into a slot machine at any casino for much the same reasons. The house will win. There's no way of knowing whether the machine is "fixed" or not.

      Greenspan admits his free market faith was "a mistake" - Reliance on self interest creates a flaw "in how the world works."

      by Otherday on Tue May 11, 2010 at 04:29:02 PM PDT

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  •  Slippery slope (1+ / 0-)
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    Otherday

    There's no way to make it tamper-proof, but most members of Congress don't have the technical skills to fully understand it.  If the lobbyists convince them to allow it for overseas voting, they'll show their usual lack of spine and allow it for stateside voting as well.

    Stupid is as stupid does.

    "Private health insurers always manage to stay one step ahead of the sheriff." Sen. Sherrod Brown

    by Betty Pinson on Tue May 11, 2010 at 06:58:56 PM PDT

    •  Note that there was no discussion about this. (0+ / 0-)

      I live in Oregon. We have a vote-by-mail system. It appears to work just fine - very high voter participation and little/no complaints about problems. Yet, there's a lively discussion here and in other states about the wisdom of a vote-by-mail election. That's good. Debate, discussion and decision is how we are supposed to do things.

      Compare that approach to this internet voting reality. It's a done deal. The military led the way. No discussion in the public square whether it's a good idea, whether we should trust those global corporations to run a fair election. Silence, right? What's with that?

      Greenspan admits his free market faith was "a mistake" - Reliance on self interest creates a flaw "in how the world works."

      by Otherday on Wed May 12, 2010 at 11:11:58 AM PDT

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