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While we all have been paying rapt attention to the situation in the Gulf of Mexico, and with good reason to do so, another "hot spot" in the world may soon be on the horizon. Korea!!!

Today, the "leadership" in North Korea suspended all ties with the South and according to unnamed reports are readying their 1.2 million man army to get ready for combat, so says the report filed by the BBC.

Yes, the North Koreans may once again be playing "chicken" with the world, but is Kim-Jong-Il crazy enough to take his last days on Earth,embroiled in a real live dispute with the South, the US and China? Let's hope not, but the South is damn angry about the sinking of the Cheonan on March 26, and want action taken NOW!!!

Il, not a sane man to begin with, may figure out, what the hell do I have to lose and start an international incident fraught with peril and no good endings for all sides involved. Right now, the South Koreans are talking tough, the North is talking war, the US is talking to the Chinese and the Chinese ain't saying much at all.

We all know that an all-out war between the North and South would go very badly for all sides involved and, M*A*S*H repeats not withstanding, no one wants to see a rehash of the Korean Conflict. I think???

Originally posted to demswin06 on Tue May 25, 2010 at 10:30 AM PDT.


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  •  The drumd are certainly beating (2+ / 0-)
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    defluxion10, coffejoe

    If Drudge is still the bellwether for the GOP agenda, its clear the Powers that Be want a new distraction.

  •  Is Kim Jong-il (2+ / 0-)
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    Even in power any more?

    We know that his health has been declining for quite some time.  Possibly power has passed to the leaders of the North Korean armed forces, who of course are likely to see everything as a zero-sum military confrontation.

    Needless to say, what has recently happened is not entirely outside North Korea's modus operandi.  The difference, of course, is that North Korea now has its own little nuclear deterrent, in addition to a massive army (for its size) and a political, economic, and military structure geared for the prospect of making war on South Korea.

    North Korea would, of course, ultimately lose any 2nd Korean War badly; but in the process it could unleash untold havoc on millions of Koreans.

  •  My understanding is that . . . (4+ / 0-)

    the big issue is that Kim Jong-il is badly weakened and that the new generation of military leaders are more hawkish than their predecessors (who had memories of the Korean Conflict).

    Throw into the mix the more confrontational approach by South Korean President Lee and you get escalation.

    A fair amount here hinges on China.  In the event of a war, North Korea likely falls very quickly (after a high body count in the first phase on both sides).  For China that could mean an influx of refugees who are extremely poor, and the elimination of a buffer state.  China is playing games right now.  

    However, my sense is that if this starts looking more like war and less like posturing, then China will try to reign the North Koreans in.  There's an open question about how much control China actual has over North Korea.  My sense is that they probably have something close to a veto.  

    The secondary concern is whether the U.S. and China could be drawn into the conflict on opposite sides as a reprise of what happened after WWII.  I think this is probably even more unlikely, but clearly the situation is a major flashpoint right now.

    •  I say we let China try (1+ / 0-)
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      to reign them much as everyone thinks war helps ecomonically it only helped after WWII because we Europe was blitzed and we were the main manufacturing. China has a lot to stake here and a lot of money we don't....If N. Korea has 1.2 million for an army they don't need our already taxed out military.

      How much pain have cost us the evils which have never happened. Thomas Jefferson

      by coffejoe on Tue May 25, 2010 at 11:45:10 AM PDT

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    •  The Russian generals wanted to bomb us in 62 (1+ / 0-)
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      But Krushchev wouldn't let them. I've heard that's why they ousted him.

      "All politics is national."

      by Auriandra on Tue May 25, 2010 at 10:58:45 PM PDT

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  •  Kim is ill, (0+ / 0-)

    maybe dying, and a total psycho, who would perhaps risk more than in the past. Everyone involved should act with caution. I don't like the idea of placating a vile dictatorship, but as an alternative to war...?

    "God is an iron" -Spider Robinson

    by oldcrow on Tue May 25, 2010 at 10:55:29 AM PDT

  •  It's up to China. n/t (2+ / 0-)
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  •  Another Korean War is not the answer. Some of (2+ / 0-)
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    Hillary's comments made me nervous. We most need to work with the Chinese on this to try to defuse the situation. I don't think anyone else has enough influence with the North. I just hope they do.

    I believe that in every country the people themselves are more peaceably and liberally inclined than their governments. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt

    by Blue Knight on Tue May 25, 2010 at 11:07:57 AM PDT

  •  Obama has his plate full right now... (2+ / 0-)
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    War in Korea is a very real possibility - and last I heard they have nukes and are probably crazy enough to use them.  I wondered why there hadn't been a diary about this yet.

    The oil spill is horrible but war with Korea is worse believe it or not.  I would imagine our President has been bogged down in meetings with the Joint Chiefs and etc.

    •  Hi I just read your diary titled The Truth abt BP (0+ / 0-)

      Wow. I think you should consider offering this information to someone on the investigation commission. I can understand that you might not want to risk it, but I hope you might think about it. I know it's easy for me to say... But that BP was known as being so extraordinarily lax needs to come to the attention of the commission. Olbermann had a retired Shell exec on (John Hofmeister) tonight who kind of hints at problems but doesn't know their extent or doesn't want to say.
      I have to add that this catastrophe has made me fully aware of what a remarkable source of information daily kos is. After all these years of firmly believing that Dems are the good guyS, I now know it based on the many excellent diaries like yours. Thank you!

      "All politics is national."

      by Auriandra on Tue May 25, 2010 at 10:25:57 PM PDT

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      •  PS Sorry to be off topic but comments are over (0+ / 0-)

        On your original post. I agree abt Korea. I think it's a reason Obama has been a little out of view. He's doing something he's good at - multitasking.

        "All politics is national."

        by Auriandra on Tue May 25, 2010 at 10:34:15 PM PDT

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  •  I've figured that when Kim knows his time is near (0+ / 0-)

    that he will embrace Gotterdammerung,now the only Question is will his Generals follow his orders like Hitler's did or snuff him and sign a Peace Treaty with the first side that doesn't kill them on sight.Just think as the Russians head toward Berlin and Hitler enters The Bunker on Jan 16 '45 if Germany's Generals had killed him by 1/18/45(at this time Yalta hadn't happened and wouldn't happen)and surrendered Germany,Germany's Possession in Eastern Europe and Berlin by 1/25/45 to The USA and British forces under the stipulation that the Russian forces stop attacking and to give all military forces of Germany over to The US and British Military so that they in effect become Armies Unit of Britain and The USA so that if the Russians don't stop their attack they would then be attacking Military Forces of The USA and Britain,something the USA would want to do cause they didn't want Russia to have anymore of Eastern Europe and Germany than they already had.Now why this little jaunt down a "What-if of WW2" path well maybe a North Korean General who has to read Western Blogs is reading this comment and gets the hint about following a Crazed Leader to your Doom or remove the Crazed Leader and get the best deal possible before it's to late.

    •  Without fear of contradiction (0+ / 0-)

      I think I can confidently say that no North Korean in North Korea is reading this blog.

      North Korea has no broadband and severely limited satellite access; the few people who are allowed to use the internet will probably be intelligence agents who are going to be gathering information of military significance, particularly about South Korea.

      They're not going to be bothering with American political blogs.

      •  They're not reading for fun they are the ones (1+ / 0-)
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        in the Military who's job is to know what's going on in Cyberspace and those reports get seen by the higher ups and those are the one or ones I'm hoping gets the hint from everyone's dairies and comment and other websites to have "Kim pass away quietly in his Sleep".

  •  Huge ego and a million soldiers and the bomb (0+ / 0-)

    That's what makes for wars. My son is in the reserves. Sheeeit. Well Maybe that's why they didn't send them all to the spill site like he he thought they might.

    "All politics is national."

    by Auriandra on Tue May 25, 2010 at 10:51:21 PM PDT

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