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From Day One, the Right has been turning hand-springs to try and make the BP Oil-Tastrophe either the fault of The Left (with specters of Greenpeace SCUBA SWAT Teams with explosives in the night) or offering ill-thought comparisons with the 2005 Hurricane Katrina Disaster.

But I think all of this ignores who the clear and obvious villains are in this situation, and the fact that we brought them to the party ourselves - and now we have no one else left to dance with.

The Deep Water Horizon Disaster IS A CRIME - quite possibly the absolute worse and most wide-ranging criminal disaster this nation, and potentially The WORLD may ever see. Although stopping the leak is paramount, and minimizing the long term ecological and health effects is critical we need to start seriously chanting ... "Never Again!"

Then we need to follow that chant with some actions.

The behavior of the Right has been typically psychotic.

Let's take  Karl Rove who says this is "Obama's Katrina".  

Obama officials have it backwards: They talk tough about BP's responsibilities but do not meet their own responsibilities under federal law. They should not have let more than a month go by without telling BP what to do. And they should avoid recriminations against their partner in solving the problem until after the leak is sealed.

Interior Secretary Ken Salazar sounds whiney when he rails against BP. It didn't build confidence when his opening statement to a congressional hearing Wednesday focused on future safety and inspections requirements, and not on what the administration will do now to end the leak.

Could this be Mr. Obama's Katrina? It could be even worse.

Even those on the relative Left have been tossing Obama under the Bus proclaiming this is a referendum on the effectiveness of government. ala Frank Rich.

Now Obama is stuck between a rock and a Tea Party. His credibility as a champion of reformed, competent government is held hostage by video from the gulf. And this in an election year when the very idea of a viable federal government is under angrier assault than at any time since the Gingrich revolution and militia mobilization of 1994-5 and arguably since the birth of the modern conservative movement in the 1960s.

So Government can't be trusted because Obama hasn't meet his "responsibilities under federal law" - the same way that Bush didn't?

That's an interesting view since going out the Door Bush whined "Nothing Went Wrong With Katrina".  

Bush: You know, people said that the federal response was slow. Don’t tell me the federal response was slow when there was 30,000 people pulled off roofs right after the storm passed.

(Right, sure, and just what did you do with those 30,000 people after the roof top rescues?? NOTHING! Which is the point Chimpass!)

And that's funny too because I remember John Gibson (who was FIRED by Fox News) saying that the Left had "Swiftboated Bush" over Katrina.

"They were lying through their teeth and they got away with it," Gibson told the hosts of Fox & Friends on Wednesday morning -- referring not not to the Swift Boat Veterans but to Democrats and liberals who portrayed Bush as incompetent and indifferent.

It took Fox host Steve Doocy to make the connection explicit. "They looked at the game plan that the Republicans and the Swiftboaters did back against Kerry," Doocy suggested, "and they said, 'Okay, it worked.'"

Rove for example claims that Bush's "Hands were tied" in Katrina by Federal Law.

The federal response to Katrina was governed by the 1988 Stafford Act, which says that in natural disasters on-shore states are in charge, not Washington.

But BP's well was drilled in federal waters. Washington, not Louisiana, is in charge. This is Mr. Obama's responsibility. He says his administration has been prepared for the worst from the start. Mr. Obama's failure to lead in cleaning up the spill could lead voters to echo his complaint in Katrina's aftermath: "I wish that the federal government had been up to the task."

(This ignores the simple fact that under the Stafford act once a Disaster Has Been Declared Federal Assistance becomes available - and the President is responsible for providing that assistance not the state - and Katrina was declared a disaster even before the Hurricane made Landfall and the Levees broke, but let's not belabor that right now)

If Bush was really "so wronged" by the Left  for not getting food and water to the Superdome for days, does that mean that John Kerry - the Original Swiftboat Victim - "Did Nothing Wrong" in Vietnam, and that the Right just made up a bunch of Lies about him simply for Political Gain back then?  

Oh golly gee Willickers?  You mean all those purpleheart band-aids were actually an smarmy insult to an Actual American War Hero and assault on the sacrifices and integrity of our troops?

Heaven Forfend!

If Kerry was "Swiftboated" and therefore if this is "Obama's Katrina" and Katrina was "Bush's Swiftboating" - doesn't that mean the ROVE AND THE RIGHT ARE USING THIS DISASTER TO SWIFTBOAT OBAMA!!

You're Damn SKippy they are.

Is Rove suggesting that what Obama has failed to do is Seize Physical Control BP's Equipment and Technology - toss their technicians out and just plug in somebody else who would have to do on the job training in the middle of a growing disaster?  That would be just brilliant.

The problem that Obama faces is technological and proprietary in that the U.S. Military isn't in the Drilling 5,000 Feet Below the Ocean Business - they're in the Blow Shit UP Business.  Exactly what a Nuclear Submarine might do to cap the well, no one seems to be able to answer.  We don't have an Underwater N.A.S.A.
So unfortunately we've had to rely largely on the hardware and expertise the initial perpetrator in this crime, BP.

And lets make no bones about it, Katrina was a natural disaster compounded with an engineering error followed by lackadaisical indifference - but This was and is an ongoing Crime.

Under Obama Federal Officials are doing their job by looking seriously at Prosecuting BP

Reporting from Washington — — A team of top federal prosecutors and investigators has taken the first steps toward a formal criminal investigation into oil giant BP's actions before and after the drilling rig disaster off Louisiana.

The investigators, who have been quietly gathering evidence in Louisiana over the last three weeks, are focusing on whether BP skirted federal safety regulations and misled the U.S. government by saying it could quickly clean up an environmental accident.

Keeping a "Boot on BP's Neck" is rather like having the criminal lead you back to the Crime Scene and help dig up the bodies.  They did the crime, they know where the bodies are - we don't.  And there are a whole lot of things buried in this situation...

BP claimed they knew how to stop a leak like this, even this far down, when they applied for the permits. BP LIED.  BP claimed that they had procedures in place to prevent this kind of disaster - BP LIED.

Some are beginning to argue that BP may even be guilty of (Ecological) Terrorism.

I read with growing outrage that several Greenpeace protesters were arrested the other day in Louisiana. What was their crime? They painted an anti-offshore drilling message on the side of an oil exploration ship.  [...]  To compound the injustice, a parish officer said that they might be charged as terrorists.

Meanwhile, the CEO of BP is treated as a privileged member of the wealthy ruling elite as he chronically lies about his company’s latest act of crime against the earth and its inhabitants, as well as other living creatures of the sea and planet. But whether it’s BP, Wall Street, or Wal-Mart, global corporations know that crimes committed on a massive scale don’t get prosecuted; they are just a statistic that goes unchallenged by the paid-off elected officials and regulators in D.C. [...]

We have evolved into an oligarchy that considers cost savings and profit ahead of lives and the preservation of our earth. [...]

Could a terrorist do more harm than BP has done?

That's right, Greenpeace protesters might be charged as "terrorist" for Graffiti For PAINTING A MESSAGE - essentially for tagging! ( Couldn't they just use some Corexit on that tag and call it even?)

Isn't the DeepWater Horizon Catastrophe doing damage that al Qeada could only dream of?

And that's just talking about the Oil Spill itself, add to that the potential damage of spraying hundreds of thousands of gallons of Corexit 9500 into the Gulf, a substance which becomes three times as toxic when mixed with Oil.

Add to that the fact that BP has been threatening to FIRE any Fishermen - whose livelihoods they've already destroyed - who use their own protective respirators while doing spill cleanup work.

Clint Guidry - Louisiana Fishermen's Association: I bought respirators, and I brought them down to these people. And when they tried to wear them, the BP representatives on site told them that it wasn’t a dangerous situation, and they didn’t need to wear them, and if they did, they would be taken off the job.

So BP is not only putting the Fish and the Wildlife at risk, they're deliberately putting their own employees health at greater risk - even when it costs them nothing - simply because admitting that the risk might exist, might mean they could be held Liable and Accountable for it.

This is why they didn't bother to use the right kind of drilling mud, and they didn't bother to drill a relief well - as countries like Canada and Europe require - to cut costs and limit their liability.  This may be why BP has been low-balling the size and impact of the Spill from DAY ONE, claiming at first that only 1,000 Barrels-a-day were spilling, only to have that corrected and upgraded to 5,000 Barrels, and now 12,000-19,000 Barrels.

This kind of wild mis-estimate may not be the only one on BP's part, there just might be an elephant hiding behind the mouse of a spill they've been focused on so far.

Here's a telling tweet I saw yesterday...

@BorowitzReport Bin Laden sees what BP's done, and he's like, "Man, I've got to step up my game."

Yeah, it's like that.

George Lakoff doesn't think Obama has yet pounded home the deeper moral narrative of what has truly occurred here and what needs to occur.

The following "shoulds" are not mine. They follow naturally from President Obama’s own values as he articulated them is his 2008 campaign, and as they leaked out, largely unnoticed, during his press conference.

The president recognizes that financial reform requires dealing with systemic risk, which means not mere regulation, but restructuring the financial system to minimize, and if possible eliminate, systemic risk. Applying the analogy to oil spills, it would mean no more deep-water drilling because major systemic risks ("worst case scenarios") cannot be eliminated when you drill starting a mile down where no human being can go and drilling three miles deeper.

Like other large corporations, BP uses cost-benefit analysis to maximize profits. It is no surprise that, to save money, BP chose inferior materials in Deepwater Horizon, materials whose defects may well have caused the explosion. The use of cost-benefit analysis for a corporation’s benefit (and not the public’s) is a dangerous practice in many industries.  Cost-benefit analysis itself, used this way, should be considered as an important component of systemic risk by the President’s commission on safety.

What were seeing here will not be a referendum on the Obama Presidency, or his effectiveness as leader no matter how those on the left or right would like to see it that way. IMO this will ultimately be a referendum on Selfish Corporate Bullshit.

There isn't a Oil Company that has gone further out of it's way to advance it's Green and Ecological Bona Fides than BP.  Their damn Logo is a Flower for Christ's Sake.  Yet when the rubber meets the road they leave a 100 Mile Skid Mark of Oil & Corexit across the Gulf of Mexico.

Look at the Guif, look at the shoreline of Louisiana, Texas and soon Florida.  Look at the Death Plumes Beneath the Water's surface.

This is what the Precious, Sacred, "Infallible" Free Market Hath Wrought.

Corporations aren't inherently evil, but when their only priority and fiduciary duty is to protecting the profit of their stockholders by reducing liability and accountability while increasing risk - they can certain become amoral.  They're own natural tendency is to askew the pointing finger of a moral compass.  They use secrecy, denial and Non-Disclosure Agreements backed with armies of Corporate Lawyers intent on ensuring they're never blamed or held responsible for anything until it's far too late and it becomes so damn big you can see it from Space - and it just can't be hidden anymore.

BP problems didn't begin with the leak, the leak is just a symptom of their rotting internal disease of amorality.

This amorality isn't just on Wall Street, it's not just halls of BP or offices of Massey Mining, or Blackwater/Xe or KBR or Wackenhut - it's something that exists deep in our culture, and just as 9/11 was a hard and cold wake-up call that the world as we knew it was suddenly, swiftly transformed into something completely different - so should we take heed of the Economic Terrorist Attack that was fostered by Goldman Sachs, AIG and Lehman, as much we now watch the Ecological Terrorism of BP, Transocean and Halliburton unfold.

We have to stop the leak, difficult though that may be.  We have to clean up the spill, also a difficult task.  Unlike Rich I don't that's an question of "If" only "When" -- but after that we need to start looking at the root cause of these acts of blatant myopic irresponsibility and ravenous greed.

Making money is a great thing, but when you're already breaking profit records and still need so much more, and more that you drive yourself and the nation right off a cliff - I think, as Obama himself stated, "You don't get the Keys back".

The possibility of Taking BP Down, revoking their corporate Charter and banning the entire company from our shores, needs to be on the table.  There have to be consequences.  Companies like this have to be shown the error of their ways like shoving a dog's nose in their own shit pile.  We have to take a "Smoke 'em out of their Boardrooms" - "Wanted Divested or Alive" attitude about this.

It's time to re-empower the Corporate Cops.

EPA, SEC, OSHA and MMS should be under the same ethics rules and garner the same respect (and yes, fear) as the FBI, Homeland Security and ATF. The idea of their officers taking gifts and jobs from the people their investigating should be taken as deadly seriously as an FBI agent taking presents from John Gotti.

It's time to reverse decades of atrophy and decay that has crept into the muscles and bones of the people's representative and their enforcement agents to look out for the public good, not just some fatcat's wallet.

The reason I compare this to 9/11, isn't because of the potential casualty count (which I believe in the end will be greater in the long run - more like Chernobyl), it's because 9-11 supposedly "changed everything", we committed ourselves to two separate Wars on Terror - maybe it's time to commit ourselves to a War on Indifferent Corporate Error!

It's time for us to say again as we did that September Day - "Never Again!... Never Again!... Never Again!"

Vyan

Originally posted to Vyan on Sun May 30, 2010 at 10:34 AM PDT.

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      Place saver as I want to come back and read this more closely.  Looks like some nuggets of gold in there.

      •  This is a Corporate Pearl Harbor. (2+ / 0-)
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        The differences are significant:

        -- Nobody committed suicide.

        -- The form of attack was very well known prior to execution.

        -- Corporate "diplomats" had been in Washington just weeks earlier to assure the President that the situation was safe and there's nothing to worry about.

        -- There's no ideology or religion involved. Just resources and power and money.

        -- This is a sneak attack, but not carried out for terrorism. The attack and immediate follow up action have caused massive collateral damage.

        Also, of course, the Gulf attack happened on the 121st anniversary of Hitler's birthday.

        April 20th -- a day that will live in infamy.

        Add BP, Halliburton and Transoceanic to the list of Axis Powers and be done with it.

        BTW: the Japs killed 2,402 Americans at Pearl. Before this is over the poisons in the Gulf will kill ten times that many Americans plus a shitload of Cubans and Mexicans.

        Pearl Harbor II. Not the natural event, Katrina. Not the terror cell madness of 9/11.

        Angry White Males + Personality Disorder delusionals + Career criminals + White Racists + Pro-Life Christians =EQ= The GOPer Base

        by vets74 on Sun May 30, 2010 at 06:58:36 PM PDT

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    •  Undone by hyperbole (1+ / 0-)
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      There are lots of good points here, but among other things, would love to see the comparisons to 9/11 removed.   But it's not just that.  

      The "never again" phrase is actually most commonly associated with the Holocaust rather than 9/11.  So you invoke a phrase that brings to mind the Holocaust then you call this oil disaster the "most wide-ranging criminal disaster the world has ever seen."  Really?  It's hyperbole obscuring some otherwise valid points.

      It's the typical blogger conundrum - the valid points get undone by the excessive use of hyperbole in the writing, thereby obscuring the path to the good points themselves.

      This is what it is.  It's not Katrina.  It's not 9/11.  It's not the Holocaust.  Not one of those comparisons is valid - so debunking one while bringing up the others is a real shame.

      I'm shocked to learn that 1 in 12 Americans do not know that the bird, is in fact, that word.

      by dansac on Sun May 30, 2010 at 01:05:35 PM PDT

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      •  dansac, right here at the end it's RIGHT (12+ / 0-)

        to use this level of outrage:

        It's time to re-empower the Corporate Cops.

        EPA, SEC, OSHA and MMS should be under the same ethics rules and garner the same respect (and yes, fear) as the FBI, Homeland Security and ATF. The idea of their officers taking gifts and jobs from the people their investigating should be taken as deadly seriously as an FBI agent taking presents from John Gotti.

        It's time to reverse decades of atrophy and decay that has crept into the muscles and bones of the people's representative and their enforcement agents to look out for the public good, not just some fatcat's wallet.

        The reason I compare this to 9/11, isn't because of the potential casualty count (which I believe in the end will be greater in the long run - more like Chernobyl), it's because 9-11 supposedly "changed everything", we committed ourselves to two separate Wars on Terror - maybe it's time to commit ourselves to a War on Indifferent Corporate Error!

        It's time for us to say again as we did that September Day - "Never Again!... Never Again!... Never Again!"

        First we root out the Bushites, then the Reaganites, from EVERY agency of the federal (and state, too) government. EVERY single one.

        Equivalence between the GOP and Al Qaeda is long overdue. Big Business is the "Saudi link": that's where the money comes from, and that's who the Republicans advance. (Remember, not a single one of the 19 hijackers on 11SEP01 was an Iraqi. Every one of them was a Saudi.)

        The damage is bigger than Katrina, because the oil isn't a natural aspect of the Gulf environment -- a hurricane is, even, every so often, a big damn hurricane like Katrina. The damage is not just to streets and buildings and governmental officials' precious public face, though. It's to the water, to the seabed, to the plankton and the coral and the oxygenation concentration in the Gulf of Mexico. It's the dolphins and the redfish, it's the pilot whales and the sea cucumbers, it's the snails and the curlews, the pelicans and the snake-doctors, the marsh grass and the mangroves. It's life itself in the Gulf of Mexico, and the poisoning of it didn't arise from a natural event. It arose from deliberate choices British Petroleum's management made and enforced.

        From the cheaper-but-less safe casing they picked to the sorry-ass well design they put forward to the secret energy meetings with Cheney in 2001 to the demand that the Transocean crew evacuate the site before a final test on the cement plug in the well -- a well they'd been having trouble keeping under control, and a well they were going to try to control with damaged equipment BP refused to replace --this is all on British Petroleum.

        Tony Hayward needs to give up every dime of his salary for 2010, and for 2009, and be made to go down there and work to clean up that oil with his own two precious hands. His ownings in every corporation on whose board he serves should be confiscated. The same should happen to Doug Suttles.

        Putting them in jail will make them martyrs among their CEO brethren. The thing to do is strip them of what means the most to them: their MONEY.

        Texas is NO Bush League! LBJ, Lady Bird, Sully Sullenberger, Ike, Molly Ivins, Barbara Jordan, Ann Richards, Drew Brees -7.50,-5.59

        by BlackSheep1 on Sun May 30, 2010 at 02:33:27 PM PDT

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      •  Actually I would (7+ / 0-)

        the Holocaust comparison is valid too, because I'm not just talking about humans costs, I'm talking about environmental impacts up and down the food chain., which will be felt for decades just as the Exxon-Valdez spill has been. Mr. Guidry talks in this continuation of his interview about entire species being decimated by the spraying of Corexit into the Gulf.  It's chilling.

        In the end he asks "If BP is so "expert" in this, why are they killing my fishermen"

        I think BP has to involved in trying to stop the leak, and it's their responsibility to pay for the to pay for the cleanup, but they don't have to be the ones calling the shots and setting safety rules.

        •  There is an excellent diary which supports (6+ / 0-)

          your words generally.  The Black Swan discussion in the comments section further supports the notion that this is an event that will 'change everything'.
          Even the MSM is catching on

          The point Don Mikulecky makes that I am also convinced of, is that we have a general conviction that if we break it we can fix it. This is very hard to do in systems as complex as a whole country (Iraq) or an ocean that is connected to other oceans.

          Which makes your use of words quite appropriate to me. I keep thinking of the numbers of animals that are dying every few - minutes? It reminds me of the scene in Star Wars when Obi-Wan Kenobi becomes dazed and reports a sense of some huge rift in the Force. They ultimately tie it to the moment the Death Star destroyed an entire planet - and the people on it.

          Gaia is undergoing a rift that will ultimately cause damage and destruction to a very significant percentage of the earth. Corporate 9/11 works for me.

          Too much sanity may be madness. The maddest of all is to see the world as it is and not as it should be. Don Quixote "Man of La Mancha"

          by Ginny in CO on Sun May 30, 2010 at 04:52:40 PM PDT

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        •  I've been thinking that the most apt comparison (2+ / 0-)
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          is probably Chernobyl + the Dust Bowl.

          "We have always known that heedless self-interest was bad morals; we know now that it is bad economics." - FDR

          by JenV on Sun May 30, 2010 at 07:11:49 PM PDT

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      •  For the Louisiana coastline..... (1+ / 0-)
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        yes, it is an environmental holocaust.

        A Yom ha-Sho'a satanic/Hitlerian annihilation.

        Started on Hitler's birthday.

        Angry White Males + Personality Disorder delusionals + Career criminals + White Racists + Pro-Life Christians =EQ= The GOPer Base

        by vets74 on Sun May 30, 2010 at 07:02:18 PM PDT

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    •  This is a corporate disaster. (6+ / 0-)

      Which is why it will be off the radar screen in a few more weeks. The corporate media will move on as soon as people stop tuning in over it. And Americans are not known for lengthy memory or attention spans. They will be distracted by the next "big story".

      Come To Arizona - It's a DRY Hate!

      by kitebro on Sun May 30, 2010 at 01:47:08 PM PDT

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      •  I'd like to see a LTE effort and hitting the (1+ / 0-)
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        message boards with a consistent message that could be picked up as the meme.  That is one thing that the Republicans are much better at than we are, and they too frequently own the narrative as a result.

        Grayson and Rendel are good at finding the pithy punch lines.  Or would someone here like to take a try at it?

    •  Nailed. Nailed and tripled nailed it. (3+ / 0-)
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      The first cases going up against Citizens United at the SCOTUS should be US v. BP, Transocean, Halliburton.

      And Clarence Thomas should step off the bench.

      Deepwater Spill: The fork in the road is HERE. Time to end addiction to cheap oil and make alternative energy our enonomic base.

      by Fe Bongolan on Sun May 30, 2010 at 03:21:38 PM PDT

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    •  Your finest diary. The corporatist own this one (8+ / 0-)

      ... and their incessant terrorism on the majority of humanity has now been irrevocably exposed.
      Thank you

      Yes. We. Did. ... Begin.

      by understandinglife on Sun May 30, 2010 at 04:06:48 PM PDT

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      •  And like 9/11, this is NOT a natural disaster. (9+ / 0-)

        It is -- unlike Katrina -- a completely human-caused disaster.

        And it was completely preventable.

        A very large part of the reason this is happening right now is because of Bush administration laziness and incompetence.  And corruption.  And cronyism.

        And while 9/11 may not have been completely preventable, it was potentially preventable -- and the Bush administration looked the other way there too.

        It needs to be shouted again and again:  This is BUSH'S disaster.  

        This is a REPUBLICAN disaster.

        The fact that a Republican doesn't happen to be president at the time this completely predictable, completely preventable disaster happened, doesn't diminish the fact that they are the ones who let it happen in the first place.

    •  I went to a party today (1+ / 0-)
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      and a varied bunch of people.  

      However, it was interesting to me that if anyone mentioned the BP oil spill, that is what is was, BP's oil spill, not Obama's.

      This was a mixed crowd of Left and Right but what sticks in people's minds is "this is BP" just like the Valdez was Exxon's.

      Fox, Rush, Palin, a/k/a the Drill Babies, all want their sheeple to believe anything but the truth,.

      -6.13 -4.4 Where are you? Take the Test!!!

      by MarciaJ720 on Sun May 30, 2010 at 07:43:02 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Could we please stop trying to compare this (14+ / 0-)

    to a terrorist attack that killed nearly 3K human beings and a natural disaster that killed nearly 2K?

    Could we?

    "John McCain has rounded up and deported his principles." --- Jonathan Alter, Newsweek.

    by marabout40 on Sun May 30, 2010 at 10:36:54 AM PDT

  •  Please (4+ / 0-)
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    do not use URL shorteners unless absolutely necessary. (Twitter)

    The "Terrorism" link, for ex:

    http://www.thepoliticalcarnival.net/...

    The best way to save the planet is to keep laughing!

    by LaughingPlanet on Sun May 30, 2010 at 10:42:42 AM PDT

  •  Notice, as usual, the GOP has NO ANSWERS (37+ / 0-)

    they have NO IDEA what to do, except blame Obama and the Government and Democrats.

    This is their modus operandi on EVERYTHING.

    They have NO JOBS PLAN

    NO environmental plan

    NO plan to stop our trade deficit that outsources jobs

    NOTHING!

    But blame? Plenty of blame, plenty of bullshit.

    And I am sick and tired of Republicans saying "this is like a REPUBLICAN SCANDAL (watergate,katrina,swiftboating,etc)

    But, back to my point, the GOP has NOTHING to offer the 99% of America that isn't fabulously wealthy. They suck, and their out of touch, and I am sick of their bullshit, and so is everyone that isn't in their reality deprived base

    I work for PeanutButterPAC, join us and help fight for Progress!

    by MinistryOfTruth on Sun May 30, 2010 at 10:47:37 AM PDT

  •  It is important (13+ / 0-)

    for liberals to remind everyone of the nature of "Bush's Katrina". The main thrust of the outrage is that Bush packed FEMA with incompetent, totally overmatched, inexperienced political cronies as payback for their work helping him get elected. On top of that, Bush and Cheney together were competely out of touch with the ongoing catastrophe, made obvious when Bush astoundingly gave Michael Brown his "Brownie, you're doing a heck of a job" pat on the back while pictures of floating bodies were being broadcast all over.

    "FEMA packed with W's pals

    Campaign pros get top jobs

    By KENNETH R. BAZINET
    DAILY NEWS WASHINGTON BUREAU

    WASHINGTON - The three top jobs at the Federal Emergency Management Agency under President Bush went to political cronies with no apparent experience coping with catastrophes, the Daily News has learned.

    Even if Bush were to fire embattled and suddenly invisible FEMA Director Michael Brown over his handling of Hurricane Katrina, the bureaucrat immediately below him is no disaster professional, either.

    While Brown ran horse shows in his last private-sector job, FEMA's No. 2 man, deputy director and chief of staff Patrick Rhode, was an advance man for the Bush-Cheney campaign and White House. He also did short stints at the Commerce Department and Small Business Administration.

    Rhode's biography posted on FEMA's Web site doesn't indicate he has any real experience in emergency response.

    In addition, the agency's former third-ranking official, deputy chief of staff Scott Morris, was a PR expert who worked for Maverick Media, the Texas outfit that produced TV and radio spots for the Bush-Cheney campaign. In June, Morris moved to Florida to become FEMA's long-term recovery director.

    "The Bush administration has apparently transformed FEMA from a professional, world-class emergency responder into a dumping ground for former campaign staff and political hacks," said Rep. Carolyn Maloney (D-Manhattan).

    FEMA also is hampered by several midlevel and regional director's jobs currently held by acting directors.

    "Just like our military, FEMA should be immune to this kind of political staffing. It should be run by career emergency response professionals," Maloney added.

    We can't let conservatives (and some clueless Democrats) get away with this mischaracterization.

    •  We're 1-1/2 years into Obama. . . (5+ / 0-)

      Administration.  

      When does the buck stop there?

      All politics is class-warfare.

      by dhfsfc on Sun May 30, 2010 at 12:41:31 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  Some would say never. n/t (4+ / 0-)
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        Dump Obama: An ethical sewer who ignores his legal obligation to prosecute people who tortured prisoners to death. Good at photo ops, though.

        by expatjourno on Sun May 30, 2010 at 12:42:12 PM PDT

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      •  Well let's see (1+ / 0-)
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        when the financial crisis hit every Republican blamed Carter. And that was 6-1/2 years into Bush and 30 years since Carter. The point is, seemlessly saying "this is Obama'a Katrina" doesn't due justice to the complete predictable failure of the Bush "response" to Katrina. Politically, Democrats should be grateful that Repugs are volunteering to remind everyone about Katrina. It is a chance to rehash exactly how bad the Republican response was and the horrible way Bush stacked FEMA with know-nothing buddies of his.

        To any comparison to Katrina, Democrats should say "Bring it on". Only the weakness of the Democrat messaging machine could possibly turn this into a net positive for the "Drill baby, drill!" crowd.

    •  Obama left all those people in place at MMS. (9+ / 0-)

      Bush and Cheney may have done to MMS what they did to FEMA, but Obama didn't do anything about it. The environmental impact report was waived in 2009. Drilling began in February 2010.

      People like Barack Obama and Rahm Emmanuel and Ken Salazar are "New Democrats." DLC-ers.  They might object to some of the excesses of Bush and Cheney, but they are fundamentally on the side of big corporate interests.

      Dump Obama: An ethical sewer who ignores his legal obligation to prosecute people who tortured prisoners to death. Good at photo ops, though.

      by expatjourno on Sun May 30, 2010 at 12:48:58 PM PDT

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      •  I read that Bush put his people (2+ / 0-)
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        everywhere he could.  Then sadly Obama is trying to be fair.  So he probably left all he could in office.

        MMS=Minerals Management Service

        We didn't say Wealth Care, we said Health Care

        by relentless on Sun May 30, 2010 at 01:17:49 PM PDT

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        •  I wonder- How the hell is that fair? (2+ / 0-)
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          Fair to who?
          Doesn't seem fair to us...part of the majority who voted for change.

          -- We are just regular people informed on issues

          by mike101 on Sun May 30, 2010 at 02:13:44 PM PDT

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        •  When "Bush put his people" at MMS, were they (3+ / 0-)
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          all political appointees that the next president could replace or were some given civil service job positions or were the positions changed to be civil service jobs?  What would be the process for them to be replaced?  Is it something the president could do?

          "Don't let what you cannot do interfere with what you can do." John Wooden

          by CKendall on Sun May 30, 2010 at 02:28:59 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

        •  Actually, it seems (0+ / 0-)

          Bush made sure that it was everyone in the office, not just political appointees, that were republican.  If they hired, they hired republican.  If they fired, they fired democratic people or they were layed off, the way I understood it.

          We didn't say Wealth Care, we said Health Care

          by relentless on Mon May 31, 2010 at 12:36:15 PM PDT

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      •  We knew about FEMA, (1+ / 0-)
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        how totally inept they were. President Obama could not have been totally blind and deaf about the inaction of FEMA during Katrina.

        People on the inside of government knew about MMS long before we knew. I can't believe President Obama was not aware of how screwed up and corrupt this agency was from top to bottom.

        I'll admit he had a lot on his plate but these two agencies, that Bush so royally screwed up, should have been a top priority from day one.
        What happened? Where was the oversight?

  •  Isn't it funny how there is a Bush screw up.... (14+ / 0-)

    for every occasion to compare to.  Katrina, 9/11, Iraq.  The list just goes on and one.

  •  Oil is king until it isnt (12+ / 0-)

    In fact, of more than 4,500 coastal permits requested by energy companies between 2005 and 2009, regulators did not deny a single one, the newspaper's review shows. Although some applications were still being evaluated, the vast majority allowed firms to do everything from tap new oil wells to install pipelines buried deep beneath fragile marshland from Calcasieu to Plaquemines parishes. More than 100 permits were granted "after the fact," meaning that companies had already begun their work before approaching the state for permission.

    from Crooks and Liars

  •  As a society, we need to make a decision whether (22+ / 0-)

    the deep drilling is worth it.  Amazingly, other than the corporatists, many still think it is.  But this is supposed to be a democracy and the majority don't think it is worth it and we must develop other sources of energy.  Which way is it going to be?  We already know because we know we are no longer a democracy.  

    "I will no longer be labeled, except as a human being."

    by BigAlinWashSt on Sun May 30, 2010 at 11:04:12 AM PDT

  •  So you're saying the CIA did it? (0+ / 0-)

    I kid, I kid.

  •  Whiny Jindal has been playing politics (16+ / 0-)

    Democratic legislators criticize Gov. Jindal's handling of Gulf oil spill relief money

    Three Democratic state senators blasted Republican Gov. Bobby Jindal on Saturday for not quickly distributing $40 million in grants from BP at the same time he's been criticizing the company and the Obama administration for taking too long to provide needed resources to combat the Gulf oil spill.

  •  The fishermen not being allowed masks is ... (15+ / 0-)

    ... very serious, and quite revealing.

    BP doesn't want to open itself up to lawsuits from people on land.

    "If you don't use your majorities, you lose your majorities."

    by SteinL on Sun May 30, 2010 at 11:12:29 AM PDT

  •  I was thinking rather than Obama's Katrina (14+ / 0-)

    This is starting to look much bigger than that.

    Perhaps, "Oil's Chernobyl."

    "One man alone can be pretty dumb sometimes, but for real bona fide stupidity nothing beats teamwork." - Mark Twain

    by greendem on Sun May 30, 2010 at 11:24:23 AM PDT

  •  What really cracks me up.... (18+ / 0-)

    is listening to conservative gas bags on AM radio (Limbaugh especially) going  totally ballistic about Federal response (Obama personally)  to BP's " Katrina Moment". Apparantly they want to Socialize the cleanup and burden taxpaying, responsible Americans with a massive bailout for a huge corporation that's obviously "Too big to fail".
    HYPOCRITES !!

    •  envision President Obama in a diving suit, (1+ / 0-)
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      accompanied by a photographer similarly clothed, diving to 5000 feet to document the President sticking his finger in the hole - re-enacting the finger in the dike routine.

      What the heck could he have done more than what has been done?

      Would shouting have made a difference to the head of BP? Not likely that even the President's shouting would penetrate his thick skin. Amazing that the BP board has not removed him already.

      At this point, it's too late, for woulda' shoulda' coulda'.

      They need to work as fast and cleanly as possible to clean it up, and make sure it never ever happens again, and figure out what was wrong with the theory (i.e., risk and systems analysis) to ensure this kind of thing doesn't happen again in any other venue. At the same time - work to make sure the people whose jobs have been swamped in oil have alternative means of support - and ensure those involved in clean up use government issued air filters and hazmat clothing.

      At least that's what makes sense to me - but what do I know?

    •  and even worse - if he had taken strong measures (0+ / 0-)

      he would have been called a nazi communist godless dictator - oh wait, they call him that no matter what he does.

      And even worse, we have Rand Paul saying to criticize of FOREIGN CORPORATION is UnAmerican !  I would love to hear what Rush and Hannity and oReily and Beck have to say about that

  •  Tipped and rec'd--love the line (5+ / 0-)

    we brought them to the party ourselves - and now we have no one else left to dance with

  •  Obama said he owns it (7+ / 0-)

    and he does.    If  he forces  BP  to fix this and  to pay up like they said they would,  and he can somehow get this bumbling, cumbersome government to help  keep the gulf coast from being permanently ruined,  he  and the Dems have a chance.   Otherwise he and they are toast,  and many believe its already too late for the gulf  coast.

  •  Great diary but I couldn't disagree more. (6+ / 0-)

    Obama should have relocated to New Orleans on day one, set up shop and coordinated this effort under the presumption that this would NOT get under control. You and I both knew no more than 7 days into the event that there was no easy fix for this.

    His response has been glacial in more than one sense: slow moving and cool. Don't trumpt the Coast Guard and the booms and the personnel. None one ounce of the effort went toward STOPPING the leak. If my toilet is overflowing and I clean up around it without fixing the leak, I am going to be cleaning up for a very long time.

    True, there may be nothing humanly possible to do to stop this leak. But if I had been President --or you-- I am quite sure that you would have summoned the best brains and brawn of not just the nation but the world to put a stop to it.

    This is very much like Katrina, but worse. You have the exact same leadership vaccum. Leadership doesn't mean you fix it, but it does mean that you communicate clearly, succinctly and effectively that the nation will spare no efforts to do so.

    He didn't do that. And, hate me if you wish, but Rove is right that recriminations against BP (threats of criminal prosecution) and so forth are probably not a good idea when they are the only ones who know where the the screws, ports and valves are. Make sure the monster releases the damsel before indicting him.

    It was apparent to many right here on this site that top kill wasn't going to work. This wasn't just pessimistic naysaying -- it was an informed, reasoned prediction.

    The Government should have been on Plan Z by now and doing its best to effectuate it. This was a tremendous failure of leadership. I'm a Democrat. Always have been. But I am not blind. And on this subject I hold a majoritarian view.

    British Petroleum: I think that means it's foreign oil.

    by Bensdad on Sun May 30, 2010 at 11:54:01 AM PDT

  •  afraid they are making it "love canal south" (2+ / 0-)
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    What with the dispersant, and all.

    fact does not require fiction for balance

    by mollyd on Sun May 30, 2010 at 11:55:02 AM PDT

  •  Great Diary. (0+ / 0-)

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but nuclear subs can't dive anywhere near 5000 ft, right?  I fear this might come to Blowing Shit Up yet.  The well is 30,000 feet deep, right?  Somewhere in those five miles there should be a rock formation suitable for placing a charge near, which when detonated would result in enough "junk" to lower the pressure at the surface enough to allow a plug to be placed.  And God help us.

    People are fungible. You can have them here or there. - Former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, responding

    by peterborocanuck on Sun May 30, 2010 at 11:55:53 AM PDT

  •  The regulations were in place (5+ / 0-)
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    to prevent this accident. Regulators need to enforce the regulations on the books before creating new ones. the problem was with people doing their jobs.

    "No man deserves to be praised for his goodness unless he has strength of character to be wicked." La Rochefoucald

    by Void Indigo on Sun May 30, 2010 at 11:56:02 AM PDT

    •  American mining and drilling regs are crap. (0+ / 0-)

      There are no American regs requiring the safety measures that are standard in most of the civilized world: Canada, UK, Norway, etc. that might have had a chance in mitigating this clusterfuck.
      But you're right that monitoring and enforcement in America is also crap.  It's an oilman's wet dream.

      "I almost died for the international monetary system; what the hell is that?" ~ The In-laws

      by Andhakari on Sun May 30, 2010 at 02:30:42 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  There is no requirement (2+ / 0-)
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      for drilling the relief with in sync with the exploratory well (as Canada and other nations require).  Yes, a lot of other regulations were ignored, and violated - an that is largely because our REGULATORY COPS ARE ON THE TAKE for the Corporations, but that right there is a Biggie - it changes the solution to this problem from near immediate, to August.

      Vyan

  •  I like this part (6+ / 0-)

    Corporations aren't inherently evil, but when their only priority and fiduciary duty is to protecting the profit of their stockholders by reducing liability and accountability while increasing risk - they can certain become amoral.

    And would add that in fact corporations are PSYCHOPATHS by definition since any "person" who's only concern in the world is profit, at the expense of any other person or living thing on the planet,  must be considered so.

    Obama's good choices (yes he does good things!) don't make me as happy as his bad ones disappoint.

    by mralex1974 on Sun May 30, 2010 at 11:57:42 AM PDT

    •  More accurately, (0+ / 0-)

      they are sociopaths.

      so·ci·o·path   a person, as a psychopathic personality, whose behavior is antisocial and who lacks a sense of moral responsibility or social conscience.

      A garden variety psychopath might have motivations that are impossible to discern because they are entirely irrational.  A sociopath, on the other hand, is completely rational, acting entirely in his own self-interest without regard to any external consequences.

      When you consider that a naked quest for profit that eschews any consideration of the negative consequences for the public at large is bound to result in: 1) serious environmental damage; 2) widespread injuries and/or deaths to employees and/or consumers; or 3) catastrophic economic harm, I think you could quite easily and fairly categorize many (if not most) corporations as evil.

  •  Recent BP statements that pissed me off (16+ / 0-)

    From a new Wapo story:

    BP managing director Bob Dudley said on NBC's Meet the Press that the aim of the next maneuver is to contain the majority of the flow. The operation will take four to seven days, and it has a better probability of success than the top kill. The outcome should be clear by the end of this week, Dudley said.

    Um if it has a better probability of success than the top kill, why didn't they try that first??

    But Dudley also expressed optimism about the next step to contain the spill, saying on CBS, "with this, we think we can contain the majority of the oil and gas."

    "Again, we're operating at the frontiers of human endeavor at 5,000 feet. And there is risk with it," he said.

    Listen asshat, if you're operating at the "frontiers of human endeavor," maybe you shouldn't have been drilling there in the first place, or maybe, just maybe, you should've had a plan in place beforehand to handle a disaster like this.  

    Go fuck yourself BP!  

    •  HOOCOODANODE!! (0+ / 0-)

      Well, hoocoodanode that drilling a fucking mile below the ocean into two fucking miles of rock, might carry risks!? Oh my, who should pay for all that risk? Certainly not me, I'm in this for a profit. The taxpayer, yes, that's who will pay for the risk. Ah, now on to making money.

  •  Bad idea (0+ / 0-)

    Thousands of people didn't die though.

    You're opening the left up to valid criticism by using 911 to advance your political and social beliefs. Even if we all agree with you here, that doesn't mean Americans won't resent how you're making your point.

    People who lived through Katrina and those who sympathize with them don't like it when their disaster is used to bash Obama unfairly.

    I don't think using 911 in the way that you are is a wise choice and I really hope it doesn't backfire on us and blow up in our faces. Too late now I guess.

    •  Who says thousands will not die? (0+ / 0-)

      Thousands likely will die from breathing in the increased air pollution as this garbage gets spread around. There were over 6500 medical claims against Exxon for the Valdez incident. People got really sick, it is thought some died as a result to that exposure.

      No, they won't be on TV.

      Their names won't be listed in news reports, but tens of thousands of people die prematurely in this country as it is every year from air pollution.

      EU - 100,000  

      http://epp.eurostat.ec.europa.eu/...

      California - 18,000

      http://www.stateoftheair.org/...

      How many more will suffer as a consequence of breathing in the crap from the Gulf?

      Saul Alinsky:
      Power is not in what the establishment has, but in what you think it has.

      by shpilk on Sun May 30, 2010 at 10:09:10 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Obama didn't cause this mess, (12+ / 0-)

    but our government sure as hell is.  This disaster and the econimic meltdown is absolutely the fault of a government owned and operated by the multi-national corporations they are suppose to regulate.   People should be pissed at all of them because while this disaster unfolds on top on the WS heist, we are getting obstructionist government helped along with compromise after compromise until there is not a reform in sight.  In other words, business as usual.    

    While Bush lied us into war and Cheney tortured and created secret energy policies, our Democrats sat silent - afraid to oppose anything because it might cost "them" their jobs.  Bush's war has cost us one trillion dollars with no end in sight, but we need to cut social spending because we can't afford it.     Regulators cozied up to banks, pharma, insurance companies, and big oil, and both parties let them do it.  Together, they destroyed our planet, our economy, and the lives of millions of people.  

    The crisis we are in is bi-partisan.  

     

    They're asking for another four years -- in a just world, they'd get 10 to 20. ~~ Dennis Kucinich

    by dkmich on Sun May 30, 2010 at 12:17:40 PM PDT

  •  I've been asking why the gov't doesn't (3+ / 0-)

    seize control of the company and use their own workers to clean up the mess. I could be wrong, not knowing what federal guidelines stand in the way of doing this, but you have given me some things to think about regarding my position. Thanks for the diary.

    "Looks like we got ourselves a reader" - Bill Hicks

    by blueoregon on Sun May 30, 2010 at 12:22:33 PM PDT

  •  Where is Old Dick Cheney ? His silent says it all (4+ / 0-)

    Republicans secret dream = the impeachment of Bo the Dog LOL

    by LaurenMonica on Sun May 30, 2010 at 12:25:13 PM PDT

  •  Don't hold your breath waiting for justice (5+ / 0-)

    Obama's entire response has been one of minimizing awareness of this disaster: allowing the use of toxic dispersants to hide the spill for weeks, allowing BP to dumb down estimates of the spill for weeks, avoiding earlier visits to the coast that would have created far more media attention on the devastation, visiting a relatively clean beach instead of a destroyed wetland on his one visit, limiting press access to the beaches.

    He could have used this crime to challenge the reckless greed of corporate America, but in his Administration's lax regulatory management and in his bowing to the logic of "drill, baby, drill" we can see that he is primarily interested in helping his party profit from such greed.

    He could have used this tragedy to mobilize support for a radical shift towards green energy, but he has no interest in deep reform. He is invested in the status quo, his own reputation is threatened by any admission that there is something deeply wrong with our energy policy.

  •  The “relative left”? (3+ / 0-)
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    A permanent moratorium would be a start (a ban on offshore drilling is what's really called for). We’ve just seen that one offshore blowout can kill the gulf coast. The "hard left" has been against offshore drilling all along. Any offshore rig has the potential of creating this kind of environmental catastrophe (due to earthquakes etc.). These kinds of disasters are not "responded to", they are PREVENTED. When Obama lifted a 20 year moratorium on offshore drilling he gave offshore drilling the good housekeeping seal of approval. That was not the right "response" to the unpreventable catastrophes of offshore drilling.
    Leaving the moratorium in place wouldn’t have prevented this horrible disaster, but if Obama would have just listened to us "liberal retards" (by not lifting a 20-year moratorium on offshore drilling) we could be putting this disaster squarely on the historic party of big oil (i.e. republicans). Now it's a "bipartisan" offshore drilling disaster (quickly becoming exclusively Obama’s, i.e. "our" disaster). Leaving the moratorium in place may have also provided better footing for a serious expansion in green/alternative energy. If this is not bad enough, Obama is still in the drill-baby-drill camp (i.e. temporary hold on offshore drilling). How bad does it have to get before a permanent moratorium is deemed necessary. Sometimes I think this administration is intentionally trying to hurt the brand. It's not just the "relative left" that's criticizing the administration for its failed response to this disaster (i.e. PREVENTING FUTURE OFFSHORE DISASTERS BY ENDING THIS DISASTEROUS POLICY OF OFFSHORE DRILLING), it's the "hard left".

  •  I watched the two oil executives on the MSNBC.... (3+ / 0-)
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    link. It's 10 minutes so you need some time. They sounded like they had a lot of technical years in oil drilling.

    They had some good and bad ideas but were talking about this going on for years.

    They were saying  bring in big tankers and just keep on sucking up the gusher and storing it until it stops.

    A supertanker can hold over 80 million gallons. Wow.

    They were incredulous this is not being done and how we have been screwing around for 37 days.

    5,000 years ago, Pharoah would say "I am dissapointed" and certain minor nobility would would have to take knives to their throats.

  •  Exactly. I thought about writing a similar diary (13+ / 0-)

    myself, actually. Glad you did.

    This:

    What were seeing here will not be a referendum on the Obama Presidency, or his effectiveness as leader no matter how those on the left or right would like to see it that way. IMO this will ultimately be a referendum on Selfish Corporate Bullshit.

    It's also called Capitalism (or specifically, for those who squirm at such sharp words, unfettered, uncapped, unregulated Capitalism gone awry).

    C-A-P-I-T-A-L-I-S-M

    Take a long, hard look at that word, because that is the real Katrina here.

    We call it Corporatism sometimes, or Populism at other times. What we're looking at is the worst-case scenario of when Capitalism is bigger than the Federal Government, when it exceeds its regulations. It's not a referendum on Obama, in my view. The man's doing the best that he can as the President of Global Capitalism. But he's in an unfortunate position, and who is stupid enough to think he doesn't GET that?

    If we want no more disasters of this magnitude from big corporations that could give two shits about ecological ramifications, we need to remember that this system is downright sinister, that it expands and destroys without due checks upon it. And those are what we need to work toward. Capping Capitalism. Free trade is never free; it has a price tag that is immeasurable.

    I am against unrestrained, unchecked Capitalism and I refuse to not place blame where it is due: not on response teams, not on the President, not on the Coast Guard, not on the EPA, not on the MSM, not even on BP or Corexit. These are all cogs in the wheel of Capitalism, our real enemy here, bigger than anything, a false God for a short and shuddering era to whom I refuse to bow down.

    Remember that name and don't get distracted by the details. This is a big picture issue and we, as Progressives, need to understand what really hit the Gulf Coast.

    "Human salvation lies in the hands of the creatively maladjusted." -- MLK Jr.

    by mahakali overdrive on Sun May 30, 2010 at 12:37:13 PM PDT

    •  Couldn't have said it better myself, MO. Thnx.nt (2+ / 0-)

      There is no more important struggle for American democracy than ensuring a diverse, independent and free media. - Bill Moyers

      by StepLeftStepForward on Sun May 30, 2010 at 12:49:51 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  It's been on my mind for days (1+ / 0-)
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        Some folks aren't catching the most important lesson in this all. It's a really pinnacle moment for reflection too.

        "Human salvation lies in the hands of the creatively maladjusted." -- MLK Jr.

        by mahakali overdrive on Sun May 30, 2010 at 12:53:26 PM PDT

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        •  Agreed. (1+ / 0-)
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          I've been thinking about it too, and have wondered when we'd get over the blame-game and start talking about the root cause of society's malaise. The question is, what are we going to do about it? How can we get ordinary people to realize that capitalism is the problem?

          There is no more important struggle for American democracy than ensuring a diverse, independent and free media. - Bill Moyers

          by StepLeftStepForward on Sun May 30, 2010 at 01:09:10 PM PDT

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          •  Well, we have to say it like it is (0+ / 0-)

            Speak it plainly. That's all I know what to do to get ordinary folks to recognize the problem: educate them. They certainly understand the concepts -- and tend to call it Corporatism or Populism when they mean something a bit more akin to putting a cap on Capitalism. People are scared of the notion of Socialism. Democratic Socialism seems to make more sense to them, however, especially when there are so many countries doing well with this.

            We need to keep speaking about the differences between unchecked Capitalism and Democratic Socialism (or Capitalism with a cap). It has been my experience that most people tend to agree that they aren't economically free in the U.S. economic system; most don't still believe much in the myth of the American Dream. So that's a start.

            Speak about it. Let people know this is okay. And from the bottom-up, they can get more Bernie Sanders on their LOCAL ballots. As for how to deal with it "all at once," I don't believe it can be done without something apocalyptic happening. As out there as that sounds, there just isn't a viable alternative base structure underneath it. That needs to be built up. How do we do that? Small, sustainable, local-based businesses and less globalism, for a start. Life simplification. A return to the more communal.

            I lived in several communes as a child and they were far more functional than people would guess. I'm sure it is part of what continues to inform my thinking that people can effectively work together in defiance of big businesses that eat them alive.

            "Human salvation lies in the hands of the creatively maladjusted." -- MLK Jr.

            by mahakali overdrive on Sun May 30, 2010 at 03:26:11 PM PDT

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    •  Yes, sometimes a cog comes loose and (1+ / 0-)
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      bashes a bunch of people, but, we really do have to work on the machine itself, not just the cog.

      -- We are just regular people informed on issues

      by mike101 on Sun May 30, 2010 at 02:31:10 PM PDT

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    •  Ok, you don't like capitalism. (0+ / 0-)

      What is your alternative for the USA?

  •  They've taken over the planet (7+ / 0-)

    They're faceless, heartless robots. They are immortal-- you can't kill them, and if you try, they just recombine with other ones to make even bigger, more dangerous ones!!!

    They can only kill. And eat. And what they eat and kill are people and land and natural resources.

    They have limitless wealth and can overwhelm any individual with legal and financial muscle. They lie pathologically, without remorse, and without scruples. They have no conscience, they can only avoid punishment, and they do it most often by lying or circumventing the law, or getting the laws changed in their favor.

    They have purchased and taken over our government, and that of many other countries. The have their hooks so far into the economy and the government that they have now taken them over directly and are sucking blood directly through it, via our tax dollars. They own the government. They own us.

    Who are these evil robots?

    CORPORATIONS!

    Kill them with a stake to the heart:
    http://www.movetoamend.org

  •  I see the unfolding of this horror (7+ / 0-)

    as the result of an unfettered corporate sector in which it has been enabled by Congress to run roughshod over the American people and our environment.  All in the name of profit.  The so-called profit was supposed to have trickled down and into our pockets.  All of us know that hasn't turned out to be the case for Joe and Jane America.  If anything, fat cat the CEO and pimp the politician have stuffed their pockets or have sent the profits to an offshore haven.

    Democrats are not innocent bystanders in this regard but the carnage we see today is owned by the Republican Party and its worship of an unrestrained free market ideology.

    I blame the MSM for failing to do its due diligence in seriously analyzing what has happened over the past decade.

    David Gregory of MTP, BTW, is such a poor excuse of an anchor that I no longer watch a show I've tuned into for years.  I no longer hold much of the MSM relevant at all.  I find myself coming here much of the time and I read all that I can from the experts in a given field, i.e. scientists (Fish out of Water, fishgrease, etc.) where the oil leak is concerned and Ph.D. level economists (e.g.Krugman, etc. and DK diarists Jerome a Paris and bonddad) for their input.  I am grateful for their willingness to share their expertise with our community.

  •  With all due respect, invoking 9/11 (3+ / 0-)
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    is worthy of Rudy Guliani, not a member of the "reality-based community"

    Please let's not trivialize the horror of 9/11, or the consequences to all our lives and the lives of millions of Iraqis and Afghanis, in the way we have trivialized the Holocaust, by invoking it as a hyperbolic phrase on demand.

    Always make new mistakes - Esther Dyson

    by RandomActsOfReason on Sun May 30, 2010 at 01:08:41 PM PDT

  •  Then it's not a 9/11 (5+ / 0-)

    The Deep Water Horizon Disaster IS A CRIME (caps by author)

    This is big enough that it's not 9/11, it's not Katrina, it's not Exxon Valdez, it's BP!

    Their brand name, BP, should be the synonymous with environmental destruction.

    Goldman Sachs should be synonymous with financial destruction.

    It is time to make their brands synonymous with catastrophic sh!t like Enron and WorldCom and GOP.

  •  Obama doesn't have the power (3+ / 0-)
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    to prevent or even clean up after these planetary disasters, unless and until we Americans decide to dismantle the banking monopolies, nationalize the oil and other energy industries, and divert the flow of capital from the hands of the oligarchs into democratically controlled government agencies, and we all know Americans won't let that happen. The government is broke and deeply in debt. The banks and oil industry, and their majority shareholders, are wallowing in hundreds of billions of dollars. They use their financial power to corrupt and weaken government and shape the consumption patterns, values and attitudes, the consciousness, of most Americans.
    I'd like to know who are the oligarchs in America. Who are the few dozen families who own majority shares in Goldman, Exxon, Chase, Halliburton, BP, big coal, big pharma, big ag, big everything, and who own the corporations that dominate our lives, who start the wars, who spill the oil and destroy habitats globally, who corrupt the political and judicial process, who used Reagan, Rove and Limbaugh, etc to manipulate the public to hate government and praise or just ignore corporations?
    Who are they? Who appoints and directs their boards to hire their CEOs to order the priorities and policies of their holdings to maximize short-term return on investment (ROI) regardless of human or planetary destruction.
    WHO ARE THEY?

    Science is a way of thinking much more than it is a body of knowledge. -Carl Sagan

    by howardfromUSA on Sun May 30, 2010 at 01:56:57 PM PDT

  •  After the well is capped (3+ / 0-)

    and BP has been gutted to pay for the damages and lose of livelihood they caused, all their executives (as well as those of Halliburton and Transocean) should be brought up on charges of manslaughter if not first degree murder.

    I'm a thinking person. I don't listen to Glenn or Rush.

    by tpabob on Sun May 30, 2010 at 02:14:30 PM PDT

  •  There have to be consequences. (2+ / 0-)
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    A effing men.

    "I'll let you be in my dreams if I can be in yours" -Bob Dylan said that.

    by rambler american on Sun May 30, 2010 at 02:20:00 PM PDT

  •  I keep trying (5+ / 0-)

    to explain to the right that the Government is not in the Oil business and if they were, they would be having an f'ing fit about it because it would be socialism.

    It's because they can blame Obama for this not because they are upset about the environment.  All those drill baby drill people could give a shit about the environment.

    It's such a mess and so frustrating because Obama can't solve this.

    BUT he could be doing a lot of cosmetic things, like getting a ton of people in hazmat suits out there to be trying to clean it up pronto and keep the oil off the beaches and out of the marshes, etc.

    Sometimes people just want action.

    But you are right to say that this needs to be turned around quickly and people need to be angry at the right people.  And there is the reality that no matter what, there will be the 25% of the population that will always blame Obama for EVERYTHING.

  •  The ideologues of deregulation (4+ / 0-)
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    need to be placed in stocks and be subjected to a relentless, vituperative public campaign of withering scorn, ridicule, derision, opprobrium and mockery.

    We've had to listen to these fucking dipshits spouting their drivel for the last thirty years.  Enough is enough.  They need to be told, loudly and ceaselessly, SHUT.  THE.  FUCK.  UP.  YOU'RE FULL OF WHOLLY, TOTALLY, UTTERLY DISCREDITED, DISASTROUS HORSESHIT.  AND  WE'LL BE REMINDING OF YOU OF THAT EVERY DAY AND IN EVERY WAY UNTIL YOUR ASININE IDEOLOGY IS FUCKING DEAD AND FUCKING BURIED.

    Got all that, assholes?

  •  Cheney's Corporate Crime. BTW where is (1+ / 0-)
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    the creep lately?  crickets ... hmmm.

  •  Wait. Let's Me Follow the Logic Here: (6+ / 0-)
    1. BP is a British Company.
    1. BP perpetrated an act of negligent terrorism against the American people.
    1. This is 9/11 not Katrina.

    Shouldn't we be carpet bombing England?

    Then, invading and occupying the UK with ground forces and killing anyone who resists?

    ::
    The Pluto Chronicles. You want reality? You can't handle reality!

    by Pluto on Sun May 30, 2010 at 03:00:17 PM PDT

  •  Problem is (1+ / 0-)
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    The corporations own the media. The media says it's Oil-trina. Americans desperate to consider themselves the reasonable middle class because they're not us or tea-bagger will believe what the media says, because the media tells them that's what reasonable people do. And the media tells them that because the corporations own the media.

    So, yeah. No way out. Short of utter social collapse anyway. Yeeha!

    "I am for Socialism because I am for humanity. We have been cursed with the reign of gold long enough" -Eugene V Debs

    by jabbausaf on Sun May 30, 2010 at 03:29:18 PM PDT

  •  ok, so (0+ / 0-)

    I'll write and make phone calls next Tuesday and in Nov I'll vote for the lesser of two evils, if that even still exists.

    This crap has not and does not work.  We need some real tools.

    "We heard their ideas, and they stink." Hal Sparks

    by lisastar on Sun May 30, 2010 at 03:34:29 PM PDT

  •  Interesting this disaster has still (3+ / 0-)
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    not acquired a single, concise and catchy name to live on in infamy. Death Plume or Balrog. It's almost too elusive for that, like something that haunts the margins of a bad dream. "There are older and fouler things than Orcs in the deep places of the world." Any event that picks the world up by the lapels and shakes it is unique, beyond comparison. But as long as people are looking for historical analogies I don't see why Pearl Harbor should be left out of the conversation. An act of war on the environment. A singular catastrophic event, "surprising" despite its inevitability, destined to force our hand and bring about large scale mobilization in an effort to save the world from a ruthless, inhuman assault launched by a global axis of technology and fuck-you ideology run amok.

    "Your point. Their village." --Zhivago to Strelnikov

    by ailanthus on Sun May 30, 2010 at 03:49:30 PM PDT

  •  never again is right! (0+ / 0-)

    time to put the government back in our hands
    and take it away from the hands of corporate greed.

    i'm fu*king done.
    the time has come for good government, again.
    a government that protects the people
    and the environment.

    we must never forget:

    THE EARTH DOES NOT BELONG TO US,
    WE BELONG TO THE EARTH.

    may god help us, and
    mother nature forgive us.

    "Toleration is the greatest gift of the mind; it requires the same effort of the brain that it takes to balance oneself on a bicycle." -Helen Keller

    by ridemybike on Sun May 30, 2010 at 04:14:40 PM PDT

  •  Bobby Jindal and Katrina (1+ / 0-)
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    What bothers me is how Bobby Jindal got to be governor by criticizing Gov. Blanco's response to Katrina. He never criticized Bush, but claimed that it was the state's responsibility to react to Katrina. Now Jindal is blaming Obama saying that its the Feds responsibility.

    That said, this crisis from a psychological point of view reminds me of Carter's Iran Hostage Crisis. The crisis went on and on, and about once a month there would be high hopes that a solution was just around the corner, only for hopes to be crushed when the efforts to solve the crisis failed. There is also a perception that both Carter and Obama are too unwilling to use military force. One big difference is that Obama is being criticized for being too detached, while Carter got criticized for making too big a deal out of the crisis.

  •  Depends what Obama does NOW--re oil consumption (0+ / 0-)

    "Mr. Obama.  Mr. OBAMA!!!  This is the Universe calling.  You have said that you wake up thinking of the oil spill, and go to bed thinking of the oil spill.  With this constant, nagging demand for your attention, what is this oil spill telling you?

    The spill happened right after you announced that offshore oil drilling was going to be allowed off the Atlantic coast.  A stupid man would not see the obvious conclusion to be drawn.

    You're not a stupid man, Mr. President."

    The President must reverse course, and stop Mr. Salazar from repeating insistently that offshore drilling will be a centerpiece for our energy policy.  He must radically reverse course on our constant coddling of those industries relying on continued use of oil.  Like a 40-year-old still living at home, whose parents won't force him or her to get a job or contribute, these parasitical industries have long since passed the point of being spoilt, and have actually become a danger to the very viability of their host bodies.

    The President must force all public bodies to use alternatives to oil, as much as possible, for transportation purposes.  He has the power, for God's sake, to do SOMETHING.

    "Arguments are to be avoided. They are always vulgar, and are often convincing." -- Oscar Wilde

    by Villagejonesy on Sun May 30, 2010 at 04:39:59 PM PDT

  •  Fantastic diary!! (0+ / 0-)

    I think this disaster is actually all the disasters rolled up into one.

    911- for the reasons you mentioned.
    Katrina- for the location and lack of urgency.
    Volcanoes- because that port in New Orleans that sends goods up the Mississippi will no longer be able to be used due to the heavy oil plugging up the docks, like the ash clogged up the air space.
    Financial meltdown and housing crash- drill permits being given out like mortgages were given out with little to no oversight.
    The Afghan war- America's longest lasting war with no end in sight.  It appears the damage left from this disaster will go on forever.
    Exodous of Mexicans into the US-  The economies along the coast will be crushed tourism, fishing, realistate, shipping.  The people of the gulf will be forced to move to seek new opportunites.
    Global Warming- The effects of global warming will cause the oceans to lose oxegen to support life in the sea, well the amount of oil in the gulf is enough to crush any ability of life to live in the sea.

    You get the idea- This is not only an environmental disaster, this is a human disaster, a man made disaster, a financial disaster and a corporate terrorism disaster.

  •  Rove baugh humbug (2+ / 0-)
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    it Cheney's Gulf Oil spill Halliburton was working on the rig well hours before the first explosion-fir... Cheney was operating the situation room on 911....

    it's Cheney's Spill

    CA budget kills the economy and harms so many. Schwarzenegger's actions say it's more terrible to delay tax cuts for oil corporations than pay for child care.

    by anyname on Sun May 30, 2010 at 05:14:48 PM PDT

  •  We need to cut our energy use, personally (2+ / 0-)
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    Take responsibility.

    Quit waiting for someone else, or some other entity to take action.

    Step up, and make changes.

    This health care system is a moral atrocity. Dr. Ralphdog

    by AllisonInSeattle on Sun May 30, 2010 at 05:34:42 PM PDT

    •  "Key a Hummer for Christ !" (0+ / 0-)

      That too.

      Punish people who flaunt environmental destruction. Fuck 'em.

      Its like the Battle of the St. Johns. Speed boats have to be sunk at their docks, else the manatees are going to be slaughtered to extinction.

      What else ?

      Angry White Males + Personality Disorder delusionals + Career criminals + White Racists + Pro-Life Christians =EQ= The GOPer Base

      by vets74 on Sun May 30, 2010 at 07:12:37 PM PDT

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    •  Yes, but we need national and global leadership (1+ / 0-)
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      It's just pissing in the wind to try to cut personal energy use while the entire corporate empire is dedicated to selling oil and consuming it, and has a chokehold on the masses and the government. We have to break the grip of corporations on our necks.

      Science is a way of thinking much more than it is a body of knowledge. -Carl Sagan

      by howardfromUSA on Sun May 30, 2010 at 07:13:53 PM PDT

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    •  I have, but no where near enough. (0+ / 0-)

      Saul Alinsky:
      Power is not in what the establishment has, but in what you think it has.

      by shpilk on Sun May 30, 2010 at 09:59:32 PM PDT

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  •  BP/Halliburton's Katrina, NOT Obama's! (3+ / 0-)
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    Where's Dick Cheney and his spawn Liz!?!  

    Not a peep about the blownout BP/Halliburton oil wellhead from either one of these 2 dipshits.

    Their silence on the matter screams volumes!

  •  NO PARTY is to blame (0+ / 0-)

    Corporate/govt collusion is to blame...and unless you are sleeping you should have noticed that Obama isn't really all that interested in blurring that symbiotic line.

    9-11?  You wanna use that comparison then it is fair game for others to snidely retort, "It happened on your watch", much like we said about Bushco visavis 9-11.

    The blame game is why we never learn and change. Far easier to blame than learn.

    It's on US, each and every one of US to cut our own symbiotic line with corporate America. Stop shopping unless it is in your town from people you know. Stop buying the house 2hrs from your job. Trade in the motorsports for hobbies like biking. TRade in the Audi for an economy car. ETC.

    If not, then we'll just keep blaming everyone else for corporate/govt greed and malfeasance while abolving ourselves of our part in the play.  

    But I, being poor, have only my dreams; I have laid my dreams under your feet; tread softly, because you tread on my dreams. -- Yeats

    by Bill O Rights on Sun May 30, 2010 at 06:39:20 PM PDT

    •  Yet you blame the shopper... (1+ / 0-)
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      really...you guys amaze me with your ability to live in denial. This gov't has colluded with industry to hide the risks, now they collude to hide the size of the spill.

      The EPA approved the use of the toxic Corexit...and the oil industry makes a profit off of it. Unbelievable...

  •  Sen. Byrd said the same thing about some coal (2+ / 0-)
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    operators in West Virginia. One of them or another.

    The possibility of Taking BP Down, revoking their corporate Charter and banning the entire company from our shores, needs to be on the table.  There have to be consequences.

    Anybody wonder whatever could he mean out in the Nether Regions of Glenbeckistan? Ha!

    If SCOTUS gave corporations political life then they have a time for a death certificate, too.

    Anyone who has the power to make you believe absurdities has the power to make you commit injustices -- François-Marie Arouet

    by CA Berkeley WV on Sun May 30, 2010 at 06:46:27 PM PDT

  •  Jeff nailed it ::: "Free Market oil spill." (2+ / 0-)
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    What else ?

    Besides combining Pearl Harbor, Bopal and Chernobyl....................

    Angry White Males + Personality Disorder delusionals + Career criminals + White Racists + Pro-Life Christians =EQ= The GOPer Base

    by vets74 on Sun May 30, 2010 at 07:10:19 PM PDT

    •  Free Market? (1+ / 0-)
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      I don't know of any free market that exists when the government caps the amount of damage a company can be responsible for in a case like this. This is a horrible result of corporate government policies, not a free market.

      •  Local damages are not limited. (0+ / 0-)

        Local suits have unlimited liability.

        Also, the RICO statute surely applies to this one.

        Angry White Males + Personality Disorder delusionals + Career criminals + White Racists + Pro-Life Christians =EQ= The GOPer Base

        by vets74 on Mon May 31, 2010 at 04:46:39 AM PDT

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  •  Just a sign of the times (0+ / 0-)

    BP's scandalous conduct is just typical of the age of unlimited and unrestrained corporate greed in which we live.  As that 80s song goes, "nothing is new."

    It's just a Sign of the Times.

    Maladie d'Amour, Où l'on meurt d'Aimer, Seul et sans Amour, Sid'abandonné

    by FogCityJohn on Sun May 30, 2010 at 07:21:34 PM PDT

  •  good one, but maybe bush's second katrina (0+ / 0-)

    if it was incompetence and deregulation, that is...

    but IMO katrina was a PR opportunity-that's why they waited 5 days- the roves were waiting for black on white violence their talk radio jocks could use all the way through several election cycles.

    Progressives will lose all major messaging battles until they picket the limbaugh/hannity megastations and boycott those stations' local sponsors.

    by certainot on Sun May 30, 2010 at 07:33:28 PM PDT

  •  I rec'd this diary, but I didn't tip the tip jar. (2+ / 0-)
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    I'm too much in despair. I think the train left the station years ago.

    Obama and all his minions are all publicly bowing and scraping before their corporate masters, even though it is a criminal, foreign corporation that is doing tremendous damage to the U.S. economy and national interest and security.

    No, game over.

    Today I was showing my wife book on Multinational Corporations from 1974 that I have in my library. This was predicted 40 years ago. The world is no longer ruled by national governments. It is ruled by CEOs accountable to nobody. It's even worse than the feudal system.

  •  You are wrong... (1+ / 0-)
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    Collusion between the gov't and BP have been quite evident.

  •  Sheesh (0+ / 0-)

    If federal law made BP 100% responsible for the damages caused by a failure in their offshore drilling, this would have been solved weeks ago. But hey, the government is in control as the leak may continue until August.

  •  Love your framing of this (0+ / 0-)

    People will argue whether this is appropriate or not, but that's not the point.  Getting this meme out there is more than worth it.

    It's not the 9-11 part that's important -- that's just what gets attention.  It's the corporate part that goes along for the ride that we need to get out there.

    A lot of people are too prissy about this.  We need to be a lot less squeamish, and a lot more aggressive, in the way we use language.

    But by now, we know how the Obama administration deals with those who would destroy it: it goes straight for the capillaries. --Krugman

    by mbayrob on Sun May 30, 2010 at 07:55:39 PM PDT

  •  It is Obama's 911 and Katrina. (0+ / 0-)

    911 because it is an opportunity to change the direction of the nation on the oil problem that is demonstrably killing the nation with oil wars and catastrophic destruction. An opportunity and challenge Obama has failed to meet.

    Katrina because Obama's response has been incompetent from day one.  Sitting like a stooge while "Brownie" BP lies about it from day one.  This is day 41 and Obama has no clue how much oil is coming out, how big the disaster really is.

    Obama has made the catastrophe unbelievably worse with his approval of use of undersea dispersant toxins that have created billion gallon mini-seas of Obama's toxic brew that are sweeping around the Gulf killing everything in their path.

    Phillipe Cousteau is diving in it, giving a report when Obama should have 1,000 Navy divers in it, tracking it, measuring it.

    Obama won't even stop BP from CONTINUING to pump the toxic disperant adding to the under sea oceans of toxic waste.

  •  Links to BEST solutions I've seen so far (0+ / 0-)

    This marine biologist/community activist wraps it up really well:

    http://www.c-span.org/...

    Riki Ott, PhD talks about trying to get Exxon to pay up.....how the local community healed itself....and how, as Al Gore said, we can't fix the global warming problem until we fix the democracy problem.

    Her own website links to:
    http://movetoamend.org/

    Amendment to separate Corporations and State.

    Very well done!

    I'd say that for Kossacks the C-SPAN video should be REQUIRED VIEWING.

    Media Reform Action Link http://stopbigmedia.com/

    by LNK on Sun May 30, 2010 at 08:45:33 PM PDT

  •  This is our Chernobyl. n/t (0+ / 0-)
  •  Quibble: "Corporations aren't inherently evil" (0+ / 0-)

    I say "guilty until proven responsible, ethical and fair".

    Saul Alinsky:
    Power is not in what the establishment has, but in what you think it has.

    by shpilk on Sun May 30, 2010 at 09:57:47 PM PDT

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