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As both Rachel Maddow and Steve Benen have pointed out, all Republicans are Jim Bunning, now. Remember how crazy he was back in March? How the rest of the Republicans in the Senate sort of looked the other way in embarrassment.

The right-wing Kentuckian soon became the subject of widespread ridicule, and a symbol of all that is wrong with the modern-day Senate. It didn't help when Bunning flipped off a journalist who dared to ask the senator to explain his position, nor when Bunning told one of his colleagues, imploring him to be reasonable, "Tough sh*t."

After about a week, Bunning ended his little tantrum, the bill advanced, benefits to the jobless were extended, and thousands of furloughed workers Bunning had sent home without pay were able to get back to work.

But let's pause to appreciate what's become evident since -- Bunning's absurd behavior has spread like a cancer, to the point that every single member of the Senate Republican conference, and one confused conservative Democrat, is taking the exact same position he took in late February and early March.

We've gone from one erratic senator flipping off a reporter to an entire party caucus flipping off millions of Americans. We've gone from a seemingly unstable lawmaker telling a colleague, "Tough sh*t" to the entire Republican conference telling the whole country, "Tough sh*t."

Congrats, Ben Nelson, Olympia Snowe, Susan Collins, Scott Brown and all of the rest of you "moderates" in the Senate. You're all Jim Bunning now.

Originally posted to Daily Kos on Fri Jun 25, 2010 at 02:52 PM PDT.

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  •  I would include every Dem senator as well. (14+ / 0-)

    you want money for your stinkin wars?  Then we'll attach it to a massive jobs bill.  You vote it down, the war is over.  simple as that.  get a clue.

    Republicans===the party of the 1% rich people in America. Or in other words..The Party of NO!

    by jalapeno on Fri Jun 25, 2010 at 02:54:05 PM PDT

    •  Play hardball. The Republicans are taking a (1+ / 0-)
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      bear83

      tough negotiating stance.  Democrats need to learn to do that with conservative priorities.  Instead they just cave.  So you're exactly right.  Want to piss away a few hundred billion in the sands over there?  Well- then we're going to need you to sign off on investing a few hundred billion into Main Street over here.

      If government is small enough to drown in a bathtub, then it's too small to clean up the Gulf.

      by electricgrendel on Fri Jun 25, 2010 at 03:37:14 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Are there any Democrats in Maine (11+ / 0-)

    who could possibly take out Snowe in 2012?

    You don't bring a knife to a gunfight and you don't bring a chicken to the doctor.

    by beltane on Fri Jun 25, 2010 at 02:54:37 PM PDT

  •  The specter of Limbaugh intimidates the wussies. (3+ / 0-)
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    kitebro, Brooke In Seattle, beltane
  •  We need to raise awareness. (6+ / 0-)

    Any of these cretins that are up for re-election need to have this action (or lack thereof) jammed down their throats in TV and radio ads. At the very least, we need to knock them off of their gilded pedestals.

    Come To Arizona - It's a DRY Hate!

    by kitebro on Fri Jun 25, 2010 at 02:56:08 PM PDT

  •  "Revolution, revolution, we welcome you..." (4+ / 0-)

    La majestueuse égalité des lois, qui interdit au riche comme au pauvre de coucher sous les ponts, de mendier dans les rues et de voler du pain.

       * The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal bread.
             o Anatole France, Le Lys Rouge [The Red Lily] (1894), ch. 7

    All evil needs to succeed is for good people to say "the votes aren't there in the Senate."

    by Jacques on Fri Jun 25, 2010 at 02:57:25 PM PDT

  •  And Mainers will still vote for (11+ / 0-)

    Snowe and Collins. Mainers have been fed the line that those two are moderates. They're not. Plenty of people who voted for Obama voted for Collins, too. Tom Allen should be our Senator, but he's not.

    "The greatest service which can be rendered any country is to add an useful plant to its culture" -- Thomas Jefferson

    by tommurphy on Fri Jun 25, 2010 at 02:57:49 PM PDT

  •  The senate should be dissolved.. (5+ / 0-)

    Completely dysfucntional and corrupt. They always have the votes for wars and tax cuts to corporations. But never to actually help the actual citizenry of the country.

  •  We have to pund this message home in the weeks (3+ / 0-)
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    HeyMikey, skyounkin, Jeff Y

    leading up to the November elections.

    If there is no accountability for those who authorized torture, we can no longer say that we are a nation of laws, not men.

    by MikePhoenix on Fri Jun 25, 2010 at 03:02:23 PM PDT

  •  And yet we weaken a FinReg bill to help get 3 (3+ / 0-)
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    skyounkin, Jeff Y, CA Berkeley WV

    of them --Brown and the ME ladies, to vote for it.

    They are the king makers, I guess.....

  •  where are the unemployed republicans ?? (4+ / 0-)
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    Jeff Y, Egalitare, CA Berkeley WV, JL

    why are they not being heard from about the conduct of their own lousy party ??

    "teabaggers say: i want my country back. well, i say: i want my country forward! ... " (bill.maher)

    by CoEcoCe on Fri Jun 25, 2010 at 03:05:06 PM PDT

    •  Probably because they are idiots! (2+ / 0-)
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      HeyMikey, Jeff Y

      After all, you said they were Republicans.

      •  we're all idiots... but WHY are they silent about (3+ / 0-)
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        kpardue, Jeff Y, Egalitare

        it ? the teaparty yells about the deficit.. i suspect an unemployed republican would prefer an extension of the safety-net during a massive global recession over a fiscal-gap that can be closed by re-calibrating our tax levels.

        "teabaggers say: i want my country back. well, i say: i want my country forward! ... " (bill.maher)

        by CoEcoCe on Fri Jun 25, 2010 at 03:11:16 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

        •  Teabaggers are fanatics in control of the GOP (0+ / 0-)

          Frothing at the mouth fanatics don't think like normal people.

          Its like people who are really devoutly religious: if you stop being faithful because of a little doubt or difficulty, then you must not really be faithful.

          Its US vs THEM: US is good, THEM are evil.  If for one second you think US might be wrong, then you become one of THEM.

          And it doesn't help that US looks a lot like U.S.

    •  Here read this, there are Republicans mad (2+ / 0-)
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    •  They're still voting Republican (0+ / 0-)

      Poor Republicans have been voting for decades for a party which has as its stated goal the removal of all laws which protect the poor, the increasing of taxes on the poor, and the removal of all government services which benefit the poor (which includes such things as the police, the fire departments, and the taxpayer-funded, no "user fee" roads).

      Unemployed Republicans have been voting Republican because they've only been unemployed for a few years now.  Not that a decade of unemployment could shift them from voting for the guys who brought them their unemployment.

      If getting screwed by the GOP for thirty years didn't convince them to stop voting Republican, then a little hiccup like unemployment, starvation, and getting the electricity shut off in the middle of summer isn't going to make them think voting against their own best interests has suddenly turned into a BAD IDEA.

  •  Ed Schultz (17+ / 0-)

    just called them "Political Terrorists." That's the best description I've heard.

    I'd like to make that stick.

    The news: whether you like it or not. -- James Poniewozik

    by RhodaA on Fri Jun 25, 2010 at 03:05:59 PM PDT

    •  And its high time... (5+ / 0-)
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      ...to start dealing with them like we would deal with terrorists!

    •  they use fear to push their agenda. (5+ / 0-)

      just like terrorists. they think in absolutist term, just like terrorists. they claim that God is on their side, just like ... you know who....
      who won the civil-war ??

      "teabaggers say: i want my country back. well, i say: i want my country forward! ... " (bill.maher)

      by CoEcoCe on Fri Jun 25, 2010 at 03:08:20 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  The only fear (0+ / 0-)

        is that of Big-Boy Pants(tm) Democrats afraid of anything that approaches populist, leftist politics.

        Even here, I dont think fear is operative.  I think it's just that Dems are caught in a web of turgid corruption undergirded with studied apathy.  All their "politicking" is aimed at the same "centrism" that has Bunning's position moving from extreme to normal.

        No one is scared of anything.  Dems are in the tank.

        Please don't feed the security state.

        •  The function of the Democratic Party (0+ / 0-)

          has become, first and foremost, to make sure that the Republicans don't look too bad -- it least on any real issue.

          Sure, you get some sniping around the edges.  Mostly apolitical, partisan bs.  At most you get a "politics" of progress reduced to vapid identity politics triumphalism, no matter that all the wins there consist of the oppressed embracing "centrist" Reagan revolution dumbassery, across the spectrum of real political issues (economy, fascism, etc.) as the cost of inclusion.  

          See Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton.

          Meanwhile, real political opportunities, opportunities for real hope, real change, and a real, necessary, possible correction go begging.

          Thanks Dems!  STill doin' a heckuva job.

          --
          GWB

          Please don't feed the security state.

          •  the made a decision early to play nice (0+ / 0-)

            with republicans because they wanted to mitigate an eventual republican congress. but in an ironic twist, that may become a self-made prophecy. by demoralizing the massive coalition for change that voted for them in 06' & 08'.
            all they needed to do to be successful was to follow their own campaign slogans and platforms. there is still time to do that.

            "teabaggers say: i want my country back. well, i say: i want my country forward! ... " (bill.maher)

            by CoEcoCe on Fri Jun 25, 2010 at 03:56:48 PM PDT

            [ Parent ]

            •  If "playing nice" (0+ / 0-)

              is synonymous with "flunky" you might be on to something.

              There has been time all along for Dems to do the right thing which would also be the political thing.  

              Plenty of time.  Decades.  Certainly during and in the aftermath of the Bushco debacle, Dems could have risen to the occasion.  To possibility.

              Still waiting.

              Unfortunately, neither "right" nor "political" seems to be within the Democratic makeup.  At some point, you have to wonder why.  

              At some point, we might begin to consider that what we're getting out of these Dems isn't politics at all, but sabotage.  The alternative, that somehow "conservative" ideas and values are just too compelling to overcome, is of course ridiculous.

              Please don't feed the security state.

  •  The Wingnutters want America to fail (5+ / 0-)

    They don't serve the people, they serve Billionaires, Mega Corporations, Big Oil, the Military Industrial Complex etc. And their "base" is nothing more than useful idiots to them.

    "Load up on guns, bring your friends. It's fun to lose and to pretend" - Kurt Cobain

    by Jeff Y on Fri Jun 25, 2010 at 03:06:10 PM PDT

  •  How will the Dems fix this? (8+ / 0-)

    I wrote to Feinstein and got a ridiculous form letter in return:

    Thank you for writing to urge Congress to introduce a 5th tier extension of unemployment insurance (UI) benefits. Your correspondence is important to me, and I welcome the opportunity to respond.

    I understand the difficulties that many Californians face when their UI benefits expire. UI benefits are crucial in providing assistance to unemployed individuals while they search for employment. California has been particularly hard hit by the economic downturn and faces an unemployment rate of 12.6 percent.

    Since the economic downturn began in 2008, Congress has enacted a number of measures dealing with UI benefits, and extended the number of weeks for UI benefits to a total of 99 weeks, which I have supported. Most recently, the Continuing Extension Act of 2010 (Public Law 111-157) was signed into law on April 15, 2010. This law extended UI benefits through June 2, 2010, and the COBRA health insurance subsidy and the National Flood Insurance through May 31, 2010.

    The "Tax Extenders Act of 2009" (H.R 4213), passed the Senate on March 10, 2010. This bill would extend UI benefits, the COBRA health insurance subsidy, and other tax provisions through the end of the year. This bill must now be considered by the House of Representatives, and likely by the Senate again, before it goes to the President for a final signature.

    Currently, no legislation has been introduced in Congress to expand UI benefits beyond 99 weeks. However, in an effort to stimulate job creation, the Hiring Incentives to Restore Employment Act of 2010 (Public Law 111-147) was signed into law on March 18, 2010. It provides $15 billion for payroll tax forgiveness for employers hiring and retaining new workers, and expands the Build America Bonds program to help state and local governments secure funding for infrastructure projects. Please know I am doing everything I can at the Federal level to create job opportunities.

    Again, thank you for writing to me. Should you have any further questions or concerns, please do not hesitate to contact my Washington, D.C. office at (202) 224-3841. Best regards.

    I will be calling tomorrow to ask what SHE is going to do to help the millions who just lost their UI!

    •  PS Feinstein wants it both ways, as usual (4+ / 0-)

      I wrote to her in response to this comment:

      ...."the deficit is becoming an overriding concern.

      "We have 99 weeks of unemployment insurance now. The question comes, how long do you continue that before people just don't go back to work at all?" she said. "Unemployment insurance has never carried the heavy weight that it does right now, the cost that it does right now, so people are concerned. And there isn't a lot of documentation on this. Last night for the first time I had somebody from a company tell me they've offered jobs to individuals and they said well, 'I want to not come back to work until my unemployment insurance runs out.' So we need to start looking at these things. And, we need to start paying for it."


      She uses an acedotal story to defend cutting off unemployment insurance to millions? I am not pleased.

  •  How to outflank GOP & extend unemployment benefit (6+ / 0-)

    Pay for the unemployment benefits by closing 1 US military base in Germany.

    Who are we defending Germans from? Belgium?

    And Angela Merkel right now is at the G20 refusing to heed Obama's call for more deficit stimulus spending. So why should we stimulate Germany's economy with our own deficit spending?

    Have our US soldiers and airmen (uh, airpeople?) come home and spend their payrolls in some US swing state with a shitload of electoral college votes, preferably where there's also an especially close US senate race in 2012, instead of in Bavaria or Lower Saxony.

    Shameless pimping link to diary with slightly more details.

    "The true strength of our nation comes not from the might of our arms or the scale of our wealth, but from the enduring power of our ideals." - Barack Obama

    by HeyMikey on Fri Jun 25, 2010 at 03:09:30 PM PDT

    •  i hate to say it, but we're gonna have to lower (2+ / 0-)
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      NealB, RhodaA

      the cap on tax levels, from 250k to 150k. and exponentially more effective taxes on wealth-creation and actual economic improvement. not to mention that the 100k cap on social-security is an obvious place to start. there should be no cap, rich people can afford it.

      "teabaggers say: i want my country back. well, i say: i want my country forward! ... " (bill.maher)

      by CoEcoCe on Fri Jun 25, 2010 at 03:15:34 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  I have 3 weeks left of UI (9+ / 0-)

    before I hit the federal extension - which I 'm not going to get unless this filibuster ends. My neighbor runs out this week. Both of us have been unemployed for well over a year. Both of us send out resumes by the metric ton. At this point, I'll take a job at freakin' McDonald's. We're holding on to our home by the skin of our teeth.

    I want people screaming from the rooftops that Republicans are playing politics with peoples lives. My neighbors are very close to being homeless.

    Why are our Dems NOT requiring a real filibuster? Why are they not making the Republicans work for this?

    "Poverty or wealth can make all the differences in securing the substance or only the shadow of constitutional protections." -Wiley Rutledge

    by asimbagirl on Fri Jun 25, 2010 at 03:14:48 PM PDT

    •  Real Filibuster (5+ / 0-)

      Why are our Dems NOT requiring a real filibuster? Why are they not making the Republicans work for this?

      I'm not excusing it, but I learned from David Waldman's articles what a real filibuster entails.

      Essentially, in order to force a non-stop floor filibuster, you need to maintain a quorum. That burden lies on the Dems. The GOPs would need only 1 or 2 on the floor at any given time, while the rest can take a nap and then switch senators. But the Dems would need 51 on the floor at all times. Still, I'd like to see the Dems do it.

      It's more complicated than that; it's in the Congress Matters archives.

      The news: whether you like it or not. -- James Poniewozik

      by RhodaA on Fri Jun 25, 2010 at 03:26:12 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  Filibuster would (1+ / 0-)
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      asimbagirl

      lead inexorably to real politics and an engaged populace.  

      This is an untenable position from which Big-Boy Pants(tm) Dems might have to actually perform, instead of hiding behind proceedural excuses as they serve their real constituency*.

      *you ain't it.

      Best to keep the 60 vote hurdle abstract, ironclad, insurmountable, inscrutable, and above all apolitical.

      Don't think on it too long or hard.  Only politicians and partisan careerists can really grasp this stuff.  All you need to know is that Dems are pursuing the 'centrist' way, that works so well*!

      *just not for you.

      Please don't feed the security state.

  •  Dear Democrats who want my money (4+ / 0-)
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    kimoconnor, Living in Gin, speak2me, Keori

    for their campaigns:

    I really would love to help, but between seeing you collectively fail at so many important aspects of governance discourages me from 'investing' in the party and your campaign (with a handful of notable exceptions) and that I'm using my discretionary income to help my under-employed goddaughter survive while making ruinous student loan payments, helping a couple of friends keep up on their mortgage payments when their income went down by 60% more than 2 years ago, contributing a large chunk of money to the well-being and medical needs of a friend hit by several life-threatening illnesses that left him in the hospital for weeks, with no insurance, and no income (and as a freelancer not eligible for disability or any short or long term assistance from the state or federal government),  plus sending a few extra bucks to the local food bank, I just don't have a lot of cash to spare anymore.

    Here's hoping you figure out I'm not alone pretty soon, and start kicking Republican objections and obstructions aside to start making life and work better for us middle class Democrats while we still exist. Because too damn many of us feel like we're bailing with a teacup while the damn boat is sinking and the Morgans and Vanderbilts are taking up the last seats in the life boats, if you get my meaning, if you catch my drift.

    very truly a liberal, progressive Democrat,

    NM Red

    •  The alternative to helping Dems is much worse (0+ / 0-)

      If you're not giving money to the Dems, then you're essentially getting the GOP elected.

      There is no such thing as a "third party", except the kind which gets one of the two major parties most like it not elected to public office.  Think Ross Perot for the GOP, Ralph Nader for the Dems, and now the Teabaggers for the GOP.

      Not giving money to the party which is closest to your interests is making sure the party which is least like you gets more money, increasing their chances of getting elected.

      So, ironically, the best way to prevent bad things from happening is to pick the candidate most like you, not punish him for not being exactly like you.

  •  Gotta blame Dems tho (2+ / 0-)
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    Make those fuckers stand for the filibusters and there wouldn't be any. Don't Dems get it? GOPs are lazy. We make it too easy for them

  •  Only difference: they're giving workers the bird (3+ / 0-)

    A big, fat middle finger coming right out of the House of Lords Senate.

  •  GOP =GREED OVER PRINCIPLE (3+ / 0-)
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    That you Rep Grayson,that is the best description of the GOP yet!!!!

    New improved bipartisanship! Now comes in a convenient suppository!!! -unbozo

    by Unbozo on Fri Jun 25, 2010 at 03:28:13 PM PDT

  •  The constantly aggrieved Jim Bunning Party (1+ / 0-)
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    CA Berkeley WV

    One or a handful of the petulant, pouting, and self-absorbed can destroy our country's future.

    The rules of the US Senate gives them that authority and it is why the rules of the US Senate should be effing abolished and rewritten from scratch.  I'd go for a Constitutional Amendment abolishing the whole stinking Senate, at this point, since narcissists are not all Republican.  I don't even like many Senators of my own Party, nor those of my own state, including the Democrat here in Florida.

    The founding fathers, despite their wisdom, apparently did not expect the vast wealth that could overwhelm honor, decency, love of country and of fellow human beings.

    The US Senate has become the root of all evil in our country.  It's becoming impossible to fix anything when a single dud like Jim Bunning, or a few other bitter Senator-victims wanting to get back at somebody, can be bribed with a pittance to gum up every attempt to run representative government.

  •  Snowe calling for standalone UI bill (3+ / 0-)
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    Buncha bullshit?

    Probably.

    I say we call her on it. Immediately.

    File cloture for it now. Make her vote for it, or against it, and write the rest of your campaign ads for the season.

    •  No guarantees that her "Twin" is on board ... (0+ / 0-)

      ... let alone Brown or Nelson.

      Therefore it is bullshit, just to the GOP to assert that "all options were not explored"  on Sunday Morning.

      "Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and it never will." -- Frederick Douglass

      by Egalitare on Fri Jun 25, 2010 at 05:01:02 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Yeah- but back then the unemployed were able to (5+ / 0-)

    be helped.  Now they're just no-good grifters living a life of funemployment!

    Heartless bastards in the Senate.

    If government is small enough to drown in a bathtub, then it's too small to clean up the Gulf.

    by electricgrendel on Fri Jun 25, 2010 at 03:33:50 PM PDT

  •  Make it mandatory - every Senator next recess must (1+ / 0-)
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    shed everything but clothes on back and live in a homeless shelter for one month.
    ( including spouse & children at home too )  Then we will see what tune they sing.

    " It's shocking what Republicans will do to avoid being the 2012 presidential nominee."

    by jwinIL14 on Fri Jun 25, 2010 at 03:38:30 PM PDT

  •  "Why Are Senate Democrats Letting Republicans... (0+ / 0-)

    ...Ruin Our Economy?"

    Jon Walker at FireDogLake is the first person I've read today asking the obvious question. Given Stabenow's statement yesterday that Republicans are clearly using this vote to kill what little hope remains of economic recovery, why aren't the Democrats in the Senate calling their bluff and using the nuclear option to bypass the filibuster?

    If ever there was an issue that justified pushing the button, surely the devastation suffered by millions of Americans that have already been cut off from the unemployment benefits, and the millions that will follow while the Senate is on vacation next month...surely this is an issue that justifies it.

    We're not talking about judicial appointments. We're talking about ruining the lives of millions of Americans by years of Republican misrule and corporate greed.

    Democrats can try to blame Republicans, but unless and until they are willing to use every tool at their disposal to stop this insanity, including the nuclear option, Democrats are as culpable as Republicans.

    •  Firedog lake is a joke.. (2+ / 0-)
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      You need to open your eyes. Repukes are the enemy.

    •  McCaskill has vote to get rid of "secret holds" (0+ / 0-)

      but what you suggest is not going to happen, as much as it pains me, until january. the senate would be even more dysfunctional, if you can imagine the house of lords we have being more of anything, if biden were to sit in his chair and dare the parliamentarian to rule against him. remember they have been having hearings for months on the move by the freshman to change the rules in january.

      mike manfeld and bobby byrd willed senate rules changes after a setup of things like harkins's previous bill. that was in a time when party bosses picked senators more than activist primary of convention candidates from the wings.

      the middle class has be pissed on for thirty years since the the first stockman budget. yes i think they gop has overplayed their hand. but the structural problems in the economy are deeper than any one piece of fiscal policy legislation can unwind.

  •  Eavesdropping on Haley Barbour... (0+ / 0-)

    ...I remember when I was doing a simply little story about the deadline to file for a congressional race, and was in the lobby of the state GOP HQ in Jackson, waiting for the Republican chairman for a quick interview back in March.

    And down the hall, I clearly heard Gov. Barbour talking on the phone. He was hustling. Calling Thad Cochran, Roger Wicker, other governors, talking national strategy about health care, spending, and the like. It wasn't a TV or a radio, it was definitely Barbour, just about 30 feet from me. One of the things I heard him say?

    "We're gonna break the Democrats' back in 2010."

    You better believe Haley, with his experience and stature, is calling the shots for national Republicans. I can guarantee that the UI issue is a concerted political effort, devised by Haley, to worsen the economy until it explodes, just in time for an anti-incumbency "throw-the-bums-out" mentality in November. And that will hurt the Dems more than the 'Thugs, if they have their way.

    "God made us number one 'cause he loves us the best. Well maybe he should go bless someone else for awhile, give us a rest." -Ben Folds

    by Free Chicken and Beer on Fri Jun 25, 2010 at 03:47:36 PM PDT

  •  Amazing how they can filibuster (1+ / 0-)
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    NealB

    without filibustering.   I don't recall any 24 hour debates.  

    Harry Reid just folds like a cheap suit over every single threat they make.   Make them stand there and filibuster.

    The United States: A wholly owned subsidiary of British Petroleum.

    by Beelzebud on Fri Jun 25, 2010 at 03:49:27 PM PDT

    •  read up on David Waldman's take on whether (0+ / 0-)

      that can really happened, because without a quorum the Senate adjourns. They just pretend no one notices most of the time. SO 51 Democrats would have to guard against a GO(B)P motion to adjourn, which take precedent over others and is not debatable, (I think), and yet just one lowly flipping obstructionist to object from times to time to moving the along.

      Frustrating as hockeysticks. Don't know if this was a result of the change from "present and voting" to "elected and sworn" in the head count hurdle for cloture.

      •  so, cloture isn't a vote of those attending? (1+ / 0-)
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        this suggests it's 60% of total senate, not those in attendance...
        that's an obscenely difficult hurdle

        republicians believe government can't work, when they're in power, they're right

        by askyron on Fri Jun 25, 2010 at 04:26:56 PM PDT

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        •  it used to be 2/3 of those present, and yes (0+ / 0-)

          it was hard and not used much since it was.  only a handfull of times over a century. when the rules were changed in the 1980's ( i think that is the decade) it was lowered to 3/5 (or that 60 we now) and the rules working changed to the "of a 100" standard"

          now changing the rules of the senate is still the old hurdle

          RULE XXII

          "Is it the sense of the Senate that the debate shall be brought to a close?" And if that question shall be decided in the affirmative by three-fifths of the Senators duly chosen and sworn -- except on a measure or motion to amend the Senate rules, in which case the necessary affirmative vote shall be two-thirds of the Senators present and voting -- then said measure, motion, or other matter pending before the Senate, or the unfinished business, shall be the unfinished business to the exclusion of all other business until disposed of.

          if seats are vacant then there is rounding involved, and they always round up.

  •  I include the DAMNocrats who aid and abet!!! (1+ / 0-)
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    Never walk into a public restroom while breathing through your mouth.

    by quityurkidding on Fri Jun 25, 2010 at 03:50:34 PM PDT

  •  I am sure that this will not turn out as well (0+ / 0-)

    as the West Virginia "We are all Carnacki" campaign.

  •  Salt of the Earth - Bettye Lavette video (1+ / 0-)
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    Remember Bettye Lavette at the inauguration? She has a new CD 'Interpretations: The British Rock Songbook' - she does a cover of the Salt of the Earth by the Rolling Stones from their 1968 album, Beggars Banquet. The thought of it when I heard the news about the defeat of the unemployment benefit extension.

    If you haven't seen her performance of Love Reign O'er Mewhen the Kennedy Center honored The Who, give it a listen.

  •  I don't regularly watch Ed Schultz (0+ / 0-)

    ..but it resonated with me when he said that long term unemployed people are "losing hope."

    Playing politics with people's lives is wrong beyond the pale.

    Fuck

    Them.

    More and better? I'd settle for just better.

    by Anthony Page aka SecondComing on Fri Jun 25, 2010 at 04:30:25 PM PDT

  •  There are 100 senators and at least 41 of them (0+ / 0-)

    are afraid of the number 99 it appears.

  •  Captain Trips Visur (0+ / 0-)

    They can't help it. They were exposed to Bunning through having those damned caucuses behind closed doors.

    Cut to the Mo Udall line: The difference between a caucus and a cactus is that with a cactus the pricks are on the outside. Anyways,

    The Bunning Strain is 100 percent communicable, and it doesn't help that Scott Brown broke the damn quarantine by barging in univited. Don't, b y theway, schedule a baseball game against the Senate GOP Caucus. They will all through hard, inside pitches, not give a flip whether they hit you or not, and then whine about run support because their teammates (read: everyone else in the bleeping country) doesn't really like them.

    There is hope. Alan Simpson clearly had Bunning Strain years before Bunning even came to the House, but recovered enough that the Senate GOP Caucus shunted him aside as majority whip in favor of Confederate Cheerleader Boy.

    There's not much hope. Bunning's people have denied he has Alzheimer's, which suggests that all that mean dementia crap is either simply how he is or is a symnpton of the Syndrome.

    Have you heard? The vice president's gone mad. - Bob Dylan, 1966

    by textus on Sat Jun 26, 2010 at 01:16:36 PM PDT

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