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[Cross-posted at The Left Coaster.]

It was drolly, duly noted at Daily Kos last night that since both Mathew Yglesias and Markos Moulitsas had advocated Elizabeth Warren to head the new Consumer Financial Protection Bureau she was now doomed, for if one element is likely to motivate the White House, why, punching hippie bloggers while strutting around DC as the Not Liberals is one of their favorite political ploys.  Since the radical Left Coaster endorses Warren too (not that I put myself on Yglesias’ or Moulitsas’ level) her fate is apparently assured a tiny bit more.

I have deliberately avoided the topic of White House personnel decisions since the Sherrod debacle, for I was one of those who had not forgotten or forgiven the atrocious Van Jones episode.  Cowardly capitulation to Fox News thugs that abandons the careers of your people and your mission is a searing roaring mistake of unbelievable stupidity to this proudly Machiavellian liberal, I am as furiously politically upset as I have ever been, and for the sake of my sanity and rational discourse I will briefly touch upon a few relevant points and attempt to move on.

[sigh]

I so hope the White House got whiplashed in this event to smack in comprehension that the Leftist Bloggers they disdain so are anything but whatever the ridiculous DC conventional wisdom is, very likely demonstrated by this incredible exchange between two obnoxious, stupid, clueless CNN "journalists" clucking about pajama clad blogger anonymity.  This is really starting to seriously piss me off, political blogging has been around for eight years now, and at least on the liberal side a very rigorous evolutionary vetting process has left the classic solitary blogger stereotype far, far behind its humble beginnings of 2002.

Yglesias is a super-brain who did not waste a millisecond absorbing the best Ivy education the world has to offer, writing now in a semi-essayist/blogging form as a professional journalist.  Moulitsas, who I remember so well as that solitary guy in 2002, is now a vastly successful internet publisher (not just political) and author to go along with his fistful of degrees, two of them graduate. Those sickening CNN twerps couldn’t last five minutes in the pixels with Yglesias or Moulitsas, hell they make total asses outta themselves in the ludicrous television format right now, and they’re not ethically or intellectually fit to tie Yglesias’ or Moulitsas’ shoes.

Neither of which is anonymous, very few bloggers are now.  I’ve never been, by the way, I use a pseudonym because employers get very uncomfortable if I use my real name in the screens.  The goons on the right know this, of course, when I was employed at Symantec in the Bush years they’d constantly call me and harass co-workers , I had to go to HR to handle it.  I doubt I would have kept my job without a pseudonym.

Yglesias and Moulitsas didn’t get to play by the awful and sickening DC rules of journalism either, by the way, it’s okay when Republicans lie and cheat and then have a media industry enable and magnify their bullshit, but the alleged liberal side we never, ever played by those disgusting rules, nor will we.  Liberal loggers proudly use facts and reason and have never launched a lie into the mainstream news.  Don’t agree?  Show me.

No, both sides most assuredly do not do it, and the different rules, environments and ethos make the false equivalency between the right and left media environments all the more screamingly outrageous. Furthermore, liberal media adherence to truth and reason in the pixel environment has produced writers and intellects that absolutely pathetically dust the current nauseating television intellects like O’Reilly or Phillips.

Phillips is the appalling idiot who pestered an Iraqi doctor to make sure the limbless, atrociously burned boy who had lost his family understood the rationale for our lying war of endless shame.

So that when a consensus forms among "liberal" bloggers with minds and intellects like Yglesias and Moulitsas leading the way it’s almost always the best political solution for the country and Party.  2003 is long, long gone, just what exactly has stupid adherence to Fox News games given the White House? Listening to blogging left is plain good politics.

So is taking care of your base and lifting the spirits of those who are whipped and furious, like yours truly, the main thrust of Yglesias’ argument.  Whatever it takes to bludgeon the absolute necessity of appointing Warren in the wandering, dazed minds of the White House—duty to country, the little people, Party—by all the atoms in the universe make the good politics happen.

Originally posted to paradox on Tue Jul 27, 2010 at 07:39 AM PDT.

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  •  Excellent and (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    joanneleon

    much needed diary.

    The hippie punching has got to stop.

    The Teabaggers are the GOP base

    by stevej on Tue Jul 27, 2010 at 07:56:40 AM PDT

  •  A couple of things - (3+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    hooper, lordcopper, BobTrips

    If Van Jones comes out at NetRoots '10 for all the Progressive world hear and says he was not fired, but quit on his on volition. Why is that so many Progressive believe he is a liar.

    TPM

    Jones, who resigned last year after conservatives targeted him as an extreme leftist, refrained from any Obama-slamming of his own. Speaking to a large second-day crowd, Jones reminded the group that he quit and wasn't pushed out. "I resigned. I did not want to be the banana peel that the president of the United States slipped on trying to win on health care," Jones said.

    And as to Elizabeth Warren something you might want to read in the hopes that it gives you hope that she will be the nominee.

    Why Elizabeth Warren Will Likely Be Confirmed

    In the choice between changing ones mind and proving there's no need to do so, most people get busy on the proof.

    by jsfox on Tue Jul 27, 2010 at 08:01:10 AM PDT

  •  Elizabeth Warren, one of 307,000,000 Americans... (0+ / 0-)

    Out of 307 million there must be several people who could do a great job of running a government agency.  Warren sounds like she could be one of the best, but the only one?

    Seems to me that some people have put their emphasis in the wrong place, on one single candidate rather than the job to be done.

    It's like the public option.  Some felt that the public option (ill-defined as it was) was the only way to solve health care.  When the PO was dropped from the bill then the bill became a total failure for them.  And even though the bill does a tremendous amount of good (including controlling premium costs for lower/lower middle income people) they damn it.

    Best we not go the same route with Warren.  The President might choose someone else.  He might even choose someone else because he needs Warren for a different job.  

    Let's guard ourselves against seeing only one possible solution for problems.  And not tear ourselves apart when our personal favorite solution is not chosen.

    Enough of this reality crap. I voted for MAGIC!!!

    by BobTrips on Tue Jul 27, 2010 at 08:54:51 AM PDT

    •  Please (0+ / 0-)

      please stop this ridiculous rationalization for not appointing Warren.

    •  The base needs something. (0+ / 0-)

      Politically, it would be really dumb for Obama to pick anyone but Warren.

      "[R]ather high-minded, if not a bit self-referential"--The Washington Post.

      by Geekesque on Tue Jul 27, 2010 at 10:27:48 AM PDT

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      •  The base needs to get smarter... (0+ / 0-)

        I hate to think that we're as dumb as Baggers.

        We need to abandon our "this is the only solution" stance and open our minds to consider alternate ways to skin cats....

        Enough of this reality crap. I voted for MAGIC!!!

        by BobTrips on Tue Jul 27, 2010 at 10:37:30 AM PDT

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        •  I'm not saying that it might be a smart thing... (0+ / 0-)

          for Obama to appoint Warren in order to please the base.

          But should we, the base, push Obama into that corner?  Is it in our best interest to tie Obama's hands?

          Let me give a hypothetical...

          Suppose that for some reason the right is hard set against Warren.  They have an "anyone but Warren" stance.

          Now Obama knows of another half dozen excellent candidates he could pick for that job.

          So he cuts a deal with the right, no Warren but some Republican votes to pass a very important piece of legislation (think climate, immigration, campaign finance reform).

          Do we win by getting Warren and giving up important legislation?

          (And for the 'slow on the uptake' that's a hypothetical.)

          Enough of this reality crap. I voted for MAGIC!!!

          by BobTrips on Tue Jul 27, 2010 at 10:44:16 AM PDT

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          •  If something, or someone, is important to the (0+ / 0-)

            base, occasionally the Preznit needs to honor that.

            I'm sure there are other people who could do a great job.

            But we know Warren is up to it.  

            The base has had to accept a lot of compromises, shit sandwiches, and utter failures (e.g. energy).  A clear win every now and then isn't asking too much.

            "[R]ather high-minded, if not a bit self-referential"--The Washington Post.

            by Geekesque on Tue Jul 27, 2010 at 11:03:14 AM PDT

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            •  My question is... (0+ / 0-)

              Are we making Warren too important to us?

              Have we created a myth that Warren is so much better than others that we will dump on Obama if he chooses someone else and thus hurt our movement?

              (We don't truly know that Warren is up to it.  That's a belief we have based on the information we have.  There could be some sort of problem with Warren that is not public knowledge, just to point out a possibility.)

              (Energy has not been an utter failure.  A ton of money has poured into renewables and the noose has been tightened around the neck of fossil fuels.  Yes, we did not (to date) get an excellent climate bill.  But please don't dismiss progress made simply because total progress has not been yet achieved.)

              Enough of this reality crap. I voted for MAGIC!!!

              by BobTrips on Tue Jul 27, 2010 at 11:27:49 AM PDT

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              •  Anything is possible. (0+ / 0-)

                But, Warren is about as sure of a bet as there is, which is why the base wants her so much.  They're tired of "trust me" appointments.

                "[R]ather high-minded, if not a bit self-referential"--The Washington Post.

                by Geekesque on Tue Jul 27, 2010 at 11:40:25 AM PDT

                [ Parent ]

                •  I sort of, but don't quite agree... (0+ / 0-)

                  I think there's a tendency among the base to pick one solution and start treating is as the only solution.

                  Enough of this reality crap. I voted for MAGIC!!!

                  by BobTrips on Tue Jul 27, 2010 at 11:50:37 AM PDT

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                  •  Well, of course. (0+ / 0-)

                    Still, gotta throw 'em a bone here and there.

                    "[R]ather high-minded, if not a bit self-referential"--The Washington Post.

                    by Geekesque on Tue Jul 27, 2010 at 12:09:32 PM PDT

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                    •  I don't think Obama is a bone-thrower... (0+ / 0-)

                      I expect he'll make the decision which he feels best and let the chips fall where they may.  I think he long ago decided that he would rather be a one term president if that's the outcome of doing what he thinks best.

                      You might want to read what Dodd has to say about Warren - basically great for the job, but probably could not be confirmed.

                      "She's qualified, no question about that. The question is whether she's confirmable," Dodd added. "The issue is [if] you can't confirm somebody, if you go six or seven months without someone in that job, you've got a problem."

                      ...

                      "You've heard the Republicans talking about repealing this bill," Dodd said. "One of the first efforts they'd need would be to repeal this agency. If it's not set up and running, the case against it becomes easier. So you want an established entity, as quickly as you can, with credible leadership. And if you don't have that then you leave it vulnerable to the attacks. They will try to get rid of this agency, I promise you, when I'm gone. So having someone there that's established this, getting it moving in the right direction, is very, very important, or you could lose it."

                      (That is not an attack by Dodd on Warren as some have read it, but a hard nosed political analysis.)

                      Link...

                      After testing the waters Obama might come to the conclusion that Warren is not confirmable and in order to get the agency up and running appoint someone else.

                      If the base takes a "Warren or FUCK YOU OBAMA!" stance we stand to hurt ourselves.

                      Enough of this reality crap. I voted for MAGIC!!!

                      by BobTrips on Tue Jul 27, 2010 at 12:22:18 PM PDT

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                      •  I dunno. This seems like an attempt to torpedo (0+ / 0-)

                        her from Dodd.  This nonsense of pre-emptively killing any nomination that might offend Republicans has to stop.

                        "[R]ather high-minded, if not a bit self-referential"--The Washington Post.

                        by Geekesque on Tue Jul 27, 2010 at 12:33:40 PM PDT

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                        •  And I think that a very bad reading... (0+ / 0-)

                          on your part.

                          Dodd gives his analysis of how he perceives political realities.  He talks about what he sees possible.

                          And that, in your mind, is an attempt to torpedo Warren.

                          That's exactly the type of problem that I see caused by the base's "only one acceptable solution" stance.  Your "only solution" is not upheld by Dodd, therefore Dodd is the enemy.

                          (Yes, I know I took that a bit to the extreme.  Just trying to underline my point.)

                          Enough of this reality crap. I voted for MAGIC!!!

                          by BobTrips on Tue Jul 27, 2010 at 12:46:37 PM PDT

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                          •  If Senators want someone to be confirmed, they (0+ / 0-)

                            don't talk about how they can't be confirmed.

                            "[R]ather high-minded, if not a bit self-referential"--The Washington Post.

                            by Geekesque on Tue Jul 27, 2010 at 12:57:58 PM PDT

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                          •  Or if they know someone can't be confirmed... (0+ / 0-)

                            they might drop a big hint prior to taking another route.

                            We should avoid making absolute statements when all we know is bits and pieces.

                            These people are not idiots.  They spend a lot of time counting noses and arranging votes before they go public....

                            Enough of this reality crap. I voted for MAGIC!!!

                            by BobTrips on Tue Jul 27, 2010 at 01:02:59 PM PDT

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                          •  We don't know someone can't be confirmed (0+ / 0-)

                            until we nominate them.

                            Who the hell is going to put their gonads on the line because someone is too outspoken on behalf of the middle class?

                            Seriously, make the Republicans take that position.  It's political malpractice to do otherwise.

                            "[R]ather high-minded, if not a bit self-referential"--The Washington Post.

                            by Geekesque on Tue Jul 27, 2010 at 01:25:13 PM PDT

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                          •  "We" might not... (0+ / 0-)

                            Senate and House leaders clearly do.

                            If Harry Reid or Nancy Pelosi say that they either have or don't have the votes to pass a bill they are rarely wrong.  If they take a bill to vote knowing it will fail then that's a political move to put the other side on record.

                            Almost always the actual voting is a mere formality.  The count has been made prior to the bill being taken to vote.

                            Notice the long limbo periods as bills hang in the balance and how they often suddenly get voted up or die....

                            Enough of this reality crap. I voted for MAGIC!!!

                            by BobTrips on Tue Jul 27, 2010 at 01:30:46 PM PDT

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                          •  Call their bluff. (0+ / 0-)

                            Make them pay a price for shilling for Wall Street for once.

                            "[R]ather high-minded, if not a bit self-referential"--The Washington Post.

                            by Geekesque on Tue Jul 27, 2010 at 01:33:21 PM PDT

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                          •  I don't see this having any political value... (0+ / 0-)

                            Almost no one outside 'Kosville' has a clue who Warren is or why her appointment is wanted.

                            I can't see a Republican blocking being valuable in the next round of elections.

                            Better, I suspect, to put a good person in the post and get on with the job of protecting consumers.  Warren will get lots of credit for getting the agency created and can go on to do other good work.

                            The big Wall Street shill vote will be the one against the new disclosure bill.  That one will be easy to explain to voters.

                            Enough of this reality crap. I voted for MAGIC!!!

                            by BobTrips on Tue Jul 27, 2010 at 01:38:25 PM PDT

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                          •  It would be a high profile vote-- (0+ / 0-)

                            plenty of media coverage.

                            "[R]ather high-minded, if not a bit self-referential"--The Washington Post.

                            by Geekesque on Tue Jul 27, 2010 at 01:56:44 PM PDT

                            [ Parent ]

                          •  You think? (0+ / 0-)

                            This issue getting any airplay outside of liberal/progressive blogs?

                            (I don't watch TV and our local paper has almost no 'out of area' news.)

                            Enough of this reality crap. I voted for MAGIC!!!

                            by BobTrips on Tue Jul 27, 2010 at 05:30:41 PM PDT

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