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DailyKos diarist, Daisy Cutter, broke a story about John Joseph Jay, Board member in Stop the Islamization of America (SIOA), the organization spear-heading opposition to the Islamic cultural center that is to be built two blocks away from Ground Zero.

In the story he reveals and exposes John Joseph Jay's genocidal statements against liberals and Muslims, such as "kill all your liberal relatives and Muslims." The story was picked up by Loonwatch, and then some Dutch websites and newspapers and also the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC).

Daisycutter's original article provided a link to a PDF file that showed John Jay was one of the founding members of Freedom Defense Initiative (FDI), the parent organization of SIOA.

Since that time Jay has been doing everything humanly possible to try and persuade people to not believe their own eyes. He even went so far as to write that he is not "even a member of SIOA." In this attempt he has been assisted by arch-Islamophobe, Robert Spencer (co-founder of SIOA and FDI), who Robert Dreyfuss of Nation magazine recently labeled, "an extremist, right-wing anti-muslim rabble rouser."

However, it seems both Jay and Spencer have been caught red-handed in a swamp of lies and contradictions.

Spencerwatch breaks it all down,

Spencer Contradicts SIOA Board Member John "Genocidal" Jay

Another instance of Robert Spencer stepping into a pool of lies, something that is as commonplace these days as Pamela Geller “hating Muslims on her blog and then claiming she loves Muslims on TV.”

This time it is in relation to a post, originally from Daisy Cutter at the DailyKos who exposed John Jay, founding member of FDI and a board member of SIOA for his genocidal predilections. Loonwatch posted the piece on its site and after that it was in the news with various Dutch websites (Krapuul foremost) and papers picking up on it, as well as the Southern Poverty Law Center.

Spencer claims John Jay has no role in FDI or SIOA, and that he doesn’t advocate “carte blanche” murder of all liberals and Muslims. Thanks Spencer, at least his advocacy isn’t “carte blanche.” Is that supposed to make us feel better?

   

Jay is, contrary to the hysterical claims that are circulating now, not a founder or co-founder of SIOA. He has no role in the running of the organization. And he does not advocate carte blanche killing of one’s liberal relatives, nor of Muslims.

Yet he contradicts himself in the very same post,

   

Hamas-linked CAIR and dhimmi Leftist jihad-enablers such as the Daily Kos, longtime CAIR tool Charles Johnson of Little Green Footballs, and the Southern Poverty Law Center have been in a tizzy the last few days over some rather outlandish misrepresentations of some writings by John Jay, a member of the SIOA Board.

Spencer says John Jay is on the Board and then wants us to believe that he has nothing to do with the organization. Strange isn’t it?

John Jay wrote this before Spencer’s most recent blog,

   

i was not  and am not either a founder or a co-founder of s.i.o.a., that sort of thing being entirely beyond my reach. and i am not an officer or employee or even a member of s.i.o.a, though i am an enthusiastic proponent and supporter of its actions and goals. i consider pamela geller, founder and executive director, and, robert spencer, co-founder and associate director my mentors and champions of the anti-jihad movement, and so, therefore, it is with regret that i say i have no association in running s.i.o.a.

See the contradiction? Spencer admits Jay is a board member where as Jay scrambles to try to clear SIOA of any affiliations to him and his genocidal rantings.

Even more proof of John Jay’s involvement is the document that has John Jay’s signature on it along with Spencer, Pamela Geller, Anders Gravers and Rich Davis as the “persons associating together to form the corporation.”

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The corporation in question is FDI which is the parent organization of SIOA. The document is no longer online but we have a copy.

Originally posted to Devon Moore on Wed Aug 11, 2010 at 01:55 PM PDT.

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