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Recently (in a relative sense)  I wrote a diary about a rather unpleasant experience I had when I was much younger, and I wound up getting a lot of really good feedback that led me to take a closer look at just when my weight was going up and down, and when it started going up and basically kept going up.

That led me very quickly to the realization that there was probably a good chance that my bad experience and my weight gain were actually quite possibly tied together.  I knew, in the mechanical sense, that my weight gain was tied to A) eating too much, and B) Doing too little to burn off the calories I was taking in.  But I never looked beyond the mechanics.  I never looked for any particular reason I might be eating more, and doing less, having merely chalked it up to good tasting food, and being stuck in a lab doing research, then stuck in a cubical doing programming.

So for decades, I avoided facing my earlier problem, and for decades I ate ever more, and became ever more reclusive, dropping out of my social circles, begging off of invitations, and simply gaining ever more weight, and seemed unable to ever break the cycle.

Several months back, my decisions about goals helped me break at least a part of that cycle, and I went on what was, for me, a serious weight control plan, and although I've still been struggling more than I hoped, I've made sustained progress.  I think, though, that my newfound realizations as to some of the deeper reasons behind my weight gain in the first place, will help me let go of some of my subconscious desire to stay heavy.

Emotions and the subconscious are tricky things, and the part of my regimen that has worked the best is becoming intentionally conscious of exactly what I eat, and how much exercise I'm getting.  I would now add to that that I think becoming intentionally conscious of why I became morbidly obese in the first place, why I started eating ever more, and doing ever less, and why I don't need to do so, and really never needed to, despite what my subconscious said, are going to make staying the course and reaching my goal less of a struggle.

I would imagine that those of you who have a similar story, with some 'trigger', event related to your weight issues have either preceded me in examining that trigger, or might also benefit from doing so now, even if it's painful to recall.

300.0# Starting weight
175.0# Goal

265.0# Current Weight  
 35.0# Loss To Date

Originally posted to Ezekial 23 20 on Tue Aug 24, 2010 at 03:26 PM PDT.

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  •  Ok, so how's everybody doing tonight? nt (19+ / 0-)

    Note to self: Quit insulting people. Note to others: If I insult you, please remind me that I'm trying to stop doing that.

    by Ezekial 23 20 on Tue Aug 24, 2010 at 03:26:49 PM PDT

    •  Wow is it ever quiet in here ! (2+ / 0-)
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      RunawayRose, Ezekial 23 20

      Lets start a fight , that will bring them in .
      What should we fight about ?
      Ford vs Chevy ?

      Have you read
      The blue zones ?
      http://www.google.com/...

      How about the the pritikin diet books ?

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      by indycam on Tue Aug 24, 2010 at 04:04:57 PM PDT

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    •  I'm doing pretty good. I also know what caused (3+ / 0-)
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      RunawayRose, hpchicago, Ezekial 23 20

      my weight gain so it's easy for me to make adjustments. When I was in San Diego, I was walking everywhere and taking public transportation. Plus, I was around beautiful people who were thin. All the restaurants around me also had menus that were marketed to healthy lifestyles.

      Now, I live in Green Bay , Wisconsin where you have to have a car. I live around people who are a little heavier on average than folks in California and they don't care how they or others look. The restaurants menues are targeted towards a very different type of American lifestyle. Because I drove everywhere, I stopped being active and I blew up like a cow.

      So, what did I do ? In San Diego, I ate out. Here in Green Bay, I buy groceries and eat healthy at home. Since I have a car and cannot walk out here because things are spread apart and it gets dangerously cold, I use the trails to go jogging an hr a day.

      Ever since I figured out how compensate for the change in environment , I have been dropping the pounds really fast. I have a long way to go and I'm not hard on myself because I don't wanna get discouraged and stop, but I'm on that trail every morning now because I have to have some sort of physical activity.

      That's my story.

      How can they call out and condemn one form of bigotry while engaging in another form of it without being hypocrites themselves ? ~ Akursten Kowziauk

      by WeBetterWinThisTime on Tue Aug 24, 2010 at 04:40:22 PM PDT

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      •  Yup. (3+ / 0-)

        It's just now starting to cool down for the fall where I am.  I've been stationary biking between 30 and 60 minutes a day to stay inside out of the heat, but I might break out the nonstationary bike or just start walking/jogging now that the heat is dying down.

        Note to self: Quit insulting people. Note to others: If I insult you, please remind me that I'm trying to stop doing that.

        by Ezekial 23 20 on Tue Aug 24, 2010 at 04:44:05 PM PDT

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        •  I encourage you to try this (2+ / 0-)
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          RunawayRose, Ezekial 23 20

          Ezekial. I've lost about 30 pounds over the last few months - with about 10 more to go.

          A bit over a month ago I hit a plateau - just couldn't get beyond the 15 to 17 pound point. I live in an area with walking trails - so just started walking. I'm now up to about an hour a day - every day.

          And it's been the coolest thing. I've seen deer (adult & fawns), racoons, all sorts of birds, met all sorts of folks and their dogs; and best of all the weight started coming off again. I'm also feeling better than I was - and I'm not as hungry.

          Now I just need to figure out what I'm going to do when the Chicago winter starts kicking in ...

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          by hpchicago on Tue Aug 24, 2010 at 07:08:04 PM PDT

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          •  I should, we've got a branch campus of (1+ / 0-)
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            hpchicago

            a university nearby, and they have walking trails, albeit not really kept in shape very well.  But I have seen deer, fox, rabbits, and lots of birds out there.

            Plus, that'll hit different muscles than all this biking.

            Note to self: Quit insulting people. Note to others: If I insult you, please remind me that I'm trying to stop doing that.

            by Ezekial 23 20 on Wed Aug 25, 2010 at 04:51:52 AM PDT

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      •  NOTE: When I said Wisconsinites don't care how (2+ / 0-)
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        RunawayRose, Ezekial 23 20

        they look, I meant there is no social pressure to be thin out here like in San Diego. That pressure served as a motivator for me to stay thin. I don't have that out here so it was easy for me to let myself go until I myself noticed the weight gain.

        How can they call out and condemn one form of bigotry while engaging in another form of it without being hypocrites themselves ? ~ Akursten Kowziauk

        by WeBetterWinThisTime on Tue Aug 24, 2010 at 04:44:06 PM PDT

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  •  resting up from Sunday (3+ / 0-)
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    I did the Sweet & Twisted triathlon

    My times: Swim: 31:05, Bike: 55:27, Run (walk): 1:24:12, Total: 2:50:45

    2nd to last, but I finished. The 5K time could have been better, I was worn out already. Must work on swimming, biking & endurance. The only reason I did as "well" in the swim as I did was that I found lots of shallow spots where I could rest yet still make progress.

    Got to drop as many pounds as I can between now & October (Trek Triathlon), and work on endurance.

    •  Wow, good job. (1+ / 0-)
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      How long is the bike part of that?  Biking is the only thing I'm doing so far, and 37:30 is as long as I've biked at a time during any of my workouts, and I think I only did like 7 miles or so when I went that long, as I tend to average 5 minute miles.

      I can't even imagine an hour of biking after a half hour swim and before an hour and a half of running.  Maybe by the time  I've lost another 50# or more, I'll have at least worked up to an hour of biking at a time :P

      Note to self: Quit insulting people. Note to others: If I insult you, please remind me that I'm trying to stop doing that.

      by Ezekial 23 20 on Wed Aug 25, 2010 at 04:49:03 AM PDT

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  •  Let's see. Company picnic Saturday. (4+ / 0-)

    (My first as a retiree.)  They had a 5K around the perimeter of the plant site; I walked it, and came in dead last, but I finished.

    I went to the library again today.  My sister has a cold and wasn't up to our usual Monday walk, so today I walked to and from the library, about 2 1/2 miles round trip.  (And did my weekly t'ai chi class later in the evening.)

    Since the first of the year, I am now down 20 lbs.  I'm down 27 from the start of last October, when we began a Weight Watchers at Work series.

    Still a long ways to go, maybe another 80 - 100 lbs. But I am definitely making progress.  I have a belt now, because some of my jeans will slip all the way down without, and a good pair of walking shoes.

    ...it is unfortunate that the opposition to the Democrats in this country now consists entirely of crazy people. - NNadir

    by RunawayRose on Tue Aug 24, 2010 at 07:02:42 PM PDT

    •  Sounds like you had just about the same amount to (2+ / 0-)
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      lose as I did, and you're just about as far along.  I think getting past the first 20-25% is a major step, as it shows you've got the commitment, and aren't as easily derailed.

      I never really dropped more than 10-15 lbs at a time on past yo-yo dieting.  It feels great to have solidly passed that point, and, as you say, to have to use a belt.  I actually already wore a belt, but was on the last possible notch when I started this time.  Now I'm comfortably on the 7th notch in, which means I've lost what looks to be about 3 or 3.5" off the waist along with those 35#. (35.8# this morning, actually, heh heh, since I just came back from my daily weigh in. :)

      Note to self: Quit insulting people. Note to others: If I insult you, please remind me that I'm trying to stop doing that.

      by Ezekial 23 20 on Wed Aug 25, 2010 at 04:45:00 AM PDT

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  •  Hi everybody! (1+ / 0-)
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    I won't have time to read the comments probably until tomorrow. Glad you're doing well, Zeke. (I hope you don't mind me calling you "Zeke", Ezekial 23 20). Hope everyone else is doing at least fairly well, too.

    Tech question for anybody - I've just been clicking on my WHEE bookmark randomly to see if there's any new post up. Anybody know if there's a way to get an email alert for specific Kos tags?

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    by Oaktown Girl on Tue Aug 24, 2010 at 09:49:45 PM PDT

    •  Good thing, since I didn't get back around to (0+ / 0-)

      seeing your comment til tomorrow (today now), and Zeke is fine.

      I actually took a day off exercise yesterday, since I'd strained my calves a bit, and was worried I'd yoyo back up a bit, but actually went down another .8lbs since yesterday.  Yay :)

      Hmmm.  I don't know of any way within the system to do so.  One thing I've done is to add a few such links to my blogroll, rather than using bookmarks, to save my favorite ongoing series off, such as Tales from the Larder.

      In a more roundabout way, I suppose a specialized mailer could be set up with a cron job and a C script under linux.  Use the curl library (a specialized library of functions to emulate a browser in a text sorta way) to scrape the recent diary list every 10 - 15 minutes for the string 'WHEE' and set up a mailer and mailing list to send something out whenever it gets a hit, with maybe a 6-8 hr lockout, so that it doesn't send a mail every 10-15 minutes when it's still the same one on the recent diary list.

      Note to self: Quit insulting people. Note to others: If I insult you, please remind me that I'm trying to stop doing that.

      by Ezekial 23 20 on Wed Aug 25, 2010 at 04:40:47 AM PDT

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    •  Actually, an addendum... (0+ / 0-)

      Looking over the page code, it would be actually easier to pull up the page by the tag, and scrape the date off the first diary listed, compare it to a stored value, and if it's different, send off an alert and update the stored value.

      That way you could skip having to dredge through a lot of extra text to get what you're looking for.

      Note to self: Quit insulting people. Note to others: If I insult you, please remind me that I'm trying to stop doing that.

      by Ezekial 23 20 on Wed Aug 25, 2010 at 05:16:29 AM PDT

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  •  I overeat when I'm depressed, (1+ / 0-)
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    Ezekial 23 20

    so the Bush years weren't kind to me. I also have a low metabolism, if a body temp consistently a few degrees below normal and a pulse usually in the 40s are any indication. To top it off I have a nearly insatiable sweet tooth, so when my wife got a job in an ice cream parlor it didn't help matters.

    Some time ago I topped out at around 210. Being 5'9", this is on the plump side. Then I went vegan. I'm not recommending this - not not recommending it either - just saying it worked for me. I also banned refined sugar from my diet. Eventually lost close to 50lbs. Exercise helped, as did counting calories. But basically I decided that if I cut out most of what seemed to be making me fat, I would have little choice but to get thinner.

    Kept the weight off for about 5 years, then started adding much (though thankfully not all) of it back, thus proving that there are overweight vegans, too. My sugar fix wouldn't be denied, and there are plenty of unrefined alternatives...

    After a few dozen failed attempts, I started counting calories again and exercising more - my love of cycling is a big help here - and made my way back down to my comfort zone of the low 160s. So I'm a bit of a yo-yo, unfortunately.

    While googling the whole weight loss thing I came across the fat acceptance movement, which opened my eyes about this torturous subject. In the end it didn't change my mind that I prefer myself thinner; I'd just like to stop binge eating. To paraphrase Lance Armstrong, it's not about the food. For me at least.

    Anyway, I just wanted to share my story and wish you and everybody else luck.

    •  I know the feeling. (0+ / 0-)

      Food kicks those endorphins up, makes you feel good, so I did the same, and basically was in a low level depression for years.  Thankfully for me, my base metabolism isn't nearly as slow as yours.  My pulse was strong and fast for years, although getting into months of regular exercise has finally started to drop it some.  I'm even starting to regrow some of the hair on my lower legs, which would suggest some of the plaque buildup in my arteries is getting better and thus my circulation improving.

      I was 300# at my peak and 5'7", which had me at about 47% bodyfat.  Tipping out at 260ish right now, which at least kicks me down around 40% bodyfat and still dropping, albeit somewhat more fitfully.

      One of the things I intend to talk about next WHEE diary I see (or write, if one doesn't come along on its own soon enough) is the way tracking my intake and exercise has started to let me see patterns I couldn't before.

      I seem to get more out of bike riding in the morning than I do in the evening, for instance.  And rice doesn't clear out of my system overnight like most foods, but tends to stick around an extra day or so in my guts, leaving me 'heavier' out of proportion to the calories it provides until it does 'clear'.

      Thanks for sharing, and hopefully there will be another WHEE diary along before too much longer.

      If you feel insulted by anything I've said, find out if it was intentional. I'll let you know if you ask.

      by Ezekial 23 20 on Wed Sep 01, 2010 at 01:53:09 PM PDT

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