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The current ROV DIARY: Daily Kos Gulf Watchers ROV #363 - Heave ho; heave again - BP's Gulf Catastrophe - David PA

The digest of diaries is here

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  • We take volunteers for subsequent diaries in the sub diaries or ROV's as we have playfully coined them.
  • Please rec this mothership diary, not the ROVs.
  • Please be kind to fellow kossacks who may have limited bandwidth and refrain from posting images or videos.

PLEASE visit Pam LaPier's diary to find out how you can help the Gulf now and in the future. We don't have to be idle! And thanks to Crashing Vor and Pam LaPier for working on this!

To repeat: please refrain from commenting in this mothership diary - it only serves to point people in the right direction.

Must see: I received a set of links to the massive video library collected by Josef Gerbils of The Oil Drum.

Deepwater Horizon BlowOut & Oil Spill:
Deepwater Horizon BlowOut II
Deepwater Horizon BlowOut III
Deepwater Horizon BlowOut IV
Those include many videos from our crew and others.

40 page 12mb report on the Macondo well

Deepwater Horizon BP Oil Spill Reference Material - from Whitis is the best source for everything.. The quantitative data diary has also been moved there.

The motherlode of technical data Kairos brought us was removed, but the 19 mb 48 page BP Accident Investigation Overview and the 12 mb 147 page Confidential TransOcean Assurance Analysis of the BOP with detailed control diagrams starting at page 56, are still available.

Kossak Sillia gives a concise explanation of the mothership and liveblog:

This diary, that is, the mothership, forms the hub from which you can reach the other diaries. Or, think of it as a table of contents in the front page of a book. You use this diary to find a link to the latest discussions. You can also find links here to past discussions (previous diaries) if you wanted to read them.

The actual liveblog diaries (in this case playfully referred to as a 'submersible' or ROV) is where the discussion is--once one of these gets so long that its size is cumbersome, they start a new one. So if you wanted to join in to the most current discussion, you'd click the most recent link. But they leave the links there so that people can still go back and read the older ones if they wish.

The reason for this setup is that it prevents the recommended list from being filled up with many diaries on the same topic. Instead just the mothership will appear on the rec list where everybody can find it, which they can use to navigate to the latest discussion. (That's why we are asked to "rec" the mothership but not the other diaries, just reduces confusion.)

I hope this is sort of what you were wanting to know...

A video primer on ROV Watching, from GW regular sometv.

Video Feeds
20876/21507 - Development Driller II's ROV 1
32900/49178 - Development Driller II's ROV 2
21233/31218 - Boa Sub C's ROV 1
31219/33627 - Boa Sub C's ROV 2
45685/49182 - Skandi Neptune's ROV 1 (Hercules 14)
45683/45684 - Skandi Neptune's ROV 2 (Hercules 6)
47175/21144 - Discoverer Enterprise's ROV 1
21145/21327 - Discoverer Enterprise's ROV 2
37235/37270 - Q4000's ROV 1
35523/35624 - Q4000's ROV 2
41434/41436 - Olympic Challenger's ROV 1
40788/40789 - Olympic Challenger's ROV 2
30948/35246 - HOS Achiever's ROV 1
35461/36301 - HOS Achiever's ROV 2

46245/46260 - BP "Official" feed.

58061/59421 - Q4000's Moon Pool Below Deck will be the first camera to show the old BOP aboard the Q4000.
22506/23753 - Q4000's Moon Pool Upper Deck will also show the old BOP when it is brought up.
23866/30077 - Q4000's Weight indicator will show the stress being used to lift the BOP.

Restore the Gulf.gov has put up a government sponsored multi-feed.
Bobo's lightweight ROV Multi-feed: A great low impact multi-view page
Once the best multi-view feed
BP Video Feed
CNN multi camera view
PBS This PBS feed is security compliant.
BP videos - Links to all available live feeds from BP
WKRG - Mobile/Pensacola (contains link for an iPhone app at the bottom)
ABC News
A multi-view with feeds from BP, C-SPAN-2, WKRG, and PBS
Vote For America's awesome clickable multi-view

Links, courtesy of several Kossacks

Liveblog diaries
Daily Kos Gulf Watchers ROV #363 - Heave ho; heave again - BP's Gulf Catastrophe - David PA
Daily Kos Gulf Watchers ROV #362 - Liftoff? - BP's Gulf Catastrophe - Yasuragi
Daily Kos Gulf Watchers ROV #361 - Waiting for Liftoff - BP's Gulf Catastrophe - Yasuragi
Daily Kos Gulf Watchers ROV #360 - Flying Monkeys - BP's Gulf Catastrophe - Lorinda Pike
Daily Kos Gulf Watchers ROV #359 - BOP is on Deck - BP's Gulf Catastrophe - Tomtech
Daily Kos Gulf Watchers ROV #358 - BOP Surfacing - BP's Gulf Catastrophe - Lorinda Pike
Daily Kos Gulf Watchers ROV #357 - BOP Surfacing watch - BP's Gulf Catastrophe - Wee Mama
Daily Kos Gulf Watchers ROV #356 - Damaged BOP Recovery - BP's Gulf Catastrophe - peraspera
Daily Kos Gulf Watchers ROV #355 - Lifting Day Redux Part Trois - BP's Gulf Catastrophe - by Wee Mama
Daily Kos Gulf Watchers ROV #354 - Lifting Day Redux Part Deux - BP's Gulf Catastrophe - Yasuragi
Daily Kos Gulf Watchers ROV #353 - Lifting Day Redux - BP's Gulf Catastrophe- Lorinda Pike
Daily Kos Daily Kos Gulf Watchers ROV #352 - Stack blown; BOP next - BP's Gulf Catastrophe- David PA
Daily Kos Gulf Watchers ROV #351 - BOP Changing Day #2 - BP's Gulf Catastrophe - Tomtech
Daily Kos Gulf Watchers ROV #350 - BOP Changing Day - BP's Gulf Catastrophe - Lorinda Pike
Daily Kos Gulf Watchers ROV #349 - BP's Gulf Catastrophe - Yasuragi
Daily Kos Gulf Watchers ROV #348 - Waiting on Weather - BP's Gulf Catastrophe - peraspera
Daily Kos Gulf Watchers ROV #347 - Wishin' and Hopin' - BP's Gulf Catastroph - KHowell
Daily Kos Gulf Watchers ROV #346 - Watching and Waiting - BP's Gulf Catastrophe - Gulf Watchers Overnight / Tomtech
Daily Kos Gulf Watchers ROV #345 - Hurry up and wait - BP's Gulf Catastrophe - Lorinda Pike
Daily Kos Gulf Watchers ROV #344 - Broken Handle & Stack Removal - BP's Gulf Catastrophe - peraspera
Daily Kos Gulf Watchers ROV #343 - Stack removal is due - BP's Gulf Catastrophe - Tomtech
Daily Kos Gulf Watchers ROV #342 - Prepping for the BOP removal - BP's Gulf Catastrophe - David PA
Daily Kos Gulf Watchers ROV #341 - Disassembling Stuff - BP's Gulf Catastrophe - Yasuragi

Previous motherships and ROV's from this extensive live blog effort may be found here.

Information on our community can be found in Phil S 33's diary here. That diary having timed out, bigjacbigjacbigjac next took up the cause and posted a new bio diary here. The latest bio diary was posted by Ursoklevar on 7-25 and includes the bio's from the previous diaries in alphabetical order by user name.

If you'd like, feel free to join in by sharing a little about yourself there.

Originally posted to Gulf Watchers on Mon Sep 06, 2010 at 02:59 AM PDT.

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  •  Big thank yous to the Daily Kos community (42+ / 0-)

    for your support of the BP Catastrophe liveblog. The Gulf Watchers greatly appreciate your recs for the Mothership and participation in the ROVs.

    There have been no indications so far that moving the Lower Marine Riser Package (LMRP) from the deck of the Q4000 is imminent. However, from time to time there have been workmen crawling on it, presumably disconnecting it from the blow out preventer and helping the FBI with their documentation requirements. You can use the Q4000's Moon Pool Upper Deck link in the Mothership or current ROV to watch what is happening on deck.

    The Coast Guard posted some hi-res photos and a video of the BOP coming out of the water onto the deck of the Q4000. The quality is much, much better than the feeds BP provides. The photos and video are not bandwidth-friendly, however.

    Josef Gerbils, a poster at the The Oil Drum, sent Tomtech links for his excellent four part collection of BP catastrophe videos. The links are also in the ROV diaries. The collection includes some video from Gulf Watchers.

    Deepwater Horizon BlowOut & Oil Spill
    Deepwater Horizon BlowOut II
    Deepwater Horizon BlowOut III
    Deepwater Horizon BlowOut IV

    The FBI will be escorting the blowout preventer from the Macondo well to its new home in a NASA facility in Louisiana. The FBI is on board the Q4000 and have been observing and photographing the BOP's removal.

    Engineers took 29½ hours to lift the 50-foot, 300-ton blowout preventer from a mile beneath the sea. The five-story high device breached the water's surface at 6:54 p.m. CDT and looked largely intact with black stains on the yellow metal.
    FBI agents were among the 137 people aboard the Helix Q4000 vessel, taking photos and video of the device. They will escort it back to a NASA facility in Louisiana for analysis.

    An oil sheen left around the Q4000 when they brought up the blow out preventer seems to have left everyone puzzled. One wonders if it came from the same source as the oil the Gulf Watchers and posters at The Oil Drum saw leaking from the HC connector that Thad Allen claimed wasn't happening despite screenshots and video of the leak.

    As a large hatch opened up on the Helix to allow the blowout preventer to pass through, several hundred feet of light sheen could be seen near the boat, though crews weren't exactly sure what it was.

    BP and the government  did not allow bird rescue experts to do their work. Less experienced people were used with while willing, experienced people were sidelined.

    BP hired a 4-year-old Texas company called Wildlife Response Services to oversee the rescue and rehabilitation of birds, turtles and any other animals hurt by the spill. The owner, Rhonda Murgatroyd, starred in a television ad for BP touting the oil company's response to the spill.

    Mother Jones has an all BP issue out. One of the articles is about the dispersant BP used in the Gulf, Corexit. Current law means that any dispersant can be listed on the EPA's "approved" list without the slightest regard for toxicity.

    Why, you might ask, was BP able to pump the Gulf full of chemicals that have never been tested for their human and environmental safety? The answer lies, in part, in the Toxic Substances Control Act, the 34-year-old law that governs the use of tens of thousands of hazardous chemicals. Under the act, companies don't have to prove that substances they release into the air or water are safe—or in most cases even reveal what's in their products.

    In the case of dispersants, companies must ask the EPA for permission to use specific products—but the only basis for approval is whether those products are effective at breaking up oil. Companies are required to test the short-term toxicity of the dispersant and the oil-dispersant mixture on shrimp and fish, but those results have no bearing on approval, and there's no requirement to assess the long-term impact. In fact, it's the EPA that must prove an "unreasonable risk" if it wants companies to disclose what is in the dispersant—hard to do when the agency, you know, doesn't know what's in it.

    BP's chemical cocktails of choice were Corexit 9527A and 9500A, both made by Illinois-based Nalco. The manufacturer insists that the products are no more dangerous than common household cleaners such as dish soap—little consolation given that many of the chemicals in those cleaners haven't been tested for safety, either. EPA administrator Lisa Jackson acknowledged that the impacts of using dispersants underwater and in large volume are largely unknown—"I'm amazed by how little science there is on the issue," she told senators in May. Two days later, Jackson directed BP to switch to less-toxic dispersants, but BP said it hadn't found the alternatives suitable and continued to use Corexit. The EPA also asked for the company's study of alternatives; BP turned over a set of heavily redacted documents (PDF). Under pressure, Nalco eventually coughed up a list of Corexit ingredients—one of them is 2-butoxyethanol, a chemical that can cause liver and kidney damage and other health problems—but refused for some time to provide the exact formula; meanwhile, the EPA said it was barred from publishing its own studies on the ingredients because, according to a spokeswoman, that might be "confidential business information" that could lead to criminal prosecution.

    Mem from somerville posted a great diary about the conflict that often arises between scientists and the press. One of the examples she used as an illustration was the seemingly conflicting findings about the oil plume in the Gulf from Woods Hole Research Institute (WHOI) and those from Terry Hazen. Both studies were published in the well-regarded, peer-reviewed Science journal.

    Christopher Reddy, a marine chemist for WHOI discusses the problem in an interview.

    Yeah, well. (laughs). You know, these initial estimates are really more like a rough estimate. They help you, kind of, set a road map as to where you are going to head. And they allow you with more time, and more science that goes on, allow you to have a much more improved finished product. The fact that two groups disagree as to the starting point is...that's just science.
    ...
    I think the scientists probably didn't set the results up in the context of these two potentially conflicting reports- I didn't think they were conflicting.

    Reddy also points out that it took five years for scientists to truly get their heads wrapped around what happened with the oil from the Exxon Valdez.

    Check out the latest news in the most recent ROV diary and join us for comments and questions.

    In consideration of those with slow internet connections please refrain from posting embedded graphics, photos or videos. Please post links instead.

    We watch, so all will know.

    by Gulf Watchers on Mon Sep 06, 2010 at 02:51:57 AM PDT

  •  Good morning Gulf Watchers and thank you. (20+ / 0-)

    Thought mem's diary was fascinating. Hope it gets alot of eyes on it.

    "I get up, I walk, I fall down. Meanwhile, I keep dancing." Daniel Hillel

    by Onomastic on Mon Sep 06, 2010 at 03:52:14 AM PDT

  •  Thank you for another great summary (13+ / 0-)

    Thank you to all the Gulf Watchers for maintaining this vigil and for all the great information you give us.

    There's no such thing as undead. Either it's dead or it's not. Either it's plugged or it's not. It's not.--Fishgrease

    by gulfgal98 on Mon Sep 06, 2010 at 05:23:56 AM PDT

  •  Another wonderful synopsis!!!! (10+ / 0-)

    These are so great, that alone they could be compiled and represent a fair picture of all that has happened under the sea and above.

    Deep thanks to you, Gulf Watchers, you are the best.

    Deep thanks to my fellow Gulf Watchers, who have been magnificent!!! We have finally come to a place where we might feel that there is actual hope for a positive outcome.

    Please, everyone who reads here on the Mothership pray, meditate, think, send good vibes, talk to FSM, imagine, hope or whatever you might do; that those the with the power to do so, actually decide to perform the bottom kill from the relief well so that we will know that the Deep Water Horizon well is truly and finally dead.

    "Winter downpour~~ Even the monkey~~ Needs a raincoat." Basho

    by rubyr on Mon Sep 06, 2010 at 06:11:07 AM PDT

  •  Thanks for yet another wonderful synopsis. (6+ / 0-)

    Very insightful, very clear.

    GW's are amazing!

    You can always count on Americans to do the right thing - after they've tried everything else. -- Sir Winston Churchill

    by bleeding heart on Mon Sep 06, 2010 at 08:34:28 AM PDT

  •  Thanks, thanks, thanks, Gulf Watchers! N/T (6+ / 0-)

    "That story is not worth the paper it's rotten on."--Dorothy Parker

    by martyc35 on Mon Sep 06, 2010 at 10:10:38 AM PDT

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