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It's time for the principals of Daily Kos to either get behind the 10.2.10 march or explain why not.

To me, the biggest reason to get behind this is to promote links between the Netroots and other parts of the coalition that elected Obama, principally labor and the black community.  These links are weak and they need to become stronger.

This rally will add to, not subtract from the electoral fight.  It's about base energy.  The base is not only the Netroots.  

By frontpaging 10.2.10, Daily Kos would be signing on to this.  Time to get off the fence.

Update:

In answer to Radical def, who asks me to clarify my motives, I provide the following:

Two things.

  1. Build support for this march which I think would be a supplement to efforts to keep the progressive coalition on track and a boost to its morale.

  2. To stimulate a reevaluation of the "consensus position" of the Netroots (of whom Kos is a leading part) that such demonstrations are always and under all conditions a waste of time and energy.  I can understand that many thought so after the series of such demonstrations in the runup to the Iraq war led to nothing, but if it was meant to signify that such events are always, and under all conditions, a waste of time, I disagree.

Here, in 2010, we badly need to counter the perception that the Tea Party is an unstoppable juggernaut, which looks like it may turn into a self-fulfilling prophecy as of now.

Getting out the progressive vote and just beating them might do the trick, but it's not looking all that sure a bet now.  An event like this, successfully pulled off, could add juice to the election efforts, which badly need some.

Given what we were up against in 2003, it is not surprising that the protests were ignored.  I don't think they'll be quite so easy to ignore.  Sure, Fox will ignore it, but I'm not so sure about the rest of the media.

Also, I think it would do the whole coalition a world of good if Netroots and whoever the AFL-CIO and NAACP are able to mobilize took a bus ride together.  Might do some good to mend the obvious splits in our ranks.  

More specifically, my aim is NOT to provide a forum for left demonization of President Obama.  Sure, like many, I have my criticisms, but I think it is quite clear that organizers of this event have no such aims, and neither is it my purpose to go there.

But I think we need an outlet other than sitting at our computers and gazing at significantly negative poll numbers.

Originally posted to stivo on Sun Sep 19, 2010 at 08:52 AM PDT.

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  •  do you mean like a daily FP diary? (0+ / 0-)

    "We don't differentiate between 'them' and 'us.' It's just 'us.'" --- President Barack Obama

    by marabout40 on Sun Sep 19, 2010 at 08:55:46 AM PDT

  •  he doesnt like marches (1+ / 0-)
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    aoeu

    "Senator McCain offered up the oldest Washington stunt in the book - you pass the buck to a commission to study the problem." - Senator Obama, 9-16-2008

    by justmy2 on Sun Sep 19, 2010 at 08:56:24 AM PDT

    •  he, being Markos? (3+ / 0-)
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      otto, rubine, judyms9

      Shout out to Markos:

      Time to rethink that stance if so.  It seems obvious to me, anyway that the all-electoral focus is not providing the necessary juice.

      sTiVo's rule: Just because YOU "wouldn't put it past 'em" doesn't prove that THEY did it.

      by stivo on Sun Sep 19, 2010 at 09:09:02 AM PDT

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      •  You might want to check out his book (0+ / 0-)

        Taking on the System. He explains.

        •  I admit I haven't read it (1+ / 0-)
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          rubine

          but I followed the debate at the time.  I think that debate has gotten old and stale.  Kos's position, which I remember from back then, may have been right at the time.  Certainly the focus on the electoral arena helped elect Obama, but the lack of left pressure since the election has left the Netroots conspicuously without energy.  The Netroots have been isolated from the other parts of the coalition, and in some instances - I don't think I need to explain who - actively estranged from other parts.

          Sitting anonymously behind our keyboards spewing venom and despair is not getting it done.  Time to dust off those old tactical decisions and reexamine them in the light of 2010 politics.

          sTiVo's rule: Just because YOU "wouldn't put it past 'em" doesn't prove that THEY did it.

          by stivo on Sun Sep 19, 2010 at 09:19:28 AM PDT

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          •  so, it would seem... (1+ / 0-)
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            rfall

            you admit that your strategy sucks, right??

            Have you been doing anything BUT spew venom and despair?

            Or do you just seek to take that to a new level of visibility?

            "...a printing press is worth 10,000 rifles..." Ho Chi Minh

            by Radical def on Sun Sep 19, 2010 at 10:30:55 AM PDT

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            •  What are you talking about? (2+ / 0-)
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              My strategy is to offer a constructive channel out of the venom and despair.

              sTiVo's rule: Just because YOU "wouldn't put it past 'em" doesn't prove that THEY did it.

              by stivo on Sun Sep 19, 2010 at 10:42:52 AM PDT

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              •  Please see my other responses... (0+ / 0-)

                I would propose losing the combative stance toward dkos reluctance to entertain mere gratuitous Obama bashing and villification of "teh Dems", which has been the main thrust of the venom and despair we are getting so fed up with.

                You can bring your laundry list of complaints, and you won't necessarily be "wrong", per se, more or less, on any particular point...but unless consistent with the purpose of the blog, and what it's really going to take, to correct any of the many very substantial and egregious shortcomings of the Obama administration, and of the Democratic Party, such as they are, then what fucking good are you?

                I totally agree with bringing up the issues...but the context, to be a positive contribution to real solutions, needs to include recognition that ONLY an unprecedented, historic interim election voter turnout is likely to produce any motion forward, whatsoever...and that sowing cynical defeatism and demoralization is not going to accomplish that.

                So it's not about STFU about the problems we face, or being some kind of smiley face kool-aid swilling Obamabot...it's about recognizing that whatever the problems, and there are many, the ONLY solution is to mobilize the electorate to further purge the right and seize the power more substantially.

                Calling Obama and "teh Dems", spineless, or having no balls, etc. etc, for example, and pretending that the "Democratic Majorities" coulda, woulda, shoulda run roughshod over the right...when, in fact, the remnant Blue Dog and Republican plurality yet and still remains sufficient (just barey, actually) to block, delay and sabotage all motion, thus forcing onerous compromises to get even the slightest thing accomplished, and to prevent absolute reversal on everything accomplished in the past...

                Ignoring or denying that real politik, is just not...realistic...or productive, or helpful...as disappointing and frustrating as it may all be.

                This blog is not about attacking Obama and "teh Dems", lol...it's about crushing the right, against all odds, DESPITE whatever obstacles and shortcomings the present entrenched party leadership apparatus, even, may present....and keeping focus on who the real enemy ultimately really is...the right, the Republicans and Blue Dogs...NOT Obama and "teh Dems", per se.

                Once the right has been sufficiently decimated, THEN we can proceed to further sort out the supposed "liberals" and "progressives", mmmk?

                I've not researched your previous posts, to see if you or others here have tended to fall into the category I'm describing, heh...but just saying, that's where the dkos attitude you complain about is mostly coming from, and your initial remarks did not seem to distinguish you much, in that regard.

                "...a printing press is worth 10,000 rifles..." Ho Chi Minh

                by Radical def on Sun Sep 19, 2010 at 02:47:38 PM PDT

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                •  In all fairness (1+ / 0-)
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                  I have been of the school that thought it was important for President Obama to have a critique from the left, in opposition to the stance of many here.  You can read many of my posts in that vein on Open Left.  On the other hand, I've always tried to keep it real there - reminding those folks that whatever their opinions of the President's politics, they still inhabit a real world, where playing the hand you're dealt is important.

                  I have for the most part greatly cut back on my posts there.  I have been disappointed, both before and especially after Chris Bowers left there to come here in the unwillingness by many there to give credit to the President where credit is due, and the general stance of "we've been betrayed by Obama, so fuck it all" maintaining a stance of complete indifference whether the Tea Party Republicans take over the Congress.  This is not to say that I don't continue to have some strong critiques of the President, but there is a time to every season under heaven and now is not the time for that.

                  Fair enough?

                  sTiVo's rule: Just because YOU "wouldn't put it past 'em" doesn't prove that THEY did it.

                  by stivo on Sun Sep 19, 2010 at 06:33:32 PM PDT

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      •  I don't care that he doesn't like marches (1+ / 0-)
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        He doesn't like a lot of things.

        He doesn't like astroturf groups, but he allows RW astroturf groups to buy advertising on his site.

        "Can you dance faster than the white clown?"

        by otto on Sun Sep 19, 2010 at 09:20:14 AM PDT

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      •  And what do you propose... (1+ / 0-)
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        Besides, or instead of, a democratic, electoral solution, to actually seize the power, for real?

        "...a printing press is worth 10,000 rifles..." Ho Chi Minh

        by Radical def on Sun Sep 19, 2010 at 10:28:05 AM PDT

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        •  Not proposing anything... (0+ / 0-)

          just telling you why you will be unlikely to see any promotion of the march on his site...

          "Senator McCain offered up the oldest Washington stunt in the book - you pass the buck to a commission to study the problem." - Senator Obama, 9-16-2008

          by justmy2 on Sun Sep 19, 2010 at 07:03:37 PM PDT

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  •  It's time to get off the fence and off our (6+ / 0-)

    keyboards.  There are so many reasons to participate in this march:  to form common cause with other groups, to show the absolute and nationally critical need for jobs to both lawmakers and the administration, to remind Dems that we still have vigor of some kind, to support a unified nation rather than a raving nation as in the Beck wandering-around-DC thing in August, to draw media attention to a non-TP group (Well, maybe.), and to combat the notion that we've buckled under because of Dem missteps.  I hope those of us who are there will appear passionate and hard charging.  Will be wearing my kick-butt orthopedic insoles.

    •  You may have just lost me... (0+ / 0-)

      If you are marching to "combat" supposed "Dem misteps"...count me out.

      If all you want to do is present an hysterical, subjective, hyperbolic, opportunist oppositionalist "left" mirror image evil twin doppelganger of the tea party, to similarly demonize "teh Dems", then, well, fuck you!

      Will this demo be about voting for more better Democrats in November and in 2012?  

      Or will it be the usual "left" jive about boycotting supposedly absolutely non-viable bourgeois elections, and/or splitting the vote with guaranteed loser "alternative" parties?

      I'd be a lot more interested in a mass protest against Republican (and Blue Dog) misteps, calling for an unprecedented, historic interim election voter turnout, to further purge the right from Congress on down, to give Obama the backup he needs to do more, better, faster...or, at the very least, to call his bluff, if that's what it is, about "make me", and jack him up with a more progressive plurality in government, to sweep aside the right wing traitors, and finally begin to get 'er done.

      People marching and chanting and screaming in the streets, and talking trash against "teh Dems" is the last thing we need right now, from the left.

      If this is about trying to get blacks and labor, etc. to unite against Obama and the Democratic Party, rather than supporting Obama's efforts and materially seizing the power in the party, and the nation, by bringing better Democrats...then, as I said, fuck you, very much.

      Would you, or anyone else, care to clarify, in that regard?

      "...a printing press is worth 10,000 rifles..." Ho Chi Minh

      by Radical def on Sun Sep 19, 2010 at 10:08:36 AM PDT

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      •  Open mouth and uninsert foot here (3+ / 0-)
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        It is obvious that you have not taken the time or interest to review the abundant materials posted on this site practically daily on the One Nation Working Together purpose and cause.  Take a moment to read before going off on a rant of personal invective and ignorance.

        WHY WE MARCH

        We march for a dream deeply rooted in the American dream. We march for jobs, justice, and education. We march for an economy that works for all.  We march for a nation in which each person who wants to work can find a job that pays enough to support a family.

        We march to create a million new jobs right away, because the national values that got us out of the Great Depression will get us out of the Great Recession.

        We march to build a world-class public education system, from pre-school to community college and beyond - because our nation must start unleashing the greatness of every child today.

        We march to end racial profiling and re-segregation– from Arizona to Atlanta. We march to defend the Voting Rights Act and the 14th Amendment.  We march to advance human rights, civil rights, equal protection, and dignity for all.

        We march to fix the broken immigration system – because no child should live in fear that her parents will be deported.

        We march to ensure every worker has a voice at work. We march for green jobs and safe workplaces, so no worker will have to choose between her livelihood and her life.

        We march for a clean environment, so no child is ever forced to decide between drinking the water or breathing the air and staying healthy.

        We march to move our nation beyond this moment when a handful of Senators can block urgently needed progress – skewing our national budget towards tax cuts for the wealthy, unjustified military spending and prisons.

        We march to demand full equality for all women in all communities, indulging an end to wage discrimination.

        We march for peace abroad and job creation at home. We march for energy independence, public safety, and public transportation because the nation we want to build most is our own.

        We march to demand full equality for all women in all communities, indulging an end to wage discrimination.

        And on 11-2-10, we will march again – into the voting booths. We will bring our families, our friends, and our neighbors. And once the ballots are counted, we will keep organizing, we will hold our leaders accountable, and we will keep making our dream real.

        This movement will grow.  It will put America back to work, pull America back together, and keep us moving ever forward.

        Join us. We are One Nation Working Together: For Jobs, For Justice, For Education, For All.

        Enlighten yourself with appreciative inquiry and knowledge.

        One Nation Working Together mission

        •  Nice...I agree with this statement, totally. (0+ / 0-)

          And I did look at the main website, and see a pretty wide range of support, not all of which I would dismiss as anti-democratic ideologues.

          But I was responding to, and inquiring as to the motives of some of the comments from some people here, who seem considerably less interested in the voting part, and considerably more interested in slagging Obama and "teh Dems" for not delivering on all of these demands immediately, in the face of the real politik of a Congress still dominated (just barely) by the right.

          Unfortunately, too often such elements tend to dominate these kinds of actions, and steal most, or all of whatever media coverage and messaging of the event that gets aired, much to the consternation of more rational participants.

          "...a printing press is worth 10,000 rifles..." Ho Chi Minh

          by Radical def on Sun Sep 19, 2010 at 01:40:47 PM PDT

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      •  I'm glad you got this off your chest. My message (0+ / 0-)

        is that we need visibility and unity, pretty simple.  Everyone will have his own motives.  Those who show up will show who they're with, and those who don't show, well, one can only speculate.

        •  Unfortunately, merely showing up...(or not) (1+ / 0-)
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          is not necessarily any proof of anything...although one's actual rhetoric and material practice around  such actions do have significance.

          What matters to me is the message this event conveys to the public, and whether it materially contributes to voter turnout, or not.

          I am, indeed, glad to see that the voting element is part of the appeal, which is too often completely missing from such events, or tends to get shouted down and usurped by more "radical" elements who seem more interested in sabotaging and negating any such message.

          Just saying, and just asking, heh...to the extent that the call is to vote, rather than to boycott or split the vote, I think this event has very positive potential.

          Unfortunately, it's usually very hard to keep such events "on message", and monopoly corporate fascist commercial mass media cannot be relied upon to project what we want, need, and hope them to.

          I wonder how much this topic has been discussed and negotiated, to what ends, in the formative and planning stages of this impressive coalition?

          If it can be kept focused on GOTV, as the ONLY way to resolve the urgent, extremely important issues enumerated, I think that will be a highly unusual and big step forward.

          "...a printing press is worth 10,000 rifles..." Ho Chi Minh

          by Radical def on Sun Sep 19, 2010 at 01:56:08 PM PDT

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  •  Marches are pointless televised crazy magnets. (3+ / 0-)
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    it fitfully blows, half conceals, half discloses

    by Addison on Sun Sep 19, 2010 at 09:03:54 AM PDT

    •  So are the Sunday morning talk shows and all (6+ / 0-)

      of modern politics.  With marches you get fresh air.

      •  Yes, indeed judyms9 (2+ / 0-)
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        Far too many of the Netroots, which includes the Kossacks are media-only children.  If it ain't on TV it doesn't exist.

        Well, we don't control the TV networks, so sometimes we have to look elsewhere for our juice.

        sTiVo's rule: Just because YOU "wouldn't put it past 'em" doesn't prove that THEY did it.

        by stivo on Sun Sep 19, 2010 at 09:12:04 AM PDT

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    •  not in a democracy. (0+ / 0-)

      "teabaggers say: i want my country back. well, i say: i want my country forward! ... " (bill.maher)

      by CoEcoCe on Sun Sep 19, 2010 at 09:15:43 AM PDT

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    •  ... (1+ / 0-)
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      That get a lot of media attention and add to the narrative that a side is winning the debate... was MLKs march pointless?

      I can't give you a brain, but I can give you a diploma- Wizard of Oz; If you have half a brain you won't need a diploma- Frank Levey

      by weathercoins on Sun Sep 19, 2010 at 09:33:06 AM PDT

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      •  MLK called for more democracy...to GOTV (0+ / 0-)

        NOT for electoral boycott and splitting the vote, to offer aid and comfort to the enemies of democracy.

        Please clarify your intentions?

        "...a printing press is worth 10,000 rifles..." Ho Chi Minh

        by Radical def on Sun Sep 19, 2010 at 10:26:34 AM PDT

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    •  Addison brings the main concern, I think... (0+ / 0-)

      MSM media does not tend to focus on the many more positive aspects of broad participation, arduous hard work, organizing, planning and coordination of such an event, the uplifting celebratory atmosphere of creativity, unity, and love, even, that may really most accurately characterize the event.

      Virtually all of the attention is focused on the most "radical", "violent" elements, seeking to completely reverse and pervert the message that most particpants intended...

      Go figure...that's what they do, heh.

      And indeed, too many of such events have also tended to be profoundly lacking any explicit call to electoral solutions to the issues.  They tend to be all about the issues, with little or nothing about material solutions, beyond nebulous calls for "unity' and "resistance", and further demonstrations, and that's usually about it, especially once the media and the crazies get hold of the message.

      So...I think it's an important consideration, as to how exactly, we might prevent that from happening, and what discussion and planning has gone into that aspect?

      Many of us can still vividly recall the huge amount of work that went into the huge WTO protests in Seattle years ago, for example, and how, despite a resolute consensus of a very broad and diverse coalition, over many months of outreach, preparation, planning and democratic decision making, almost immediately degenerated into just another street battle with the police, as far as most people around the country were able to discern...and again, NO visible call for people to turn out and vote, as the ONLY material solution to the problems we were trying to address.

      It seems very likely that those more confrontational, and ultimately anti-democratic hard-line left and "anarchist" tendencies will gravitate to this event, in direct proportion to the degree of mobilization that occurs to bring it about, for their own purposes, which often include their own advance propaganda, about how they are going to "fuck shit up".

      What have we learned, if anything, about how to deal with that?

      Nobody wants to see union "goons" with lead pipes, chasing down and bashing anarchist "trouble makers", lol, or "peace police" snitching people off to the cops...as angry as we may be, about them seeming to be nothing more than false-flag COINTELPRO-style infiltrated and manipulated provocateurs seeking to sabotage and destroy everything we have worked so hard to accomplish.

      How are these contradictions to be resolved?  And if they can't be, why should we open ourselves up to what will ultimately become nothing but bad publicity for our legitimate efforts and concerns?

      While I'm not against large demos, per se, I'm not convinced that they are really absolutely "necessary", nor that they CAN be adequately managed to prevent the worst possible scenarios.

      It may be that such manifestations may need to be done on a smaller, more local scale, relying more on local face to face encounters with local citizens, and less on commercial mass media, who's only interest is in making us look bad.

      "...a printing press is worth 10,000 rifles..." Ho Chi Minh

      by Radical def on Sun Sep 19, 2010 at 03:31:28 PM PDT

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  •  He never did it for any of the (0+ / 0-)

    anti-war marches, I don't see why he would do it for this march.  I think if you have enough diaries on the subject, people will get the picture.  

    Anyway, I think you are preaching to the choir on Dailykos.  Every day people, who may support your ideals but aren't online 24/7, are the people you want to target.  Flyers (fliers?) are your best bet.  

    •  No, I am not preaching to the choir (0+ / 0-)

      I am preaching to those who think these marches are pointless.

      sTiVo's rule: Just because YOU "wouldn't put it past 'em" doesn't prove that THEY did it.

      by stivo on Sun Sep 19, 2010 at 09:10:14 AM PDT

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      •  Try looking at my comment (0+ / 0-)

        as constructive criticism and genuine interest in helping to get the word out.  

        •  I wasn't flaming you (2+ / 0-)
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          I recognize your comments as constructive.

          But this diary is partly about lighting a fire under Kos et al to rethink their position.  

          sTiVo's rule: Just because YOU "wouldn't put it past 'em" doesn't prove that THEY did it.

          by stivo on Sun Sep 19, 2010 at 09:24:36 AM PDT

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          •  Is it really? Or are you trying to burn us down? (0+ / 0-)

            Please clarify your own motives and objectives, in this regard?

            "...a printing press is worth 10,000 rifles..." Ho Chi Minh

            by Radical def on Sun Sep 19, 2010 at 10:23:14 AM PDT

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            •  OK (4+ / 0-)
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              Two things.

              1. Build support for this march which I think would be a supplement to efforts to keep the progressive coalition on track and a boost to its morale.
              1. To stimulate a reevaluation of the "consensus position" of the Netroots (of whom Kos is a leading part) that such demonstrations are always and under all conditions a waste of time and energy.  I can understand that many thought so after the series of such demonstrations in the runup to the Iraq war led to nothing, but if it was meant to signify that such events are always, and under all conditions, a waste of time, I disagree.

              Here, in 2010, we badly need to counter the perception that the Tea Party is an unstoppable juggernaut, which looks like it may turn into a self-fulfilling prophecy as of now.

              Getting out the progressive vote and just beating them might do the trick, but it's not looking all that sure a bet now.  An event like this, successfully pulled off, could add juice to the election efforts, which badly need some.

              Given what we were up against in 2003, it is not surprising that the protests were ignored.  I don't think they'll be quite so easy to ignore.  Sure, Fox will ignore it, but I'm not so sure about the rest of the media.

              Also, I think it would do the whole coalition a world of good if Netroots and whoever the AFL-CIO and NAACP are able to mobilize took a bus ride together.  Might do some good to mend the obvious splits in our ranks.  

              sTiVo's rule: Just because YOU "wouldn't put it past 'em" doesn't prove that THEY did it.

              by stivo on Sun Sep 19, 2010 at 10:39:52 AM PDT

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              •  The rally is not the be all and end all objective (2+ / 0-)
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                It is meant to be a public launching of the coalitions efforts to unify and work together for the issues that matter to folks on the left.  It will give a voice to our side that has been mostly silent.  It will energize those who attend or want to but cannot.  It will send us back home to work on the GOTV and beyond.  This coalition must continue to grow and remain active to combat the real problems that all Americans are facing.

              •  OK...I can dig it... (0+ / 0-)

                As long as it's really, clearly, for everyone to see, a main message of GOTV, as the only material prospect for materially resolving ANY of the many legitimate, urgent issues raised.

                I think that is the main basis for many people's skepticism on the viability of mass demonstrations, in general, as further articulated in my other comments.

                Too often such events degenerate in indiscriminately bashing the Democrats, for supposedly being "the same" as the Republicans, and offering no material proposals for any material solutions, whatsoever, beyond, perhaps, more demonstrations...just futile expressions defiant posturing protest, angst and outrage.

                If this proves otherwise, especially in public perception, I think it could be a very positive and long over-due development.

                "...a printing press is worth 10,000 rifles..." Ho Chi Minh

                by Radical def on Sun Sep 19, 2010 at 02:11:48 PM PDT

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  •  I know this isn't a diary (0+ / 0-)

    Still, I tipped and recommended.

    "Can you dance faster than the white clown?"

    by otto on Sun Sep 19, 2010 at 09:18:14 AM PDT

  •  I think we all should be doing (9+ / 0-)

    as much as we can to build the 10-2-10 march on Washington. We need to let the nation know that the left is alive and kicking.

    Just when you think republicans have scraped the bottom of the nut job barrel, you find it is a bottomless pit.

    by pollbuster on Sun Sep 19, 2010 at 09:20:38 AM PDT

  •  i think the key is go analog on this march.. (5+ / 0-)

    talking to people (irl), friends & family, neighbors, etc..
    it should be on the "front page" of our attention-span.,

    "teabaggers say: i want my country back. well, i say: i want my country forward! ... " (bill.maher)

    by CoEcoCe on Sun Sep 19, 2010 at 09:22:27 AM PDT

  •  We are helping others to get to the march: (5+ / 0-)

    Liberals see George Orwell's 1984 as a cautionary tale. Conservatives see it as a blueprint.

    by DiegoUK on Sun Sep 19, 2010 at 10:44:52 AM PDT

  •  This was enough for me: (1+ / 0-)
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    devtrash

    It's time for the principals of Daily Kos to either get behind the 10.2.10 march or explain why not.

    Fuck you and the high horse you rode in on.

    Since when is it entirely up to you to decide what is and isn't on the FP of DKos, or to insist on an explanation as to why not?

    Look, I agree with the need to keep the 10/02/10 march in front of the Progressive movement.

    What I take exception to is your arrogant, angry and "I'm in charge" attitude as expressed in this diary.

    Try again, with less venom, and you might get me a a few others to join you in this quest.

    "Certainly the game is rigged. Don't let that stop you; if you don't bet, you can't win." Lazarus Long

    by rfall on Sun Sep 19, 2010 at 11:18:57 AM PDT

    •  venom? (1+ / 0-)
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      BradMajors

      It was a suggestion!

      sTiVo's rule: Just because YOU "wouldn't put it past 'em" doesn't prove that THEY did it.

      by stivo on Sun Sep 19, 2010 at 11:37:45 AM PDT

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      •  I apolgize if that what not your intention, (1+ / 0-)
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        Radical def

        ...but it came across that way to me.

        Or, at least it seemed an uncivil way of putting it.

        "Certainly the game is rigged. Don't let that stop you; if you don't bet, you can't win." Lazarus Long

        by rfall on Sun Sep 19, 2010 at 11:43:46 AM PDT

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