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Public Policy Polling for Daily Kos. 9/25-9/26. Likely Voters. MoE 2.7%

Susana Martinez (R) 50
Diane Denish (D) 42

This one is all over the place in the polls recently. Back at the end of August, the Albuquerue Journal found a 45-39 lead for Martinez, Doña Ana County District Attorney. Last week, dueling internal polls had Martinez up 10, while Denish's showed her down by just five. And a DGA poll released Monday by Third Eye Strategies has the two tied at 46, with 7 percent undecided.

Denish seems to be being dragged down by the administration she's served as lieutenant governor. The most unpopular Democratic politician in the state is Gov. Bill Richardson, whose approval rating has cratered to 27 percent. What really hurts her is the loss of 20 percent of Dems. She cedes three percent of women, and leads with Hispanics by just 4 points. The only demographic she has solid lead with are young voters, where she nets 53 percent, but unfortunately that's the group that will be least likely to vote.

One new wrinkle could help Denish down the home stretch if the race is extremely tight. A new candidate was cleared by the secretary of state to run as a write-in candidate. Kenneth A. Gomez is running as a tea party candidate, and might, just might, be able to pull some Republicans. But he'd be unlikely to make the difference if Denish can't start to solidify Dems and make significant gains.

Any way you slice it, Denish has a major fight, that, like the Congressional races in New Mexico, is going to require a very good GOTV effort to get every Dem vote out.

Originally posted to Daily Kos on Wed Sep 29, 2010 at 07:46 AM PDT.

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  •  What about Brian Colon (2+ / 0-)
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    citizenx, flitedocnm

    How is his race doing for Lt Gov?  That is an important race for progressives.

    •  Someone should correct me if I'm wrong, (1+ / 0-)
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      but I'm pretty sure Gov and Lt. Gov are a ticket on the ballot. Like the presidency, it will either be a Denish/Colon administration or a Martinez/Sanchez administration.

      I want to live forever. So far, so good.

      by NMDad on Wed Sep 29, 2010 at 08:20:21 AM PDT

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    •  Unfortunately, (4+ / 0-)
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      claude, neroden, SingerInTheChoir, NMDad

      in New Mexico, it is a combined ticket. There is not a separate race for Lt. Governor.

      Brian Colón is great. He is a young, dynamic candidate, a great stump speaker, filled with energy, highly articulate, with a very good sense of how to convey the important messages. He was the NM Dem Party Chair for the past several years, but it's likely he has not been tarnished as Denish has by the association with Bill. He potentially has a great political future ahead of him.

      Unfortunately, Richardson has done nothing as of late to turn around his horrible reputation in the state. If anything, he's only made it worse, and that's made this election much more difficult.

      Diane Denish is wonderful. She is incredibly hard-working, knows the details of policy intimately, cares a huge amount about New Mexico, and is honest and ethical. She is as progressive as one can get away with being in New Mexico. Unlike Brian Colón she has had to learn how to be an effective campaigner, as her natural style is low key and soft spoken. But she's made huge gains. And she'd be a fabulous governor.

      Personally, I think the campaign stumbled early on by going negative on the day of the primary back in June. That set the stage for Diane to be portrayed as just as bad as Susana Martinez. But Martinez is awful -- she is blatantly opportunistic, has taken on the mantle of the Tea Party, has been endorsed by Sarah, and is getting largely financed by Texas oil and Swift Boat money. Her only qualification is her record as a "tough" prosector. She is unapologetically right-wing, and would love for New Mexico to follow in the footsteps of Jan Brewer in Arizona.

      The contrast could not be more stark.

      Please help Denish and Colón. This is an incredibly important race, not just for New Mexico, but for the entire western mountain region, which is struggling to hold on to its recent coat of blue paint. New Mexico is also a bellwether for hispanic voting. I don't work for the campaign, but I'm an avid supporter. Your help would be wonderful.

      "But there is so much more to do." - Barack Obama, Nov. 4, 2008

      by flitedocnm on Wed Sep 29, 2010 at 08:32:08 AM PDT

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      •  One quick clarification -- (0+ / 0-)

        My "unfortuantely" was perhaps ill chosen. It meant to convey that in this particular race, Colón would go down if Denish isn't elected, as it's a combined ticket. As a general matter of good governance, however, I think it makes very good sense for the ticket to be combined, just as the national ticket of Prez-VP is combined.

        "But there is so much more to do." - Barack Obama, Nov. 4, 2008

        by flitedocnm on Wed Sep 29, 2010 at 08:36:09 AM PDT

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      •  I really don't get how Gov. Richardson's rep (0+ / 0-)

        got hurt.  Damn, we'd have loved to have that competent a Governor in New York.

        -5.63, -8.10. Learn about Duverger's Law.

        by neroden on Wed Sep 29, 2010 at 07:39:47 PM PDT

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  •  Which is D? (3+ / 0-)

    Both are R right now.

    The US Senate is begging to be abolished. Let's fulfill its request.

    by freelunch on Wed Sep 29, 2010 at 07:48:47 AM PDT

  •  The challenge Denish faces (1+ / 0-)
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    The biggest hallenge Denish faces is to show that she is really connected to the people and is not part of a clique.  I hope she is working hard canvassing attending events, talking to people in person as much as possible.  Being aloof will not help her.  If the Republican Martinez speaks Spanish and she doesn't, that is also a potential problem.

    •  Could Denish benefit from their differing (0+ / 0-)

      approaches to addressing corruption?

      Democrat Diane Denish and Republican Susana Martinez disagree on many subjects. An independent ethics commission and whether New Mexico needs one is no exception.
      Denish’s campaign said Monday that her idea would be to create a non-partisan independent ethics commission by executive order on the first day she is governor.

      "She would like for the governor, Legislature and the courts to have appointments to this commission," Denish’s spokesman, Chris Cervini, said in an e-mail message to The Independent.

      The commission would have subpoena power and be able to turn over findings from its investigations to the Attorney General for prosecution, Cervini said.

      Martinez, on the other hand, would eschew any talk of a commission if she were elected governor. Instead she would establish a new division in the New Mexico State Police to help root out corruption "because we must treat it as a crime," Martinez’s campaign manager Ryan Cangliosi said in an e-mail message to The Independent. (Source) (emphasis added)

      For starters, creating a new division within the State Police sounds like "growing the size of government," something Republicans profess to oppose. Denish's proposal to create a commission composed of existing elected and appointed officials would not "grow the size of government." Perhaps that issue and highlighting Martinez' hypocrisy about it could help Denish?

      "Separate but equal" isn't. Anyone kept involuntarily separate can't possibly be considered "equal."

      by 1BQ on Wed Sep 29, 2010 at 02:14:52 PM PDT

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  •  Why did Richardson's ratings drop? (2+ / 0-)
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    OLinda, neroden

    When he won re-election four years ago he had 70% of the vote, his first opponent dropped out of the race and the second one was a joke.  And the light rail was built between Santa Fe and Albuquerque.  NM has has lower unemployment than other states.

  •  My dad just sent me some money. (0+ / 0-)

    I am trying to decide which candidates to send some of that money to. Undecided on Denish. My focus this year had been on people like the Hebrew Hammer and other Hebrew Heroes like Russ Feingold and Barbara Boxer. I like to select a theme every 2 years in terms of where I send money to candidates and this year, I am so inspired by my all time favorite, Alan Grayson, the Hebrew Hammer! that I had decided to make 2010 the year of the Hebrew Heroes. So, not so sure about whether to send some to Denish.

    •  Brian Colon is a Hebrew Hammer (0+ / 0-)

      he is Jewish and Hispanic, which means he unites the Democrats in NE Albuquerque and SW Albuquerque, not an easy accomplishment.  Maybe he would have been a better candidate than Denish for NM Gov

      •  Richardson lost respect (1+ / 0-)
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        Richardson lost much of his respect when his shenanigans in investing
        state funds came to light -- he denied everything, of course, and the
        Obama Admin.'s Justice Department did not pursue the matter -- they
        closed it out. But it had to do with, as I recall, many tens of millions
        of dollars being lost from State funds by a Chicago investment outfit
        that Richardson favored and had supported his campaign.
        Also, his campaign for the Dem. nomination for Pres. was something
        of an embarrassment; he is so goddam self-promoting and so
        ill-spoken and stupid-seeming at times -- people just got disgusted.
        Richardson is a complex person; he can be very progressive and do
        fine things, but he cannot sustain interest or grow. Think of an old
        time costa nostra Spanish "Patron."  That is Richardson.  The local
        joke is that Obama will appoint him Ambassador to Cuba! Haw!

        •  Richardson is a lot better than that (0+ / 0-)

          and he is an excellent diplomat.

          I suspect that any unpopularity really stems from a lack of upward mobility for the lower income people.  He created a lot of jobs, but they were not necessarily upward mobility jobs.  So people saw all of this building in NE Albuquerque but never had access to that lifestyle.

          Another problem is the amount of land being bought by outsiders in NM.

          •  Really not, proud (1+ / 0-)
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            I do not believe, not for one minute, that Richardson is
            an effective diplomat.  He turns up at the right place
            at the right time, and has had minor successes, which would
            have happened anyway; he just took credit. That last
            foray to Africa was non-sense; the matter was already
            complete when he swooped in. I don't trust the man for
            one second. I do applaud him, however, for creating the
            Railrunner commuter line serving Abq/SFE -- a great
            success.  I wonder, however, how much rake-off he got
            from the rail car equipment builders who got a no-bid
            contract, or the even bigger bucks spent with
            engineering and construction firms. Richardson has a
            great aura of the corrupt about him -- which in
            Mexico, which is really his culture, would be business
            as usual for a politician. Don't overlook his many many,
            too many, trips out of State. New Mexican's, many of
            us, think of him as a part-time governor.

            •  No rake-off there. (0+ / 0-)

              Transit funding is extremely transparent.

              What did Richardson get out of that one personally?  His NAME is on it.  "Governor Richardson's Improvement Program".  Everyone associates the RailRunner with Richardson personally even though there were obviously a lot of other people involved in it.

              -5.63, -8.10. Learn about Duverger's Law.

              by neroden on Wed Sep 29, 2010 at 08:22:15 AM PDT

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        •  Oh -- that was the one where Richardson was (0+ / 0-)

          completely cleared of all wrongdoing, wasn't it.

          I agree that he's genuinely self-promoting.  Does that turn people off in NM?

          -5.63, -8.10. Learn about Duverger's Law.

          by neroden on Wed Sep 29, 2010 at 08:23:14 AM PDT

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      •  YES, proud! (0+ / 0-)

        Colon would have been much preferable to Denish.
        She is really not very appealing and he seems fresh
        and energetic. However, do not discount the fine art
        of patronage -- Denish has been the second officer
        of the State for eight years. If she's smart, she has
        built a strong base using usual patronage techniques.
        A lot of her beneficiaries will work to keep her in
        I did not know Colon is Sephardic!  Wow! What a
        strong combination for voters.  That word needs to
        be gotten about a lot more. Thanks for
        So....what can be done to elect the Democrat
        Ms. Carnahan in Missouri over Roy Blunt who is,
        indeed, as Ms Carnahan's ads say, "the most
        corrupt politician in Congress"?  
        I had hoped the Dems would take the Bond seat
        this year.  Cross your fingers.

  •  Isn't Denish supposed to be (D) ? (0+ / 0-)

    Republicans secret dream = the impeachment of Bo the Dog LOL

    by LaurenMonica on Wed Sep 29, 2010 at 07:58:08 AM PDT

  •  Last polling I read... (0+ / 0-)

    Martinez was getting 25% of the Dem Latino vote.  In New Mexico that has to be a pretty sizable number of votes.  

    Grassroot passion comes and goes - Corporate interest in consistent. Message being that if you want to stay elected then sell-out, it's safer.

    by Jonze on Wed Sep 29, 2010 at 07:58:52 AM PDT

  •  Hispanics (0+ / 0-)

    I'm wondering if Martinez is helped by her Spanish name or hindered by the anti Mexican stance so prominent with the Republican Party.  In other words, might Hispanic Rs turn against her as they approach the ballot box?  Kinda hard to be a Republican Hispanic.

    Apres Bush, le deluge.

    by melvynny on Wed Sep 29, 2010 at 08:09:23 AM PDT

    •  Hispanics are 40+ percent (0+ / 0-)

      of the population and about that of the voting population.  There doesn't seem to be an anti-Hispanic prejudice, and prominent Republicans are Hispanic.

      Curiously, you have anti-immigrant, pro-Arizona law Hispanics like Martinez out there that probably in other states you might not see.

      hope that the idiots who have no constructive and creative solutions but only look to tear down will not win the day.

      by Stuart Heady on Wed Sep 29, 2010 at 08:12:12 AM PDT

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      •  bigotry (0+ / 0-)

        I would expect Hispanics of all backgrounds to realize Republican bigotry--if the Dems would treat it as such.  Playing the high ground when your opponent is selectively in the gutter, usually ends up being functionally stupid.

        Apres Bush, le deluge.

        by melvynny on Wed Sep 29, 2010 at 08:20:20 AM PDT

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        •  Ne Mexico Hispanics are not (1+ / 0-)
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          a monolith by any means. There is considerable friction between native Hispanics, who immigrated from Mexico during the 1600s-1800s and those who came later.

          don't always believe what you think...

          by claude on Wed Sep 29, 2010 at 08:44:24 AM PDT

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        •  Sadly, bigotry sells for Hispanos (1+ / 0-)
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          When I did door-to-door for Obama I couldn't believe what "native" Hispanics were saying about immigrants. And what made me really despise Martinez this year was the way she played on that fear via a Willie Horton-styled ad during the NBA playoffs.  Not the way I wanted to enjoy the Lakers!

          "And once again, the forces of niceness and goodness have triumphed over the forces of evil and rottenness." --Maxwell Smart

          by emobile on Wed Sep 29, 2010 at 09:42:50 AM PDT

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      •  Martinez is being painted as 'Tejana' (0+ / 0-)

        Meaning "Texan", by the Denish campaign.  That could be an effective ploy for getting hispanic votes because the nativism that many NM Hispanics feel works against any out-of-stater, not just the recently arrived Mexican immigrants.

        "And once again, the forces of niceness and goodness have triumphed over the forces of evil and rottenness." --Maxwell Smart

        by emobile on Wed Sep 29, 2010 at 09:22:41 AM PDT

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    •  In Nm there are R Native Ams and Hispanics (1+ / 0-)
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      primarily businessmen or employees of defense contractors.

      Also remember that NM has old line wealthy Hispanics whose families have controlled a lot of real estate for a long time.

      •  Distinguish between Hispanics and Spanish (2+ / 0-)
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        melvynny, proud2Bliberal

        If you want to talk about old line families who have been in the state for as long as 350 years, there has to be a distinction made between those of Spanish ancestry and Hispanics, who may be more Mexican or Latin American and Indian in origin.  That distinction is probably not something one would encounter anywhere else to a degree that matters.

        hope that the idiots who have no constructive and creative solutions but only look to tear down will not win the day.

        by Stuart Heady on Wed Sep 29, 2010 at 08:16:34 AM PDT

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        •  there actually ARE a few pure-bred NM (0+ / 0-)

          Hispanics who trace an unsullied lineage back to Spain, but these are vastly outnumbered by those who claim it.

          Many of these are very concerned to not be identified as "Mexican".

          don't always believe what you think...

          by claude on Wed Sep 29, 2010 at 08:49:10 AM PDT

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        •  Hispanic vs. Latino (0+ / 0-)

          I'm from one of the so-called "400 year old families" and so I know the Spanish vs. Mexican identity game well.  My siblings and mother and I personally dislike thinking of ourselves as Spanish because it is elitist and denies the possibility of having any Native American (or Mexican Indian) ancestry.  

          To converse with an average Hispanic voter on this sometimes touchy subject, I refer to the old-line families as Hispanic and newer immigrants as Latinos.  That seems to work.

          "And once again, the forces of niceness and goodness have triumphed over the forces of evil and rottenness." --Maxwell Smart

          by emobile on Wed Sep 29, 2010 at 09:29:05 AM PDT

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    •  You obviously do NOT know New Mexico. (1+ / 0-)
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      Not all states are like Arizona.

  •  NM Awakening (8+ / 0-)

    My sense, having moved here from other states where there is historically a more aggressive and competitive political atmosphere,  as well as much larger populations, is that New Mexico is having a painful awakening.

    Here on Kos, I have noticed that progressives seem to think New Mexico is largely irrelevant as that is a response I have gotten to promoting this race and other concerns.  The reason for that is that historically, a state with only two million people that doesn't make a lot of noise doesn't get much attention.
    I doubt the Act Blue donations are spectacular.

    Martinez is really a Tea Party candidate, a know nothing local county prosecutor who has, at best, a shaky handle on the issues.  What she has going for her is a sort of barely contained rage that at times makes it hard for her to talk, which is what is resonating with people.  

    Denish is a classic Democrat with great knowledge and experience.  She studies issues intensely and understands how government can be made to function, and is a master of the process.  She could really get things done.

    But the argument that resonates with a lot of people is that they want emotion and to vote for someone who doesn't want government to work, just someone who is pissed off at everything.

    You get a sense from Republican commentary when you hear it or see it, that they don't give a hoot.  They just want to throw darts.

    This sentiment could actually win the election.  The money from the Swift Boat people from Houston and other Texas Big Oil sources is tremendous
    and it pays for a lot of hard hitting TV ads.

    My sense is that Democrats in New Mexico are used to more genteel politics and that there is a libertarian streak in the culture that is just contrary.  

    Bill Richardson has done a lot of amazing things for New Mexico, but unfortunately it is a case of familiarity breeds contempt.  He is probably too well known.

    He has done some visionary things like supporting the development of a film industry, solar and alternative energy, a light rail commuter train and even a spaceport for the future.

    Also, there have been some spectacular cases of "pay to play" politics that have made the Democrats in general vulnerable to a charge that there is an attitude of tolerance for people in public life with their hand in the till.  

    There is just enough of that in the atmosphere that it may reduce enthusiasm among suburban swing voters in places like Albuquerque's West Side.

    Keep in mind that the state is small enough that a city of 650,000 people accounts for roughly half of the voters in New Mexico.  Santa Fe is small, at around 40,000 people.  Taos is even smaller.  The other half of the state is ranch country, small towns and oil fields.  Think West Texas.  

    hope that the idiots who have no constructive and creative solutions but only look to tear down will not win the day.

    by Stuart Heady on Wed Sep 29, 2010 at 08:09:53 AM PDT

  •  Judging by local opinion Denish is running a very (4+ / 0-)
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    KayCeSF, Stuart Heady, neroden, flitedocnm

    lackadaisical campaign and she is the one who appears to lack enthusiasm. It will be a battle and Martinez is from the southern part, Las Cruces, which is more Republican than the north where I am.

    Not sure how the President's visit to Albuquerque has played in the state. I feel it didn't help to have yesterdays diary on this site criticizing his remarks about his faith. This is an extremely Catholic state in some areas and faith is very important  to the Hispanic community.  Obviously they dont read Daily Kos but it might color the perceptions of some who do read it.

    Personalty I don't think that any candidate can come to New Mexico without being prepared to answer questions regarding their personal faith. It certainly doesn't offend me, and I am an atheist. I understand the political importance of faith in the political arena in America..

    •  Faith based charities (2+ / 0-)
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      soccergrandmom, cordobes

      Albuquerque would be chaos without the Catholic and Methodist charities

      •  proud, and Presbyterian! (2+ / 0-)
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        soccergrandmom, cordobes
        •  Presbyterian hospital (0+ / 0-)

          There is a Presbyterian hospital in Albuquerque, but their insurance plans are expensive - high deductibles.  So I think the masses of low income people are mostly getting health care at the community health clincs and UNM

          •  Proud, look at history.... (0+ / 0-)

            In the 19th and early 20th Centuries, the Presbyterian Church,
            right up there with the R. C. church, did the most to create
            education and medical institutions, and even had missionaries
            in the New Mexico territory and later state. It's just a part
            of history. I don't care who gets the credit.  As long as they
            keep it up. Which they are not, very much. The State and Feds
            have taken much of that over.

          •  Pres Hosp has as much to do with the church (0+ / 0-)

            as the Republican Party has to do with promoting the middle class.

            In short, nothing. They have strayed a very long ways from being a charitable institution, although the hospital system is still officially non profit.

            The Pres Hospital system is a gorilla in NM, dominating health care in Albuquerque and many other communities where they have a hospital and an employed physician group, and they have never hesitated to use their power to decimate successful independent physicians who are doing well and won't buckle under to them and sell out to become Pres employees. And yes, their insurance is expensive. Plus, there is a concern (not proven, but suspected) that they are able to funnel insurance company profits through their tax exempt delivery system by paying above market value rates.

            I know this is off topic, but since you brought it up, I felt I needed to comment.

            "But there is so much more to do." - Barack Obama, Nov. 4, 2008

            by flitedocnm on Wed Sep 29, 2010 at 10:39:58 AM PDT

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    •  Denish campaign (2+ / 0-)
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      When I asked, I was told that the Denish campaign is using out of state consultants for TV.  

      My sense is that New Mexico is small enough that there really are not very many practitioners of political consulting, strategy or aggressive debating in state.

      Martinez' campaign also seems to be largely an out of state operation with funding from national Republican sources who are investing in redistricting and more pro-big oil and anti-environmental and alternative energy policy.

      Denish is running pretty much according to formula, which is to be solid, show experience in as many areas as possible and to be sensible.  In other states that may not be a great way to campaign, but in New Mexico there are many people who are insulted by more emotional manipulation.  

      The question is whether or not the Martinez' approach, which is also formula, which is to just be negative almost all the time, will be a new day for New Mexico politics.  In which case the same spiral of negativity will mark the atmosphere here.  If Martinez wins, she will have made a lot of promises that are not based on reality, and will be fighting the legislature all the time and getting very little done.  

      I think the Denish campaign ought to flesh out what this looks like.  But I doubt they will depart now from the well established script.  

      hope that the idiots who have no constructive and creative solutions but only look to tear down will not win the day.

      by Stuart Heady on Wed Sep 29, 2010 at 08:31:40 AM PDT

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      •  Martinez' approach is a Heather Wilson approach. (1+ / 0-)
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        So I don't see her approach as a new approach from Republicans, at all. God help us if that woman wins this.

        I don't believe Denish is putting enough energy into her campaign.  But I'm in Santa Fe, so maybe I'm not seeing what she's doing in the rest of the state.

        I will say this, she has done Richardson's job for 8 years.  She deserves the "Gov." in front of her name.  She's not very charismatic, but she's a hard worker.

        Richardson has lost Democrats the Dem votes.  I'm not sorry to see him leave, but I damned well don't want to see him replaced with Martinez.

    •  sgm (5+ / 0-)

      I have 40 years worth  of friends in northern NM, and I can count on one hand those who know about DKOS, so I really wouldn't worry about what gets said here.

      Yes, faith and family are important to NM Hispanics, but family trumps faith, and a Hispanic surname gets you votes, even if you are R, and the Church sways some votes as well.

      There are also many Pentecostal and Evangelical Hispanics receiving their voting instructions from their churches.

      don't always believe what you think...

      by claude on Wed Sep 29, 2010 at 08:59:21 AM PDT

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      •  Can't disagree with a thing you just said, claude (3+ / 0-)
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        claude, neroden, SingerInTheChoir

        Unfortunately, New Mexicans have a habit of voting against their best interests.  Cronyism has trumped here for decades.  And Yes, the Church does sway votes as well.

        If Martinez wins this race, NM is going to see us go back to the "glory days" of Pete Domenici.  Oil and all that implies.  Screw the middle class.

        We should all worry about this.  We finally got rid of Pete Domenici and Heather Wilson.  Are we going to go backwards in this state?   I worry.  :(

  •  The GOPer's last name is the difference. (1+ / 0-)
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    Let's be hoest here.

  •  In other news: Grayson's losing by 7. (1+ / 0-)
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    I think the "Taliban Dan" stuff is hurting him more than his opponent.

  •  The locals in Taos seemed to be for (0+ / 0-)

    Martinez.  Something about water rights.

  •  Santa Fe's population (3+ / 0-)
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    itskevin, KayCeSF, Stuart Heady

    SFE's year-round population is approx. 75,000; in
    the summer season it is well over 100,000.  All
    expectations are that the 2010 census will show
    plentiful growth in the State's capital city.
    I live here, and all I see all around the south and
    west and n. west edges of town is growth and
    more growth.
    Doctors' appointments take six weeks to two months,
    and r. e. prices have held up well, esp. high-end.

    •  Gay population in Sante Fe (1+ / 0-)
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      I wonder what percentage is gay in Sante Fe.  Because of the art world there, I think there are many gay couples, including older gay couples retiring there.  

      •  SF has a very strong GBLT (1+ / 0-)
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        community, including politicians at local and State level. SF is very gay-tolerant.

        don't always believe what you think...

        by claude on Wed Sep 29, 2010 at 09:05:31 AM PDT

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        •  Santa fe Gay (0+ / 0-)

          Yes, SFE is very gay tolerant -- it is my understanding that
          in the 1920s a relatively large population of maiden ladies
          who liked horses was established with their trust funds, etc.,
          and their girlfriends; then after the late 1950s, when the
          opera was established, the gay gents came in at least for
          the summer and many remained year-round. I find SFE
          rather relaxed about all that and it is refreshing. It
          remains, however, and always will be, a third-world city
          that can't quite keep the electric power on 100% of the
          time, the water free of rust or god-knows-what, and
          maybe a little bribery at City Hall to get your new house
          plans approved.  All the usual.  And if you need really
          serious surgery or hospital treatment you go to Abq.
          to get it, or to you second home in Palm Springs or
          East Hampton! :)

    •  Does this growth represent Rs or Ds? (0+ / 0-)

      Generally when you have an influx of high end, well to do newcomers, they probably aren't going to be voters for a while until they start to become more interested in the community.  

      Santa Fe used to be pretty progressive.  I wonder if this influx is going to turn out to be more Republican...

      hope that the idiots who have no constructive and creative solutions but only look to tear down will not win the day.

      by Stuart Heady on Wed Sep 29, 2010 at 08:36:07 AM PDT

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      •  Stuart....I'm not sure, (1+ / 0-)
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        But my impression is that SFE is still a very blue
        town, and the high-enders that move here tend to
        be from Hollywood or the arts world and they are
        notoriously liberal.  In more ways than one.
        You should have seen Shirley McLean take on the
        City Council; they won, of course. And, then, dear
        old Carol Burnet built a $9-million home here
        but moved away in only a few years, "because
        nobody recognized me when I went into a
        restaurant!"  Poor thang!  People like that are not
        going to be happy here.  You know the old
        Spanish saying, "You can't beat city hall!"  :)

  •  OT 'breaking' gubernatorial (Meg Whitman) (0+ / 0-)

    Sorry to veer off track from NM, but I just found an interesting tidbit:

    The former housekeeper for Meg Whitman  -- the Republican candidate for Governor of California -- is about to make "controversial and explosive allegations about her former employer," TMZ has learned.

    Granted, it's from TMZ, a gossip site, but they're generally spot-on with all things 'California'.

    They posted it about 3 1/2 hours ago, and I haven't seen anything else about it. I thought about diarying it, but gubernatorial doesn't really interest me that much, and I wanna save today's diary for later.

    If anyone cares:

    We're told the housekeeper has lawyered up with none other than Gloria Allred. The housekeeper and Allred will hold a news conference today in Gloria's office at 11 AM PT, "to tell how she suffered as a long-time, Latina household employee in Meg Whitman's home."  

    And no, I'm totally not pimping for TMZ!

    draw a window on the wall to remind you of the silkrain that makes things grow - Yoko Ono

    by quinn on Wed Sep 29, 2010 at 08:36:25 AM PDT

  •  Cut to the chase (0+ / 0-)

    Her name is what has her ahead in current polling.

    Pure and simple, you can digest & dissect that, but them's the apples.

    Comin' from a 5th generation New Mexican.

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