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Teachers unions are at the root of the problems with our education system; teachers expect unreasonable salaries when they don't actually work a full day and get their summers off, PLUS they get a retirement pension!  What's up with that?

I propose that teachers be paid at the same rate as babysitters, since that's basically they're doing.

The going rate for babysitters varies widely across the country, from maybe $7/hr. to $15/hr., but there's usually a discount for taking care of multiple kids.  So let's low-ball it and say $5/hr. per kid.  

Class sizes have been growing for years, approaching an average of 30 students/class, but we'll be conservative and say that the average teacher has a class of 25 students.

School years also vary, but a conservative estimate of 32 weeks of school (August 30th - June 16th) minus standard holidays totals approximately 140 classroom days.

And teachers claim to arrive early to get the classroom set up, and also claim to stay late grading papers and preparing for the next class, but let's be realistic and assume they're in the classroom with our children from 8 A.M. until 3 P.M.; 7 hours total.

So let's total this up:

       140 classroom days
x         7 hrs./day
=       980 classroom hours
x        25 students per class
=    24,500 babysitting hours
x       $5 per hour for babysitting each student
= $122,500/year

That seems reasonable, when you also take into account the fact that they're not JUST babysitters, but are actually teaching our children.

So maybe someone could explain to me why teachers are paid less that babysitters.

Originally posted to jexter on Mon Oct 04, 2010 at 11:46 PM PDT.

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  •  Tip Jar (24+ / 0-)

    In related news, Nancy Pelosi announces that impeaching President Obama is absolutely not off the table...

    by jexter on Mon Oct 04, 2010 at 11:46:13 PM PDT

  •  clever /nt (5+ / 0-)

    This makes about as much sense as Mike Huckabee on mescaline. - Prodigal 2-6-2008

    by Tonedevil on Mon Oct 04, 2010 at 11:50:56 PM PDT

  •  Fewer students in a private school (6+ / 0-)

    AND "part-time"--and yet...6 to 10 hours every weekend grading and prepping beyond the weekday work.

    Don't know how my daughter does it all with 140 students and full-time at a public school. Sometimes in our overlap free time in summer, we compare notes on how our prep for the next year is going. We do take vacations, though--mine about 3 weeks longer than my public-school-teacher daughter.

    A poet's work is to name the unnameable, to point at frauds, to take sides, start arguments, shape the world, and stop it going to sleep. ...Salman Rushdie

    by begone on Tue Oct 05, 2010 at 12:17:03 AM PDT

  •  lmao. nt (1+ / 0-)
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    Mostel26

    People are often unreasonable, illogical and self-centered: forgive 'em anyway. --anonymous

    by b4uknowit on Tue Oct 05, 2010 at 04:02:23 AM PDT

  •  Because you'd have to pay $20K in property taxes (1+ / 0-)
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    Churchill

    to support the schools at that level.

    Somewhere in heaven, Paul Simon and Paul Wellstone are looking down and asking "WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU GUYS DOING?!"

    by nightsweat on Tue Oct 05, 2010 at 04:44:43 AM PDT

  •  Babysitters work less with more kids, to a point (0+ / 0-)

    The kids play with each other, so the babysitter doesn't have to play with them.  

    The irony here, well one of them anyway, is that some recent diaries around here unwittingly feed into the teachers-as-babysitters idea by saying that families are to blame for failures in the classroom.

    The most impressive thing about man [...] is the fact that he has invented the concept of that which does not exist--Glenn Gould

    by Rich in PA on Tue Oct 05, 2010 at 04:57:15 AM PDT

    •  I don't agree with your point here (5+ / 0-)

      The diaries have been pointing out that "Teacher as superman" analogy is a false construct of a business world agenda to destroy public education.  By and large the diary comments are pointing out that factors external to the teacher can factor into student achievement and laying sole responsibility on achievement gaps on a teacher is wrong. Until society puts a financial premium on remediating poverty born inequality, schools will continue to reflect inequality. Schools can provide ways to bridge that gap, but the filling of those gaps needs to be done by additional staff, not extended duties placed on teachers themselves. Extended school years, extended school days, weekend cell phone answering duty, and other such tasks cannot be added to the already high demands on staff. Railing against those measures is not "blaming parents", it is simply not being willing to directly step into a role beyond that of normal classroom instruction.  

  •  You're lowballing that. (2+ / 0-)
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    Daddy Bartholomew, cfk

    The school year is 180-200 school days.

    "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." --M. L. King "You can't fix stupid" --Ron White

    by zenbassoon on Tue Oct 05, 2010 at 05:22:15 AM PDT

  •  I love this approach - been using same argument (4+ / 0-)

    For years. My sister is a teacher, and works harder than anyone.

    Plus, don't forget respect. Money like that would go a long way towards putting up with idiot parents!!

    And even better, make the parents show up every day with cash in hand.

    Deferment Dick -The Happy Torturer

    by Mr Magu on Tue Oct 05, 2010 at 05:37:18 AM PDT

  •  Nearly twice as much as I have ever made... (4+ / 0-)

    ...in a year, and I teach on the college level.

  •  also (1+ / 0-)
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    princesspat

    hubby and I had to pay into our pension plan.  

    Join us at Bookflurries: Bookchat on Wednesday nights 8:00 PM EST

    by cfk on Tue Oct 05, 2010 at 09:51:10 AM PDT

  •  several things wrong with your piece (0+ / 0-)

    average school days -  180 instructional

    average class size -  depends where you are.  My 6 this year, in increasing size, are 20, 30, 37, 38 38, 30 = 193/6 = 32+

    and sorry, I am insulted - and my students would be insulted - by the presumption that I am doing little but babysitting

    oh  my school day runs officially from 8:10 until 3:30, with 45 minutes for lunch and 45 minutes for planning.  Except twice a month I have meetings beginning at 7:30.  Parent conferences can begin at 7:45 but usually at 8.  

    And that does not include the time spent on planning and grading and the like outside of school.

    We are furloughed 4 days this year.  So instead of 12 days we will only have 8 when we must work w/o teaching classes.

    "what the best and wisest parent wants for his child is what we should want for all the children of the community" - John Dewey

    by teacherken on Tue Oct 05, 2010 at 08:23:31 PM PDT

    •  I'm surprised, Ken. (3+ / 0-)
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      Churchill, DemSign, princesspat

      The whole point of the piece is that even by underestimating all the factors involved, we still pay teachers a niggardly sum for their efforts.

      The tone of the piece is essentially satirical, although perhaps somewhat below the standards of Jonathan Swift. I'm certain the author was not seriously claiming that teachers are no better than babysitters, particularly when the last two sentences are taken into account:

      That seems reasonable, when you also take into account the fact that they're not JUST babysitters, but are actually teaching our children.

      So maybe someone could explain to me why teachers are paid less that babysitters.

      Take another look. I thought it was worth a rec.

      I sure wish my government gave me as much privacy as they demand I give them.

      by Daddy Bartholomew on Tue Oct 05, 2010 at 08:39:15 PM PDT

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  •  But, teaching is women's work! (0+ / 0-)

    They're supposed to do more for less. Didn't you get the memo?

    Radarlady, perpetually caught in the "women have to work twice as hard to be known half as well" vise

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