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It's just started and she read the Bill Maher false equivalence criticism of Jon to him. (NOTE: My transcript consists of the gist of what they were saying, not direct quotes.)

Jon: It's not fair. My intention with the rally was to say that we've all bought into left, right, red, blue. Cable is amplifying a division that is false. Both sides have their way of shutting down debate. In my world, the real division is corruption vs. not corruption.

Rachel: What's the lefty way of shutting down debate?

Jon: By saying Bush is war criminal. In my world, Pol Pot is a war criminal. Saying Bush is a war criminal is shutting down conversation.

Tea Partiers:

Jon: You covered it as astroturf.

Rachel: I think they were appropriately identified.

The difference between Jon being on Comedy Central and Rachel being on MSNBC

Jon: I'm a 22-minute show. I am not reinforced there's no amplifying effect to what I do.


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Here's a brief history of Jon and Rachel's televised encounters:


Jon: They're ideological but not partisan. (This will be the headline heard round the world.)

Raw, uncut video will be available Friday at

Is The Daily Show like a real news show?

Jon: I feel more of a kinship to Jerry Seinfeld than MSNBC news. Crafting escoteric things that connects with people.

Rachel: I think people think of my show and your show as equivalent. With my style, people think I'm trying to be you. Does that worry you?

Jon: The box I'm in has always existed. Smother Brothers, Bill Maher paved the way for what I do

Rachel: That's a news flash right. They don't see themselves as a fake news show anymore. They don't see themselves as a news show at all.

Coming up.... Jon scolds Rachel for calling tea partiers teabaggers.

Jon: Teabagger is derogatory.

Rachel: You don't think it was funny?

Jon: For a day. Not for a month.

Rachel: I didn't run with it for a month.

Jon: You had a chance to make a difference. You're in the game.

Rachel: You're in the same game.

Jon: I'm not on the field. I'm in the stands. I could have gone on the field but I didn't because I am where I belong. I don't take any satisfaction just being a critic like Roger Ebert. There is no honor in what I do but I do it as honorably as I can.

Rachel: I am not on the field either. I don't say to call your congressman.

Jon: You don't think we're fair to MSNBC?

Rachel: Actually I don't.


The end

Jon: You can edit this out if you want. I like you...You, my friend, are like ginger root. You are the ginger root of interviewers, in that you have pulled things out of me I never knew were there, and yet, still I leave not nauseous."


Thanks for hanging out everybody. I enjoyed the comments a lot.



The Function of Satire vs. News

Jon Stewart on George Bush

Are Jon Stewart and Rachel Maddow in the Same Game?

Originally posted to FiredUpInCA on Thu Nov 11, 2010 at 06:06 PM PST.

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