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Keith Olbermann was back on the air less than 4 days after he was suspended, in large part due to the Bold Progressives petition. The Tax Bill for the Rich Petition, stalled just below 150K.

With as much righteous indignation that I read on this site concerning the coming fight over the Bush Tax Cuts, you wouldn't notice it from watching the count of signatures on Bold Progressives petition to fight their extension.

It took less than 4 days to get 300,000 signatures on Bold Progressives' petition to MSNBC to reinstate Keith Olbermann (to which he was extremely grateful).

It has been over a week since they put out their petition to the President concerning the possibility of an extension of tax cuts for those making over $250,000 a year.

Its count is 144,000 plus.

I think even Keith would think that this is pathetic. "Me more important than stopping the tax cuts for the wealthiest 2% in this country? Really?"

I find it fascinating that people who write on this blog rail at everything under the sun regarding how things are not progressive enough in this country, but when it comes to actually doing something about it the response seems to be "Eh, not so much."

This is one of the easiest things to do. Most people here have probably signed up for one petition or another from BoldProgressives.org. They already have your e-mail, so signing it won't add you to any more e-mail lists. As a matter of fact, you probably were sent an e-mail or two already from them. If that is the case and you feel strongly about it, then click on the damn link.

We all need to move on through the rest of the stages of grief and not get stuck in "Anger". I know most of you are pissed, but that doesn't mean that you stop trying. Or did you not try in the first place? Are some of you the kind of "summer soldier" or "sunshine patriot" that hangs around until the going gets tough, but walks away after the disappointment hits?

I know this last election was hard. For those who think that all is lost, I have something to tell you: This kind of thing happens. It happened in 1994 and 2002. It sucks. However, we came back and we can do it again.

I, for one, am getting a bit tired of the negativity on this site. I realize the President is not perfect, but I truly do not believe that he or the Democrats have given up.

I would have reacted the same way after something like this. He might be saying to himself, "Well, we got beat, but that which does not kill me, makes me stronger." He has been humbled. We all have. I, for one, am glad that he feels that way. His predecessor sure didn't. President Obama realizes that he made mistakes. He has learned from this.

I think it is worth noting that just the other day he called Sen. Carl Levin and told him to put DADT back in the defense authorization bill just hours after the senator withdrew it from the same bill. The President wants this and he is working the Senate to get it done. This does not look like someone who is ready to quit, like a certain half-term governor from Alaska who is thinking of replacing the President.

I know there will be lots of snark with this diary. Fine. Get it out of your system. Get back up, dust yourself off and get back to work. This ain't over by a long shot. And if you didn't help or vote during this last election cycle, I want you to seriously ask yourself why. Decisions are made by those who show up, not those who just bitch about it.

You can start here.

Originally posted to Guilty Outsourcer on Fri Nov 19, 2010 at 05:52 AM PST.

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  •  I would imagine most feel that they actually (9+ / 0-)

    have a chance of influencing MSNBC, and that they don't have a chance of influencing Congress, who have been bought and sold already, nor the White House, which has signalled its preemptive surrender on the matter.

    But that's just a guess.

    neca politicos omnes; deus nullos agnoscet.

    by khereva on Fri Nov 19, 2010 at 05:56:42 AM PST

  •  Why not just ask ? (0+ / 0-)

    Far too early in the morning this.

  •  You give yourself too much credit (1+ / 0-)
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    I don't think that one petition played that great a roll in getting Keith back on the air.

    It was the individual phone calls and faxes and outcries from others in the media that did it, IMHO.

    ---
    Mr. Rogers taught us to be better than this.

    by VelvetElvis on Fri Nov 19, 2010 at 05:57:32 AM PST

  •  Is the going to happen with every petition? (5+ / 0-)

    The other day, someone penned a diary griping that fewer than the 300,000 who signed the petition for KO had signed the one backing Nancy Pelosi. Despite that seeming lack of enthusiasm on our part, Nancy Pelosi was overwhelmingly elected Minority Leader, and wrote a note thanking the DK community.

    Now not as many people as signed the KO petition have signed the one supporting letting the Bush tax cuts on the wealthy expire. And yet, despite this, Obama and the Dem leadership signalled yesterday that they're prepared to challenge the Republicans on this.

    Is the KO petition now going to be the Gold Standard by which all other petitions are judged? Is any petition receiving less than 300,000 signatures in three days, despite the outcome of the issue being petitioned on, going to be deemed a failure?

    Spare me the hand-wringing on petition signatures, please. Let's judge our success or failure as a community based on outcomes, not some perceived level of required participation. This isn't Dancing With the Stars, with Keith Olbermann competing against Nancy Pelosi and the Bush Tax Cuts, and 300,000 is not a magic number.

    And for the record, I signed all three petitions.

    •  Well said... (1+ / 0-)
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      I have also e-mailed the white house several times and written my congressmen, despite their being total nimrods. Do that, too, please...I do think the Olbermann petition-gasm was kind of a singular event, but it did restore my faith in such things slightly...that was worthwhile.

      "You have three friends in your life: God, your Mama, and the Democratic Party. And I'm not so sure about your Mama." --Alan Grayson

      by chicating on Fri Nov 19, 2010 at 06:23:45 AM PST

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    •  And I pointed out in that diary (1+ / 0-)
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      That even though I had signed both those petitiond, I had done far more emailing and calling on Pelosi's behalf than I did for KO. Moreover, I have been doing lot more overall to contact congressmembers since coming to DKos, and it was KO's defense of this site against O'Reilly slander that lead me to check it out in the first place.

      Also there's big difference between a person on the TV and someone who represents us within thegovernment. You can definitely expect more dissent and disagreement on the later. Using the response to KO's suspension too gauge how much people care about government issues is quite specious (I feel I've been using that word a lot lately).

      (-8.50, -7.64) Virtue cannot separate itself from reality without becoming a principle of evil. - Albert Camus

      by croyal on Fri Nov 19, 2010 at 08:13:31 AM PST

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      •  I admit I had not... (0+ / 0-)

        I admit I shifted into Fandom Mode, more because a Save Our Show campaign is something I know well and had some success with, not from any lack of concern about policy, I should add.
        But I reversed course thanks to the last diary on a similar subject.

        "You have three friends in your life: God, your Mama, and the Democratic Party. And I'm not so sure about your Mama." --Alan Grayson

        by chicating on Fri Nov 19, 2010 at 08:49:24 AM PST

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  •  Now you know why crap like... (2+ / 0-)
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    .. "Dancing with the Stars" or "American Idol" or "Survivivor: My Basement"can be #1 on television and people spend inordinate amounts of time caring about this garbage.

    Unfortunately, it's a reflection of the shallow culture we inhabit.

    Keith Olbermann's on-air well-being is more important than fair tax policy.

    Puddles of their own bodily fluids will lie beneath their desk chairs.

    by Bob Johnson on Fri Nov 19, 2010 at 06:17:15 AM PST

  •  Don't blame me. (0+ / 0-)

    I signed them.
    All three of them.
    And I don't pay taxes.
    (most of my friends do)

    "You have three friends in your life: God, your Mama, and the Democratic Party. And I'm not so sure about your Mama." --Alan Grayson

    by chicating on Fri Nov 19, 2010 at 06:18:44 AM PST

  •  Just a thought... (0+ / 0-)

    ...if you're on Twitter, tweet Keith and ask his opinion for sure. It would probably be as the diarist suggests, and you actually might get a mention on Countdown. That, in turn, may get more signatories.

    Float like a manhole cover, sting like a sash weight! Clean Coal Is A Clinker!

    by JeffW on Fri Nov 19, 2010 at 06:32:29 AM PST

  •  I don't like the wording of the petition (7+ / 0-)

    I hate all caps here on DKos, so seeing that in a petition that I'm supposed to sign is really not helpful.

    "The perfect is the enemy of the good." - Voltaire

    by Lawrence on Fri Nov 19, 2010 at 06:52:43 AM PST

    •  That is EXACTLY the reason why (5+ / 0-)

      I didn't sign it.  And I stated I didn't like the wording and the tone when they first posted the link.  And I also made clear I sent my own petition, but in much more respecful language.

      So trying to shame us now because they composed a shitty petition is rather cheeky.

      This is not a book (Atlas Shrugged) to be tossed aside lightly. It should be thrown, with great force. - Dorothy Parker

      by edwardssl on Fri Nov 19, 2010 at 07:11:57 AM PST

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  •  Maybe folks are just tired (3+ / 0-)
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    of progressive organizations using online petitions as a way of harvesting their email addresses. I know I'm bloody sick of the spam.

  •  Personality based, not policy based interest... (1+ / 0-)
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    because policy is much more difficult I guess. Similarly, I was disappointed that the fiscal commission was reduced to "catfood" instead of getting in front of budget policies like defense cuts, more progressive taxation, public option to reduce medical expense. But no, it's easier to talk about SS which already has support of 70 percent of the populace, and to talk about the personalities of the commission.

    Slavery is the legal fiction that a person is property. Corporate personhood is the legal fiction that property is a person. -Jan Edwards

    by SoCalSal on Fri Nov 19, 2010 at 06:57:06 AM PST

  •  I also disagree with the TONE of the petition (8+ / 0-)

    My support for ending tax cuts for the rich has nothing to do with the 2012 horserace .

    The President deserves at least my respect when I lobby on any issue.

    First rule of lobbying - build relationship, then make your case.

    Let's break our dependence on foreign goods and our multinational masters. Shop American. May Peace Prevail

    by revgerry on Fri Nov 19, 2010 at 06:58:43 AM PST

  •  The loudest "progressives" (2+ / 0-)
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    on the cable teevee and blogosphere are millionaires. They will not benefit if the Bush Tax cuts are left to expire. So it's not in their best interest to push the tax cuts for middle class only, although they will glady partake in the ratings-generating controversy that they stoke up with their divide-n-conquer tactics.

    •  I don't think KO wants the tax cut... (0+ / 0-)

      he seems upset by the thought that the messaging might go awry and the government not follow the political will on it. But maybe he should say "Tax me...I don't mind." or "put some of the passion with which you have defended me into making a statement on the tax issue."
      On a related note, I think "spinefullness" should be a word(thanks, Rachel) and I hope I get many exciting new chances to use it.

      "You have three friends in your life: God, your Mama, and the Democratic Party. And I'm not so sure about your Mama." --Alan Grayson

      by chicating on Fri Nov 19, 2010 at 08:58:09 AM PST

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  •  I eventually signed that petition on the tax cuts (2+ / 0-)
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    but with some reluctance because I firmly believe that directing it to the President, who is not the source of the resistance or legislative wishy-washiness, is silly.  Perhaps others feel the way I do.  I don't know.

    "Put your big-girl panties on and deal with it." -- Stolen from homogenius, who in turn stole it from a coffee mug.

    by Mother of Zeus on Fri Nov 19, 2010 at 07:40:36 AM PST

  •  I had not even known of this (0+ / 0-)

    petition. Who's fault there?

    (-8.50, -7.64) Virtue cannot separate itself from reality without becoming a principle of evil. - Albert Camus

    by croyal on Fri Nov 19, 2010 at 08:06:58 AM PST

  •  I Didn't Sign the Petition (0+ / 0-)

    I already know Obama will veto a bill containing only tax cuts for the richest two percent, but I also know (like everybody else) that he won't get that bill.  And I'm not going to tell him to veto any bill that includes the top two percent because that might also mean vetoing the extension for poeple that aren't in a position to cough up an extra $35 a paycheck right now.

    Dear Wall Street: If you want to stop feeling like a piñata, stop stuffing yourself with our f#@$ing candy.

    by TooFolkGR on Fri Nov 19, 2010 at 08:11:43 AM PST

  •  Worded properly it might have garnered 500K. (1+ / 0-)
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    I suspect I was not alone in deciding not to sign that juvenile and insulting petition. I did make my views known directly with the White House.

  •  Didn't like the way it was worded... (0+ / 0-)

    ... especially addressed to the President.

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