Skip to main content

I was most disappointed watching President Obama talk about compromise on taxes and the give away treaty with South Korea.

The question is what to do. The answer is simple, convince President Obama that his base will not vote for him in 2012 unless he changes. Life is that simple. Will a republican president with a republican house and senate really suck? They sure will, but no worse than President Obama.

How many roads must a man walk down
Before they call him a man
How many seas must a white dove sail
Before she sleeps in the sand
How many times must the cannonballs fly
Before they are forever banned
The answer, my friend, is blowing in the wind
The answer is blowing in the wind

How many years must a mountain exist
Before it is washed to the sea
How many years can some people exist
Before they're allowed to be free
How many times can a man turn his head
And pretend that he just doesn't see
The answer, my friend, is blowing in the wind
The answer is blowing in the wind

How many times must a man look up
Before he can see the sky
How many ears must one man have
Before he can hear people cry
How many deaths will it take till he knows
That too many people have died
The answer, my friend, is blowing in the wind
The answer is blowing in the wind

By Bob Dylan

or to put it another way:

How many ears must President Obama have
Before he can hear people cry
How many deaths will it take till he knows
That too many people have died
The answer, my friend, is blowing in the wind
The answer is blowing in the wind

with apologies to Bob Dylan

The answer my friend is until he realizes he will not be reelected

I highly recommend someone in the Democratic party run in a primary against President Obama. Hopefully another Eugene McCarthy will magically appear and run. Vote for a write in, say Alan Grayson or even better Bernie Sanders,  for example. Too bad we cannot write in the names of electors in the states.

Originally posted to Lawrence A. Welsch on Sat Dec 04, 2010 at 12:41 PM PST.

Your Email has been sent.
You must add at least one tag to this diary before publishing it.

Add keywords that describe this diary. Separate multiple keywords with commas.
Tagging tips - Search For Tags - Browse For Tags


More Tagging tips:

A tag is a way to search for this diary. If someone is searching for "Barack Obama," is this a diary they'd be trying to find?

Use a person's full name, without any title. Senator Obama may become President Obama, and Michelle Obama might run for office.

If your diary covers an election or elected official, use election tags, which are generally the state abbreviation followed by the office. CA-01 is the first district House seat. CA-Sen covers both senate races. NY-GOV covers the New York governor's race.

Tags do not compound: that is, "education reform" is a completely different tag from "education". A tag like "reform" alone is probably not meaningful.

Consider if one or more of these tags fits your diary: Civil Rights, Community, Congress, Culture, Economy, Education, Elections, Energy, Environment, Health Care, International, Labor, Law, Media, Meta, National Security, Science, Transportation, or White House. If your diary is specific to a state, consider adding the state (California, Texas, etc). Keep in mind, though, that there are many wonderful and important diaries that don't fit in any of these tags. Don't worry if yours doesn't.

You can add a private note to this diary when hotlisting it:
Are you sure you want to remove this diary from your hotlist?
Are you sure you want to remove your recommendation? You can only recommend a diary once, so you will not be able to re-recommend it afterwards.
Rescue this diary, and add a note:
Are you sure you want to remove this diary from Rescue?
Choose where to republish this diary. The diary will be added to the queue for that group. Publish it from the queue to make it appear.

You must be a member of a group to use this feature.

Add a quick update to your diary without changing the diary itself:
Are you sure you want to remove this diary?
(The diary will be removed from the site and returned to your drafts for further editing.)
(The diary will be removed.)
Are you sure you want to save these changes to the published diary?

Comment Preferences

  •  Tip Jar (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    agnostic, BlackQueen40

    Practice tolerance, kindness and charity.

    by LWelsch on Sat Dec 04, 2010 at 12:41:10 PM PST

  •  You have a serious problem (9+ / 0-)

    with credibility here.

    Fact: Obama's base supports him with an 85% approval.

    Fact: The US-South Korea deal is a win for the US

    Fact:The Republicans have always worked on behalf of the wealthiest in this country, long before Obama became a politician, much less president.

    Fact: You have outed your motives with your "Republican President is no worse than Obama" narrative.

    FAIL. Try again.

    •  I want Obama to live up to the rhetoric he ran on (1+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:

      Practice tolerance, kindness and charity.

      by LWelsch on Sat Dec 04, 2010 at 12:50:39 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

    •  Trouble is Korea deal has to be (3+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      LWelsch, bythesea, shenderson

      ratified by congress since the President's trade promotion authority expired at the end of June.

      There are objections to this deal on both sides of the aisle and the pacific.

      Steel workers here

      Farmers there

      Just before you get to carried away by this.

      "Another world is not only possible, she is on her way. On a quiet day, I can hear her breathing." Arundhati Roy

      by LaFeminista on Sat Dec 04, 2010 at 12:54:55 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

    •  I suggest you read (0+ / 0-)

      Practice tolerance, kindness and charity.

      by LWelsch on Sat Dec 04, 2010 at 01:01:32 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

      •  DOW SUPPORTS THE DEAL! (0+ / 0-)

        Burns Hails "Major Milestone" in Economic Growth

        Download image

        MIDLAND, Mich., Dec. 3, 2010 PRNewswire -- Dow Corning chairman and CEO Dr. Stephanie A. Burns applauded today's announcement of a U.S. and South Korean free-trade deal that the Obama administration hopes will increase American exports by billions of dollars annually.

        (Photo: )

        "This is a major milestone in helping the United States regain sustainable economic strength," said Burns, who in July was appointed by President Obama to the President's Export Council, a public/private sector advisory committee that advises the President on international trade strategies. "This agreement demonstrates the Administration's willingness and commitment to opening new markets for American goods, boosting our exports, and levelling the playing field for American workers."

        Korea is an important market for the silicones and silicon-based materials produced by Dow Corning. The company's products are used extensively in industries such as automotive, electronics, beauty & personal care, construction, healthcare, paper, power & utility, solar, and textiles.

        The Obama Administration has said a free-trade agreement with South Korea would add in excess of $10 billion annually in U.S. exports and create thousands of jobs.

        Published reports say the agreement calls for eliminating many tariffs between the two countries, including South Korean levies of 40 percent or more on agricultural goods.  This will make it easier for U.S. banks, engineering firms, insurance companies and other service firms to do business in South Korea.

        About Dow Corning

        Dow Corning ( provides performance-enhancing solutions to serve the diverse needs of more than 25,000 customers worldwide. A global leader in silicones, silicon-based technology and innovation, Dow Corning offers more than 7,000 products and services via the company's Dow Corning® and XIAMETER® brands. Dow Corning is equally owned by The Dow Chemical Company and Corning, Incorporated. More than half of Dow Corning's annual sales are outside the United States.

        SOURCE Dow Corning

  •  His base WILL vote for him (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    shenderson, FiredUpInCA

    they are the ones giving him 80% approval among Democrats.

    And yet you post an article that says the South Korean trade deal will CREATE jobs and you say "giveaway".  This is NOT a NAFTA.  South Korea has a HIGH WAGE workforce.

    And how was he going to get Republicans to vote on the tax bill when not even all the DEMOCRATS voted for it?  

    And what does the President have to do with Mahmoud Abbas?  

    Do you expect him to have superpowers where he can just dictate to the world and the world will do what he wants?

    "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." --M. L. King "You can't fix stupid" --Ron White

    by zenbassoon on Sat Dec 04, 2010 at 12:51:23 PM PST

  •  How did Eugene McCarthy do? (3+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    raincrow, FiredUpInCA, doroma

    Oh, that's right, he couldn't even get the nomination.

    How did Alan Grayson do in running for reelection?  Oh, that's right, he lost by a frigging landslide in his own district.

    How well would a self-proclaimed socialist do anywhere other than what may be the most liberal state in the country?  Well, we don't know for SURE yet, but I've got whatever you'd like to bet that the answer is that he'd be lucky to carry anyplace other than Vermont and DC.

    This place has gone completely, stark-raving insane.

    Still PROUD to be a Democrat!

    by leevank on Sat Dec 04, 2010 at 01:07:38 PM PST

    •  Eugene McCarthy (0+ / 0-)

      caused LBJ to drop out. If not for Mayor Daley of Chicago, Hubert Horatio Humphrey would have likely won the election, he almost did. Then the world would be a much better place today.

      Practice tolerance, kindness and charity.

      by LWelsch on Sat Dec 04, 2010 at 01:13:50 PM PST

      [ Parent ]


    Substantive diaries only. If you don't have at least three solid, original paragraphs, you should probably post a comment in an Open Thread.

    No repetitive diaries. Take a moment to ensure your topic hasn't been blogged (you can search for Stories and Diaries that already cover this topic), though fresh original analysis is always welcome.

    Use the "Body" textbox if your diary entry is longer than three paragraphs.

    Any images in your posts must be hosted by an approved image hosting service (one of:,,,,,,,,

    Copying and pasting entire copyrighted works is prohibited. If you do quote something, keep it brief, always provide a link to the original source, and use the blockquote tags to clearly identify the quoted material. Violating this rule is grounds for immediate banning.

    Be civil. Do not "call out" other users by name in diary titles. Do not use profanity in diary titles. Don't write diaries whose main purpose is to deliberately inflame.

  •  No difference between bush and Gore either. (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    jj32, FiredUpInCA

    Remember that one?

    "Education is dangerous - Every educated person is a future enemy" Hermann Goering (NRSC?)

    by irate on Sat Dec 04, 2010 at 01:13:43 PM PST

  •  if Obama gets the unemployment benefits (0+ / 0-)

    extension in exchange for the Repubs  2 or 3 year extension on all tax cuts  then it's a win for the unemployed and  about the best that is going to happen, if he does stand firm and veto all of the tax cut bills  and taxes do go up  he will not be re-elected in 2012  regardless of what else happens    the tax cuts are going to be extended  what can he get in exchange for them?

Subscribe or Donate to support Daily Kos.

Click here for the mobile view of the site